Operating system poll

[Bren]

Well, vista has been around for a while now so I am interested in seeing who is using it, and who uses other operating systems.

I currently use Ubuntu 8.10 running the LXDE desktop (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment)

[Nasty]

XP pro - main machines

Ubuntu for eeepc

Thats it for now.

[Finn]

Call MS an OS is an oxymoron.

[Indiana_Jones]

XP SP2.

Works for my games. Only know one person who brought Vista.

-Indy

[Hitcher]

Use XP at work and on desktop at home. Have Vista on laptop at home.

I find Vista ponderously slow to use. It's also really hard to find system settings and such things that you need, as Microsoft seems to to have completely resorted the table of contents.

The worst thing about Vista is the version of MS Office that comes with it. I mean, what were they thinking? The functionality and look and feel has completely changed. These are, or should be, standard desktop tools. Unless you're offering your users something more or better (which the Vista version isn't), then why fuck with it? I now use OpenOffice on the laptop. Suck on that Microsoft!

[PirateJafa]

Where is Windows 3.0 and 95?

Fucking biased poll IMO, obviously run by some elitist. :bash:

[Mr Merde]

About to load "Windows 7" onto a PC.

Nothing in poll for this OS

[Indiana_Jones]

About to load "Windows 7" onto a PC.

Nothing in poll for this OS

Be sure to tell us how she goes :Pokey:

-Indy

[Bren]

About to load "Windows 7" onto a PC.

Nothing in poll for this OS

I did not think that was out yet...

[ManDownUnder]

XP - for a number of reasons
1) What I need to do on a daily basis is "fluffy". Word processing, powerpoint, and email. If it was serious (back office processing) or critical I would not use MS
2) It's a desktop and what I do needs to easily interface with a global team
3) It's a corporate standard for ourt desktops because
4) Vista is crap so we didn't "upgrade" (or in non MS parlace, expose ourselves to a bunch of risks associated with new, yet to be patched, market tested code).

I'd prefer to be playing with a UNIX and a real database

I like MS - really I do *cough* b'shit *cough*

[Mr Merde]

I did not think that was out yet...


You can download a time restricted copy (Tui Ad) from their technet site.

Windows 7 RC1

Two fellow workers have already done so and found it the easiest MS OS to install so far.

2nd person to do so installed it on an older laptop with out a hitch. Once installed he put it online and it went an completed getting all the drivers it needed.

I have been told by both of them that it runs very sweetly.

I have a PC at home lacking an OS.

3mhz processor, 2 gb ram, creative graphics card etc. Just been too lazy to install an OS

This weekend I remedy this

[PirateJafa]

3mhz processor

Been a long time since I saw one of those.

[imdying]

If it was serious (back office processing) or critical I would not use MSInteresting... anything critical, I wouldn't use anything else. People who actually know alternate operating systems inside out at an enterprise level are still pretty thin on the ground (no, not those morons who've done a few linux installs and think they can make it as a system manager)... if the alternate OS guy dissappears for whatever reason, those critical systems need to remain readily maintainable without me having to spend 6 weeks looking for another admin who's worth a knob of goat shit.

[Mikkel]

Windows XP Professional 64-bit.

Tried Vista 64-bit and it was shit. Just installed XP 64-bit last week and it's heaps faster. Plus, it also allows me to run flashplayer in Iexplorer - how I missed YouTube.

I have to run 64-bit otherwise I can not properly utilise the machine's capabilities - Quadcore Intel and 8 Gb RAM - and that's imperative when doing simulation work.

I run MS apps for most easy things - when writing large or important documents I use LaTeX.

[Tank]

My main home machine OSX

Work runs primarly Vista on PC's / Laptops - Server 2008 on well, servers, and a few big HPUX boxes.

Windows 7 - meh - Its the Vista that Vista was supposed to be. Looks sharp - but I dont expect our clients to roll it out anytime soon. Had call with one client in London last night - they are just starting to roll out XP to 10,000 desktops.

We have been testing our s/w with it (and other bits) at Redmond over the last few weeks. MS labs are nerd heaven:love:

[Cajun]

About to load "Windows 7" onto a PC.

Nothing in poll for this OS

have it running in a VM here at work, seams plenty fast and stable, and faster than vista on same machine in vm.

windows 7 meant to be out by end of year they thinking

[TerminalAddict]

xp at work, vista at home, debian on servers and firewalls, ubunut on a mail server, centos on some NIS servers, Win2k3 on a webserver, win2k3

[Tank]

Interesting... anything critical, I wouldn't use anything else. People who actually know alternate operating systems inside out at an enterprise level are still pretty thin on the ground (no, not those morons who've done a few linux installs and think they can make it as a system manager)... if the alternate OS guy dissappears for whatever reason, those critical systems need to remain readily maintainable without me having to spend 6 weeks looking for another admin who's worth a knob of goat shit.

I was very involved in the design of the largest trading floor in Europe (well at the time) - you don't get much more enterprise than that - we used MS almost exclusively at the back end - with a few Sun boxes for shits and giggles.


The majority of our Enterprise clients also use MS - exclusively

[Mr Merde]

Been a long time since I saw one of those.

I know.

Fat finger disease

Must put brain into gear

[Cajun]

Home machine - Windows Server 2008
Work laptop - XP Pro

Work runs a mix aix(unix), linux, windows(most are these mix of 2000, 2003) servers. all clients windows

[jim.cox]

Where is Windows 3.0 and 95?

Same place as Windows2000 apparently

[Mr Merde]

have it running in a VM here at work, seams plenty fast and stable, and faster than vista on same machine in vm.

windows 7 meant to be out by end of year they thinking

Any problems I should look out for?

[Gremlin]

XP everywhere... either SP2 or a slimmed down SP3 in the odd place. Still using win2000 for some services as it has lower overheads.

Have specc'd out one vista laptop to a client, what a PITA that has been. Permission wise, there's this black hole around it, where applying all XP like settings, it still refuses to play ball.

Should probably start testing win 7 a bit, and also tempted when I have time to play with kubuntu 8.10 to see how mainstream it is...

[<Rhino>]

XP on my laptop

Vista on my home pc (havn't had any problems with it!)

XP pro at work.

There all the same to me!!

[NighthawkNZ]

:yawn: BeOS

[cowpoos]

Well, vista has been around for a while now so I am interested in seeing who is using it, and who uses other operating systems.

I currently use Ubuntu 8.10 running the LXDE desktop (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment)
I want windows 2000 pro again!!!!! never crashed in 4yrs...only ran 23 processes in the back round...would make my current puter run like a jet...as vista runs 119 processes in the back round with internet explorer and MS outlook open!!

[ckai]

We all have home offices in our company so we run OSX (we like things pretty and we also come to work in jeans and t-shirts and drink cognac).

Also have a vista laptop because I didn't want to infect a OSX machine with it to run some programs. My god what a nightmare..."it just doesn't work". I tried to figure out how to "downgrade" to XP and it won't have a bar of it.

[vifferman]

The worst thing about Vista is the version of MS Office that comes with it. I mean, what were they thinking? The functionality and look and feel has completely changed. These are, or should be, standard desktop tools.
I know what you mean / sympathise with you / feel your pain.
Although I run XP at work and at home, unfortunately the version of Orofice I run at home is some Vista-ised thing (Orofice 2007 or somesuch?) It's staggeringly crap. I thought they had reached the zenith (or is it 'plumbed the depths'?) of giving us what they thought we needed (i.e, change for change's sake; absolute control over what they think we want; obfuscation, frustration, etc etc.) with the last version of Orofice, but no. They have surpassed themselves.
Luckily, even though I work for a sotware house that is a "Microsoft partner", I can actually get by with not using many of their products. (IN fact, I said at my interview I wouldn't take the job unless they used my choice of documentation tools). However (but!), because we have to be at the bleeding edge, I know it's only a matter of time before I'm forced to have Vista, Windows 7 or whatever the latest horrible thing is.

[Gremlin]

The worst thing about Vista is the version of MS Office that comes with it. I mean, what were they thinking? The functionality and look and feel has completely changed. These are, or should be, standard desktop tools.
Office 2007 is still a standalone package, and Office 2003 will work on Vista. Yes, MS has entire tomes on how to write installers etc, down to options on button, amount of text etc... then they create different menu interfaces :eek:


...as vista runs 119 processes in the back round with internet explorer and MS outlook open!!
bejaysus!! Is this normal, or did you install a bunch of software (they often have a small app that will run in the background). Worst XP install I have seen is probably around 80-90 processes.

One of my own XP installs ran around 25-30 will a full complement of software installed :niceone:

[Cajun]

Any problems I should look out for?

nah its pretty much vista with out the security bullshit to make it run slow. by basic looks of it.

[Indiana_Jones]

We have Vista at work now, had 2000 before that, I miss it :(

The annoying thing about Vista is that it needs 1GB of RAM just to run the bloody thing!

So when mums and dads buy a new laptop with 1GB RAM etc, with Vista on it.

They have no clue about computers and they're stuck this OS nigthmare world where they get touched in their no-noes and cry in the corner while the evil OS sniffs their undies and puts sugar in the fuel tank.....

-Indy

[cowpoos]

bejaysus!! Is this normal, or did you install a bunch of software (they often have a small app that will run in the background). Worst XP install I have seen is probably around 80-90 processes.

One of my own XP installs ran around 25-30 will a full complement of software installed :niceone:


Yeah its a ACER multi media type laptop...with fact install of vista...most of the processes will be the bullshit extras this thing has..

[ManDownUnder]

Interesting... anything critical, I wouldn't use anything else. People who actually know alternate operating systems inside out at an enterprise level are still pretty thin on the ground (no, not those morons who've done a few linux installs and think they can make it as a system manager)... if the alternate OS guy dissappears for whatever reason, those critical systems need to remain readily maintainable without me having to spend 6 weeks looking for another admin who's worth a knob of goat shit.

It's a good point but you're talking about a resource issue, I'm talking reliability and performance

[imdying]

The annoying thing about Vista is that it needs 1GB of RAM just to run the bloody thing!Shocking! $20 worth of memory you say! :lol: Ahhhh, just be thankful you're spared the joys of eeking out an extra KB of memory from your DOS install :D

So when mums and dads buy a new laptop with 1GB RAM etc, with Vista on it.Yep, half the problem ain't Vista, it's the old and/or gutless pieces of crap it's being put on.

It's a good point but you're talking about a resource issue, I'm talking reliability and performanceYup, and Windows Server delivers on all counts :)

[Tank]

It's a good point but you're talking about a resource issue, I'm talking reliability and performance

We have several hundred servers here running Windows - havnt found any preformance ot reliability issues yet.

[RantyDave]

Solaris? Who's using Solaris as their main OS?

Dave

[ducatilover]

we can run several OS on this toy. dont ask how or why but i just use xp. my brother has set it up and somehow he uses linux on it. its beyond me:drool::baby:

[Finn]

We have several hundred servers here running Windows - havnt found any preformance ot reliability issues yet.

Probably not. I've heard Exchange will run quite well on several hundred servers. :bleh:

[Coyote]

Where is Microsoft 3.1?

Not that I have it now, but I'm hopefully upgrading to it soon.

[Bren]

we can run several OS on this toy. dont ask how or why but i just use xp. my brother has set it up and somehow he uses linux on it. its beyond me:drool::baby:

that is called Dual Booting. My system is a Dual Boot, I can boot into either Ubuntu 8.10, or XP. XP is just a waste of space, only installed it to play games on, and I dont do that much now.

[Bren]

Where is Microsoft 3.1?

Not that I have it now, but I'm hopefully upgrading to it soon.


so you are running Abacus 6.0?

[NighthawkNZ]

Where is Microsoft 3.1?

Same place as BeOS

[ducatilover]

that is called Dual Booting. My system is a Dual Boot, I can boot into either Ubuntu 8.10, or XP. XP is just a waste of space, only installed it to play games on, and I dont do that much now.

ah i learn something every day! :msn-wink:

[Indiana_Jones]

Shocking! $20 worth of memory you say! :lol: Ahhhh, just be thankful you're spared the joys of eeking out an extra KB of memory from your DOS install :D
Yep, half the problem ain't Vista, it's the old and/or gutless pieces of crap it's being put on.


Well mums and dads are the people who buy shitty Laptops with 1GB RAM that all the shops flog off.

My old man has no idea how to use a computer. He said I broke it when I opened the CD drive....

And so what if RAM is cheaper these days, besides the point it's using it up un-necessarily?

'The Warehouse generation', if it don't work chuck it out and buy another. We all do it to some degree, justs seems such a waste. Kids today :banana:

-Indy

[Coyote]

so you are running Abacus 6.0?
Nah, Leopard.

[NighthawkNZ]

We all do it to some degree, justs seems such a waste.

scrap piles of it

[imdying]

And so what if RAM is cheaper these days, besides the point it's using it up un-necessarily?You mean by having things like GUIs? Or automatic updaters? Or background images? A clock in the taskbar? A virus scanner? I don't think you're really knowledgable enough to determine what's 'unnecessary' and what's not.

[Indiana_Jones]

You mean by having things like GUIs? Or automatic updaters? Or background images? A clock in the taskbar? A virus scanner? I don't think you're really knowledgable enough to determine what's 'unnecessary' and what's not.

XP uses automatic updaters, a clock and a background picture, but doesn't need 1GB to do so.

Vista does needless things like make the menu's semi-tranparent etc, sure you can turn it off, but I still donno why it takes 1GB min, clearly I'm not PC geek.

The other major thing I can think of is the little boxes that you can put the weather and stock reports in that update etc.

I also don't count a virus scanner in the list as we're talknig about OS, not other software.

-Indy

[imdying]

XP uses automatic updaters, a clock and a background picture, but doesn't need 1GB to do so.Oh dear, you're not a bright one are you? :no:

Vista does needless things like make the menu's semi-tranparent etc, sure you can turn it off, but I still donno why it takes 1GB min, clearly I'm not PC geek.No, I take it back, at least you can see that there are things happening under the hood that you're possibly not aware of, so that's a start :yes:

[Tank]

There is nothing that makes KB members look like a bunch of big, bad, hardass bikers more than a poll and debate on the benefits and limitations of computer operating systems.
:baby:

[Indiana_Jones]

Oh dear, you're not a bright one are you? :no:
No, I take it back, at least you can see that there are things happening under the hood that you're possibly not aware of, so that's a start :yes:

I just don't like all the fnacy bells and whistles they seem to slap on these days, I just want a simple easy to use OS.


There is nothing that makes KB members look like a bunch of big, bad, hardass bikers more than a poll and debate on the benefits and limitations of computer operating systems.
:baby:

Oh you know it......Mother fucker!

-Indy

[imdying]

I just don't like all the fnacy bells and whistles they seem to slap on these days, I just want a simple easy to use OS.Same. I run XP on most things, but even on that I turn things l ike faded menus and the 3d task bar off.

[Tank]

you know it......Mother fucker!


Thats more like it.

[Indiana_Jones]

Same. I run XP on most things, but even on that I turn things l ike faded menus and the 3d task bar off.

Yea, Windows Classic view for me on my Home (XP) machine and Work (Vista) machine.

-Indy

[Ixion]

There is nothing that makes KB members look like a bunch of big, bad, hardass bikers more than a poll and debate on the benefits and limitations of computer operating systems.
:baby:


Oh, I don't know. The threads on antimacassars and lace doileys were pretty good.

And where , pray , is the option for DOS 6.22? Or, CPM ? Or, indeed, AIX ? What is th epoint of asking what OS I run when you do not include those I do.

[Lil_Byte]

I upgraded to Vista the day it came out. After persevering until last week I ditched it and went back to XP.

The rebuild time has been worth it.

[NighthawkNZ]

And where , pray , is the option for DOS 6.22? Or, CPM ? Or, indeed, AIX ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systems

[Usarka]

I prefer applications over operating systems......

[SPman]

As per Hitcher - XP Pro at work and home desktops, XP and Vista on the laptops.
Vista has some good things going for it, but, overall, it's still a pain!

[Cajun]

Oh, I don't know. The threads on antimacassars and lace doileys were pretty good.

And where , pray , is the option for DOS 6.22? Or, CPM ? Or, indeed, AIX ? What is th epoint of asking what OS I run when you do not include those I do.

our main oracle database is on AIX, have 3 aix machines(full rank mount units) in every day use production, backup(oracle dataguard fail over), testing/play

Also two small aix (desktop style) units for fiddling they are coming up 7+ years old

[k14]

I recently upgraded my 4 year old desktop (with only 1gb of ram) to vista and I seem to be at a bit of a loss at everyone bagging it. Once it boots, it seems to be very similar to XP in speed. You have to turn aero off but that is not too much of a stretch. On my other box which is brand new it is very quick, much faster than any other computer I have used recently. That is probably mainly due to it being a new machine though.

Everyone seems to bag the latest and greatest. Eventually you're going to have to get used to it because XP won't be supported for much longer by Microsoft.

[Bren]

Eventually you're going to have to get used to it because XP won't be supported for much longer by Microsoft.


either that or go Open Source.....I love Ubuntu!

[k14]

either that or go Open Source.....I love Ubuntu!
Yeah thats true, until you want to play a game, or have some random network driver issue and have to wait 3 months for the next revision to come out...

[imdying]

Open source... free if your time is worth nothing.

[ManDownUnder]

I prefer applications over operating systems......

Good cal - coz loading the Apps and THEN the OS just don't work...

[rainman]

Interesting... anything critical, I wouldn't use anything else. People who actually know alternate operating systems inside out at an enterprise level are still pretty thin on the ground (no, not those morons who've done a few linux installs and think they can make it as a system manager)... if the alternate OS guy dissappears for whatever reason, those critical systems need to remain readily maintainable without me having to spend 6 weeks looking for another admin who's worth a knob of goat shit.

Who you calling alternate? :)

I have a herd of Unix (various flavours), Linux and storage geeks if you need some, just PM me. :whistle:

[rainman]

And where , pray , is the option for DOS 6.22? Or, CPM ? Or, indeed, AIX ? What is th epoint of asking what OS I run when you do not include those I do.

I can understand the DOS, and even the AIX, but pray, tell, what do you run the CP/M on?

[TerminalAddict]

..... AIX ?.....

zomg !!!! I have certs in aix sys admin .... somewhere <_<

someone once told me, if you can run aix .. you can run anything

[TerminalAddict]

Interesting... anything critical, I wouldn't use anything else. People who actually know alternate operating systems inside out at an enterprise level are still pretty thin on the ground (no, not those morons who've done a few linux installs and think they can make it as a system manager)... if the alternate OS guy dissappears for whatever reason, those critical systems need to remain readily maintainable without me having to spend 6 weeks looking for another admin who's worth a knob of goat shit.

when the Linux geek grows up (we do eventually) they soon choose to use the right tool for the job .. if its windows, then windows it is.

fark trying to run asp on Linux (chillisoft something something = bollocks)

And some n00bs (read: managers) seem to like crystal reports and MsSQL .. far be it from me to stand their way :) .. I just make sure the DR and BC plan are working .. waiting for the inevitable :D

[Gremlin]

...and I seem to be at a bit of a loss at everyone bagging it. Once it boots, it seems to be very similar to XP in speed. You have to turn aero off but that is not too much of a stretch.

Everyone seems to bag the latest and greatest. Eventually you're going to have to get used to it because XP won't be supported for much longer by Microsoft.
It appears to be fine to you, as you seem to be a single pc user. Try hooking it into a network etc, and let the games begin. Or load business specific software.

No... I don't have to get used to Vista. I only ring MS because license keys are not working when they should. I fix problems myself, and Windows 7 will be around before MS ditch XP (they can't make a call that bad can they?)

Its very telling that XP was launched in 2001, Vista launched in 2008, and Windows 7 will probably be around by year end ('09). That spell anything out to you?

[Brian d marge]

use linux mint ( ubuntu 8.10 in a different hat),, Use open surce software fore Engineering , Calculix , nice FEA app, Open foam CFD for fluid flows , and Varicad for 3d cad , Blender for rendering ....

Works well for me , and I use a pentium 4 with a gig of ram, ( yes it works, !!)

but I dint pay ..how much ??? for vista , I didnt have to upgrade almost everything to run Vista ,,,.. no viruses , ctrl -space and the languages change ( completely ) as in I get the os in Japanese, ..., When I do have an issue there is a really supportive Forum, ....

and its all Freeeee...........

Not that everything is ok here in Linux land , my cannon pixus scanner ,,,needs a fancy bit of terminal work to make it run ,,,not the fault of Linux , but of cannon for not releasing the drivers. ( and you can understand that with linux under 0.6% of the market !)

all is good here , no pirateted software , everything I need to work with ,,,

Happy camper !

Stephen

[jonbuoy]

It appears to be fine to you, as you seem to be a single pc user. Try hooking it into a network etc, and let the games begin. Or load business specific software.

No... I don't have to get used to Vista. I only ring MS because license keys are not working when they should. I fix problems myself, and Windows 7 will be around before MS ditch XP (they can't make a call that bad can they?)

Its very telling that XP was launched in 2001, Vista launched in 2008, and Windows 7 will probably be around by year end ('09). That spell anything out to you?

Yeah you can't buy a single XP licence anymore but if you buy vista premium you can downgrade it and get a new install licence key for XP pro microsoft look like they will be supporting it for a while yet. I've got loads of apps,diagnostics, firmware updating tools that won't run on anything else. Sure I'm not the only one. XP pro has been the best so far IMHO. A lot of peoples problems on home PC's stem from peripheral manufacturers putting needless taskbar startups and morbidly obese autorun programmes where only basic driver software is needed.

[Slyer]

I'm using the windows 7 beta, it's a very very stable beta too. I haven't had any problems with it besides daemon tools not working.

Everything just... works well together, new taskbar is useful, I approve of all the changes, installs fast and easy, loads fast, runs fast.
Seems like the first OS that they've really listened to what people want.

I use xp pro sp3 at work as well, which runs mintly on what little hardware there is.

[Bren]

I'm using the windows 7 beta, it's a very very stable beta too. I haven't had any problems with it besides daemon tools not working.

Everything just... works well together, new taskbar is useful, I approve of all the changes, installs fast and easy, loads fast, runs fast.
Seems like the first OS that they've really listened to what people want.

I use xp pro sp3 at work as well, which runs mintly on what little hardware there is.

I am glad xp works well for you on an outdated system...that is one of the reasons i chose linux...xp runs sluggishly on mine, which is a 2.0ghz w/512m ram. or maybe it runs fast enough, and my perspective has changed because running Ubuntu 8.10 with LXDE makes my machine run quick...

[Slyer]

My work PC is a 2.4 P4 with a gig of ram. I think my standards are just high though haha...

Oh yeah I should note that, Windows 7 runs mintly on a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of ram, Vista wasn't too bad but 7 takes the cake on this machine.

[Bren]

My work PC is a 2.4 P4 with a gig of ram. I think my standards are just high though haha...

Oh yeah I should note that, Windows 7 runs mintly on a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of ram, Vista wasn't too bad but 7 takes the cake on this machine.

So i guess it wont run on my old Compaq ..a 133 w/16MB Ram?

[Slyer]

Can I recommend DOS?

[Bren]

Can I recommend DOS?

Well, if I remember correctly W95 was just a GUI over Dos, so I believe it ran DOS anyway

[NighthawkNZ]

Computers suck anyway...

[jim.cox]

Can I recommend DOS?

or maybe CPM?

[dhunt]

I've been running Gentoo Linux for about 5 or so years now. Works brilliantly.

[TerminalAddict]

I've been running Gentoo Linux for about 5 or so years now. Works brilliantly.

really ?!?!? or is it that you have taken this long to compile everything?

[dhunt]

really ?!?!? or is it that you have taken this long to compile everything?
Haha - takes a while to compile stuff on my desktop now (Duron 1.2GHz) - OpenOffice use to take 12hours or so. Haven't updated the desktop for a while as don't really use it.

Laptop is fine (P4M 1.6Ghz). If you have multiple computers can use distributed cc to speed things up as well :)

[Max Preload]

Where's the Windows 2000 Professional option?


I want windows 2000 pro again!!!!! never crashed in 4yrs...only ran 23 processes in the back round...would make my current puter run like a jet...as vista runs 119 processes in the back round with internet explorer and MS outlook open!!

Can I interest you in a slipstreamed 2000 Pro SP4? :shifty: