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v8s&2wheels
31st January 2009, 16:07
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-200080720.htm

Not a bad looking bike

I see the ks are very high. Could this be a problem? Wanting to know what i should offer for it. he wants to do a trade on my zxr250 in my profile.

Or should i just stay away from it?

Thanks

portokiwi
31st January 2009, 16:17
Thats a very nice looking bike.
but dont just buy it becouse it looks nice..... Thats something I would do:doh:
shop around i see what you meen about the trade and cash its just what is he willing to accept.
Do full checks on it as well.
I hopes this helps...
There are better guys here that can give you the advice you need mate.:niceone:

v8s&2wheels
31st January 2009, 16:19
its not just the looks. its a nice bike overall too. I was only wanting a 600 sports bike but those 900s only have about an extra 20ish HP over a 2000 model 600. Its what ive been looking for and would be very easy if i can just swap and cash. Saves a lot of time and hassles. Just the kms are putting me off quite a bit

portokiwi
31st January 2009, 16:24
Thats why I stuck with the 900. the RF900 that I just got (96) is much lighter then my ZX9R (96)that i crashed.
But it has the power when needed.
Good all round bike.

FruitLooPs
31st January 2009, 16:25
In contrast to a smaller bike like your zxr250 those bigger bike engines get a fairly unstressed life. Where as a zxr250 engine will likely get tired by 60,000km of 10k - 18k rpm thrashing a 900cc could pootle around idling all day long, highway included.

Provided its been serviced and not thrashed to an inch of its life that engine should have plenty of life left in it. If it's like most other hondas anyhow.

I know the 80's oilboiler gsxr 750 & 1100's easily surpass 100k on the clock, and I've heard of a few with well over 200,000km overseas.

Get a compression test, check for leaks, rattles bearing play and worn out shocks etc. A trade might be a really good deal for you though.

v8s&2wheels
31st January 2009, 16:26
Im a bit daunted with that sort of power only ridden 250s before. Thinking a 600 was a good step up. But i can always just ride the 900 softly and ease into it ae

bsasuper
31st January 2009, 16:27
Ive owned one, it is high k's but if its been serviced regularly it wont be a problem.Just do the usual checks, not blowing blue smoke, check gearbox operation-they are prone to jumping out of 2nd gear under accleration, make sure the bottem end dosnt grumble on start up.I would make an offer of 3.5 -4k if your paying cash or less with your trade.They are a great bike and should give you many more k's of enjoyment.Dont be put off thinking its got to much power, the factory quoted 125bhp but in reality they are more around 110-115bhp,but still a very quick bike, anyway 100bhp for a street bike is enough.

v8s&2wheels
31st January 2009, 16:32
it looks to be well maintained? Think i will go for it.

scracha
31st January 2009, 16:39
it looks to be well maintained? Think i will go for it.

Fark...that's a big jump mate. I wouldn't have the restraint. Paul wot owns kiwi rider magazine bought one of them (same urban tiger colour scheme) last weekend. They will definitely be collectors bikes in a few years.

Taz
31st January 2009, 16:59
The original will be more collectible in 10-20 years.

Zoolander
31st January 2009, 17:06
its not just the looks. its a nice bike overall too. I was only wanting a 600 sports bike but those 900s only have about an extra 20ish HP over a 2000 model 600. Its what ive been looking for and would be very easy if i can just swap and cash. Saves a lot of time and hassles. Just the kms are putting me off quite a bit

Truth is a modern 600 is quite a bit faster than an early blade. I owned one of the first generation CBR900s and it was quite a nice bike. It hated the Dunlops it was wearing though and I never had faith in the front end. They feel way better on bridgestones from my experience. Pretty reliable so if its been cared for properly high ks shouldn't be a huge problem. Just remember its not only the engine that needs servicing, suspension, linkages etc will suffer with age and mileage so should also be maintained as appropriate.

Good luck, make sure you test ride it if possible first.

bsasuper
31st January 2009, 17:28
Ive still got my 92 blade that i purchased new.It clocked up 170,000ks before the bottem end went, but I skipped a few oil changes and paid the price,But the good news is Ive got a bigbore kit to install all 1040cc of it.

klyong82
31st January 2009, 18:31
Great bikes I have owned two of this SC28 models. Given the high k's you have to check the rotors are still good and the regulator/rectifier (R/R notorious to fail). Apart from that its just the usual wear and tear pads, chains and tyres etc. Personally I think the price is too high. I would pay 6k for the 92 or 93 RRN models (white, blue & red coloured blades) which are very valuable. But go for a test ride - I am sure its bound to give you a big smile with the power and acceleration. They are heavy and bulky wide bikes compared with the nowadays design.

v8s&2wheels
31st January 2009, 23:08
Fark...that's a big jump mate. I wouldn't have the restraint. Paul wot owns kiwi rider magazine bought one of them (same urban tiger colour scheme) last weekend. They will definitely be collectors bikes in a few years.

yeah its a bit of a jump ill just be careful.

When i first got my 250 all i did was ride my mates xr200 once at the river. Did my test and then bought the 250. Was confident with in hours. Wont be the same with the 900 but i know i wont go harder than i feel comfortable with. And that person thats quoted 115 odd HP. That eases my mind as the 2000+ model 600s ive looked at have 100-110. So fairly same amount of power. With a 900 sound

bladerider97
1st February 2009, 13:05
I may be a bit biased (I have a 97 model). But they are a great bike, don’t be scared of it. It was my first Road bike. As long as you just take it easy until you get the feel for it.
They make enough power for everyday riding in the 3-5,000rpm range so you don’t have to rev its nuts of all the time (although it is tempting). This also makes them a lazier ride than a 600.
I note in the add that the tires have been on for 6,000 and still have lots of tread, so it obviously hasn’t been ridden very hard, as that is about all I get from mine (although this depends on compound)
The price though may be a bit steep, I thought mine which is a 97 with 48k would be worth around that.

v8s&2wheels
1st February 2009, 15:39
I may be a bit biased (I have a 97 model). But they are a great bike, don’t be scared of it. It was my first Road bike. As long as you just take it easy until you get the feel for it.
They make enough power for everyday riding in the 3-5,000rpm range so you don’t have to rev its nuts of all the time (although it is tempting). This also makes them a lazier ride than a 600.
I note in the add that the tires have been on for 6,000 and still have lots of tread, so it obviously hasn’t been ridden very hard, as that is about all I get from mine (although this depends on compound)
The price though may be a bit steep, I thought mine which is a 97 with 48k would be worth around that.

Im only worried that its done so many kms etc.

Paulus
2nd February 2009, 10:23
My brother sold his tidy 93 with under 50000km for $4500 not too long ago. $6000 is too high for one with those miles on it. All sorts of expensive mechanical bills could be just around the corner.

I sold my old 98 R1 for $6500 and it also had only 50000km on it and was extremely tidy.

Personally I think an early Blade is too big a jump from a 250 - do you really want to find out the hard way?

nallac
2nd February 2009, 10:58
This one looks a better buy + a more realistic price
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-200840631.htm

v8s&2wheels
2nd February 2009, 16:58
This one looks a better buy + a more realistic price
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-200840631.htm

yeah saw that one.

Has anyone seen my bike on here? Am i dreaming thinking of getting $3k for it? i want to sell quite soon to get a bigger bike.

hang0ver
2nd February 2009, 18:17
The price though may be a bit steep, I thought mine which is a 97 with 48k would be worth around that.

Agreed.

My 98 has done around 26,000 and I'll try flick it off for around 6K in a couple of months. That will be with complete new bodywork. Courtesy of my brother reversing into it on Friday.

puddytat
2nd February 2009, 19:49
Agreed.

My 98 has done around 26,000 and I'll try flick it off for around 6K in a couple of months. That will be with complete new bodywork. Courtesy of my brother reversing into it on Friday.

That'd be the one I'd buy.....

v8, is it the model that had the smaller sized front wheel than the rear? I have heard that the ones that did were tanslapping slappers....:(

Sollyboy
2nd February 2009, 20:01
its not just the looks. its a nice bike overall too. I was only wanting a 600 sports bike but those 900s only have about an extra 20ish HP over a 2000 model 600.

I dont know if would be 20hp , head to head with a 2000 gsxr 600 it may come off second best , throw some corner in and its game over blade, dont forget thats a basically 92 blade with a different paint job and a bit more suspension adjustment , those 16 inch front maybe a bit harder to get good tyre for now day and double check for death rattle in clutch basket and also jumps out of second gear

Zoolander
3rd February 2009, 12:09
That'd be the one I'd buy.....

v8, is it the model that had the smaller sized front wheel than the rear? I have heard that the ones that did were tanslapping slappers....:(

All blades before the 929 model had a 16 inch front wheel. Its not as bad as its made out to be as far as tankslappers go, remember when it first came out the competion was gsxr1100s, fzr1000s, etc, basically long wheelbase heavy whales, so the market wasn't really used to short, lightweight, powerful bikes. I think my R1's were twitchier than my old blade. Something like a zx10r would probably be even more so, minus a steering damper anyway.

And plenty of companies make suitable rubber for the 16 inch wheel, you can't go wrong with bridgestones, from my experience stay away from Dunlops though!

EJK
3rd February 2009, 12:36
I think THE CBR900RR is now on KB

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=91715

bladerider97
3rd February 2009, 14:19
All blades before the 929 model had a 16 inch front wheel. Its not as bad as its made out to be as far as tankslappers go, remember when it first came out the competion was gsxr1100s, fzr1000s, etc, basically long wheelbase heavy whales, so the market wasn't really used to short, lightweight, powerful bikes. I think my R1's were twitchier than my old blade. Something like a zx10r would probably be even more so, minus a steering damper anyway.

And plenty of companies make suitable rubber for the 16 inch wheel, you can't go wrong with bridgestones, from my experience stay away from Dunlops though!

I dont find mine twitcy either.

I have had no problems getting tyres for mine, I have always had bridgestones on it. They usualy dont have any in stock but can always get them in quickly.

v8s&2wheels
3rd February 2009, 16:07
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-201106502.htm

Found a new bike im more interested in. Hes only 5 mins down the road too not 5 hours. Anythings to be said about this bike? What do i need to know about them?

puddytat
3rd February 2009, 16:27
Has it had its valve clearances done ?A lot of bikes need a good look at a
around those k's,generally theres no problems but it is an expensive service....
what I find a tad wierd is he's been a member since 01 , done only 18 trades & there has been no feedback submitted....but hey Im a tad paranoid :doobey:
For another 1500 I might sell you my R6.....

v8s&2wheels
3rd February 2009, 16:41
Has it had its valve clearances done ?A lot of bikes need a good look at a
around those k's,generally theres no problems but it is an expensive service....
what I find a tad wierd is he's been a member since 01 , done only 18 trades & there has been no feedback submitted....but hey Im a tad paranoid :doobey:
For another 1500 I might sell you my R6.....

If your keen on using my zxr250 as a trade in then let me have it. lol

scracha
3rd February 2009, 17:13
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-201106502.htm
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ZX6, no touchy with bargepole IMHO..

As for modern 6 hundies being just as quick. Well it's torque wot makes you hit warp speeds, not power. And power is a function of torque and all that but to cut a long story short, you're more likely to find yourself coming into a corner at warp speed on an old 900 at 6000rpm than on a modern 600 at 12000 rpm.

Myself, I'd look for a tidy exup 1000, thundercat or if you must, a thunderace.

v8s&2wheels
3rd February 2009, 17:36
ZX6, no touchy with bargepole IMHO..

As for modern 6 hundies being just as quick. Well it's torque wot makes you hit warp speeds, not power. And power is a function of torque and all that but to cut a long story short, you're more likely to find yourself coming into a corner at warp speed on an old 900 at 6000rpm than on a modern 600 at 12000 rpm.

Myself, I'd look for a tidy exup 1000, thundercat or if you must, a thunderace.

dont really like yamahas that much except the r6 etc. Im just trying to find an affordable modern 600 sports bike for a step up from a 250. i would only have the bike a year or 2 before i would want more. I would rather have a newer 600 than an older 900 as a newer bike hasnt aged so much.

All things aside is this zx6r an alright bike? I believe it is.

Marmoot
3rd February 2009, 19:40
The fireblades (except the 92-93 model) is more stable with their 16" front than early model R1. But if you can spare the money, steering damper is always a welcome addition on any bikes.

If you're buying old blades, watch out for two things. (1) voltage regulator and electrical systems, make sure they run fine. Ask the guy if you can come and start it when it's cold too, just to make sure it cranks finely. (2) cam chain tensioners are known to go every now and then on these bikes. Make sure there is no excessive rattling, especially when idling. A little idle rattle is fine as the clutch plates do make more rattle than other bikes.

Other than that, great choice those blades. They are fast and can be lethal in the wrong hands, but if you respect them and learn on them gradually (especially considering you're from a 250) you should be fine and can look into a lot of happy times. Just keep in mind full throttle = 250kph+.

scracha
3rd February 2009, 23:06
All things aside is this zx6r an alright bike? I believe it is.

I'd stick with the honda's and yamahas mate. They seem to age a lot better. I've not got fond memories of Kawasaki parts prices either.

Cue comments from pissed off Suzuki and Kawasaki owners but I've had a fair few of them all. That said, there's bound to be a GSXR750 with "one careful owner who's never taken it above 100 and maintained it with no expense spared"