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Voltaire
28th January 2009, 08:02
I know us old bike owners are spread all over the country but I was wondering if any of the Auckland members might like to drag out their old ones and meet up somewhere for a coffee/beer and swap stories?
Maybe something like the Karaka side of the Papakura off ramp....nice ride down the backroads thru Puke and an ice cream/beer/coffee at Pokeno?
Open to suggestions....
( I have a recovery vehicle available:eek:)

Max Headroom
28th January 2009, 09:34
Yeah, I''ll be in. Just need to pick a date that doesn't confilict with anything else.....

Ixion
28th January 2009, 12:33
I'm a starter , subject to dates.

The Pastor
28th January 2009, 14:06
dose a '92 count as classic?

Motu
28th January 2009, 17:38
Of course everyone is going to the Classic meeting?????

Tell me where you will all park - and I will park somewhere else.

Ixion
28th January 2009, 21:45
Sh. They don't want anyone to know it's on.

Motu
28th January 2009, 22:23
I always got a poster to hang up in my shop....and free tickets.I am going to have to pay to get in this year.I have to go...it's one of the few times in the year that certain people I know will all be in one place.

rudolph
28th January 2009, 22:37
Ha, thats a bit far for a classic ride for me, my spine can't take the beeting my plunger BSA will give it

Voltaire
29th January 2009, 07:17
Of course everyone is going to the Classic meeting?????

Tell me where you will all park - and I will park somewhere else.

...Oh 'that' classic meeting...I'm of riding that weekend so you can park anywhere and not have to worry.

Taz
29th January 2009, 07:59
What year is the cut off for your classic get together?.....

Max Headroom
29th January 2009, 08:52
What year is the cut off for your classic get together?.....

Any cutoff would by quite fuzzy, and not strictly enforced anyway....mid-late '80s would be a very rough guide, but anyone with a later bike who has an interest in classics would be made welcome (after we tease you about your "modern"!).

Your Guzzi looks very nice BTW...

Ixion
29th January 2009, 10:45
I saw a good solution to the 'cutoff' issue once.

Any bike welcome, but anyone on a newer than 19xx model had to buy a beer/coffee for any rider on a older than 19xx model who arrived at the destination after he did. So, newish bikes welcome, but they need either to have deep pockets or make sure they stay behind the scrap iron.

koba
29th January 2009, 17:44
I saw a good solution to the 'cutoff' issue once.

Any bike welcome, but anyone on a newer than 19xx model had to buy a beer/coffee for any rider on a older than 19xx model who arrived at the destination after he did. So, newish bikes welcome, but they need either to have deep pockets or make sure they stay behind the scrap iron.

That would be me fucked if the A was dragged out!!

Ixion
30th January 2009, 15:07
So - when and where. This weekend ? may be too soon for some.

Next weekend is the classic races, that's out we all need to go to Puke, track down Mr Motu and point at him.

Weekend after that ?

Voltaire
30th January 2009, 15:16
So - when and where. This weekend ? may be too soon for some.

Next weekend is the classic races, that's out we all need to go to Puke, track down Mr Motu and point at him.

Weekend after that ?

The Sunday of the weekend after Motu pointing...?

Ixion
30th January 2009, 15:24
Sounds like a pran

twotyred
30th January 2009, 15:31
dose a '92 count as classic?

in 2012 it will...:soon:

The Pastor
30th January 2009, 15:37
in 2012 it will...:soon:
hey, thats not too far away :)

Ixion
30th January 2009, 15:53
But we're all going to die in 2012 !

Taz
30th January 2009, 17:37
I'm already dead.....

Dodgyiti
30th January 2009, 18:14
Open to suggestions....
( I have a recovery vehicle available:eek:)


:shutup:



I will be going to the classics by hook or by crook, it's a tradition and the final Puke one.

Motu: on the grass under the trees by the dug out seating if I am forced to take the Val, or showing up Max-PotentialGuzziOwner-Headroom by parking next to him in the bike parking area.:wari:

Unfortunatly at the moment the only thing I can sustain twisting the thottle on is my G/F's 200cc Chinese Scorpio lookalike, please give me 'the bash' if I show up on that.

Max Headroom
30th January 2009, 20:30
.....showing up Max-PotentialGuzziOwner-Headroom by parking next to him in the bike parking area.:wari:

Mate, that's just not an option. After all, what would I do with my lederhosen and beer stein collection?

Voltaire
30th January 2009, 20:55
Mate, that's just not an option. After all, what would I do with my lederhosen and beer stein collection?

Cool, I'll set up my portable espresso machine and bring some Leaning Tower pizzas....

...of course this all hinges on whether the WOF man is in a good mood tomorrow.

Dodgyiti
1st February 2009, 14:19
Mate, that's just not an option. After all, what would I do with my lederhosen and beer stein collection?

Kinky bastard.:buggerd:

I can ride! A real-ish bike! Been out on the Convert all weekend. Throttle cables cleaned and teflon sprayed.
Sweet, so see you lot at the Classics, have my Motu pointing finger fully rested and ready.;)

I could also go on the ride the weekend after that, at the back of the pack as my 'ole Convert has the acceleration of a Westie solo mum on her way to the money machine on DPB day.

Ixion
1st February 2009, 14:26
So, returning to the original proposal, and side lining all this stuff about dubious old scrap iron from forn parts that no proper Briddish rider would look at, on account of they lost the War n'all), is it the Sunday after Motu-pointing?

Shall we go from somewhere to somewhere else. At some time or other?

Would a calendar thingy be an idea?

Ixion
1st February 2009, 14:36
I created a calendar entry. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1884&day=2009-2-15&c=1)

I put it down for the 15th Feb, but as it's actually the first Sunday after Motu-pointing, it's a moveable feast.

Voltaire
1st February 2009, 16:07
I created a calendar entry. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1884&day=2009-2-15&c=1)

I put it down for the 15th Feb, but as it's actually the first Sunday after Motu-pointing, it's a moveable feast.

I propose to make the route simple so as there are no need for 'pointing' or maps and the like.
Arrive 10:00...depart 10:30
How about meet at the Mackers/BP at the top of Bombay Hills, Ararimu, Hunua, Clevedon, Orere, Kaiaua for lunch at the chip shop/pub, Miranda, SH2 and finishing at Pokeno for an ice cream.
We all know the route and Dodgyiti can put a trailer on the convert to pick up 'loose bits' and carry oil and spares.

Do we need rules?
How about a HP cap....65 jumps to mind.:scooter:
thats my tup'ence worth :blink:

Ixion
1st February 2009, 16:38
65 HP :eek: What is this , the TT ? I reckon 40 is more than sufficient for anyone. And a maximum of two cylinders.

And do you really think anyone old enough to be interested will remember that complicated a route?

Richard Mc F
1st February 2009, 16:39
I classify any thing I ride as a classic, so this fat old bastard may bring his new fat old boik..............I mean an FJ1200 is a classic init?

Ixion
1st February 2009, 16:54
If its got only two cylinders (exceptions made for Benelli V8s). Someone bring a petrol powered cut off saw thing for shortening too-long engines.


(Anyone welcome.:sunny: )

Katman
1st February 2009, 16:56
65 HP :eek: What is this , the TT ? I reckon 40 is more than sufficient for anyone.

Mine supposedly put out 120 in it's day.

These days it should just about fit within a 65 cutoff.

Ixion
1st February 2009, 16:58
I think we need a rule that everyone has to run on 65 octane fuel. Works for me.

Dodgyiti
1st February 2009, 17:35
65 HP :eek: What is this , the TT ? I reckon 40 is more than sufficient for anyone. And a maximum of two cylinders.

And do you really think anyone old enough to be interested will remember that complicated a route?

Blimey!
Now where is that NOS bottle?I need a boost
A simple root, if only there was such a thing, they always get complicated somewhere along the way... kids..herpes... erm... what were we talking about?

Voltaire
1st February 2009, 18:01
give me strength....too complicated a route.....:argh:

Tell ya what....I'll take the Puch Maxi and wear a visi vest and you can all follow me......I'll pull over from time to time.:scooter:

First one to Kaiaua gets the chips in...

If the R50/5 gets a WOF I can lower the HP benchmark to 32 HP if that helps:girlfight:

Motu
1st February 2009, 18:19
We need to fit in a gravel road too - that will sort out unsuitable bikes,and young pups who never learned on real roads.Mangatangi Dam is on the Kaiaua road and there is no one to pose to.....I hope there will be no posers along (no question mark,that was a statement)

Voltaire
1st February 2009, 18:35
We need to fit in a gravel road too - that will sort out unsuitable bikes,and young pups who never learned on real roads.Mangatangi is on the Kaiaua road and there is no one to pose to.....I hope there will be no posers along (no question mark,that was a statement)

You German bike owners and your practicality.... can you get a latte on this unsealed road you speak of...and perhaps carrot cake?

Ixion
1st February 2009, 19:56
I don't mind gravel, but I ain't risking my chrome at speed on gravel.

Ixion
1st February 2009, 19:57
give me strength....too complicated a route.....:argh:

Tell ya what....I'll take the Puch Maxi and wear a visi vest and you can all follow me......I'll pull over from time to time.:scooter:

First one to Kaiaua gets the chips in...

If the R50/5 gets a WOF I can lower the HP benchmark to 32 HP if that helps:girlfight:

It still seems a little excessive. All right for you chaps with modern bikes.

Motu
1st February 2009, 20:02
Chrome?? I'll wash the bike next week and see if I can find some....but I don't think I have any.

Ixion
1st February 2009, 20:03
Germans couldn't afford any after the War. I got chrome.

Voltaire
1st February 2009, 20:09
It still seems a little excessive. All right for you chaps with modern bikes.

Your 1907 Frogmorevitesse single speeder should be up to that.....
on the hilly bits you can always piss on the belt for additional traction.
Unless you have a drizylindesreibenfumpzig handy.

Ixion
1st February 2009, 20:45
give me strength....too complicated a route.....:argh:



What's wrong with the old route? Over the razorback, left turn, wriggle a bit, turn right just before St John's church (the one where all the women get pregnant), past the school, down the long long hill, left turn at the road that goes somewhere else, along those really long straights, wriggle a bit and onto the Hunua Rd, then take the back road into SH2 past the other school, and dive down into Kaiaua

Simple, and you never see a cop on those roads.

But I'm easy myself as to route. Just saying, that everybody here is at least half way to senility, so if y' make the route too complicated people will forget it, or follow some road that hasn't existed for 50 years.

My one is at least simple, y' can't go wrong.

Voltaire
2nd February 2009, 21:12
What's wrong with the old route? Over the razorback, left turn, wriggle a bit, turn right just before St John's church (the one where all the women get pregnant), past the school, down the long long hill, left turn at the road that goes somewhere else, along those really long straights, wriggle a bit and onto the Hunua Rd, then take the back road into SH2 past the other school, and dive down into Kaiaua

Simple, and you never see a cop on those roads.

But I'm easy myself as to route. Just saying, that everybody here is at least half way to senility, so if y' make the route too complicated people will forget it, or follow some road that hasn't existed for 50 years.

My one is at least simple, y' can't go wrong.

Well I've stuck me name down...someone has to follow Dodgee.
How does the song go.....Where are we going, I ain't certain...all I know that we are on our wayyyyyyyyy".
go on do one of those fancy mappy things with a highlighted root ( westy spelling).
This is definately a job for R50/5....Deutchland Urber Alles!!!!!
:chase: :chase::chase::chase::chase::chase::chase::chase:

Ixion
2nd February 2009, 21:42
Fancy mappy things! What century do you think I come from. We didn't create the Empire upon which the sun never sets (or win the War. Twice. Unlike all those Krauts and Eyties) by using fancy mappy things.

I got a compass. A chrome one. What more do we need? It's a small island, how lost can you get? And given that most of the participants will by half way have forgotten where they were going, and where they set out from , and routre's as good as another.

Dodgyiti
3rd February 2009, 18:55
Whaddaya mean some one has to follow me? Am I the test dummy for scouting ahead for maritime disasters or summit?
Nice, a promotion:laugh:

Gravel is fine if I don't sell the Convert at Puke, it handle's it well, the remaining 'runner' in the shed is a bit twitchy 'cause I lightened the crap out of it so I will have to eat your dust.<_< mumble grumble bloody Germans mutter mutter dont mention the grumble mutter

My 'do everything' classic is not very mobile still:rolleyes:

Voltaire
3rd February 2009, 19:33
Whaddaya mean some one has to follow me? Am I the test dummy for scouting ahead for maritime disasters or summit?:

Yeah....lloyds had to ring the Lutine bell on yer last outing.:Police::doctor:
I water blasted the Duke today in prep for Pukekohe and .....gasp it still started after having water near it:thud:
Looking forward to seeing Max in full Barvarian attire....mit steins.:drinknsin:drinknsin:drinknsin:drinknsin:dr inknsin:

Whats happin'n with the 'classic gathering" are we following Ixion with a compass into the wilderness of Hunua..... :buggerd: ning a ning ning ning....

Voltaire
5th February 2009, 07:08
[QUOTE=Voltaire;1915618]I propose to make the route simple so as there are no need for 'pointing' or maps and the like.
Arrive 10:00...depart 10:30
How about meet at the Mackers/BP at the top of Bombay Hills, Ararimu, Hunua, Clevedon, Orere, Kaiaua for lunch at the chip shop/pub, Miranda, SH2 and finishing at Pokeno for an ice cream.

Ixion could you update your calendar entry to reflect the above route and time.
The bike age cutoff for this event is 1980.

Richard Mc F
5th February 2009, 14:05
The bike age cutoff for this event is 1980.

NICe eVen my BE Evil is too modern, huarrumph might jusT sTalk you guys and flaTTen any stagglers with the my YaMabuldozer ( FJ1200 ):girlfight:

Voltaire
5th February 2009, 17:07
[QUOTEThe bike age cutoff for this event is 1980.

NICe eVen my BE Evil is too modern, huarrumph might jusT sTalk you guys and flaTTen any stagglers with the my YaMabuldozer ( FJ1200 ):girlfight:[/QUOTE]

***** Pre 1976 classic racing says summit like.....the bike must have been in production prior to 1976.....so thats why you see 78 Guzzis and Nortons in the pre 76 class......so under this * your bevel qualifies....up to the 86 model.
As for the Yamaha ...might have to do a combined rider/bike.:hug:

eg: me and Duke = 78 yrs:yawn:

Ixion
5th February 2009, 17:18
Ah well, the first Yamaha four cylinder shaft drive was 1978. All the rest is just bigger holes and more plastic. So the FJ qualifies I reckon. Providing at least two of that ridiculous number of cylinders are disabled

MotoKuzzi
5th February 2009, 19:21
Hey, does once having owned a '67 Triumph Trophy help get place in the line. I'm happy to stay at the back and would be riding the Guzzi. I'm keen to get involved with something like that again when the bank balance permits.

Max Headroom
5th February 2009, 19:58
Hey, does once having owned a '67 Triumph Trophy help get place in the line. I'm happy to stay at the back and would be riding the Guzzi. I'm keen to get involved with something like that again when the bank balance permits.

Well done sir.

Gents, it appears we have a volunteer willing to shout the ice creams....<_<

Ixion
5th February 2009, 20:02
Bugger. Another ruddy recruit to the Axis forces. I'm going to be seriously outnumbered, aren't I. Never mind, muddling through, losing every battle but the last, Mr Brown goes off to town and all that. Thin red line, stiff upper lip, and send the damnable Boche and their spagetti eating allies back across the Siegfried line, eh.

Voltaire
5th February 2009, 20:56
Bugger. Another ruddy recruit to the Axis forces. I'm going to be seriously outnumbered, aren't I. Never mind, muddling through, losing every battle but the last, Mr Brown goes off to town and all that. Thin red line, stiff upper lip, and send the damnable Boche and their spagetti eating allies back across the Siegfried line, eh.

Just get the Yanks and the Russians to bail you out again.
Some pre Evo Harleys and some Cossacks....
Mr Brown caught the 8:51...

Dodgyiti
6th February 2009, 10:55
Bugger. Another ruddy recruit to the Axis forces. I'm going to be seriously outnumbered, aren't I. Never mind, muddling through, losing every battle but the last, Mr Brown goes off to town and all that. Thin red line, stiff upper lip, and send the damnable Boche and their spagetti eating allies back across the Siegfried line, eh.

The Italians only joined up with ze Germans because they thought the uniform looked more snazzy (if not a little kinky) than the itchy kaki drab worn by le Britishers.
I mean, come on, a tank with more reverse gears than forward???
Huge sniper magnet feathers in high ranking officers hats???
Wine with breakfast??
Cease fires during the afternoons so they could take a nap??

The Italian men supported the war effort because they thought they could impregnate more women if they were in a smart uniform. Which actually worked, Italy had a lot of war babies.:2thumbsup

Max Headroom
6th February 2009, 14:18
Cease fires during the afternoons so they could take a nap??



So THAT'S why Italian bikes often stop running after a lunch break......

MotoKuzzi
7th February 2009, 18:56
Well done sir.

Gents, it appears we have a volunteer willing to shout the ice creams....<_<

Raspberry thick shakes at Pokeno, 6 scoops of ice cream beaten to a pulp and no milk added. It's bloody good for the waistline too. :eek5: Gonna need more than 30hp to haul that fat ass around.

ntst8
12th February 2009, 19:45
Sounds like a good ride, pity that for me and the qualifying steed this weekend is a putting the bits back together hopefully in the right order weekend.

Paul in NZ
12th February 2009, 20:51
When is this again?

Ixion
12th February 2009, 20:54
This Sunday. 15th. If any of us remember.

I think we should prohibit electric starters. Kick start only. Or push. That will keep the modern rabble away.

Taz
12th February 2009, 21:01
No electric start?? So I cant come on the Guzzi then?? 1979 aint quite classic enough?? Will take ducati north then I think....

Ixion
12th February 2009, 21:07
What ! :eek: Not MORE Axis reinforcements.


Bloody Hell, are there no Urals out there, at least they were on our side.

Paul in NZ
12th February 2009, 21:12
This Sunday. 15th. If any of us remember.

I think we should prohibit electric starters. Kick start only. Or push. That will keep the modern rabble away.


Drat - TOMCC rally this weekend and sunday fly off to visit the grandbabies..

Ixion
12th February 2009, 21:15
I'm sure there will be a replay. Once the necessary time to repair and rebuild has elapsed. I usually reckon two hours in the workshop for each hour on the road (excluding time spent pushing , or roadside repair time) . Assuming any of us remember of course.

Voltaire
12th February 2009, 21:36
This Sunday. 15th. If any of us remember.

I think we should prohibit electric starters. Kick start only. Or push. That will keep the modern rabble away.

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
I'z got both!!!!!!!!

Ixion
12th February 2009, 21:44
Of course. Eytalian electrics. Ornamental only.

Motu
12th February 2009, 22:36
I'll bring a kickstarter.We will have a quiz as to what it's off....then I'll be able to label it and put it away again.

Ixion
12th February 2009, 22:54
Do you mean that you will bring a lump of bent iron? Or that you will bring an athletic young man who can provide starting services for the arthric ones?

Voltaire
13th February 2009, 06:13
Of course. Eytalian electrics. Ornamental only.

Ducati: press the stater button and the engine starts.

Norton: press the 'electric assist' button prior to kicking for hours.....carefull not to slip on the oil slick ....:girlfight:

Richard Mc F
13th February 2009, 09:40
Of course. Eytalian electrics. Ornamental only.

Good for hiding the german and japanese components and some uniqe kiwi errr ummm improvements

Having said, my still to repaired S2 has Nippon denso instruments and suzuki based swtich gear, and Bosch ignition standard, :banana::2thumbsup they the then scare us all silly with the use of lucas starter solenoid ( looks like it was flogged from a MK1 Cortina) and flasher unit...........wire is still eytie I think:beer:

SpankMe
13th February 2009, 21:19
The bike age cutoff for this event is 1980.

So I can't bring my GB500 :(


I think we should prohibit electric starters. Kick start only. Or push. That will keep the modern rabble away.

The electric starter is buggered so I have to kick start it. Does that qualify?

Ixion
13th February 2009, 21:28
ducati: Press the stater button and the engine starts.


except , of course, for the times when you push teh starter button and both rear indicators start flashing. And can only be stopped by disconnected the speedometer illumination bulb

norton: Press the 'electric assist' button prior to kicking for hours.....carefull not to slip on the oil slick ....:girlfight:

well, nobody ever pretended that norton starter motors did anything useful. and turn down the supply to the auxiliary boot oiler.
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Max Headroom
13th February 2009, 21:29
So I can't bring my GB500 :(

The electric starter is buggered so I have to kick start it. Does that qualify?


Lose the Honda badges, and half the punters will spend the day arguing about which model BSA it is and why it's not leaking oil like it should :argue:......shame about the non-working kickstart though.

Voltaire, waddya reckon? Can the man get an exemption for the day? :msn-wink:

Ixion
13th February 2009, 21:32
So I can't bring my GB500 :(



.

Well, it is in the spirit of the big singles of yesterday. So, I would say that , given a few adjustments (add some oil leaks: loosen the engine bolts so it vibrates properly: and saw half way through a few vital components, to ensure the proper ratio of break downs) it should be good to go. It's clearly already half way there, electric start doesn't work

Seriously, I don't think anyone should be excluded. It's the spirit of the thing that matters.

Voltaire
14th February 2009, 06:15
Lose the Honda badges, and half the punters will spend the day arguing about which model BSA it is and why it's not leaking oil like it should :argue:......shame about the non-working kickstart though.

Voltaire, waddya reckon? Can the man get an exemption for the day? :msn-wink:

OK...you bring the tape for the badges and I'll bring some oil for under it.

Dodgyiti
14th February 2009, 06:41
Will the weather be ok for Sunday?

Voltaire
14th February 2009, 06:58
Will the weather be ok for Sunday?

its not looking too good, maybe Mrs Ixion can do cream teas and scones and we can poke around the shed.:chase::chase::chase::chase::chase::chase:

Max Headroom
14th February 2009, 07:26
I've just checked both the metservice website and another weather website that shows satellite images. They both suggest that tomorrow will probably be cloudy but dry for us. Should be ideal.

Voltaire
14th February 2009, 08:11
I've just checked both the metservice website and another weather website that shows satellite images. They both suggest that tomorrow will probably be cloudy but dry for us. Should be ideal.


geeeeez...BMW owners and their attention to detail......I was gonna look out the window.:girlfight:

Max Headroom
14th February 2009, 09:22
:2guns:
geeeeez...BMW owners and their attention to detail......I was gonna look out the window.:girlfight:


I'd have thought you'd have a greater concern introducing italian 'lectrics to the elements than a rider of fine german engineering....:whistle:

Voltaire
14th February 2009, 13:13
:2guns:


I'd have thought you'd have a greater concern introducing italian 'lectrics to the elements than a rider of fine german engineering....:whistle:

No Dramah....I got one of those fancy auxillary BMW plugs for my 12 volt hair drier.:Pokey:

Dodgyiti
14th February 2009, 14:16
geeeeez...BMW owners and their attention to detail......I was gonna look out the window.:girlfight:

Why risk cricking your neck when the organised people have it going on?

I sold my Convert last night and tested out my Mk2 today (after realising the WOF had expired and got a new one) on a decent ride, ran out of strength to squeeze the brake lever after an hour, so you guys have a good one and I will be up for it in a few weeks more I guess.
More physio required. Shows what a difference there is in the two bikes. I rode the Convert to Puke and back sweetly and to work all week, the main difference is I de-linked the Mk2 brakes after putting 4 pot calipers on the front of it that stuffed up the splitter ratio. The Convert had such a grunty foot pedal I never used the front lever.

tribsanor
14th February 2009, 15:33
Ducati: press the stater button and the engine starts.

Norton: press the 'electric assist' button prior to kicking for hours.....carefull not to slip on the oil slick ....:girlfight:

buggeroff ! mine starts 1st kick ,it don't need a wanker button!

Voltaire
14th February 2009, 15:35
Why risk cricking your neck when the organised people have it going on?

I sold my Convert last night and tested out my Mk2 today (after realising the WOF had expired and got a new one) on a decent ride, ran out of strength to squeeze the brake lever after an hour, so you guys have a good one and I will be up for it in a few weeks more I guess.
More physio required. Shows what a difference there is in the two bikes. I rode the Convert to Puke and back sweetly and to work all week, the main difference is I de-linked the Mk2 brakes after putting 4 pot calipers on the front of it that stuffed up the splitter ratio. The Convert had such a grunty foot pedal I never used the front lever.

Translation: a gust of damp air entered the entire electical system :buggerd:


More physio required......:apint: or :tugger:

Dodgyiti
15th February 2009, 06:21
More physio required......:apint: or :tugger:

The second one, good grip but lacking in the squeezing :laugh:

Weather looks good, enjoy yerselves. I will be grovelling under the Val all morning.<_<

Taz
15th February 2009, 06:58
I will be grovelling under the Val all morning.<_<

I hope Val is some nubile pretty young chic and not that kermit car of yours mate?

Voltaire
15th February 2009, 07:37
weather looks good....now wheres the jumper leads and 'Start Ya Bastard"..........

good luck with the Valiant.....primer grey yet?????:banana:

Ixion
15th February 2009, 07:57
OK. I'm on my way. Hour and a half to get 20 km. Should do it with luck. Not sure where we are meeting but I'll bumble around till I find someone. Look out for a pile of chrome plated scrap iron.

caseye
15th February 2009, 13:20
Hey the Classic bike riders, cheers for a great days riding, enjoyed the company and meeting all the other KB'ers out there.
Had to branch off to get home for an important engagement with one of my girls.Great day.

MotoKuzzi
15th February 2009, 14:48
Cheers to everyone for a great day. look forward to another one and hopefully the eftpos is working in Kaiaua next time. Was forced to deviate to Macca's at mercer on the way home.

Taz
15th February 2009, 19:26
Was an excellent ride. Shame I had to leave you all at Kaiaua but had a good fang thru mangatangi and Mangatawhiri and then into the van to deliver my niece back to Manukau. The guzi ran sweet apart from not wanting to turn over at TDC when staring. Seems the starter sometimes needs a run up :)
Andy.

Ixion
15th February 2009, 20:08
Well the thin red line was very stretched indeed. Bosche and Eyties everywhere. Even called in contingents from their Nipponese allies. All pitted againt a lonely little pile of scrap iron.

But, y' can't beat the old Agincourt spirit. Once more into the breach and all that. And the forces of righteousness and honey still for tea survived to fight another day. Best Brummagen scrap iron. Can't beat it. Nothing broke, nothing fell off. God save the King.

Good to meet various souls, much nicer than their delinquent taste in machinery would indicate.

Motu
15th February 2009, 22:48
As the lone Brit,the Thunderbolt won it's class.It was beautiful,and seemed to be running well,and keeping up a good pace....although I don't know if you were working your butt off while the rest of us were having a lazy old day.I certainly felt no need to cut you up with a daring move to get past a slow moving old clunker.(We will ignore the daring move where I cut you up to get past as you were going too slow).

We had a good turnout,and a good selection of so called Classic's - I thought it a good representation of what's on the road and in peoples sheds.I got to ride in a group....and got to run away and hide for a while too.Went and saw my mate down the road after,so that was a good part of the day too.

Max Headroom
16th February 2009, 08:52
We had a good turnout,and a good selection of so called Classic's - I thought it a good representation of what's on the road and in peoples sheds.


Motu, I think that what we're seeing is more guys participating with "young" classics. By that, I'm referring to the bikes that are considered old by current standards, yet rejected by the likes of the vintage clubs for being too modern. These "young" classics still offer a satisfying riding experience performance-wise and have adequate suspension and brakes, yet aren't in the same league as a modern bike.

The '70s and '80s bikes currently sit in no-mans-land, being of an age that makes them cheap but of increasingly questionable reliability for daily transport needs. They're not rare yet, collectible enough, or financially viable to restore. This is a generalisation, and I know that some would still use their older bikes for commuting, but those folk are a shrinking minority.

I'm just happy to see these bikes getting used, maintained and enjoyed.....

HenryDorsetCase
16th February 2009, 09:08
A lot of us in our 40's now want and can afford the stuff they wrecked raced rallied rolled and generally grew up riding. So a "classic" bike to me is, like Max says, from the 70's and 80's: In no particular order, your Z1's and Z900's, your SOHC Hondas, your RD (and RZ) Yamahas, GS and GSX Suzukis (And GT and RE), your H1 Kwaka etc etc.

I still remember seeing my first wire wheel GSX1100.

Stuff before that (Brit bikes) we all thought were slow, leaky, and unreliable.

I now appreciate that stuff, and there is a place for it in my fantasy garage (with the Vincent, the TR6C, the MAnx Norton, the BSA gold star the Norton Commando etc) but my next old bike (I am currently "resting" from old Jappas) will be something like a CB175 or CL or CB450 ...

PeteJ
16th February 2009, 09:19
Folks, please don't confuse the Classic Racing Register's rules with the classic motorcycle movement. Many of the classic clubs (eg Tauranga Classic M/c Club, one of the largest and oldest in the country) have a rolling 25-year age limit, and accept machines of any national origin.

So my C102 (1961), CB77 (1965), XS650 Trackmaster (1971), XL250 (1973), RD400 (1977), CB400/4 (1977), and my CB1100F (1982) all fit for classic club rides.

Go on - let's take over some of the classic clubs. They have clubrooms and organisational structures, and now that some of the older guys are fading away, they could do with younger members, too.

Voltaire
16th February 2009, 09:58
Folks, please don't confuse the Classic Racing Register's rules with the classic motorcycle movement. Many of the classic clubs (eg Tauranga Classic M/c Club, one of the largest and oldest in the country) have a rolling 25-year age limit, and accept machines of any national origin.

So my C102 (1961), CB77 (1965), XS650 Trackmaster (1971), XL250 (1973), RD400 (1977), CB400/4 (1977), and my CB1100F (1982) all fit for classic club rides.

Go on - let's take over some of the classic clubs. They have clubrooms and organisational structures, and now that some of the older guys are fading away, they could do with younger members, too.

I see what you are saying....I am a member of the Vintage Car Club and they have a large motorcycle section....and they go on rallies and runs.
I don't go to many runs as I can't be bothered with the "left at the third roundabout" navigation rallys....fine on old slow Brit singles but 70's bikes just wanna go.
Maybe I should get off my arse and put my T110 back together.....and the 6T...and the mopeds.......and the CB125.:eek5:
maybe after the Kombi single cab project.....sigh....

TripleZee Dyno
16th February 2009, 10:01
Hopefully this wasnt the last. I would like to tag along although I would need a couple of months notice. Biggest problem would be figuring out which one would be the least of a mission to get even semi roadworthy and the time to do it. I am thinking about it so thats a start.
cheers
John:rockon:

Ixion
16th February 2009, 10:18
As the lone Brit,the Thunderbolt won it's class.It was beautiful,and seemed to be running well,and keeping up a good pace....although I don't know if you were working your butt off while the rest of us were having a lazy old day....

No, I was just cruising. One of the things I'd forgotten about the Briddish iron was how very easy it is to ride at a reasonable pace. I would have been working harder on the BMW or SV1000 , at the pace we were going. Of course, turn the wick up , and the story would be different.

Voltaire
16th February 2009, 10:26
Hopefully this wasnt the last. I would like to tag along although I would need a couple of months notice. Biggest problem would be figuring out which one would be the least of a mission to get even semi roadworthy and the time to do it. I am thinking about it so thats a start.
cheers
John:rockon:

Hey Guys ....a sponsor!!!:woohoo:
Maybe we could all visit your shop for tea and bikkies one Saturday?
My mate says you do the cleanable filters ?
Tell us more....

Ixion
16th February 2009, 10:28
Motu, I think that what we're seeing is more guys participating with "young" classics. By that, I'm referring to the bikes that are considered old by current standards, yet rejected by the likes of the vintage clubs for being too modern. These "young" classics still offer a satisfying riding experience performance-wise and have adequate suspension and brakes, yet aren't in the same league as a modern bike.

The '70s and '80s bikes currently sit in no-mans-land, being of an age that makes them cheap but of increasingly questionable reliability for daily transport needs. They're not rare yet, collectible enough, or financially viable to restore. This is a generalisation, and I know that some would still use their older bikes for commuting, but those folk are a shrinking minority.

I'm just happy to see these bikes getting used, maintained and enjoyed.....

It really drove home to me on Sunday the 'generational' gap between the BSA and the other bikes there. It was only 10 years or so, but it could as well have been half a century. The difference wasn't just a matter of degree (better this or that) ; it was a qualitative difference- like comparing a cell phone with one of those old 'box on the wall with crank handle phones' . Whereas the difference between the others and modern (ie last 5 years or so) bikes is only a matter of degree. A GS1000 is the same essential sort of bike as a Bandit (or even a GSXR1000). The modern will be 'betterer' in lots of ways, but the essence is the same.

Which is not to say the riding experience on the old 'un was inferior. Just different. Depends on the roads, too. The BSA doesn't really like motorways. But on those back roads it was in its element. And very easy to ride. I've ridden those roads on the SV , and had to work at it, while the BSA just rumbled happily along.

The bikes I have from the "modern classic" time are two strokes, so that's another distinction yet again.

Max Headroom
16th February 2009, 10:50
Hopefully this wasnt the last.
cheers
John:rockon:


John, I doubt that this will be the last ride using this format, we had a good time. We've been doing similar rides under the "Blast To The Past" title elsewhere on the forum for a while now (look under "Meetings & Events") and had very good support for those rides too.

This ride was a little more relaxed, with plenty of opportunity for talking sh!t and not writing off the whole day.


Go on - let's take over some of the classic clubs. They have clubrooms and organisational structures, and now that some of the older guys are fading away, they could do with younger members, too.

Pete, I hear what you're saying about clubs. In the past, clubs were one of the few ways to meet others with similar interests and stay in touch with them. Now though, with the wonders of the interweb and portable electric speaking trumpets, club membership is becoming less attractive and less flexible compared to forums like this.

So unless a club can offer useful add-ons like cheap insurance or spares, the traditional club format is no longer as appealing for me. I am no longer a member of any club, partly because of the time commitment if I'm attending regular meetings, partly because of membership fees, and partly because I've found that one-make clubs can often be too one-eyed.

my $0.02...

Ixion
16th February 2009, 10:55
And clubs so often end up importing a lot of political baggage into the deal.

PeteJ
16th February 2009, 11:17
Yeah, I realise what you mean about the Net and forums like this. However, meeting places seem to be an integral part of any ride organising, or meeting, come to that.

(And :whistle::whistle::whistle:as the old guys drop off the tree, club membership may be the best way to get straight on to the bikes that will become available...)

Max Headroom
16th February 2009, 11:35
And clubs so often end up importing a lot of political baggage into the deal.

Yeah, I wasn't going to mention that, but it was in the back of my mind.....

PeteJ
16th February 2009, 12:46
Seen the political baggage and outright bullshit quotient on this site???

HenryDorsetCase
16th February 2009, 13:00
Folks, please don't confuse the Classic Racing Register's rules with the classic motorcycle movement. Many of the classic clubs (eg Tauranga Classic M/c Club, one of the largest and oldest in the country) have a rolling 25-year age limit, and accept machines of any national origin.

So my C102 (1961), CB77 (1965), XS650 Trackmaster (1971), XL250 (1973), RD400 (1977), CB400/4 (1977), and my CB1100F (1982) all fit for classic club rides.

Go on - let's take over some of the classic clubs. They have clubrooms and organisational structures, and now that some of the older guys are fading away, they could do with younger members, too.

I would have any one of your bikes. In fact do you have any unmarried daughters, Dad?

PeteJ
16th February 2009, 13:11
I would have any one of your bikes. In fact do you have any unmarried daughters, Dad?

No.

I expect that if you saw my OSSAs, you'd be asking about my sons, too....

Max Headroom
16th February 2009, 13:31
Seen the political baggage and outright bullshit quotient on this site???


Yep, and now that the classic thing here on KB has its own subtype, I have a quicklink to it and don't generally go near the rest of the site. I'm naively hoping we can avoid that stuff here....

Meanwhile, here's a few piccies from our ride yesterday.

meeting at BP Bombay:
<a href="http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/r90s_2006/?action=view&current=P1000212.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/r90s_2006/P1000212.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

at rest at Kaiaua:
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PeteJ
16th February 2009, 14:28
I was another that had a hard time deciding about this run or the adventure riders' softcock latte ride yesterday.

Went on Crisis management's adv ride, and had a great time. No pics up yet....

The adv riders are by and large grown-ups, too. (I'm the exception...)

TripleZee Dyno
16th February 2009, 17:27
Hey Guys ....a sponsor!!!:woohoo:
Maybe we could all visit your shop for tea and bikkies one Saturday?
My mate says you do the cleanable filters ?
Tell us more....
Gingernuts OK? or do I need to stock up on round wines?
More than welcome but its self service for the tea.
BMC and DNA filters, generally for late model Euro and Japanese bikes. Pod filters available as well.
cheers

Motu
16th February 2009, 18:13
Best moment of the day? - seeing the two kids as pillions high five each other when they stopped next to each other in Hunua.

Makes me feel guilty about my selfish motorcycle riding.....next time I will include one of my boys too.

Motu
16th February 2009, 21:44
I saw an interview with Jeff Smith where he was saying the classic bikes of the moment are what is in people's memories - that's why there is no big interest in Pope's and Hendersons these days,no one can personally remember them.They want bikes they saw when they were kids,bikes they wanted but couldn't afford when they were teenagers.That's why we are seeing an interest in Z1's and other Japanese bikes from the '80's,because that's what the guys in their '40's remember when younger.I don't consider them classics because I never had any interest in them at the time.In the '80's I was riding bikes I remembered when I was a kid.....I was riding my '62 Norton,and my ''modern'' R60/5.Never even looked at bikes in the shops.Now I'm riding an '80's bike....given time I'll get to the 21st century.

PeteJ
17th February 2009, 08:05
I saw an interview with Jeff Smith where he was saying the classic bikes of the moment are what is in people's memories - that's why there is no big interest in Pope's and Hendersons these days,no one can personally remember them.They want bikes they saw when they were kids,bikes they wanted but couldn't afford when they were teenagers.That's why we are seeing an interest in Z1's and other Japanese bikes from the '80's,because that's what the guys in their '40's remember when younger.I don't consider them classics because I never had any interest in them at the time.In the '80's I was riding bikes I remembered when I was a kid.....I was riding my '62 Norton,and my ''modern'' R60/5.Never even looked at bikes in the shops.Now I'm riding an '80's bike....given time I'll get to the 21st century.

Yeah, agree. Then you progress exactly as the motorcycling world did when the machines were new, for reasons of comfort, power, and speed.

My first restoration was a 1946 Ariel, because I remembered watching one being raced and scrambled when I was a kid, then another couple of Brit bikes (still have an Enfield or 2), then the CB77, because that was what I lusted after when I first had my licence, then some 70s stuff to relive actual days, then to the CB1100 because it's comfortable and fast. Then I turned the 1100 into a racer.

Dodgyiti
22nd February 2009, 19:38
The '70s and '80s bikes currently sit in no-mans-land....

Exactly, like at my place between the barbed wire and the Mastiff dug trench trenches

Voltaire
26th February 2009, 06:36
The '70s and '80s bikes currently sit in no-mans-land



Crikey Max, I don't know about you ,but I refuse to keep my bike in the kitchen or laundry:laugh: