Pay it forward - Biker style

[Tank]

Chatting over the weekend - I was talking about how many people in the biking community 'pay it forward' to other bikers and how great this is.

They were shocked that there was such a positive 'vibe' and that strangers would do so much to help people that they don't even know.

I'm sure that you all have your own stories to add - But some of mine have been:

Frosty and his kids fun days. My son loved it and it was the highlight of his for months (now he wants a bike of his own).

The Wednesday night Mentor training evenings - Several people have run this - so much training and time given - all for free. You could not get a much better training even if you paid for it (from the nights I went to).

Devil - Coming out to my house one night to teach and help me setup suspension correctly.

Its stuff like this that make you want to do the same for others - thus ensuring a positive upward spiral.

Post your own stories - and remember to try and so the same for others.

[dogsnbikes]

We are a tight group regardless if we know each other.....

After visiting the motorcycles unleashed exhibition in Palmerston North,I contacted the Orion MC club in the Manawatu and offered them all the Ty 175 parts I had in the shed as there Ty was looking a little worst for wear....

As it worked out the TY is there club bike so they were very thankful for the parts...too give a indication on what parts there was all that was required was tank,frame,triple clamps and swing arm to build a working bike....

Oh I am still cleaning out the shed....so there will be more parts for other bikes to give away

Do your bit and put a smile on a bikers face well anyones face for that matter

[gijoe1313]

All I know is when I pull over to help out stranded cagers, they are most shocked! First there is the thought "oh hell, we are gonna get done over by a filthy biker scum", then there is the flabbergasted reply which is stuttered out when I ask what is wrong and what help they need!

For all bikers parked on the side of a road I happen to be pootling down, I slow down (making sure it is safe to do so) and do the thumbs up inquiry. More often than not, everything is hunky dory - if otherwise, then I pull over and render assistance as required.

Heavens knows how many times I have done this, but without fail I do so ... for I ride many lonely miles in many a lonely part of our lovely country - I never know when I may require the same assistance myself!

Do unto others as you wish done unto yourself! :yes: I pay it forward as much as possible, whenever possible!

[ManDownUnder]

Pay it forward?? Best policy on the planet!

[vifferman]

I Like to help out where I can, but I'm worried about the wrath I'm accumulating: "No good deed goes unpunished". :buggerd:

[Mully]

Pay it forward?? Best policy on the planet!

Yup, I concur.

Miss Mully was doing her first longish ride (following me) and the bike died (turns out it was out of gas, and she ran the battery down trying to start it). Anyhoo, bloke (rider but in a ute) pulls over and helps get her going again (even had a 5 litre fuel can in the back!!) and off we went. In the meantime, 2 other bikers stopped and looked until I gave them the thumbs up.

I usually (sometimes I'm running late) stop when I see a bike parked in a funny place. I like the fraternaty of the biking community.

[madbikeboy]

This is a unique community, I keep saying this.

Some examples:
A few weeks ago, I know a guy who was in a very dark place, he posted on KB and instead of mocking, he got amazing advice, and some PM's from some members who gave advice, help, support (thank you MsKABC, Winston001, GIJoe, 98TLS, 007XX, the Guzzi Widow).

Or, when that same guy needed some parts for a race bike - the number of people who have offered help or parts - Cajun, you're the top of that list, along with Glen H, Vtec.

On my scorecard, I've ridden with newbies who needed help or mentoring, and ended up with friends out of it (Jaymez for example, a good young guy), and I've helped with dropped bikes, and gotten mates to the hospital, given people freebies, and I stop everytime I see a bike on the side of the road (despite the tongue lashing that earns me).

Apart from a few notables, I think this community is full of good bastards and bitches.

[Devil]

Devil - Coming out to my house one night to teach and help me setup suspension correctly.


... i hear he stole a copy of The Long Way round on dvd too. That bastard.
:shutup:

[Ixion]

What goes round comes round.

[ManDownUnder]

What goes round comes round.

and long may it f'n continue!

[martybabe]

Incoming :

Only broke down once,on a sport tourer, seat off tools out jobby. Three different lots of rat bike riding Hells Angel types stopped and offered assistance. clearly we rode in different worlds but they were good bastards all the same.

Outgoing :

Always stop if needed and..... Honda rider lost it on a local bend, I pushed the bike all the way uphill to my house and effected repairs sufficient to make it rideable, an hours hard graft, never met him before or since.

Harley rider had a bad off by my house, ran up the road to find him in the middle of the road, obvious broken leg, bloody cars trying to drive round him and loads of people just staring. I grabbed a couple of geezers to block the road off, made sure the Ambo had been called and sat holding his hand and chatting till the paras arrived. I kept his bike in safe storage and broke the news gently to his lady who thanked me kindly and rang with news of his recovery periodically.

You can't beat the pay it forward buzz eh.

[MSTRS]

... I pushed the bike all the way uphill to my house ...

Fark!! I've seen your driveway. How's your hernia?

[enigma51]

Im not much of a giver .......










I am the pay forward tax collector.

[JacksColdSweat]

It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.


Yo MBB

Where's that quote from? (If you don't mind me asking...)

cheers

[vifferman]

What goes round comes round.
Not in my experience ("no good deed goes unpunished"). :blink:
Perhaps I was a really evil unhelpful bastidge in a previous life....

[mister.koz]

What goes round comes round.

yeah i gotta agree, i got so much help starting up riding, i go out of my way to help anyone with riding/mechanical/parts else i can..

i see it as if i stay in credit, good things can flow.

I haven't helped in a pinnacle situation like poor bugger with a broken leg on the road but i have spent many late nights helping people out, whether it be talking about them for confidence/advice or pulling their bike apart and helping mechanical or electrics :) it helps that i like doing that sorta stuff anyways.

[mdnzz]

A while back riding out to Amberley on my old GSX750 saw a bike being wheeled alone the side of road, outta gas, offered to give him a lift to town to get some but he said all good and turned into the drive way we were at.

Coming back form a ride round the hills and my bike decided to die (XS1100). Ignition playing up, sat there got her going and it would cut out. Guy on a trike stopped to check if all good. I managed to get it started and it stayed running, gave him the thumbs up and as he rode off noticed he had a wheelchair on back.

I've seen plenty of bikes on side of the road and I will always slow down and help if possible.



I sometimes even stop for cars if they look desperate :gob:

[martybabe]

Fark!! I've seen your driveway. How's your hernia?

:laugh: Twas the house before this one J,up an even bigger hill and the poor bugger had got a damaged leg when I eventually found him in the bushes, I was well knackered shoving that bastard on my own.:sweatdrop

[yungatart]

Always put people up and do what we can to help stranded bikers.

Our family has been on the receiving end of countless acts of kindness from fellow bikers, but more particularly KB'ers.

I'm proud to be a part of this community.

[Genestho]

Hope you're a little perkier MBB!!!!

I have always been apart of the pay it forward scheme.
Particularly for me - in my hours of darkness, I have met some real good bastards, who rushed to my aid within our local and past, biker communities.
It is my pleasure, and I am glad, to be in a position to be able to help anyone if and where possible, in their times of need.
What goes around comes around.

Id also like to thank KB'ers that have helped me go forth :hug::yes:

[Gubb]

Agree with MDU, I try and live like that too.
Had many a time where i've put my hand up and asked for help, got it from all sorts of places, with all kinds of Bikers.

Borrowed a set of tie-down from GIJoe and borrowing Devil's amazing trailer are the two that come to mind most recently.

I've also made damned sure that i'm well in the black with the Biker-Gods. Can't have them smiting me now can we?

[FROSTY]

I honestly consider myself the luckiest bastard around.
So many amazing acts of generousity from KBers Its hard to think of a specific.
A bunch of KBers turned up at my wedding-tears in my eyes I tell ya
A KBer VERY recently sorted out no 1 sons bike for him
A Kber donated a set of armour for baby bike and another gave hime a cool leather jacket.
Some kbers turned up to help me shift house.
Im not overly religious but I honestly think I've been blessed that so many of you have passed it forward my way

[Mom]

Pay it forward is something we should all aspire to achieve.

We were coming home from a weekend away last year and saw a young fella pushing his bike in the opposite direction, on the flat and about to tackle a huge big uphill two lane road. We stopped, turned around and went back to check if all was ok. He was out of gas, pushing towards the nearest servo. His Dad was on his way to meet him, and all was good. It is what you do :yes:

I am a big believer in pay it forward. I got told today I would get my reward in my next life for making a quick call and asking a question for an elderly lady. It cost me 1 min of my life, and maybe $1.

[MarkH]

I got told today I would get my reward in my next life

Not true - when you help someone out that good feeling you get, that is your reward and you don't have to wait for your next life to get it. When you are in a position to help a fellow person/animal dwelling on this chunk of rock - it feels good to do it. Mostly it costs very little to be kind to others and the world would be a far better place if more people did the same.

[The Stranger]

I got told today I would get my reward in my next life

You've been had. When you're dead that's it. Finished.

[wbks]

I don't really know a lot of bikers off this site so all of these will be off of KB members:

I invited into a pit shed by two people rather then sweat it out in my car in almost 40C heat at MotoTT and had most of the riders in the one I parked my bike in regularly offer me food and water, and even got a riding tip or two which helped a lot instantly. I thought at the time (and still do) that this was awesome from people who likely didn't even know my name, and who I had only met that day.

I was looking at a bike about 4-5 hours away from me but I couldn't buy it without checking, but it was too much of a drive and gas money than I could spare for what looked to be more than likely a junker. A member I had never met before was pleased to go check it out for me (guess he wanted a joyride on the bike:shifty:) and give me a pretty detailed report on it and what he thought of it.

Got a pretty cheap bike off someone out the way and he even through in a free tube, disk, and a few other things in for free. He's popped up with even more brand new parts to fit the bike for free since.

Another one was the people who tried to help me get into my car that I locked myself into and two even offered to give me some wire clippers so we could cut a wire out of the roadside fence.:laugh: I ended up just smashing the rear quarter window anyway, getting into the car in time to grab some gas and tools out of the boot but I appreciate the help. I got told more than once it's too good of a car to brake into without smashing anything... I guess I need to trade it for a ford or something, huh:laugh:


You've been had. When you're dead that's it. Finished.That's not true? DAMNIT!... Back to stealing from blind men I go...

[Mom]

Not true - you don't have to wait for your next life to get it.

So now you tell me! Sheesh, I have been building up all sorts of credit points for the hereinafter-life. So I am to be disappointed next time around, should not be surprised really, story of my life to date :msn-wink:


Mostly it costs very little to be kind to others and the world would be a far better place if more people did the same.

I so agree with you mate!

[Nasty]

Our home has always been an open home to those who need a bed ... even with Grub passing on it is still an open home for those who need a bed. Grub would do anything for anyone ... even those who are not always like around here ... and those people and others have repaid in looking out for me ...

There are many on here who have helped me in the past few months and even longer when Grub and I travelled ... We both believed in pay it forward and always endeavour to look out for others ... I still do so where and when I can ... even the smallest thing helps ... trust me of that I know!

Of course there are always too many to thank .. as I know I would miss out some who make a big impact ... but the reality is that I so thank all those who help me as it enables me to continue to help others.

[Mom]

You've been had. When you're dead that's it. Finished.


Oh well, wont be the first time I have been had really. Dead/finished sounds good really, no more shit to decipher.

[wbks]

Oh well, wont be the first time I have been had really. Dead/finished sounds good really, no more shit to decipher.Cheer up, emo kid! :shit:

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Pete and i have long since been advocates for pay it forward.

[Nasty]

It amazes me how people feel the need to advertise. What do they want a medal?

Its funny ... as most of us would see this thread as advocating a well known practise ... and others as putting themselves forward to help others ... letting others know that they have stuff that can be done for them .. if needed ... or genrally thanking those in the community that have achieved a little something special ... there is possibly something that those who don't do or know could learn without being abused or thanklessly thought of advertising.

[zalforce1]

I havent received a lot of random acts of kindness or given any out but thats becoz im new to biking and never been in the situation to give or receive help. What i enjoy is riding down the road and nearly always getting a friendly wave or nod from a biker coming the other way. As a relatively new biker its like your instantly welcomed into the community. Its one of the many joys of biking.

I'll always nod or wave to any biker i see. So make sure you nod or wave back :niceone:

[Number One]

It amazes me how people feel the need to advertise. What do they want a medal?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Gee - well done you for adding that sarky undertone that KB can be famous for in what has been a relatively positive thread.

Did it cross your mind that maybe there is an element of KB sustaining a culture that sees doing good as a positive and that members are both willing to recognise and thank others for this and that actually this might then encourage others to do good deeds also? How bad is that.

No one is winning a trip to the Bahamas or whatever by telling what they have done. AND I'd wager that no amount of silly green bling or online pats on the back from strangers (in some cases) will rival the satisfied glow you get 'because you truly wanted to help and contribute something to someone and you were able to and you DID'

[Tank]

For what its worth - you will note I only mentioned things that others have done - and thanked them. It was supposed to be a chance to recognize the good that some have done and to inspire others to do the same.

There have been so many negative threads on KB lately - I thought a positive thread would be a good thing - oh well - Next time Ill go start a waving poll.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

: will rival the satisfied glow you get 'because you truly wanted to help and contribute something to someone and you were able to and you DID'


I can asure you that we have helped a great many kbers. And will continue to do so.

[Number One]

I can asure you that we have helped a great many kbers.
I was NOT implying that you didn't know what that satisfied glow feels like.

[The Stranger]

There have been so many negative threads on KB lately - I thought a positive thread would be a good thing - oh well - Next time Ill go start a waving poll.

No good deed shall go unpunished - that's all your Karma used up.
You can earn some more by polishing my bike.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

No good deed shall go unpunished - that's all your Karma used up.
You can earn some more by polishing my bike.

And while he is doing yours you can do ours:whistle: And keeping with the pay it forward i'll polish Tanks

[mister.koz]

...
There have been so many negative threads on KB lately - I thought a positive thread would be a good thing - oh well - Next time Ill go start a waving poll.

Negativity and criticism grows easier and takes less effort that positivity and compliments. KB is no exception :)

I thought it was a good thread, the whole pay it forward idea is a good way to live; its a rewarding way of life even if you don't get the same courtesy back.

[Headbanger]

I waved back to another biker the other day,

But then I ignored the next seven, and when I got home I kicked the cat......twice.

Its all about balance....








....without it you fall over.

[DingoZ]

For all the character bashing, and the differences in opinion, some in good jest, some not, that goes on on KB. I would hope that everyone would if faced with someone in need, help out where and with whatever they could, in whatever way they could.

Since I have only been riding for just over a year and half, I have met some really wonderful people, and I have recieved some valuable advice. And will therefore repay in kind, what has been recieved.


:done:

[FROSTY]

Ya know Thinkin about this (thanks Tank ya made me actually think) Its Karma . Ive seen it a shit loada times where just the right person turns up at just the right time to help out.

[Conquiztador]

You do what you can.

KB:
In: Have had places to crash when needed. Been lent a bike to use for son's license. THANKS!!
Out: Have helped others with fixing stuff. Helped one to find a job. Support.

Non-KB:
In: Countless of help on road, help in garage, help when racing.
Out: Countless of help on road, help in garage, help when racing, mentoring, advice (even if it at times might be of questionable quality), a beer!

As there is nowhere after this where to collect, I use the feel-good factor as a substance to keep going when times are tough.

But there is also one more reson to do the "Pay It Forward". At times when you do it, the one you do it for gets really humbled by a complete stranger wiling to give up time to help for nothing. Surely that will make even the most cynical person a little bit better? And they then will "Pay It Forward". Lets live in hope!

[MSTRS]

I can asure you that we have helped a great many kbers. And will continue to do so.

And non-KBers too. We (and she) won't forget...

[sinfull]

And while he is doing yours you can do ours:whistle: And keeping with the pay it forward i'll polish Tanks
Mmmmmm Now i know my tanks filthy but it seems a long way to travel just to get it cleaned


Ya know Thinkin about this (thanks Tank ya made me actually think) Its Karma . Ive seen it a shit loada times where just the right person turns up at just the right time to help out.
Aint that the truth !!!
Like to think my Karma is in credit and it does seem to always work as you say ! To the point where i don't even stress too much, thinking it'll happen for me !
This forum is pretty spesh though, had a situaton where i needed (could have done without, but really wanted the bike set up with clipons that weekend) some parts picked up in auck ! A young biker stuck his hand up and ran around, WAY out of his way for me just so i had these bits that weekend ! Then refused any sort of renumeration for it !


And non-KBers too. We (and she) won't forget...
Speaking of paying it forward, remember ya mentioned graphics hehe, i got me a few that need doing soon (couple of sets of numbers and sponsers names) How busy are ya ?

[MSTRS]

Speaking of paying it forward, remember ya mentioned graphics hehe, i got me a few that need doing soon (couple of sets of numbers and sponsers names) How busy are ya ?

Hit me, big boy...

[sinfull]

Hit me, big boy... Email sent !!! Ya gonna crack up when ya see who my sponsors are !

[elevenhundred]

I binned my bike on the west coast in the middle of nowhere a few years back. A biker going to pick up firewood in his truck stopped to help and ended up sticking the bike in his truck, driving it to Nelson then had it shipped to Wellington for me.
I continued on holiday (albeit on the back of my mates bike) and it when I got home the bike was waiting at the depot for me.
He said he stopped to help me cos someone helped him when he ran out of gas in the Aussie outback.
Ever since then I stop for everytime for bikers... and most cars if it looks like they still need help.

[Gubb]

This forum is pretty spesh though, had a situaton where i needed (could have done without, but really wanted the bike set up with clipons that weekend) some parts picked up in auck ! A young biker stuck his hand up and ran around, WAY out of his way for me just so i had these bits that weekend ! Then refused any sort of renumeration for it !
What a sap.

Email sent !!! Ya gonna crack up when ya see who my sponsors are !
Bourbon companies?

[MarkH]

He said he stopped to help me cos someone helped him when he ran out of gas in the Aussie outback.

This is exactly what 'pay it forward' is about - you do good deeds for others and it makes them think about how great it is that you were willing to help them out, this inspires them to start helping others out too. The end result is a huge number of good bugers on this site and elsewhere that are willing to put up a weary traveller for the night or bring out a trailer to pick up a broken bike or whatever.

To all the good buggers here: :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

[coffeejunkie]

Ok so i'm not sure if this is paying it foward or not but here goes.......

We got 3 good deeds in one weekend

Balzy and i were on a group ride last saturday(Primo day), Got a bloody puncher which resulted in a flat tire in the bloody middle of no where,

1st deed was Group effort by the rest of the riders(you all know who you are)and the dude who lives across from the school got us up and running again,

2nd deed was Chanceyy who gave me a lift so Balzys tire could mend alittle,

And the 3rd deed was yungatart and MSTRS who scored us a cheap temp tire till the funds pick up,

So now we have 3 lots to pay foward and were looking foward to it

[FROSTY]

Reminds me--Wasn't there a movie on that subject?

[MSTRS]

Yep. Based on a book. Good family film

[Beemer]

We are happy for touring motorcyclists to stay at our place for a few nights, use our workshop and internet connection, etc purely because we enjoy their company. So far we haven't been disappointed - out of the more than 22 people who have stayed here, only two wouldn't be welcome again - the rest have been brilliant.

I stopped two years back after seeing a bike broken down on the side of the road and found two 17 year-old Swedish guys whose chain had come off for the umpteenth time. Went home, got my husband and the bike trailer, picked them up, sourced a new chain (it was Easter Sunday too!), gave them a bed for the night and fed them. I hope that if we are ever in strife in some foreign country that someone will stop and help us - and I bet they will.

Just farewelled Nick (UK biker) who stayed here last night, and hope to see more riders in the future.

[The Pastor]

a biker was just pulled over for speeding in front of me, so i did a wheelie past the cop while doing the fingers, obviously the cop took offence so he chased me, then obviously i lost him by way of excessive speeding.

the end result. That biker didnt get a ticket!

all in days work

[Headbanger]

only two wouldn't be welcome again - the rest have been brilliant.



What did they do?

I can't imagine what sort of weirdo would accept accommodation and then do anything to upset the hosts.

[Ixion]

Perhaps they were confused about the traditional precept of hospitality, and kicked the cook and called the cat a bastard?

[Number One]

Perhaps they were confused about the traditional precept of hospitality, and kicked the cook and called the cat a bastard?
Some cats are bastards!

[Ixion]

Actually, I've never found one whose parents were married! But kicking the cook might be disruptive ?

[Beemer]

What did they do?

I can't imagine what sort of weirdo would accept accommodation and then do anything to upset the hosts.

The first drank us out of house and home, never lifted a finger to help (if he'd offered we would have said no, sit down and relax, but he never even offered), smoked like a chimney and threw the butts in our garden, had bizarre food allergies, stayed for too long (I was dumb enough to let him stay a second time on his way back north) and didn't so much as bring a single bottle of wine to say thanks on either occasion.

The other one was a solo biker and very hard work conversation-wise. He didn't share much information about himself and he made US feel like strangers in our own home!

All the others have been brilliant - five German couples, two English couples (and one couple brought their daughter), an American couple, two Swedes, and the latest - Nick from the UK. All were easy to talk to (even allowing for language difficulties) and left as friends.

[Beemer]

Actually, I've never found one whose parents were married! But kicking the cook might be disruptive ?

Sad, but true for the first part! The annoying thing is, one of our cats, the one who really doesn't warm to strangers, slept on the bed with the first guy - traitor!

As for cooking, none kicked me, but the first guy didn't eat vegetables apart from potatoes because apparently they contain aspirin. As the other half pointed out, with the copious amounts of alcohol he drank, he'd probably swallowed heaps of vegetable matter anyway!

[Number One]

The first drank us out of house and home, never lifted a finger to help (if he'd offered we would have said no, sit down and relax, but he never even offered), smoked like a chimney and threw the butts in our garden, had bizarre food allergies, stayed for too long (I was dumb enough to let him stay a second time on his way back north) and didn't so much as bring a single bottle of wine to say thanks on either occasion.
I bet $100 dollars I know who that one was...and if it was you aren't the only KBers that guy has done it to.

[Number One]

As the other half pointed out, with the copious amounts of alcohol he drank, he'd probably swallowed heaps of vegetable matter anyway!
OMG I am convinced I know who this is :lol: makes me feel much better to know others had this experience of him actually - sorry

[Beemer]

I bet $100 dollars I know who that one was...and if it was you aren't the only KBers that guy has done it to.

Just got your PM and was amazed to find it was NOT the one who stayed with us! However, he did stay with other KBers and I know at least one who had the same experience we did. Even took him away for a weekend to a nice holiday location with some other bike mates and he treated the place like a hotel and didn't take any stuff to share with anyone!

That's terrible to think there are actually two like him!

[Number One]

Just got your PM and was amazed to find it was NOT the one who stayed with us! However, he did stay with other KBers and I know at least one who had the same experience we did. Even took him away for a weekend to a nice holiday location with some other bike mates and he treated the place like a hotel and didn't take any stuff to share with anyone!

That's terrible to think there are actually two like him!
YUP people like that make good people think twice about lending a hand.

BTW - we never shook on that bet so it doesn't count :lol:

[Beemer]

YUP people like that make good people think twice about lending a hand.

BTW - we never shook on that bet so it doesn't count :lol:

I shook hands with Shelby (cat on my profile) so I think that does count...!

The worst thing was, that first prick was the first guest we'd had, so we lived in fear of them all being like him! Thankfully the next ones to stay were Tanja and Christian and we really liked them!

[vifferman]

Just got your PM and was amazed to find it was NOT the one who stayed with us! However, he did stay with other KBers and I know at least one who had the same experience we did. Even took him away for a weekend to a nice holiday location with some other bike mates and he treated the place like a hotel and didn't take any stuff to share with anyone!

That's terrible to think there are actually two like him!
:crazy:
Yes. Shocking.
I'd almost forgotten about his strange dietary requirements. We ordered pizza one day, from the "Hells" up the road. Everyone eats pizza, right? :oi-grr:
Well.... he ate pizza, but not as you know it. Just the base and a cheese topping.
The only other thing I can recall him eating was bagels and cream cheese. We had to buy heaps of those.

I'm glad he didn't put you off being hospitable to other bikers. It's certainly made me more wary. I did SO much for him, and got so little in return - I didn't expect much, but helping with the chores, contributing a little to the grocery bills, not creating extra work for us - that would've helped.
I had to ask him to give my (unemployed) son some gas money after he clocked up heaps of kms running him around Auckland before his bike arrived. I was kinda relieved when he decided to hire a bike and spend some time sight-seeing. I thought that was what he came to NZ for! That, and meeting people, but strangely, he seemed to have no interest whatsoever in other people, to go with his seeming lack of curiosity about new places, cultures, etc.

I was overjoyed when he returned for another visit....<_<

I hope I've recovered enough to welcome some other bikers into my home. Doubt whether the vifferbabe has though...
Yup, sad proof of "no good deed goes unpunished". :eek5:

[Beemer]

Andy took him on a BMWOR ride over to Wimbledon and had to keep stopping to wait for him - and this was after he'd made such a big deal about how he'd ridden the 'Ring so many times and how fast he was...

If guests ask if they can help we always say no, but we do like them to offer. He left his wet towels all over the floor in the bathroom, despite the laundry being directly opposite the bathroom. He left 31 butts in our garden, which I had to dispose of for him.

He ate pasta too - well, tagiatelle with grated cheese on top... and curry - well, after he'd picked out all the onions... and potatoes - well, not the wafer-thin skins of new potatoes.... but he did like beer and whiskey!

I still haven't forgiven the bloody cat for being so nice to him! But then she probably figured he wasn't a cat person and decided to piss him off by sleeping on his bed!

I'll never forget how generously he was going to thank his neighbour for looking after his place for six months, including arranging for a plumber when his boiler burst... SIX bottles of wine... that he planned to help him drink. What a man!:clap:

[MarkH]

a biker was just pulled over for speeding in front of me, so i did a wheelie past the cop while doing the fingers, obviously the cop took offence so he chased me, then obviously i lost him by way of excessive speeding.

the end result. That biker didnt get a ticket!

all in days work

That was damn decent of you :niceone:
I would love some random biker to do that any time I get pulled over.

[MarkH]

:crazy:
Yes. Shocking.
I'd almost forgotten about his strange dietary requirements. We ordered pizza one day, from the "Hells" up the road. Everyone eats pizza, right? :oi-grr:
Well.... he ate pizza, but not as you know it. Just the base and a cheese topping.
The only other thing I can recall him eating was bagels and cream cheese. We had to buy heaps of those.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I would never expect someone that is giving me free accommodation to go out and buy special food to meet my fussy requirements - if I wanted to eat nothing but bagels and cream cheese then I would buy those things and eat them. If I wanted a cheese only pizza then that is what I would buy.

So far I have only gotten accommodation from a KBer once - all I wanted & expected was a room for the night - I am old enough, big enough and ugly enough to figure out how to feed myself. The next time I head down to the South Island I don't think I'll do Auckland to Christchurch in the one day again, I'll be asking for accommodation in Blenheim. I would only be after a spare bed or a couch or a bit of empty floor for my bedroll or failing that a bit of spare lawn for my tent. I wouldn't be looking to drink a hosts alcohol and eat their food - when I get offered free accommodation I don't expect that I should get 5 star hotel service, just somewhere to crash for the night is good.

If I was staying multiple nights somewhere and drank their alcohol on the first night then I would be out the next day buying replacement alcohol for what I drank as well as enough for the next nights drinking. The only time I have ever been a moocher/sponger/freeloader is at my mum's place and only because she is my mum and is happy to feed me for free - I don't expect strangers to act like my mum.

Some people have such manners that you wonder if they were brought up or dragged up! If I was providing accommodation I would happily tell my guest to let me know if there was anything they wanted - I would not hesitate to take the time to direct them to the relevant shop!

[Number One]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

I would never expect someone that is giving me free accommodation to go out and buy special food to meet my fussy requirements - if I wanted to eat nothing but bagels and cream cheese then I would buy those things and eat them. If I wanted a cheese only pizza then that is what I would buy.

EXACTLY...geez some people - well at least I know who this is and can avoid offering him any hospitality

[Beemer]

The funny thing is, he posted on here some time last year, asking if he'd done something to offend those he met during his stay, because he hadn't heard from any of us! No shit, Sherlock!

Even if I go and stay with a friend or relative, I would turn up with something - if I was going for lunch I'd arrive with some fresh bread, tomatoes, something for dessert, etc and at least a bottle of wine or some fruit juice if they didn't drink. If I was staying for several days, I'd buy some groceries or offer to take them out for dinner or something.

The Germans all stayed at our place for several days and they ALL arrived with food or drink, and three or four of them bought the ingredients and cooked us a meal in our home during their stay.

All we ask is a little common courtesy really! And a thank you is appreciated too.

[Number One]

The funny thing is, he posted on here some time last year, asking if he'd done something to offend those he met during his stay, because he hadn't heard from any of us! No shit, Sherlock!

Interesting...must be the thing with that sort. Our man concerned made comments about '1 day I will return the favour' like whatever :rolleyes: wouldn't spend the time to catch up long enough to have him return the favour