For f#@#k's sake

[pc220]

If a biker wants to ride at breakneck speeds everywhere good on them thats their choice. But the wankers that for whatever reason choose to pass others ,cars and bikes, with less than a foot gap are really starting to fuck me off. This shit is happening even when the other lane is is clear.Can someone tell me what the point is?. Usaully they approach at such a speed from behind that they havent been noticed in the mirrors yet, one small swerve by me within MY riding space and its all over for both of us. The next one to do that shit around me might just find themselves flat on their back when i catch up to them at the next intersection.
When you choose to ride like a cock just remember , every action has a positive and negative reaction.
Rant over

[Tank]

, every action has a positive and negative reaction.
Rant over

Actually its "every action there is always opposed an equal reaction" nothing about it being a positive and negative - that just dosnt make sense.

But then I have a PhD in Physics.

[Kickaha]

But then I have a PhD in Physics.

So you dig ditches for a living then :bleh:

[sunhuntin]

drives me nuts as well.
partner and i had just got into bulls, heading north. we were just before the hill, with traffic on both sides of the road. susan notices a bike in her mirror and tells me look at this wanker. i cant see anything but cars from my side, and asked what she was on about. by the time i got that out, said wanker had passed us and the traffic behind us, basically on the white line. jerk off couldnt wait, what? a k or so? before hitting the open road and a passing lane.

had a goldwing do that a little over a year ago. my bike got blown over and snapped the right mirror off. i was heading north of wellington, and a goldwing, which, of course, i didnt hear coming, passed me well within my lane [which was the left hand one] while the right lane remained empty. got such a fright i damn near fell off the bike. if hed been in the other lane, it wouldnt have given me such a fright. but now i know why they have such loud stereos...

[Tank]

So you dig ditches for a living then :bleh:

no - but then I was lying about the PhD. Although I did see a Doctor once.

[marty]

how about if you're driving a car, don't talk on your phone, or hog the centreline at 95km/h, then you'll 1, have a better chance of having some SA and 2, give other road users some room to pass

[pc220]

how about if you're driving a car, don't talk on your phone, or hog the centreline at 95km/h, then you'll 1, have a better chance of having some SA and 2, give other road users some room to pass

And in the case of the other lane been empty ?.

[pc220]

Actually its "every action there is always opposed an equal reaction" nothing about it being a positive and negative - that just dosnt make sense.

But then I have a PhD in Physics.

Positve = said bike makes his pass and speeds off on his way
Negative = When i catch up to him i knock him off his bike for been riding like a cock around me.
Does that make betterer sense ?

[Monty69]

They probly cant be f@#ked indicating to change lanes and feel its less illegal to speed past if they just stay in the left lane. Ive got nothing against speeding, but theres a time and place eh

[cowpoos]

If a biker wants to ride at breakneck speeds everywhere good on them thats their choice. But the wankers that for whatever reason choose to pass others ,cars and bikes, with less than a foot gap are really starting to fuck me off. This shit is happening even when the other lane is is clear.Can someone tell me what the point is?. Usaully they approach at such a speed from behind that they havent been noticed in the mirrors yet, one small swerve by me within MY riding space and its all over for both of us. The next one to do that shit around me might just find themselves flat on their back when i catch up to them at the next intersection.
When you choose to ride like a cock just remember , every action has a positive and negative reaction.
Rant over
harder for a cop to get a radar or laser fix if your close to other vehicles..
and as for your rant...your make you own bed...that is life!! and from my experience...everyone thats slower than you, you think is a slow bumbling fool...and everyone thats faster is a crazy wanker who's asking to be slapped up the back side of the ear!!

My personal take on this is...I don't care. I can't stop them endangering others...so...I just concentrate on what I'm doing.

[AD345]

and from my experience...everyone thats slower than you, you think is a slow bumbling fool...and everyone thats faster is a crazy wanker who's asking to be slapped up the back side of the ear!!



And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the entire ethos of Kiwi motoring in a nutshell. Perfectly put cowpoos

As a nation we are a collective bunch of tut-tutting old nanas.

Give us an audience or forum in which we can blather on about the motoring habits of our fellow citizens and we will get stuck in with a zeal that would make Genghis Kahn blush.

[Colapop]

I lane split. Not in light traffic that's moving at the posted speed limit - that's unnecessary. If traffic is slow moving i.e. on the motorway - then I split. I am respectful of other road users and try to give as much space as possible. It goes both ways though, there are the riders who are trying to do a 'public good' by blocking the lane by riding as close as they can to the centreline when they could just as well ride wholly within their lane and make it safer to pass.

[Colapop]

...Give us an audience or forum in which we can blather on about the motoring habits of our fellow citizens and we will get stuck in with a zeal that would make Genghis Kahn blush.
Aint that why we all Kiwibikers??? :girlfight:

[pc220]

I really dont care how fast or slow someone is going that is their choice and in theory will know their own limits.But when they start doing stupid shit around other motorists thats when i have a problem.If they want to get themselves fucked up thats fine just DONT drag me down too.

[Katman]

As a nation we are a collective bunch of tut-tutting old nanas.

Give us an audience or forum in which we can blather on about the motoring habits of our fellow citizens and we will get stuck in with a zeal that would make Genghis Kahn blush.

Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

After all, isn't that exactly what all motorcyclists seem to do when it's a car driver that does the same thing?

[Maha]

Usaully they approach at such a speed from behind that they havent been noticed in the mirrors yet, one small swerve by me within MY riding space and its all over for both of us.


Some have paid the ultimate penalty for riding with 'only themselves' in mind.

[Katman]

While, of course, it's essential to be aware of what is happening behind you, it's a fact that by far the greatest risk to motorcyclists (in theory) exists within the 150 degree arc in front of you and that is where the majority of your attention should be focused.

Motorcycles approaching from behind at twice the speed of the vehicle in front can seemingly appear out of nowhere.

If we think that New Zealanders, generally speaking, have a poor attitude towards their driving habits, exactly the same could (and should) be said about the riding habits of New Zealand motorcyclists.

[ManDownUnder]

So you dig ditches for a living then :bleh:

Between jobs as a cabbie...?

[dipshit]

But the wankers that for whatever reason choose to pass others ,cars and bikes, with less than a foot gap are really starting to fuck me off. This shit is happening even when the other lane is is clear. Can someone tell me what the point is?.


I have tried asking the likes of Beyond around here why they overtake like that - yet they don't give any reason why they do.

So fucked if i know.

[Kickaha]

Aint that why we all Kiwibikers??? :girlfight:

Kiwibikerwhinelikeabitch.co.nz would be more appropriate


Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

After all, isn't that exactly what all motorcyclists seem to do when it's a car driver that does the same thing?

Fuck off noddy, all motorcyclists have a god given gift to do as they please regardless of the double standard they present :bleh:

[AD345]

Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

After all, isn't that exactly what all motorcyclists seem to do when it's a car driver that does the same thing?

One day you are going to put forth an argument without recourse to swearing - I doubt I'll live long enough.

Condemnation of other motorists (lets not confine ourselves just to motorcyclists) is far less effective than simply working on improving our own road manners and skills.
Its not a right to condemn BTW - its a right to speak. Those that choose to exercise their right only in the pursuit of condemnation would seem only to increase the likelihood of the onset of ulcers.

I get sprotsbikes whommmmping past me every day - often on one wheel (which just looks childish btw). The biggest lesson I take out of it is to constantly work on improving my situational awareness to 360 degrees. I empathise completely with the OP and if, on one day of karmic restoration, I actually find myself able to come across the riders in question I may be even more unrestrained in my remonstration (you bring out the mulit-syllabic in me Katman).

The intent of my post was to point out the glass walls of these discussions and perhaps get some actual debate going rather than polarised argument.

I realise that may be a novel concept for ya. :calm:

[Katman]

One day you are going to put forth an argument without recourse to swearing - I doubt I'll live long enough.



When I start posting on the Central Crotchet Club's website I'll try to remember your aversion to swearing.

Until then - harden the fuck up.

[AD345]

When I start posting on the Central Crotchet Club's website I'll try to remember your aversion to swearing.

Until then - harden the fuck up.

Pussy - ya wouldn't make a prospects bum at the CCC. Those old birds have been swearing for 90 years


:girlfight:

[Katman]

Pussy - ya wouldn't make a prospects bum at the CCC. Those old birds have been swearing for 90 years




And it still offends you?

[Molly]

And whilst we're ranting, I'm f**ked off with cyclists that try to undertake on twisty downhill roads, totally stealing my line. You can argue that I should be going faster but you can chuck a mountain bike through a tight bend much faster than a 600lb Harley.

Oh, and small dick drivers that accelerate when being overtaken and put two wheels on the centre line just to make it that bit harder. What's to say it wasn't some cock like this that initiated the accident that took three lives near Christchurch before Christmas?

Rant over.

[AD345]

And it still offends you?

I didn't say it offends me - it just does your argument a disservice to start out that way is all.

I realise you probably use it for emphasis but its lazy mate and you've got things that are worth saying without irritating the audience right from the get-go.

For fucks sake

[thepom]

Hey Katman,think you,ve got a hook in your lip.....:Pokey:

[Katman]

Oh, and small dick drivers that accelerate when being overtaken and put two wheels on the centre line just to make it that bit harder. What's to say it wasn't some cock like this that initiated the accident that took three lives near Christchurch before Christmas?



I, and countless other motorcyclists, have encountered car drivers that seem to have an irrepressible hatred for motorcyclists.

As I've asked before - where do you think that hatred has stemmed from?

[AD345]

And whilst we're ranting, I'm f**ked off with cyclists that try to undertake on twisty downhill roads, totally stealing my line. You can argue that I should be going faster but you can chuck a mountain bike through a tight bend much faster than a 600lb Harley.
Rant over.

Jesus Christ

Now I've gotta look out for cyclists as well???

I'm so glad I didnt get the Softail after all


:lol:

(P/T)

[jtzzr]

:jerry::jerry::jerry:

[Katman]

I realise you probably use it for emphasis but its lazy mate and you've got things that are worth saying without irritating the audience right from the get-go.



It's not for any emphasis that I choose the words I do.

I'm a mechanic. We swear because we were taught to. (It's a known fact that tight bolts can be frightened into loosening).

[Maha]

And whilst we're ranting, I'm f**ked off with cyclists that try to undertake on twisty downhill roads, totally stealing my line.

Have had a similar thing happen to me, but by another biker. Three of us riding together, I was in front and overtook 3-4 cars (Ngatea Str8's) the other two came with me, I pull back in and get over to the left of my lane (give the others room if they need it) when on my left, I see one of the bikes undertaking me. I told him at the next stop ''dont ever fucken' do that again''. Dont think I have been riding with him since, eliminate the dickheads.

[AD345]

Have had a similar thing happen to me, but by another biker. Three of us riding together, I was in front and overtook 3-4 cars (Ngatea Str8's) the other two came with me, I pull back in and get over to the left of my lane (give the others room if they need it) when on my left, I see one of the bikes undertaking me. I told at the next stop ''dont ever fucken' do that again''. Don think I have been riding with him since, eliminate the dickheads.

I had the exact same thing happen to me a while back on the road between Kawakawa bay and Kaiaua. I told the guy in question to either lead from the start or wait 'til I wave him through 'cos he scared the crap outta me and I nearly took the both of us out.

He didn't like hearing it but, to his credit, he took it on board and our whole group has noticed that he's riding more politely in the pack.

It was a real win, we still ride together and have the odd beer together and maybe we're all just a little bit safer.

[Big Dave]

>>For f#@#k's sake<<

That's what they called the TV show 'That's Incredible!' in Australia.

[RDJ]

Why the fuck shouldn't we have the right to condemn other motorcyclists who impose themselves upon our safety zone?

We've got the 'right' to do quite a lot of things but every now and then it would be better for all concerned not to be quite so vehement about exercising all our rights. Makes for getting on with each other better.

(I do appreciate that is stating the obvious...)

[Maha]

I had the exact same thing happen to me a while back on the road between Kawakawa bay and Kaiaua. I told the guy in question to either lead from the start or wait 'til I wave him through 'cos he scared the crap outta me and I nearly took the both of us out.

He didn't like hearing it but, to his credit, he took it on board and our whole group has noticed that he's riding more politely in the pack.

It was a real win, we still ride together and have the odd beer together and maybe we're all just a little bit safer.

If wrongs can be righted (is that a word?) then all good.
I have been on several rides with this particular chap, and theres always something that he does, where I think mmmmmmmmm. He did apologise the last time but, I would rather not have guys like him in my zone.

But good on ya for sorting your differences out.

[The Stranger]

When I start posting on the Central Crotchet Club's website I'll try to remember your aversion to swearing.

Until then - harden the fuck up.

Somone once said.

"Until such times as we can talk to people that make the decisions that affect our lifestyle in a manner that is respectful and mature we'll continue to be seen as unworthy of serious consideration"

I wonder who that was?

[Katman]

Somone once said.

"Until such times as we can talk to people that make the decisions that affect our lifestyle in a manner that is respectful and mature we'll continue to be seen as unworthy of serious consideration"

I wonder who that was?

I knew someone clever would come out with that. :clap:

But, it's not exactly the same scenario, is it?

[RDJ]

I, and countless other motorcyclists, have encountered car drivers that seem to have an irrepressible hatred for motorcyclists.

As I've asked before - where do you think that hatred has stemmed from?

Envy possibly?

[twotyred]

how about if you're driving a car, don't talk on your phone, or hog the centreline at 95km/h, then you'll 1, have a better chance of having some SA and 2, give other road users some room to pass

Thankfully the company I work for recently forbid using the cell whilst driving even though they provide one to every employee... suits me,any excuse to ignore the bloody thing...:woohoo:

[Katman]

Envy possibly?

I doubt it.

[sinfull]

I had this one cunt pass me within inches on sunday ! Bastard do you think i could catch him after that ! But i spose 4th aint bad for a first timer !

[twotyred]

Envy possibly?

I think not,it stems from the misguided propaganda that portrays motorcyles as just "toys",not vehicles, and motorcyclists as hoons

[AD345]

I knew someone clever would come out with that. :clap:

But, it's not exactly the same scenario, is it?


Practice makes perfect :innocent:

[Katman]

Practice makes perfect :innocent:

I'm trying.

:msn-wink:

[pc220]

Still nobody has explained why the need to pass sooo closely. Are you afraid others will then know you have a small pecker..........

[Maha]

Still nobody has explained why the need to pass sooo closely. Are you afraid others will then know you have a small pecker..........

Possibly the reason is....they beleive they are in controll.

[pc220]

Possibly the reason is....they beleive they are in controll.

Yeah true.... thing is how do they know im in control? , Im not even sure sometimes.

[Renegade]

harder for a cop to get a radar or laser fix if your close to other vehicles..
and as for your rant...your make you own bed...that is life!! and from my experience...everyone thats slower than you, you think is a slow bumbling fool...and everyone thats faster is a crazy wanker who's asking to be slapped up the back side of the ear!!

My personal take on this is...I don't care. I can't stop them endangering others...so...I just concentrate on what I'm doing.

now thats an accurate statement.

[Blatman]

Funny I was just thinking this the other day. I get a lot of other bikes always trying to drag race me cause I'm on a V-Max, even if I'm just going to the dairy to get some bread. Sometimes I'm in the mood but often not, must be those teenage hormones but the cunning of age beats youthful inexperience anyday ;-)