View Full Version : Mitaka brand engine parts?
B0000M
29th January 2009, 11:15
anyone got anything good or bad to say about these?
http://www.motoxparts.co.nz/motoxspares.php?brand=100&category=93
All 65cc - 85cc $89.95 - $99.95
All 125cc $109.95
All 250cc $128.00
piston, ring(s) gudgeon pin, circlips
cheap as
Reckless
29th January 2009, 11:26
Never heard of them B0000M but I must say I'd pay the extra hundy and pay for the Wiesco or factorys good manufacturing history. Bloody hard to suss them out till you've used a few and seen if they crack etc. Still we are probably paying to much for the name brand ones and these could be fine. Up to you mate do you risk it or not???
Where do they say they are made??
B0000M
29th January 2009, 11:30
ive found on google a site which says they are taiwanese,
more research required i think.
price is right though!!
Reckless
29th January 2009, 11:42
Second thing I noticed was the very little "NZ$ convert" thingy on there? Does this mean the prices are USD and need to be converted to NZD. Its quite unclear on the web site. Now that would make a big difference. It would bring your 250 piston kit up to about $245-00NZD. I came up with this theory when looking at the Ktm gripper seat/sticker kit combination for only $139-00. Seemed to cheap to be true! the graphics kits are $250-00 in the shop without the seat cover??
You better check it out further and let us know!
noobi
29th January 2009, 12:00
MITAKA dirt bike engine parts are number one selling manufacture of dirt bike parts in the UK and also one of the top in Europe so you know you are purchasing a high quality product that has been tried and test, purchase all your hard dirt bike engine parts here at Motocross Parts.
this sounds interesting, maybe have a look on the pomi dirt bike forums and see if they say anything about MITAKA
Ixion
29th January 2009, 12:01
The RZ guys have done a lot of arguing about Mitaka pistons.
General consensus is that they are OK, sort of, but tend not to last as long as other brands. Some people have had bad experiences. But then some people have probably had bad experiences with other brands
There's a LOT of debate about whether it is a good or bad thing to use the ring expander.
They're a cast piston not forged like Wiseco. Which is good, and bad.
barty5
29th January 2009, 12:12
Never heard of them B0000M but I must say I'd pay the extra hundy and pay for the Wiesco or factorys good manufacturing history. Bloody hard to suss them out till you've used a few and seen if they crack etc. Still we are probably paying to much for the name brand ones and these could be fine. Up to you mate do you risk it or not???
Where do they say they are made??
let me know next time you want wiesco parts sure i can do you a good deal.
Reckless
29th January 2009, 12:18
let me know next time you want wiesco parts sure i can do you a good deal.
Cheers for that mate for that! I never had a problem with Wiesco although I am one of these guys that always warms the bike before riding like you have to with a forged piston.
B0000M
29th January 2009, 12:27
ive bought other things from that site and prices have always been in $NZ
Reckless
29th January 2009, 12:40
The RZ guys have done a lot of arguing about Mitaka pistons.
General consensus is that they are OK, sort of, but tend not to last as long as other brands. Some people have had bad experiences. But then some people have probably had bad experiences with other brands.
Theres probalby some that have said the same about Factory ones and Wiesco as well. Good feedback though thanks!
ive bought other things from that site and prices have always been in $NZ
Shit then $139-00 for the full sticker kit and seat cover is bloody good! I suppose now your gonna tell me that includes Grab & snatch tax (GST) as well!!!
B0000M
29th January 2009, 12:44
Theres probalby some that have said the same about Factory ones and Wiesco as well. Good feedback though thanks!
Shit then $139-00 for the full sticker kit and seat cover is bloody good! I suppose now your gonna tell me that includes Grab & snatch tax (GST) as well!!!
yea, i am.
kezzafish
29th January 2009, 14:27
yeah i've had JE pistons from MXparts they're super helpful. Old fella i dealt with seemed to know his shit. I think they're members on here too. they did a bit of shameless self promotion a while ago on a few threads. I've never heard of that brand before either BOOM but Taiwanese don't sound as good as American does it. I'd buy it and try it 'cos i'm a cheap bastard and if you have problems i'm sure the fellas at MXparts will sort you out (ask first)
cheese
29th January 2009, 15:40
Yeah I got some weird brand for the RM once, it turned out to be Athena. I'd just be very wary of cheap parts in a performace machine. an extra $100 for a piston is cheap compaired to $1000 for a new cylinder. And I only need a new piston ever 2 years (50 hours) lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
barty5
29th January 2009, 16:10
Yeah I got some weird brand for the RM once, it turned out to be Athena. I'd just be very wary of cheap parts in a performace machine. an extra $100 for a piston is cheap compaired to $1000 for a new cylinder. And I only need a new piston ever 2 years (50 hours) lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
nothing wrong with Athena (not that ive heard off anyway) widely used in the US and what i put in my 426. German company if i remember. They make a lot of big bore kits
http://offroad.parts-unlimited.com/13/94/6353162?q=athena
http://offroad.parts-unlimited.com/13/142/6352061?q=athena
jt119
29th January 2009, 16:20
used them in a yz 250 and 97 cr250 and in the 04 ive got now seem fine but i change them around 50 hours enyway but you get what you pay 4
telliman
29th January 2009, 16:25
Yeah I got some weird brand for the RM once, it turned out to be Athena. I'd just be very wary of cheap parts in a performace machine. an extra $100 for a piston is cheap compaired to $1000 for a new cylinder. And I only need a new piston ever 2 years (50 hours) lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
its ok, its a 2t, apparently they cost nothing to rebuild!!!
B0000M
29th January 2009, 17:04
where can you get a piston and rings for your 4 stroke for under $130? or $200? or even $250?
Reckless
29th January 2009, 17:10
oh don't forget the valve reseating/grinding and possibly some new Titanium valves, inspect the cams, reset valve clearances, new timing chain etc that go with it.
Don't forget Telliman's into MX not enduro so the power delivery of the 4 stroke (his CRF) is the thing to have in that arena. Thats until someone cares enough make a 2smoker go like that. But Telli was a 2 stroke man he's just winding us all up :clap: :Pokey: :lol:
B0000M
29th January 2009, 17:17
Don't forget he's into MX not enduro so the power delivery of the 4 stroke is the thing to have in that arena. Thats
u talking about me?
Reckless
29th January 2009, 17:24
no Telliman sorry B000M should have said "post edited"
B0000M
29th January 2009, 17:30
haha, either way it was a loaded question. i ride enduro / trail events as well as compete in mx events.
in the club i race in, at the top 3 of the A grade, there are 2 2stroke 250s and a 4 stroke 450.
its a myth that 2 strokes are no good. its all about the marketing from the manufacturers as you've mentioned before reckless.
telliman
29th January 2009, 17:48
haha, either way it was a loaded question. i ride enduro / trail events as well as compete in mx events.
in the club i race in, at the top 3 of the A grade, there are 2 2stroke 250s and a 4 stroke 450.
its a myth that 2 strokes are no good. its all about the marketing from the manufacturers as you've mentioned before reckless.
haha, thought that would get ya going, for wat its worth i do plan on adding a 2t to the stable soon, the main thing is that we are all on 2 wheels, thats wat makes us all special!!!
Reckless
29th January 2009, 17:51
yeh but there's is some merit in the 4 stroke. I've been told by some very good racers that the 4T power delivery is an advantage. It is very linear and I can see how it would aid lap times.
Thats comparing the undeveloped YZ250/Cr250/Kx250 with the effort they've put into the 4 strokes over the last 5 years or so. Think how an 09 CR250 would go if the same effort was put in. Better than a 4 stroke I reckon! I must admit that my mates 08 WR450 and a 08 450 Husaburg I ride now and then seem like armchairs compared to my 2T.
Reckless
29th January 2009, 17:55
haha, thats wat makes us all special!!!
Yeh! "Special Needs" in my case!! <_< :sick::whocares:
telliman
29th January 2009, 18:01
Yeh! "Special Needs" in my case!! <_< :sick::whocares:
haha, dont be so hard, i actually have video of you doing a couple of laps at ardmore, not bad at all!
barty5
29th January 2009, 19:15
where can you get a piston and rings for your 4 stroke for under $130? or $200? or even $250?
What do you want the piston and rings for ill price up for you should be able to do you a good deal.
hopefully have website up soon.
Reckless
29th January 2009, 19:32
haha, dont be so hard, i actually have video of you doing a couple of laps at ardmore, not bad at all!
Shit is it small enough to email, never seen myself ride??
telliman
29th January 2009, 19:40
Shit is it small enough to email, never seen myself ride??
pm me your email, i;ll send it tomorrow night,will get my usb cable in the morning!
LittleJohn
29th January 2009, 20:23
Shit then $139-00 for the full sticker kit and seat cover is bloody good! I suppose now your gonna tell me that includes Grab & snatch tax (GST) as well!!!
There are a few places that get them direct from the US or other manufacturer's. Makes it heaps cheaper. I managed to get a full graphics kit and seat cover for my KX125 off ebay for NZ$150 to my door (i.e. including postage). The same set would have cost me $270 here from the local suppliers.
noobi
29th January 2009, 20:56
I emailed the website and he says that all the prices on the website are in NZD
camchain
29th January 2009, 21:38
After waiting over a month for OEM KTM piston, and ending up with wrong size I'm still trawling for a piston. I should have Burt Munroed one up out of coke cans myself.
Turns out Mitaka only make a couple of KTM pistons but some info giblets I came across are: Their pistons are OK but their rings wear fast, some say had bad experiences others say no probs. Both views could potentially be true if production consistency a problem. Found one seemingly very reputable UK 2 stroke engine rebuilder has started selling them as quality now much better.
I'm now looking at one of these Pro-X jobs. Anyone had any experience with them? Neither the Pro-X or Mitaka look like they have the Vertex type anti-friction coating (dark stuff on skirt apparently is some silicon/teflon brew?). Is this coating anything to write home about?
Ixion
29th January 2009, 21:42
According to the researchs of the RZ fanatics, Pro-X and Mitaka come from the same factory. And are (as one might expect) pretty much of a muchness as regards quality and usch.
B0000M
29th January 2009, 21:44
well thats a good sign then, ive used pro-x pistons in my last 2 bikes and 2 jetskis with no issues to date! as well as mates bikes.
where was this info linking pro-x & mitaka? (link)
Ixion
29th January 2009, 22:02
It is somewhere in the forums here (http://www.yamaha-rd.com/). Dunno where though, but there's LOTS of discussion about pistons. RZ owners talk about very little else (except the vagaries of powervalves) . There's a search function
warewolf
30th January 2009, 10:55
Was told that the Pro-X black-cage bearings aren't so good, don't like high rpms. Pro-x piston with KTM bearing (or Pro-x silver cage) should be ok.
Pierce
30th January 2009, 11:40
I must admit that my mates 08 WR450 and a 08 450 Husaburg I ride now and then seem like armchairs compared to my 2T.
Oh yeah i know what you mean, RaglanAsh let me have a blast on his injected 09 CRF450 last ride at Ardmore and it was like riding a fast farm bike. SO EASY TO RIDE and easy to fast:niceone:
I'll stick to my 2T :first: Starting to get the feel for it now:clap:
Reckless
30th January 2009, 11:52
yeh Pierce I rode those bikes on a Mr Moto last time out and they seemed very plush but in saying that I did ride 4strokes (from on here) 08Crf450 (before he got the Husky) out the sandpit and it seemed very heavy through the trees, I was already tired and gave the bloody thing back to him pretty quick. So each type of riding is different. I'd have the 450 for the farm rides but my Ktm200 for anything a bit more difficult. Each to their own I suppose!
telliman
30th January 2009, 13:59
Oh yeah i know what you mean, RaglanAsh let me have a blast on his injected 09 CRF450 last ride at Ardmore and it was like riding a fast farm bike. SO EASY TO RIDE and easy to fast:niceone:
I'll stick to my 2T :first: Starting to get the feel for it now:clap:
i still dont get wat you mean by "easier to ride", when i had my 2t it was more just point and squirt, which was as easy as it got!
crazyxr250rider
31st January 2009, 10:42
450s are easier to ride,too a point but the extra weight and power can wear you out real fast if the going gets tight and tough ,wheras the 2t is more flikable and more manageble in tight terrain and if ridden cleverly just as fast...
telliman
31st January 2009, 11:40
450s are easier to ride,too a point but the extra weight and power can wear you out real fast if the going gets tight and tough ,wheras the 2t is more flikable and more manageble in tight terrain and if ridden cleverly just as fast...
exactly!!!!!!
crazyxr250rider
31st January 2009, 12:07
Holy fuck someone agreed for once.......instead of a gay little:girlfight:
camchain
31st January 2009, 12:37
Was told that the Pro-X black-cage bearings aren't so good, don't like high rpms. Pro-x piston with KTM bearing (or Pro-x silver cage) should be ok.
Interesting but doesn't sound too promising to me. If they can't make a bearing cage properly can you really trust the rest of it? Been trying to track down an D size piston for my 200 and apparently none of any brand in the country. Have you tried a Pro-X Warewolf?
Bloody NZ Peso now down to 50 cents US. We're all in for a nasty price shock when fresh crop of imports starts ariving in the country.
warewolf
1st February 2009, 11:02
Interesting but doesn't sound too promising to me. If they can't make a bearing cage properly can you really trust the rest of it? Been trying to track down an D size piston for my 200 and apparently none of any brand in the country. Have you tried a Pro-X Warewolf?It's not necessarily that the cage itself fails, but rather that the black cage indicates a lower-spec bearing than the silver series. Haven't tried a pro-x yet.
camchain
2nd February 2009, 22:57
Came across another piston brand while stooging around: Namura. Quality reports don't appear too good though.
MikeyVsTree
15th December 2010, 07:50
hey guys,
has anyone used a mitaka connecting rod? was thinking about getting one from mx parts and getting them to fit/balance my crank..
barty5
15th December 2010, 11:00
hey guys,
has anyone used a mitaka connecting rod? was thinking about getting one from mx parts and getting them to fit/balance my crank..
they dont fit and balance but there is a guy out west who dose it for 60 bucks
they'll give you his number their rods are normally royal seam ok
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