Teaching your kids to pass while racing?

[mxmum]

pass when racing. Our son has just turned 6 and is doing well, but sometimes he does get stuck behind someone for a few laps. how can you teach them how to pass any tips for this at all or tips for things to practise with this. Thanks

[B0000M]

the trick to it basicly is to ride alternative lines, if your opposition is coming into corners wide and exiting narrow, come in narrow and exit wide.

you will never pass anyone by following them!

also late braking is very important

hard smooth acceleration as well

so as a scenarao, come in to a corner, your opposition is coming in at normal pace, entering the corner from a inside line entry point, come into the corner, faster, brake harder with plenty of front brake, then cut into an inside line for exiting the corner, at this time you will be back on the gas before your opponant and acceletating out of the corner while he/she is still riding around it.

[soundbeltfarm]

i know that my boy was similar but he just got more confident from riding with other people all the time.
plus he has developed a real competitive streak.
i have spoken to a couple of parents that are going through the same thing and they say their child looks at the bike in front instead of a place to pass.
i agree with above post of lookin for a different line , but i think he may not be comfortable yet to makes passes sometimes so i would not try and push them to do it.
i read or heard a good piece once and it was something like 90% of riders use 10% of the track where the top 10% use 90% of the track.

[LittleJohn]

What kind of tracks/racing are you talking about, whereabouts?
Our boy has just learnt how to do it over the past few months of racing but still has alot to learn.
Alot of it is time & patience until they build the confidence to do it. After each race we would just tell our boy what he could have done better & how he could have tried it.
He's a member of Nth Harbour Mini Motocross

[oldguy]

pass when racing. Our son has just turned 6 and is doing well, but sometimes he does get stuck behind someone for a few laps. how can you teach them how to pass any tips for this at all or tips for things to practise with this. Thanksat that age he will be a little cautious dont worry to much the more riding he does the more confident he will be come. Walk the track with him, have a look at the track talk to him about all the likely spots for passing are, and where he should be or try and be on the track, and if he has trouble trying to get passed another ride, tell him to try and stay on his tail tell he gets to the spot where he can make the pass.

Don't worry too much it will come with time. just be happy he's riding:msn-wink:

[mxmum]

at the back wheel because if he is coming up and other kids are passing he will go as well even on the otherside. We are at North Harbour as well. Was a good day today. Thanks for all the posts has given us a few ideas to try.

[telliman]

the trick to it basicly is to ride alternative lines, if your opposition is coming into corners wide and exiting narrow, come in narrow and exit wide.

you will never pass anyone by following them!

also late braking is very important

hard smooth acceleration as well

so as a scenarao, come in to a corner, your opposition is coming in at normal pace, entering the corner from a inside line entry point, come into the corner, faster, brake harder with plenty of front brake, then cut into an inside line for exiting the corner, at this time you will be back on the gas before your opponant and acceletating out of the corner while he/she is still riding around it.

haha,he;s only 6yrs old man,teach him to ride it like he stole it!!!

[mxmum]

When he is not racing he does ride like he stole it but we get there he goes all sensible and polite!!! So frustrating to watch! He happy thou hope he gets a competitive urgh sometime soon.

[scott411]

as said above the biggest thing is to teach him not to follow, you have to look to where the other rider is not,

[Ktmboy]

As Booom said, At that age you just have to keep telling them to ride inside- outside lines or vice versa to what the person in front is doing.

After telling them for the hundreth time just threaten then with playstation removal for 2.5 days(long time in a 6 yr olds life).

They soon learn.

[FROSTY]

Dunno if this is a good thing or not for a 6 year old but ya might wanna practice that very situation with him. Get him passing you and then you pass him.lots n lots of times.AGAIN dunno if itll work or even a good idea for a 6 year old -biggest fear is itll scare him off.

[Ktmboy]

Dunno if this is a good thing or not for a 6 year old but ya might wanna practice that very situation with him. Get him passing you and then you pass him.lots n lots of times.AGAIN dunno if itll work or even a good idea for a 6 year old -biggest fear is itll scare him off.

Thats exactly what I used to do Frosty. Sit down in the kids sandpit and make a corner and play bike passing with them. Then when you get to the track we walked it and I showed him likely lines of the others and lines he might take.

Always had a debrief after to point out the errors. It works, and the same in the bush as I'd teach him to look ahead for legal short cuts.

[Rupe]

It works, and the same in the bush as I'd teach him to look ahead for legal short cuts.

Does that explain your good result at the woodhill gncc????


Sounds a bit like some of you are pushing the wee fellas a little, shouldn't they be there to enjoy themselves. Mind you if cheese's boy is quicker than mine I might change my tune. Does fuel go stale in a pw50????

[barty5]

Does fuel go stale in a pw50????[/QUOTE]

Mine didnt
cheers for helpin out today.

[civil]

The trick is to get someone else (not the parent) to tell them how to do it.

[B0000M]

The trick is to get someone else (not the parent) to tell them how to do it.

yeah thats a definate one..

if they have a favourite local rider in the big boys class, get him to have a chat to them

[Starky307]

It's like watching young kids play soccer, they all just follow the ball around the field.

The big thing is to teach them to look for an alternate line to take on the track. More than likely it will be in a corner as that is the easiest place to make up time.
As mentioned before walk the track and find one corner you feel there is plenty of room to have an alternate line to pass with.
Talk about that corner with your child and walk through the two different paths he can take.
When they are practicing get them to ride each of those lines you have walked and talked about together so they become comfortable with them. Try getting them to ride one line this lap and then the next line next lap. You may need to stand there and point to a point on the track to help trigger in their mind to try somewhere different.

Try and get them to think about using which ever line is "empty" when they get to that corner on the track.
Once it starts to happen they will become aware of what is happening and it will add to the joy of what is going on.

This is how my father helped me to learn about passing and multiple line choices.

Just don't ruin it by becoming that parent that stands there and yells at their child.

[mxmum]

just nice to try to help them work it out.