Suzuki 150cc two smoker...

[slofox]

Ten months ago when I got my bike, (in a moment of pre-senile dementia), my neighbour looked at it enviously and said wistfully..."I want another bike but XZY (wife) won't let me...."
Last week as I exited my drive at 5.30am (insomnia you see - another part of senility...) I espied a little motorbike emerging from his driveway...
Yesterday he was out mowing the frontage so I asked him about it and he showed me his new toy - a Suzuki 150cc 2-smoker....1999 model. (I bet his wife blames ME for him getting it....)
I know almost nothing about 2 strokes from that time. Anyone here who can enlighten me on the model please? It is unlikely I will get to ask him since our paths rarely cross and I wanna know....Thanks...:D

[Cajun]

be an rg150 or rgv150(suzuki) or a kr150(kawasaki, and not very common)

[Ixion]

RG150. Damn nice little bikes. Insane of course, like all two smokers. he'll probably crash and die, but y'never know. Any rate , he'll have a shit load of fun doing it.

Just remember to tell him, two strokes only have two throttle settings. Idle and WOT. Anything else is just masturbating. And the only reason not to have the tacho on the redline is because you just changed gear.

[slofox]

Well...he DID say it went quite well.........and wants to go for a ride with me.....damn, if he busts his arse when riding with me his Mrs WILL kill me.....I did tell him to get geared up properly first though........(Mrs says gear costs too much)......geez! I told him the bike was cheap and life is expensive....

[Ixion]

SV650 won't keep up with an RG150. If the smoker's ridden well. If not, you can catch up while they're hauling him out of the ditch

[slofox]

SV650 won't keep up with an RG150. If the smoker's ridden well. If not, you can catch up while they're hauling him out of the ditch

You're a bloody little ray of sunshine, y'know that....? :killingme:killingme:killingme

It will be a while before I go riding with him - don't want to be there when he does go into the ditch......

[mark247]

SV650 won't keep up with an RG150. If the smoker's ridden well. If not, you can catch up while they're hauling him out of the ditch

RG150 isnt that fast is it, with all its 37hp or whatever?

[slofox]

RG150 isnt that fast is it, with all its 37hp or whatever?

Ixion's comment is probably made in full awareness of the fact that I will be piloting the SV.......in which case he is probably right.....:crybaby:

[gatch]

rg's are not fast like anything else 250cc and under, they are however absolute feather-weights and as such are a blast to ride, with some sticky tires they are nearly as much fun as you can have while your girlfriend still has pants on..

[MSTRS]

rg's are not fast like anything else 250cc and under, they are however absolute feather-weights and as such are a blast to ride, with some sticky tires they are nearly as much fun as you can have while your girlfriend still has pants on..

Oh yeah? The watercooled RG (V is aircooled and not as quick) has a top speed in the vicinity of 180kph. There's not too many 250s that'll do that. And I know yours won't.
A well-ridden RG will give most bikes under 400/500 a serious run for their money.

[gatch]

Oh yeah? The watercooled RG (V is aircooled and not as quick) has a top speed in the vicinity of 180kph.


thats a little optimistic i reckon man, 150 is closer, i mean a little more in favorable conditions i guess.. the dudes i know that have and do own them reckon the speedo's are hellishly inaccurate, the few times iv taken them for a hoon iv worked my ass off and still nowhere near its limit.. cool bikes, lol i got my spada up to 165-170 (once), it sounds like a sack of hammers now..

[McJim]

thats a little optimistic i reckon man, 150 is closer, i mean a little more in favorable conditions i guess.. the dudes i know that have and do own them reckon the speedo's are hellishly inaccurate, the few times iv taken them for a hoon iv worked my ass off and still nowhere near its limit.. cool bikes, lol i got my spada up to 165-170 (once), it sounds like a sack of hammers now..

Get the tensioners and chains looked at. This will save the bike and allow you to enjoy it for another 100,000kms.

My wife's RG was a scarey little bastard and absolute fun. They can be tuned beyond 40hp rear wheel (I have heard some claims of 45+) but they get a bit peaky. The reason they are considered so quick is that you simply don't need to slow down much to chuck one round a corner.

Remember that straight line speed is for pencil dicks - Real men go for handling over horsepower every time.:rofl:

[breakaway]

I used to have a RG150. It went *HARD*. I had it over 180KM/h indicated. But then again I didn't really have a point of reference since it was my first bike, so when I hop on one now I might feel that it ain't nothing special.

[gatch]

Get the tensioners and chains looked at. This will save the bike and allow you to enjoy it for another 100,000kms.

Remember that straight line speed is for pencil dicks - Real men go for handling over horsepower every time.:rofl:

yeah man the cam chain is more like cam rope now, this and tensioners are next on my fix-it list (and fork seals), spada has done about 120,000 so far, the last 50,000 have been tough..

car or bike ? debatable
http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/speed3.asp

[Ixion]

RG150 isnt that fast is it, with all its 37hp or whatever?


Did you not notice "if the RGs well ridden". RG, a good rider and a good twisty road and an SV650 would seriously be hard pressed to keep ahead. Go ask the guys who got taken by TwoSmoker when he rode them (where is he anyway?).Some thous , too.

They are seriously fast bikes on the right road with the right rider. Insane of course, and if you ride one hard you'll die . But with a shit eating grin on your face .

[McWild]

All this is making me wish so hard that I wasn't still running my new piston in...

Nothing like that ring a ding ding to start your day.

[Macros]

yeh, its a bit funny. My mate bought a gpx around the same time as I got the rg, and he's already bored of it. The RG still makes me smile.

[rachprice]

I dunno about this 'and you will die' business
But yes two strokes are rather exciting...

[MSTRS]

thats a little optimistic i reckon man, 150 is closer, i mean a little more in favorable conditions i guess.. the dudes i know that have and do own them reckon the speedo's are hellishly inaccurate, the few times iv taken them for a hoon iv worked my ass off and still nowhere near its limit.. cool bikes, lol i got my spada up to 165-170 (once), it sounds like a sack of hammers now..

RG150s do a circuit at Manfield (3.03km) in 1:28. These bikes are no different to what you would ride on the road, other than everything is adjusted just right.
Admittedly, those speeds are not sustainable on the road...
My son had a Spada that was electronically clocked at 172, regardless of what the speedo said. Cam chains should be done at 50k intervals, if you don't want to risk lunching your engine.

[90s]

thats a little optimistic i reckon man, 150 is closer, i mean a little more in favorable conditions i guess.. the dudes i know that have and do own them reckon the speedo's are hellishly inaccurate, the few times iv taken them for a hoon iv worked my ass off and still nowhere near its limit.. cool bikes, lol i got my spada up to 165-170 (once), it sounds like a sack of hammers now..

Have you riden one? When an RG (which have very inaccurate speedo's) is reading 180 they are probably in the region of 155-160kph. However, if you have enough road, a little tailwind, and a lot of time on your hands they will creep above a genuine 150kph to an eventual 180kph.

How does their speed compare to bigger bikes? Acceleration is what is about. Mine could out-accelerate easily CBR250s in head-to-heads, although at 140kph their acceleration really begins to drop of drastically. Up to 100kph they can do OK, but on the tight twistys well ridden Ixion is correct in that they can really hold their own. I posted recently that on Lone Kauri rd where I used to take mine for a spin it was much faster than my current GSX600FJ.

Where Ixion is wrong is that RGs have THREE modes - off, under 8000rpm and WTF. A "powervalve" opens at 8000rpm and then they really go nuts - something for your friends to really be aware of.

Having said that it seems as though there is no confirmation its an RG - are you even sure its a 2-stroke (or is it just small and he's assumed that)? If its the 4-stroke RGV disregard all you have read here - it'll be like riding a RG with a flat tyre. I know - I tried one.

[90s]

RG150s do a circuit at Manfield (3.03km) in 1:28.

For the mathematically challenged this is an average speed of 124kph

[FruitLooPs]

Yeah all the little blighters down here zip round ruapuna at silly speeds on them. Great first step to racing, and a real blast on the twisties for sure. I've seen Oyster get on one of his many and give the clubmans stragglers a hurry up, he normally gets ~midpack against a lot faster straight line bikes.

After getting off my 750, its like getting onto a pushbike. Incredibly easy to toss into corners at speeds I wouldn't dare on the 750 since i'm a big wuss.

Also since i've got the 750 i've not felt *too* bad about riding the RG like i've stolen it, just like it should be. It certainly has power from 9 - 12k/rpm i'll tell you that.


Also with softish forks and that snappy powerband, a first time rider (or returning after ages off) will think he's on fire the first time around :lol: Speedos are off by at least 15k/hr closer to 20 IMO. Sure does a 0 to 100 indicated quick tho! ;)

Oyster is the person to get hold of if he wants to know things about them, and service advice etc. First advice is get an external temp gauge on it since the OEM is rubbish. Also *always* get him to run it on proper synthetic oil like TTS not cheapo lawnmower stuff unless he wants a big bill quick smart.

If it's the RGV150 2-stroke, its a completely different bike. Spoked wheels, drum at the back, smaller front disc no fairing aircooled engine making heaps less power.

[MSTRS]

If its the 4-stroke RGV disregard all you have read here - it'll be like riding a RG with a flat tyre. I know - I tried one.
RGV is 2 stroke but non-power valve aircooled. Do you mean the FXR?

For the mathematically challenged this is an average speed of 124kph
Thanks...damn quick, when you consider the GP125s do 1:20s and they top out at around 220kph, and the litre bikes do 1:09s and top out at 280ish

[slofox]

- are you even sure its a 2-stroke (or is it just small and he's assumed that)? If its the 4-stroke RGV disregard all you have read here - it'll be like riding a RG with a flat tyre. I know - I tried one.

Its IS two stroke.....ya hafta put OIL innit....

[gatch]

Have you riden one?

yes, on the road, and a geared down version with tt900's on the track, i think on both i would have been lucky to be doing 160, but i cant confirm this.


RG150s do a circuit at Manfield (3.03km) in 1:28.
Admittedly, those speeds are not sustainable on the road...
My son had a Spada that was electronically clocked at 172

yes my buddy who raced one clocked 1.29, and if someone rides quick like that on the road then they deserve a gold medal for bravery and a reserved bed in hospital..

my spada will be taking a back seat to a new bike asap, at which point it will be a project.. it WILL do over 200 :D

[Ixion]

yes my buddy who raced one clocked 1.29, and if someone rides quick like that on the road then they deserve a gold medal for bravery and a reserved bed in hospital..




Insane. I told y'.

[quallman1234]

RG150's = Awesome little bikes.

Its relatively easy too keep up with any big bike ridden by a average rider over the taka's. Even easier over piecock.
Ive shown many big bikes up, without really pushing that hard.

I raced one for a year and have showed loads of big bikes up but not more so at taupo, even the long track. Had a awesome battle with a 748R once. Identical each lap. I would go around the outside going on the front straight, he would overtake me down the front straight, i would go around the outside in turn one, don't see him till the back straight, then overtake him around the outside coming onto the front straight. Happened the whole session. Did about 1:57's on the long track at taupo. And they do sub 30's at manfield just, but are limited by there top speed with the straights and all.

Awesome bikes, watch out for one if your on a bigger bike in the twisties. Don't follow em in to the corners if a confident rider is on one.

[90s]

Its IS two stroke.....ya hafta put OIL innit....

Sorry FXR is 4-stroke, RGV is 2-stroke (but being a smartass you put oil into all bikes - just depends where ... I put mine in the radiator too ... )

Having accepted my error there I stand by the comment -= I've ridden both the FXR and RGV and they both feel super-sluggish after the RG. But the FXR is even worse.

[MSTRS]

Sorry FXR is 4-stroke, RGV is 2-stroke (but being a smartass you put oil into all bikes - just depends where ... I put mine in the radiator too ... )

Having accepted my error there I stand by the comment -= I've ridden both the FXR and RGV and they both feel super-sluggish after the RG. But the FXR is even worse.

Your apology is accepted ;)
And you are right. They are sluggish. Speights_Bud races an RG doing 1:28-1:29 laps at Manfield...he tried an RGV and dropped 10+ seconds.