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slofox
6th February 2009, 19:27
I used this stuff after reading on here that it was OK on leathers.
Not sure I would use it again. After doing the bizzo as per directions, I found that the trousers were much slipperier on the bike seat. First time on the seat I felt like I would slide off given half a chance...It is gradually improving but is still not as it was.
Anyone else experienced this? Any other comments?

Macontour
6th February 2009, 19:42
I have used it on my new leathers and it seemed to do some good. Maybe don't put it on the bum of your pants!!!

I left mine leathers in the sun thinking them being warm would help it soak in and I rubbed it in with a cloth.

Trudes
6th February 2009, 19:46
I use it on all my leather gear and find it good. I like sliding about....;)

Owl
6th February 2009, 19:54
Try some tanner's oil from a saddlery. Probably $10 per litre and leather seem's to soak it up if required. My new jacket sucked up 6 applications quick smart and pants struggled to soak up 1. Leather returns to original finish and doesn't stay shiney or slippery.

Trudes
6th February 2009, 20:02
I've been told to be careful of saddler's oils etc as they can rot the stitching.

Owl
6th February 2009, 20:43
I've been told to be careful of saddler's oils etc as they can rot the stitching.

More than likely rot through neglect! I've heard the same thing about animal fat's, neatsfoot oil, dubbin and just about every other product apart from beeswax, which I don't particularly like.

carbonhed
6th February 2009, 20:44
I used this stuff after reading on here that it was OK on leathers.
Not sure I would use it again. After doing the bizzo as per directions, I found that the trousers were much slipperier on the bike seat. First time on the seat I felt like I would slide off given half a chance...It is gradually improving but is still not as it was.
Anyone else experienced this? Any other comments?

Mate I did exactly the same thing. It's like riding an ice cube and everytime you brake... "Holy crushed testicles Batman". :Oops:

Clean the seat and the crotch of your leathers and you'll be fine... personally I won't be making the same mistake again.

slofox
6th February 2009, 20:47
"Holy crushed testicles Batman". :Oops:

Yes!!! My thoughts entirely.......:eek5:

Quasievil
8th February 2009, 08:01
Use a Beeswax twice a year pre summer and pre winter, this keeps the leather nice and supple and gives it a certain amount of weather resistance also, if you dont use this kinda product after a couple of years you will notice some cracking.
When your leathers are simply dirty (dead bugs etc) use luke warm water with a mild detergent and wipe with a damp rag until clean, once you done that then perhaps use Mothers, but dont drown your gear in it, use sparingly to give your gear a bit of a sheen again after the washing process.

hedgier1
8th February 2009, 08:43
How do you get rid of the cracking leathers?
I use mothers and have had no probs. Mind you I armour all my seat.
Sport bike fun

jrandom
8th February 2009, 08:45
Use a Beeswax twice a year pre summer and pre winter, this keeps the leather nice and supple and gives it a certain amount of weather resistance also, if you dont use this kinda product after a couple of years you will notice some cracking.

Any tips on making the arse of one's leathers a bit grippier? Low friction on the seat is good for shifting around during cornering, I guess, but that new one-piece felt like it was going to shoot my bum off the back of the bike every time I got on the gas the other weekend at Manfeild.

Might have to put some stomp grip on the tank.

Trudes
8th February 2009, 08:48
Any tips on making the arse of one's leathers a bit grippier? Low friction on the seat is good for shifting around during cornering, I guess, but that new one-piece felt like it was going to shoot off the back of the bike every time I got on the gas the other weekend at Manfeild.

I had the same problem with my new squidsuit, kept sliding about all over the show and ended up doing the "Too much throttle, you nickum poop" thing from slipping about at the wrong moment!:lol:

pritch
8th February 2009, 08:58
I tried the Nikwax aqueous wax product, available from Kathmandu, and found it good on jacket and jeans. It goes on looking like low fat milk, the water part evaporates and leaves a light waxy finish. You just give the item a buff with a clean cloth to finish.

Other people recommended Sno Seal. Actually recommended isn't strong enough, it was put so that Sno Seal was *the* answer. I found that to be too greasy on the jacket. I'd use it on boots, excluding Gore-Tex boots, but not on clothes.

The advice about Dubbin is correct, it will rot the stitching.

At one point I went to the saddlery shop and ordered a beeswax preparation.
I'm still waiting...

ArmourAll used to come with a warning that it was not to be used on control surfaces. On a bike the seat is a control surface.

As always, ymmv.

Quasievil
8th February 2009, 09:28
How do you get rid of the cracking leathers?
I use mothers and have had no probs. Mind you I armour all my seat.
Sport bike fun


Contact babyb from KB, she is the last hope for this, after that get new ones.....good luck

jrandom
8th February 2009, 09:35
I had the same problem with my new squidsuit, kept sliding about all over the show...

My old leather pants are good in that respect; they've been down the road and track and the arse is nicely roughed up so it grabs the seat.

I'll take a sander to the backside of my new one-piece if I have to, but it'd be nice to solve the problem in a less destructive way.

Quasi, any thoughts?

ducatilover
8th February 2009, 09:40
beeswax or "elephant wax" have both done the trick for me.

Quasievil
8th February 2009, 11:54
My old leather pants are good in that respect; they've been down the road and track and the arse is nicely roughed up so it grabs the seat.

I'll take a sander to the backside of my new one-piece if I have to, but it'd be nice to solve the problem in a less destructive way.

Quasi, any thoughts?

Not really other than to say they are new leathers I would expect the problem to go away fairly quickly, also there is to surfaces, whats your seat like?
I think some Stomp would be a good solution.

jrandom
8th February 2009, 12:51
Low friction on the seat is good for shifting around during cornering, I guess...

I fuckin knew as soon as I clicked 'post' that someone would rep me for that and say "you should be lifting your arse up when moving around".

Yes, whoever you are (I can't see who reps me - too many infraction points) that's how I normally ride. Hence my preference for my scuffed-up old pants that stick to the seat and keep my bum where I put it!

Mully
8th February 2009, 13:03
I'll take a sander to the backside of my new one-piece if I have to, but it'd be nice to solve the problem in a less destructive way.


We've got a finishing sander and some 80 grit if you and Stickchick want to borrow it?

Sorry, not going to volunteer for the job of sanding your arse while you stand in a leather suit. People would talk.

You forgot to show me the suit too.

Quasievil
8th February 2009, 13:17
J mate if you sand your Arse I will kick yours :angry2:

:calm:mods

jrandom
8th February 2009, 13:30
J mate if you sand your Arse I will kick yours :angry2:

Hahahaha! Last time I checked, I wasn't renting that suit.

If I want to take to the arse with a belt sander and paint a happy face on the scuff marks then I damn well will.

:done:

Sully60
8th February 2009, 13:32
keep my bum where I put it!

That's a good point, I wonder around in circles for ages trying to remember where I've put my arse!

Highlander
16th February 2009, 21:44
I have used Snoseal on my old jacket a couple of times a year (usually a week or so before a trip).
Quasi, you advise Beeswax, how does Snoseal compare?

Quasievil
16th February 2009, 22:03
I have used Snoseal on my old jacket a couple of times a year (usually a week or so before a trip).
Quasi, you advise Beeswax, how does Snoseal compare?

Im using Snoseal currently and its sweet as

T.W.R
16th February 2009, 22:05
you advise Beeswax, how does Snoseal compare?

Sno-seal is a Beeswax :yes:

I've just replaced my old Leather that I've had since 1988 and the only treatment it ever had was regular doses of Sno-seal and it hasn't been replaced due to being past it either:cool:

Quasievil
16th February 2009, 22:08
Snoseal is a Beeswax :yes:

oh I thought it was a Seal blubber thing, I brought it to keep the greenies in business and the fish population up.

Actually DAH to me of course it is

T.W.R
16th February 2009, 22:15
oh I thought it was a Seal blubber thing, I brought it to keep the greenies in business and the fish population up.



:lol: it's a nice texture of paste, something to do with the conditioning treatment using clubs :dodge:

Highlander
16th February 2009, 22:25
Sno-seal is a Beeswax :yes:

Thought I had read that on the tin, but don't have one within reach at the moment.




I've just replaced my old Leather that I've had since 1988 and the only treatment it ever had was regular doses of Sno-seal and it hasn't been replaced due to being past it either:cool:

My "old" jacket is '90 vintage and I only bought a new one because Quasi was all but giving it away on Trademe. :2thumbsup

babyB
16th February 2009, 22:34
Slofox ; if you used too much, or it didnt soak in properly then followed it with a good buffing.... yes your butt will become slippery. As Quasie said give ya butt a wash with warm water to calm the problem.


How do you get rid of the cracking leathers?... stop growing lad:bleh:

SARGE
16th February 2009, 22:49
just a good coat of Mink oil does the trick on all my leather...

Mooch
16th February 2009, 22:52
Im using Snoseal currently and its sweet as

works well,

Shaving foam with lanolin does a good job of cleaning and conditioning the leather , finish with snoseal.

Combo worked well on a recent 9000 km tour with included 3000 km of off road. Very low wear rate considering heat / cold and dust.

laserracer
17th February 2009, 06:04
Hi all... be very careful of leather conditioners as alot of them contain silicone to make them shine and silicone will give you slippy arse BIG TIME the best conditioners.. are the old fashioned ones beeswax , tanners oil, the ones sold at shoe repair places. Usually boils down to the ones that are harder to apply and dont shine as much are the better ones, of course my experiences have all been with leather car seats as ive been a car valet now for 11 years but im pretty sure its all the same

ajturbo
17th February 2009, 06:30
like the big Q says... if in ANY doubt ask BabyB....

vifferman
17th February 2009, 07:03
I tried the Nikwax aqueous wax product, available from Kathmandu, and found it good on jacket and jeans. It goes on looking like low fat milk, the water part evaporates and leaves a light waxy finish. You just give the item a buff with a clean cloth to finish.

Other people recommended Sno Seal. Actually recommended isn't strong enough, it was put so that Sno Seal was *the* answer. I found that to be too greasy on the jacket.
Ooh! Ooh!! Ask me! I know the answer to this one.
I think I've used just about every product known to Man. Well... at least 7 or 8. SnoSeal is OK for boots, but sucks for other bike gear. NikWax Leather Restorer is the schnizzzle wid da dizzzzzle - goes on REALLY easily, gives the leather a slightly waxy feeel, and isn't slippery. :niceone:

LBD
9th March 2009, 02:37
In the sun and snow seal works for me...

I just searched leather conditioning and found many threads and many posts on the subject. May be some one who is a little more KB site savey, could set up a pole?

Snow seal, Nikwax,Dubbin, Saddler oil, mothers, bees wax or some other secret formula....
1 part bees wax, 1 part baby oil (perfumed for the lady riders), 1/2 part beef tallow, 1 part Mobil shc 46M, 1/2 part dielectric silicon grease. Place in large pot over low open fire in a clearing in the wood on a blue moon night. Simmer from dusk till dawn stirring regularly. Add salt, pepper and chicken stock to taste.......am I dribbling? :doh::doh: