Riverhead Forest Trailride this Sunday January 25 2009

[billaroo]

We have got some new stuff for this one.
Dangers bound to be there........

[theblacksmith]

A trail ride that goes through a house!

[D dub]

A trail ride that goes through a house!

Its just a photo sorry, there will be no house to ride through but maybe we can make that a project for the year?

[DELLORTO]

the last river head trail ride i went on it was so muddy/slippery that i did the whole thing riding side ways......not fun

[oldskool]

Its just a photo sorry, there will be no house to ride through but maybe we can make that a project for the year?
That pic reminds me of when I rode through the corridors of LongBay college back in the early 80's on my PE175.:whistle: :woohoo:that was funny.

[SpikedPunch]

You mean you guys don't ride your bikes in the house?:whistle:

[oldskool]

You mean you guys don't ride your bikes in the house?:whistle:

hmmm I'm tempted to reply to that one but then I might get in trouble with my wife!

[barty5]

i use to be able to ride my pw50 up in to the office turn round and go back out. just ask cheese he rode it in while i was talkin to a customer they did see the funny side. Ive got stairs now guess we will have to try going down them next/

[billaroo]

the last river head trail ride i went on it was so muddy/slippery that i did the whole thing riding side ways......not fun

mud won't be an issue this weekend

[Boosted]

hah thats what those black tyre marks are at long bay college hahaha

[Factoryjohn]

the last river head trail ride i went on it was so muddy/slippery that i did the whole thing riding side ways......not fun

Riverhead. Muddy/slippery, surely not.

[krad_nz]

Could be a fun ride.

Does anyone know if its wet out there or not?

[billaroo]

Could be a fun ride.

Does anyone know if its wet out there or not?

dry- hasn't rained for 2 weeks.

[barty5]

dry- hasn't rained for 2 weeks.

you sure pissed down at my place on the weekend im only 15 min away

[billaroo]

you sure pissed down at my place on the weekend im only 15 min away

dry-dry-dry

[oldskool]

Fark I wish I could go to this. But with the XR200 and the DR350 still out of action I don't relish riding through it on my sons XR100. Cheese and MXHeman, you don't know how fortunate you are, you got bikes in working order and you don't ride 'em!!! It's criminal!

[laserracer]

Hey oldfart ...sell them both and buy one that goes..simple
i'll start the bid with... $5 for the XR..... and $7 plus a crunchie bar for the DR..but now if you were to advertise that world famous cat poo brush well that alone must be worth the price of a new 450 its priceless...lol.lol

[oldskool]

Hey oldfart ...sell them both and buy one that goes..simple
i'll start the bid with... $5 for the XR..... and $7 plus a crunchie bar for the DR..but now if you were to advertise that world famous cat poo brush well that alone must be worth the price of a new 450 its priceless...lol.lol
haha very funny lazyracer. Hopefully the XR will be faster, stronger, better than it was before... no wait up thats the bionical man, well anyway back on track by early March. And the DR, well I dunno about that yet. But I don't wanna 450, I'd be happy enough with a little 125 ring dinger to throw around.

[laserracer]

ya just gonna have to go for a ride on the ..ol warthog ..well not so much a ride as a ..HANGON :shit: no that aint a pet name for the miss's...mind you:whistle:;)

[cheese]

My bike isn't going. It needs the wheel sorted yet. Hopefully my sone sleeps tonihgt so I can finish spoking it.

[barty5]

Fark I wish I could go to this. But with the XR200 and the DR350 still out of action I don't relish riding through it on my sons XR100. Cheese and MXHeman, you don't know how fortunate you are, you got bikes in working order and you don't ride 'em!!! It's criminal!

whats up with the dr ??? thought you would have it going by now.

[Taz]

That pics from romaniacs isn't it?

[oldskool]

whats up with the dr ??? thought you would have it going by now.
Between when you picked up that 50 and now I just haven't been able to find the time to sort it. I got a new plug for it and got it started (with a lot of CRC sprayed down the airbox) , it takes a '94 model plug not a '93 which I thought it was. Lots of bangs backfires and hissy fits and it wouldn't rev out, just sorta a rough fast idle. Ran like that for a while, mechanically the motor sounded alright then a bit of a clang and then lots of continuous loud rattles from the head. Don't know whether it's the camchain or a valve making the noise. I figure it needs that looking at and a carby reco before I can ride it. Yeah so that's where that stands at ze moment. I don't have a manual or the know how on this engine to look at it flying solo. Little John said he'd have a look at it after he's fixed me XR lol fngers crossed it isn't too major

[noobi]

dam four strokes
sell it buy a two stroke

[oldskool]

dam four strokes
sell it buy a two stroke
:chase: yep let's all rush out and get an 09 Husky WR300!

[noobi]

:chase: yep let's all rush out and get an 09 Husky WR300!

sounds good, who's shout is it this time?
wr300s all round then
if that fails, I know of a guy whos selling his gasgas, I heard these are good?

anyway, which comes with a higher recommendation
this ride at riverhead?
or spend the same amount and go to kimmys?

[oldskool]

sounds good, who's shout is it this time?
wr300s all round then
if that fails, I know of a guy whos selling his gasgas, I heard these are good?

anyway, which comes with a higher recommendation
this ride at riverhead?
or spend the same amount and go to kimmys?

:2thumbsup I looked at that but theres a bit of mud on the rear tyre, enuff tah take off 5 hundy. Then the chain looks a bit tight on it so all the work that needs to go into loosening that off a bit should take off another 100! Then if theres a slow payment scheme that doesn't dent my weekly booze allowance too much...well... I'd be in!!

[cheese]

Ok my spokes are sorted so I'm in.

[barty5]

Ok my spokes are sorted so I'm in.

what about yah forks??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there like Jack hammers

[cheese]

Ah it will give you an excuse to go round faster than me.

[chop]

at this point in time myself and a couple of likely looking suspects will be in attendance

[noobi]

Is this a good ride?

[cheese]

Riverhead is awesome! I'll be there.

[barty5]

Any who wants to stop in on the shore mairangi bay on the way back and want to crash in the pool at my place is welcome going to do bbq as well byo.

[oldskool]

Any who wants to stop in on the shore mairangi bay on the way back and want to crash in the pool at my place is welcome going to do bbq as well byo.
Will you supply the liquid dynamo?

[cheese]

That certainly would be an interesting way to clean your bike.

[barty5]

Will you supply the liquid dynamo?

got plenty of parking part of large complex but there is a hose next to the pool and i do have dynamo. You have all of monday to clean it anyway. If your real keen you could have a bash on the tenis court (not with bike)

[oldskool]

got plenty of parking part of large complex but there is a hose next to the pool and i do have dynamo. You have all of monday to clean it anyway. If your real keen you could have a bash on the tenis court (not with bike)
motoXtennis! sounds like fun?
hmmm I may have to consider riding my son's XR100 out there just to crash your pool party. geez I must sound desperate to ride!?

[Cr1MiNaL]

Umm... Can a nub come too? suitable for learner dirt rider?

[Azzman]

Umm... Can a nub come too? suitable for learner dirt rider?

You should be fine, Riverhead is a fun ride in the summer, just dont take it on in the winter!
I highly recommend the twilight rides too...a whole forest to yourself (and your mates if you have any :msn-wink:)

[vazza]

Seu thurr!

[noobi]

we are now going, we'll be the lost looking ones with a car trailer and two bikes, red rodeo

[cheese]

I'll be there CR250, and a white Honda Orthia. I'll be parked near Aarons big Orange Holden.

[krad_nz]

Really wanted to check out Riverhead this weekend but alas other plans have prevented me.

Have fun everyone!

[Cr1MiNaL]

wow u dirt bikers arent that friendly are yaz !! :/

A nub wantiing help and noone offers, none what so ever !!

In the road section a nub wud have had 10 offers for help already !

M goin road riding instead...

sort it out guys ;)

[barty5]

wow u dirt bikers arent that friendly are yaz !! :/

A nub wantiing help and noone offers, none what so ever !!

In the road section a nub wud have had 10 offers for help already !

M goin road riding instead...

sort it out guys ;)

hey dont be like that we are a nice bunch river head can be demanding especially when its wet but being dry as a bone youll be right. As for friendly hell ive invited those that want to back for a bbq and crash in the pool after.

[krad_nz]

YamahaR64Life, looks like someone replied to me....



You should be fine, Riverhead is a fun ride in the summer, just dont take it on in the winter!
I highly recommend the twilight rides too...a whole forest to yourself (and your mates if you have any :msn-wink:)

[Hemex]

wow u dirt bikers arent that friendly are yaz !! :/

A nub wantiing help and noone offers, none what so ever !!

In the road section a nub wud have had 10 offers for help already !

M goin road riding instead...

sort it out guys ;)

wooow... you might want to back that up before you put the dirt division down...you got a perfect reply and so i guess no one else needed to say anything...being a newbie myself ive got more help from guys on here than people ive known for years.. so hey, keep the touchy roadrider feelings for the on road section as the answers here come concise with full of information and not with a bunch of flowers .... :done:

[oldskool]

I won't be going to this one, will be going down to Thunder with the family and meeting up with LittleJohn on the way. Will miss the Barty at Party's (someone push Cheese in the pool please!) Have fuuunnnn :banana:

[Cr1MiNaL]

hey dont be like that we are a nice bunch river head can be demanding especially when its wet but being dry as a bone youll be right. As for friendly hell ive invited those that want to back for a bbq and crash in the pool after.


wooow... you might want to back that up before you put the dirt division down...you got a perfect reply and so i guess no one else needed to say anything...being a newbie myself ive got more help from guys on here than people ive known for years.. so hey, keep the touchy roadrider feelings for the on road section as the answers here come concise with full of information and not with a bunch of flowers .... :done:

Oh hey hey ! There are people on here :innocent: something along the lines of oh don't worry were all in a group, if your bike doesnt start or you get bogged down and cant move the damn thing someone will help ya. Its just a bit re assuring at the end of the day when your alone in the unknown. I suppose you all would help if something like that happened.

Love the no flowers bit too ! Very apt. I will have to see you all next time. Im about so suit up. God I love motorbikes. :rockon:

[theblacksmith]

wow u dirt bikers arent that friendly are yaz !! :/

A nub wantiing help and noone offers, none what so ever !!

In the road section a nub wud have had 10 offers for help already !

M goin road riding instead...

sort it out guys ;)

What did you want help with?
-Umm... Can a nub come too? suitable for learner dirt rider? Were you asking for help with that question? Maybe you should PM billaroo - or get in touch with WMCC, cos it looked to me like you were asking permission to attend rather than asking for help. We are obviously friendly here - most of us are running our own business' which depends a lot on being friendly believe me.I hope this doesn't deter you from asking/posting questions on here - most of the members have a wealth of knowledge about riding and repairing/maintainence issues.And we welcome new members - the more of us there are -the more the chance of getting the answer we were looking for.
Best of Luck.

[cheese]

wow u dirt bikers arent that friendly are yaz !! :/

A nub wantiing help and noone offers, none what so ever !!

In the road section a nub wud have had 10 offers for help already !

M goin road riding instead...

sort it out guys ;)

Sorry we neglected you. Riverhead would have not been great for a noob.

[cheese]

I won't be going to this one, will be going down to Thunder with the family and meeting up with LittleJohn on the way. Will miss the Barty at Party's (someone push Cheese in the pool please!) Have fuuunnnn :banana:

Hey enough lip from you. Just go get those bike going huh!

[cheese]

Oh adn the reason I was initially going to post was to say top ride today. Loved it.

[noobi]

Well in all fairness this wasn't a ride for any noob, it was hard
We got half way round on the first loop and then my bike fouled its first ever plug (from following dad) in the farthest possible place form the carpark :blank:
And as an unbiased view, cheese was there, and going on the fact that he told me about the track I can only assume that he was riding too!!
Nice to meet you cheese, no real names ?
Hopefully I can talk dad into going back to riverhead, unlikely
I really liked it tho, really hard and technical, suits my riding
So whens the next possible kb meet?
Feb 1st MR cycles ride?

[tommorth]

YamahaR64Life if you go on pretty much any trail ride if you get in to trouble you will have no shortage of people stoping to help and offer advice or just stoping have a chat if you stop for a rest

[dammad1]

Was a good technical ride, that club certainly likes its over grown single track but it's not really suitable for the masses.

i would recommend that if you haven't ridden out there you go some time soon while its still dry, because once it gets damp it will be a nightmare for most.

[barty5]

Was a good technical ride, that club certainly likes its over grown single track but it's not really suitable for the masses.

i would recommend that if you haven't ridden out there you go some time soon while its still dry, because once it gets damp it will be a nightmare for most.

I thought that was you out there was s good ride and the mud that was there on the long up hill section was lots a fun got bored going round it so straight through the middle last two laps shit every where.

[cheese]

Yeah poor old Rupe was knackered on that last lap.

Noobi - my real name is Stephen.

Yeah Riverhead is no place for beginners. Apparently 150 riders came. After my fisrt lap, I noticed about 1/3 went home.

Did 3 laps in the end. Was keen for more, but spent so much time waiting for Aaron and Rupe........

[xen]

How big was the loop? Twilight ride last friday I went on was pretty short seemed like 10km.

[krad_nz]

Damn, sounded you guys had fun. I ended up at the Meremere drags. I havn't been to the 4 & Rotary nationals for about 8 years now. It appears they've finally sorted out parking and traffic controls and as a result it was pretty sweet.

Sweltering heat though. I wish I had brought some sort of tent with me. Not as much fun as riding though. =)

V monster truck was pretty wicked, as was the Rayglass Supra (?) doing a 6.95sec pass :Police:

[barty5]

Yeah poor old Rupe was knackered on that last lap.

Noobi - my real name is Stephen.

Yeah Riverhead is no place for beginners. Apparently 150 riders came. After my fisrt lap, I noticed about 1/3 went home.

Did 3 laps in the end. Was keen for more, but spent so much time waiting for Aaron and Rupe........


:lol::lol::lol::lol: cant stop laughing

[vazza]

Such a good ride.. So much fun. Would be a great GNCC loop I reckon

[chop]

riverhead rocks any time of the year and yesterday was no exception at all!!!
If you like the trailrides in there why not try the enduro or Riverhead 100????!!!! there was some stuff in there yest i havnt riden in ages!

[noobi]

Noobi - my real name is Stephen.

Did 3 laps in the end. Was keen for more, but spent so much time waiting for Aaron and Rupe........

haha yes I didnt forget stephen, but everytime someone posts a name its like a :girlfight:
anyway
I wouldve done 2 laps probably

I need to give a huge thanks to whoever was riding the new husaberg 450 who stopped and helped when my bike fouled a plug, he was the one who marked out the trail so got dad back to the carpark quickly and got me rescued a big :2thumbsup
also to someone who was riding an older gasgas 250 or 300 who stopped and helped me aswell, and another guy who stopped who rode a kx250
everyone thanks

[krad_nz]

I always carry a couple of spare plugs and the tools required to change a plug just in case this happens.

Havn't fouled a plug for at least 8-10 rides now.

[dammad1]

I always carry a couple of spare plugs and the tools required to change a plug just in case this happens.

Havn't fouled a plug for at least 8-10 rides now.

It was very hot yesterday and some of the track was very tight, so you could easily foul a plug if your jetting was a bit rich in the first place.

[noobi]

I always carry a couple of spare plugs and the tools required to change a plug just in case this happens.

Havn't fouled a plug for at least 8-10 rides now.

since iv owned the bike, bought it in may, i had never fouled a single plug and the one that did foul was the plug that was in it when i got it

but guess what i learnt on sunday :sweatdrop

is it true that plugs only last about 8 rides? one of the guys who stopped to help me said that they only last about that long and that i should get the jetting done

I will probably just run less oil in the mixture, its 2.5% atm, or run a hotter plug, i never have the bike tapped for long, or change the jetting but triple x moto recommend a larger main then whats in it now
fuk i dunno

[krad_nz]

I've fiddled with my jetting. Leaned up the mid range. Its made a world of difference.

Dunno about replacing plugs every 8 rides though. I've never done that, but I'm no racer thats for sure :P

[xxblackbirdxx]

since iv owned the bike, bought it in may, i had never fouled a single plug and the one that did foul was the plug that was in it when i got it

but guess what i learnt on sunday :sweatdrop

is it true that plugs only last about 8 rides? one of the guys who stopped to help me said that they only last about that long and that i should get the jetting done

I will probably just run less oil in the mixture, its 2.5% atm, or run a hotter plug, i never have the bike tapped for long, or change the jetting but triple x moto recommend a larger main then whats in it now
fuk i dunno

I wouldn't reccomend that !!
A new plug every 15 to twenty hours is a good practise, Either get a workshop rejet your bike or if you want to give it a shot drop the needle one slot and that should allow more air in and make the mixture leaner(check your plug after every setting change to ensure you havent gone too lean). Reducing the oil content is not a very good idea nor is running a hotter plug(unless its within the reccomended range).
Crazy dave had the same problem and a simple rejet has made a world of difference. He is probably the one who stopped and gave you a hand(he was on a kx250).
The trails were tight and puttering along on a two stroke will usually cause your plugs to foul. Vazza has similar issues which we are trying to solve as we dont want it happening at the GNCC next month.
Please dont take my word for gospel as tuning carbs is a skill very few of us possess and a lot of it is by trial.
hope this helps!!

[barty5]

I wouldn't reccomend that !!
A new plug every 15 to twenty hours is a good practise, Either get a workshop rejet your bike or if you want to give it a shot drop the needle one slot and that should allow more air in and make the mixture leaner(check your plug after every setting change to ensure you havent gone too lean). Reducing the oil content is not a very good idea nor is running a hotter plug(unless its within the reccomended range).
Crazy dave had the same problem and a simple rejet has made a world of difference. He is probably the one who stopped and gave you a hand(he was on a kx250).
The trails were tight and puttering along on a two stroke will usually cause your plugs to foul. Vazza has similar issues which we are trying to solve as we dont want it happening at the GNCC next month.
Please dont take my word for gospel as tuning carbs is a skill very few of us possess and a lot of it is by trial.
hope this helps!!



no no thats fine let him foul plugs at the gncc less people to pass hehehe.

[cheese]

Crikey I just put a new plug in when I put a new piston in.

[B0000M]

shit you guys seem to go thru a lot of plugs!

ive replaced one plug since ive owned my bike, and that was about 70 hours ago- never fouled one either

[xxblackbirdxx]

no no thats fine let him foul plugs at the gncc less people to pass hehehe.

:Oi::Playnice: on the other hand it sounds like a good idea, he beat me by 45 seconds at the GNCC.

[noobi]

[QUOTE=xxblackbirdxx;1907856]I wouldn't reccomend that !!
A new plug every 15 to twenty hours is a good practise, Either get a workshop rejet your bike or if you want to give it a shot drop the needle one slot and that should allow more air in and make the mixture leaner(check your plug after every setting change to ensure you havent gone too lean). Reducing the oil content is not a very good idea nor is running a hotter plug(unless its within the recommended range).
Crazy dave had the same problem and a simple rejet has made a world of difference. He is probably the one who stopped and gave you a hand(he was on a kx250).
QUOTE]


wouldn't recommend what?
the guy on the kx250 said he got his bike rejetted and it doesn't foul plugs anymore, but the guy who he recommended couldn't be much further away if he tried, kumeu is a long way away from my place

yea the new plug thing i will have a look at, and maybe the jetting thing, my bike has a lot of oily splooge coming out the muffler and I think the 1/2 to full throttle is wrong because it didn't splooge up at the ride at riverhead , cuz it was so tight i couldn't open her up for long, but at thunder it does cuz im really fast around there and on the throttle lots so again I think the jetting is out, but then mr cheese said that thats just two stroke nature to do that when I met him at riverhead

[Rupe]

I will probably just run less oil in the mixture, its 2.5% atm, or run a hotter plug, i never have the bike tapped for long, or change the jetting but triple x moto recommend a larger main then whats in it now
fuk i dunno

Nah leave the oil as it is.

I'd recommend talking to Linton at Dirt Action Services 03 3890080. He sorted a good base to start from, as he knows gassers inside and out, and also the places you would go riding. Not all bikes come jetted well out of the box. Also Linton can supply LTR jtting kits for the bikes for around $50, where as tripplex quoted me over $150.

Also Reckless on here is vey knowledgable and has a lot of experience with experimentation.

[Rupe]

anyone find any keys at this ride?

[barty5]

anyone find any keys at this ride?

still no luck finding them

[telliman]

shit you guys seem to go thru a lot of plugs!

ive replaced one plug since ive owned my bike, and that was about 70 hours ago- never fouled one either

yeah same, iv never fouled a plug on either my kx250 or my four stroke!

[noobi]

Nah leave the oil as it is.

I'd recommend talking to Linton at Dirt Action Services 03 3890080. He sorted a good base to start from, as he knows gassers inside and out, and also the places you would go riding. Not all bikes come jetted well out of the box. Also Linton can supply LTR jtting kits for the bikes for around $50, where as tripplex quoted me over $150.

Also Reckless on here is vey knowledgable and has a lot of experience with experimentation.

I have been searching on the overseas forums, gasgasrider, thumpertalk,etc but have yet to find any info from anyone who has done rejetting for a bike the sam as mine, and I didnt know that LTR made a jetting kit for a 07 ec125
but ill give him a call, he keeps coming up as the gasgas guru of sorts

Can anyone recommend how to remove the needle holding bolt inside the slide, mine is a 6mm bolt, but its stripped, not from me, and I cant get it out to see what the needle and clip settings are :blank:

[Rupe]

I have been searching on the overseas forums, gasgasrider, thumpertalk,etc but have yet to find any info from anyone who has done rejetting for a bike the sam as mine, and I didnt know that LTR made a jetting kit for a 07 ec125
but ill give him a call, he keeps coming up as the gasgas guru of sorts

Can anyone recommend how to remove the needle holding bolt inside the slide, mine is a 6mm bolt, but its stripped, not from me, and I cant get it out to see what the needle and clip settings are :blank:


Yeah give him a call, he keeps all my details on file (jetting, exhuast, gearing etc) So that when I ring for a part he can give me the best for my bike and type of riding. The bonus of this he can lok at other peoples file to see what worked for them. Plus his prices inc frieght are far cheaper than I ever found round here. good luck

[Rupe]

still no luck finding them

nope, can find them anywhere.

[theblacksmith]

Crikey I just put a new plug in when I put a new piston in.

Same - actually, the plug I have in now is on the second piston(which has given me around 120 hrs service).
I mix my oil at 32-1 and never have I had to clean the plug. The plug i have in there is a NGK B9ES and the bike is a kdx250. But on that note I think I will replace it for a new one to be on the safe side lol.

[Reckless]

I've only read the last page or so Noobi but if there's oil and shit dripping out the pipe its too rich somewhere for sure. It probably fouled on the Riverhead ride cause you never had the chance to let it have a blast. This alone doesn't prove its rich in a certain area though ( low or high) as you may have been in the main just long enough to still foul the plug if its rich there?

Plugs:I had my first plug clap out on me over xmas other than that have never had to replace one that often. Easily done over 100 hours on most of them. But with a 2 smoker it never hurts to have one in the pack back spare in case you tip it on its lid and flood it really bad, or one simply gives up on you.

You do need to strip the carb down and see what its settings are now!


Nah leave the oil as it is.
I'd recommend talking to Linton at Dirt Action Services 03 3890080. He sorted a good base to start from, as he knows gassers inside and out, and also the places you would go riding. Not all bikes come jetted well out of the box.

Rupes correct and I'd call linton his local knowledge could save alot of pain, sufferng and testing.


I have been searching on the overseas forums, gasgasrider, thumpertalk,etc but have yet to find any info from anyone who has done rejetting for a bike the sam as mine, and I didnt know that LTR made a jetting kit for a 07 ec125
but ill give him a call, he keeps coming up as the gasgas guru of sorts.

Don't worry about what they may or may not do in the USA mate, different sea level, humidity, atmoshere etc etc doesn't apply here!

Its very hard to tune over the internet but it could be something as simple as a pilot jet change and this is often where the problems are. I dont have a magic answer for your needle holding bolt hopefully its the bolt stripped not the slide. The stripped bolt also indicates someone has had quite a fiddle with it.

So my 2c would be to, see whats in it, give Linton a call see what he recommends, then you have to make a judgement call on what you want to do. Tuning a 125 correctly can make quite a difference. You really need to be able to read a used or new plug to go from there. There is a few threads on here about that, do a search. Just remember generally you can't blow a 2smoker up by going rich but you can by going lean. So if your going to make some guesses go richer first if it doesn't go right then start to lean it with the new settings. Do your research first. It would't hurt to move the c clip up the needle one notch dropping the needle down to lean it a bit but do the research, know what settings it has now, read the plug as in indicator and then decide OK.
Good Luck!

[cheese]

anyone find any keys at this ride?

You have to stop going to those parties where you all put your keys in the bowl...

[barty5]

You have to stop going to those parties where you all put your keys in the bowl...

Why did you find them.