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supraman_nz
28th January 2009, 20:43
Iv got an 06 ZX6r and just recently the rear end has started to feel like it is sliding around and sort of running wide in some corners, its hard to explain but i hope that makes sense.
Its only just started at around the time my wear bars on my rear tyre showed up . Is it just a case of rear tyre needing replacing? Or something else?

Thanks
Taz
28th January 2009, 21:07
Iv got an 06 ZX6r and just recently the rear end has started to feel like it is sliding around and sort of running wide in some corners, its hard to explain but i hope that makes sense.
Its only just started at around the time my wear bars on my rear tyre showed up . Is it just a case of rear tyre needing replacing? Or something else?

Thanks

Not running a conti road attack are you?
supraman_nz
28th January 2009, 21:08
Nah am running Parelli Diablo's front and rear. Front was replaced recently and got loads of tread but the rears up for replacing (was on it when i got the bike)
98tls
28th January 2009, 21:13
Not familar with the bike but out of interest does it have a slipper clutch?
supraman_nz
28th January 2009, 21:14
Nah it doesnt
98tls
28th January 2009, 21:18
Nah it doesnt I only asked as the TL had an early version of a slipper and when banging it down in the twisties it would fail miserably causing lock-up rear wheel sliding etc.
supraman_nz
28th January 2009, 21:19
Yeah i have a feeling that it was an option but not 100% sure.
This isnt a one off event but happens almost everytime i take it out for a ride. It certainly doesnt give me any confidence to lean very far.
98tls
28th January 2009, 21:24
Fwiw maybe a tyre pressure thing?The fact thats its not an old bike should rule out suspenders,other than that no idea,good luck and post up your findings eh.
supraman_nz
28th January 2009, 21:25
Thought it was a tyre pressure as well so went in and made sure it was at a recommended pressure (even look on forums to see what other bikes were running and they were similar to mine).
Am gonna take it into get a service and new rear so hopfully this sorts it out.
discotex
28th January 2009, 21:42
Are you hitting the wear bars across the whole tyre or just the centre? Sounds like a case of a squared off tyre to me.
supraman_nz
29th January 2009, 06:57
Yeah wear bars only in the centre are showing , there is still a reasonable amount of tread on the outside.
vifferman
29th January 2009, 07:17
If it is substantially squared off, it will be a little reluctant to tip into corners, then feel really dodgy when it's leaned over. Plus (also!) tyres have a limited number of heat cycles in them, and not infrequently can be 'had it' even if they've still got tread. It's probably just done it's dash. Well - definitely done it's dash, if it's down to the wear bars.
supraman_nz
29th January 2009, 10:20
Thanks for the input everyone, booked in for new tyre this week!
steelestring
29th January 2009, 15:15
Not running a conti road attack are you?

Why do you ask this question? Is there weird happenings with this tire I dont know of? I am to change to road attacks for the winter tis all....hmmm
I am currently using race attacks, they feel nice.
Taz
29th January 2009, 15:23
Road attack is an extremely competent tyre but a mate and I who have used a few now are a little disappointed at how they square off so quick even with no commuting duties and they are not lasting very long either....
steelestring
30th January 2009, 13:03
Road attack is an extremely competent tyre but a mate and I who have used a few now are a little disappointed how they square off so quick even with no commuting duties and they are not lasting very long either....

Dam thats a bummer. Would have thought the road attack version would have been a better lasting tire. :blink:

Good price for good grip though? They are still dual compound eh?
MSTRS
30th January 2009, 13:34
Dam thats a bummer. Would have thought the road attack version would have been a better lasting tire. :blink:

Good price for good grip though? They are still dual compound eh?

They are not dual compound.
I'm very happy with PR2s. 16000+kms and still going
Taz
30th January 2009, 17:32
They are not dual compound.
I'm very happy with PR2s. 16000+kms and still going

16000kms from the rear?
AllanB
30th January 2009, 19:37
Sounds nackered. Light it up and replace it. The difference will be amazing.


Loving my PR2's as well :2thumbsup
Owl
2nd February 2009, 06:38
Loving my PR2's as well :2thumbsup

+2 Best wear I've had so far!:yes:
The Stranger
2nd February 2009, 06:59
Road attack is an extremely competent tyre but a mate and I who have used a few now are a little disappointed at how they square off so quick even with no commuting duties and they are not lasting very long either....

How many km is not long?
MSTRS
2nd February 2009, 08:48
16000kms from the rear?

Yep. Just a smidgeon off 17000 now...and look, they are not squared off.
cowpoos
2nd February 2009, 10:25
Iv got an 06 ZX6r and just recently the rear end has started to feel like it is sliding around and sort of running wide in some corners, its hard to explain but i hope that makes sense.
Its only just started at around the time my wear bars on my rear tyre showed up . Is it just a case of rear tyre needing replacing? Or something else?

Thanks
Might be the rear shock...if the bladder has gone that separated the oil and gas. it could feel unsettled. PM robert taylor and ask him to recomend somewhere where you can go to have it checked out. Or PM Jayracer37 he might have a nosey if you take the bike to him.
supraman_nz
2nd February 2009, 15:35
If it is a case of something wrong with the shock then would it be able to be identified by a mechanic in a service? Or would it be a specific thing a person in the know about suspension would recognise?
NinjaBoy
2nd February 2009, 22:44
If it is a case of something wrong with the shock then would it be able to be identified by a mechanic in a service? Or would it be a specific thing a person in the know about suspension would recognise?

I think your biggest problem would be trying to convince a mechanic that there is a problem. I am aware of one late model zx6r where the shock was not gassed up properly but he was wearing out tyres like no tomorrow (< 3000km per rear - he's far from a hard rider !)

As suggested by other people, check the tyre pressures first. Front 32-34,Rear 38-40 depending on your preference. Or replace the tyres if they are that far gone.
cowpoos
3rd February 2009, 07:05
If it is a case of something wrong with the shock then would it be able to be identified by a mechanic in a service? Or would it be a specific thing a person in the know about suspension would recognise?
not necisarily...I don't have alot of faith in mechanics when they are away from the motor...they simply arn't taught bugger all about suspesion.
supraman_nz
3rd February 2009, 10:18
Well i will get the rear changed and then see if the problem still occurs, if it does then i will get in contact with the people you recommended to see if the shock is the problem.
supraman_nz
6th February 2009, 07:52
Well i got the rear tyre changed, pretty sure the problems still there but its not as bad. Is there anywhere in wellington where i can get my suspension set up properly ?
cowpoos
7th February 2009, 15:43
Well i got the rear tyre changed, pretty sure the problems still there but its not as bad. Is there anywhere in wellington where i can get my suspension set up properly ?
get hold of robert taylor and ask him...or jayracer37. [<-- he racer zx6r for a few years did jay]
TimeOut
8th February 2009, 08:01
Yep. Just a smidgeon off 17000 now...and look, they are not squared off.

Love my PR2 12000km

But where is the wear marker, is it when the line that runs right around the centre of the tyre (as in MSTRS photo) has gone?
pritch
8th February 2009, 09:31
Love my PR2 12000km

But where is the wear marker, is it when the line that runs right around the centre of the tyre (as in MSTRS photo) has gone?

I don't think so, but then I don't use Michelin. Usually there are little rubber "bridges" across some of the sipes. (The grooves in the tread.) When you reach them it's time to replace the tyre, they indicate minimum tread depth
MSTRS
8th February 2009, 10:12
I don't think so, but then I don't use Michelin. Usually there are little rubber "bridges" across some of the sipes. (The grooves in the tread.) When you reach them it's time to replace the tyre, they indicate minimum tread depth

Yep. I just had a look at mine, and there is one in the sipe, about 30mm to the left of that 'line'. The tread depth at that point is still about 2.75mm, so I have miles left still.
TimeOut
8th February 2009, 10:44
Yep. I just had a look at mine, and there is one in the sipe, about 30mm to the left of that 'line'. The tread depth at that point is still about 2.75mm, so I have miles left still.

Found it, thanks heaps.

Only have about 1mm left, bout time to replace me thinks. The lower k's could be our corse chip seal down here, the left side is looking a bit chewed as well.
MSTRS
8th February 2009, 10:45
Found it, thanks heaps.

Only have about 1mm left, bout time to replace me thinks. The lower k's could be our corse chip seal down here, the left side is looking a bit chewed as well.

More likely your riding style and the fact you have a torquey single.