How and why

[fi5hy]

This is my rear tyre from Roys Hill, Out of the many experts out there can anyone tell me WHY this is happening and a possible fix for my 11hp tyre shredding monster

Thanks Fishie

[Mr Merde]

Check your tyre pressure.

[Str8 Jacket]

Check your tyre pressure.

Could be or maybe your suspension set up, or lack of it?.... Does it even make a difference on such a small bike??

Or it was just plain hot. 47 degrees apparently that day!

[bungbung]

Don't race on hot days

[fi5hy]

Check your tyre pressure.

Been there done that but thanks

[fi5hy]

Could be or maybe your suspension set up, or lack of it?.... Does it even make a difference on such a small bike??

Or it was just plain hot. 47 degrees apparently that day!

Suspension!! wash your mouth out young lady

[Str8 Jacket]

Suspension!! wash your mouth out young lady

:shake:
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[Ivan]

that is a conti isnt it?

Conti have a wierd tire pressure set up.

What pressures are you running


My Conti Race Attack Rear i run 24PSI and 28 front.

If Pressures are fine then its probably a suspension issue best bet is contact someone liek Robert Taylor he would be able to tell you what is going on.

But maybe more preload on the suspension?

[R6_kid]

Jenny Craigs or Weight Watchers?

[fi5hy]

Don't race on hot days

Its been doing it for a while not just on hot days

[Str8 Jacket]

If Pressures are fine then its probably a suspension issue best bet is contact someone liek Robert Taylor he would be able to tell you what is going on.

But maybe more preload on the suspension?

Dont be a dick Ivan :p Did you get a new job or summat?! :confused:


Jenny Craigs or Weight Watchers?

YEah Fishie, you fat bastard!

[fi5hy]

that is a conti isnt it?

Conti have a wierd tire pressure set up.

What pressures are you running


My Conti Race Attack Rear i run 24PSI and 28 front.

If Pressures are fine then its probably a suspension issue best bet is contact someone liek Robert Taylor he would be able to tell you what is going on.

But maybe more preload on the suspension


Had 22 psi in it on instruction from Andrew L

As for Robert T mate its a Bucket ( the cost of a shock would be 8 X the price of the whole bike)

[fi5hy]

Jenny Craigs or Weight Watchers?

Is 75 KG Fat??????????????????????????????????????????????? for a six foot man of steel

[Ivan]

not buy a shock from him.

Just get himt o tell you what he thinks is wrong he knows more than what i knwo and is really helpful.

And what Andrew Says is right hes the man with these tires.

[Buckets4Me]

looks like the tire presure is to low to me
we where running 26 psi on the tt900's

then a tire presure gauge whent faulty and was reading double
the tires chewed up like that but all over
I'm guessing there was some riding around after but not at race speeds ????

try going up in pressure and see what happens
22 psi seems a bit low for a road tire
but better for 125 gp slicks

[Ivan]

looks like the tire presure is to low to me
we where running 26 psi on the tt900's

then a tire presure gauge whent faulty and was reading double
the tires chewed up like that but all over
I'm guessing there was some riding around after but not at race speeds ????

try going up in pressure and see what happens
22 psi seems a bit low for a road tire
but better for 125 gp slicks

yeah but conti run a completly differnt carcass to the tt900 they are designed to run really low pressures.

Is that a 120/70/17? off a front tire?

and for everyone thinking I ment buy a rear shock I ment completly different

What I ment was Robert Taylor has alot of knowlege on setups and would be able to see the pic and lead you in the right direction of what needs doing, NOT BUYING A SHOCK but saying maybe oh add more pressure here or less there or more preload etc.

Thats possibly the only way to fix the problem properly is get an expert who knows what they are doing to give you advice he is a real approachable guy

[Trudes]

Ummmm "Too much throttle, you nickum poop" :dodge: Slow down you loonie!!

[R6_kid]

lol @ trudes!

im 110kg and my bike has far less sufficient suspension, tyres and frame geometry to yours. My tyres are balling up on the edges (TT900's) but in a much more predictable way - only on the trailing edge of the tread.

Try something like +4psi and then do a 6 or 7 laps, take a look at the tyre, do the same again but -4psi on the original. You'll soon know which way you need to go.

Do you guys run a practice day before racing?

[Sully60]

This is my rear tyre from Roys Hill, Out of the many experts out there can anyone tell me WHY this is happening and a possible fix for my 11hp tyre shredding monster

Thanks Fishie

Is the tyre actually working Fi5hy? It would apear to be from your vids. If so what's your problem?:weird:

Edit: like Sketchy said that tyre has been cold torn in another life, once they've started it can't be stopped.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Once the tyre starts 'tearing' which is what it was already doing before you got it, it wont stop.

Also I believe that tyre was one of the first Conti Race Attacks which seemed to struggle with tearing but they have got them well sorted now.

Chuck that other tyre you've got on and see if it's better, or otherwise after this weekend I should have a new generation Conti Race Attack you can use. The new ones are fantastic!

As for suspension on a bucket, as long as there is some sort of damping activities happen within the shock, then it's 'sweet bro'

[richban]

Is the tyre actually working Fi5hy? It would apear to be from your vids. If so what's your problem?:weird:


I agree with Sully. From what I have seen you are riding the wheels of that thing and kicking ass. Something has to where out. I have a rear dunlop you could try if you want.

[fi5hy]

Is the tyre actually working Fi5hy? It would apear to be from your vids. If so what's your problem?:weird:

Edit: like Sketchy said that tyre has been cold torn in another life, once they've started it can't be stopped.


To True mate I've got another slick on the back now for the march round so wait and see what this ones going to do. When are you coming back mate.??????????

[fi5hy]

Once the tyre starts 'tearing' which is what it was already doing before you got it, it wont stop.

Also I believe that tyre was one of the first Conti Race Attacks which seemed to struggle with tearing but they have got them well sorted now.

Chuck that other tyre you've got on and see if it's better, or otherwise after this weekend I should have a new generation Conti Race Attack you can use. The new ones are fantastic!

As for suspension on a bucket, as long as there is some sort of damping activities happen within the shock, then it's 'sweet bro'

Liking that :girlfight:

[fi5hy]

I agree with Sully. From what I have seen you are riding the wheels of that thing and kicking ass. Something has to where out. I have a rear dunlop you could try if you want.

Bloody Hell a trye per round anyone would think I'm getting sponsored or something?? Thanks mate but I'll try the next one on the pile.

[Sully60]

When are you coming back mate.??????????

Not to far from now, I should be fully race fit for the start of March, hopefully:rolleyes:

[SHELRACING]

This is my rear tyre from Roys Hill, Out of the many experts out there can anyone tell me WHY this is happening and a possible fix for my 11hp tyre shredding monster

Thanks Fishie

1. Tyre pressures. Increase Your tyre pressres by 2-3 PSI. Optimally You should run your tyre pressures as low as you can without the bike moving around. I'm 100kg and only run 20PSI in my Dunlops.

2. Suspension. Hold the bike upright. put both hands on the top of the tank at the back near the seat and push down. The front and rear of the bike should move together, about the same travel Start by setting about 65mm fork travel and go from there

3. Do you Weigh more than the bike ?

[wbks]

Whats this "cold tearing" thing you guys talk about?

[MSTRS]

Whats this "cold tearing" thing you guys talk about?

A tyre is somewhat fibrous in it's internal construction. If you stress the tyre before it heats up to optimum working temperature, the fibres begin to separate. This is obviously non-reversable, and because the process has begun and weakened the bonds in the fibres, it continues regardless of more careful subsequent treatment.

[wbks]

So if you were to go out on a trackday and accellerate a little too hard out of a corner on cold tires (probably not a good idea anyway, I know) it's possible to ruin them?

[MSTRS]

So if you were to go out on a trackday and accellerate a little too hard out of a corner on cold tires (probably not a good idea anyway, I know) it's possible to ruin them?

Yes. Along with the fairings, barends, pegs and footlevers...

[wbks]

Don't worry, I leave my hard out squidding untill the bikes warm...

[nudemetalz]

I was watching your machine, Fishy, when you and Bayden were tearing around at the end of the Roys Hill day.
Your machine was moving around quite a bit in the rear end while you were cranked over, especially at the fast left hander just past the entry to the pits, ie like a lack of rebound damping.

Just my 2c worth.

[saxet]

To be honest Fishy I've never seen another tyre on your bike do that so I'd suspect it's the tyre itself.You were moving bout alot up Roys Hill when most of us were havin less trouble .I take it you didn't change anything else when you changed the tyre? if not it could be the tyre is just NOT of their normal standard.

[fi5hy]

1.
3. Do you Weigh more than the bike ?

The Bikes 102 I'm 75

[fi5hy]

[QUOTE=Your machine was moving around quite a bit in the rear end while you were cranked over, especially at the fast left hander just past the entry to the pits, ie like a lack of rebound damping.

Just my 2c worth.[/QUOTE]

Mate the bike was scary though there, There's a bump on the entry that upsets the bike and it gets worse when your off the throttle so the only way was to keep it pinned (went well) off the gas (Fuck). As for rebound it doesn't have any.

[fi5hy]

To be honest Fishy I've never seen another tyre on your bike do that so I'd suspect it's the tyre itself.You were moving bout alot up Roys Hill when most of us were havin less trouble .I take it you didn't change anything else when you changed the tyre? if not it could be the tyre is just of their normal standard.

Your right mate but the Contis are Fuckin good tyres but maybe not this particular one I've put a Second hand Pirelli slick on so it will be interesting to see if this helps.


Mate you were riding wicked up there.

[Sully60]

So if you were to go out on a trackday and accellerate a little too hard out of a corner on cold tires (probably not a good idea anyway, I know) it's possible to ruin them?


Yes.

In simple terms MSTRS is correct, however in practical terms this is very unlikely to happen with a bucket.

You actually have to ride reasonbly hard to get heat into a softer compound (race) tyres. It can be quite a balancing act at first, acceleration and braking are the the best ways to generate this heat. Doing this with the bike relatively upright is the safest way . It's not a good idea to try an ask for too much side grip untill you've turned a couple of laps and taken the opportunity to clean the tread (that's the reason you see racers weaving on the start finish straight at the end of the warm up lap, most of the heat is generated when they speed up and slow down).

You're highly unlikely to initiate cold tear in a tyre on a bucket. Being relatively light and slow they simply don't generate the forces that anything bigger, faster and heavier can so the tyres get a much easier time of it. In my ten years of racing I've never seen a bucket cold tear a tyre and the vast majority of that racing was done in the winter.

Please be aware that this tyre was probably used on a 600SP bike (I'm assuming JayRacer37 had something to do with that?) and it actually showed signs of tear before Fi5hy started using it. I was going to point that out Fi5hy but you don't need any help from me!:bleh:

BTW apart from the tear how does the 120 work on the four inch rim Fi5hy?

[nudemetalz]

Mate the bike was scary though there, There's a bump on the entry that upsets the bike and it gets worse when your off the throttle so the only way was to keep it pinned (went well) off the gas (Fuck). As for rebound it doesn't have any.

I know the bump you mean, but Lady P was fairly settled through there (with the power on admittedly).

[fi5hy]

In
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BTW apart from the tear how does the 120 work on the four inch rim Fi5hy?

Mate she seems to corner ok but out of the last two tyres i haven't had any side grip so at the mo I'm not sure if the 17 is doing what it should. Might even try a back to back with the 18 at the next meet

[bungbung]

but out of the last two tyres i haven't had any side grip


Too much throttle, Nincompoop!

[fi5hy]

Too much throttle, Nincompoop!

Throttle makes you go FASTER:clap:

[NSR143]

Too hard rear suspension is my guess.. certainly dont look hot/juicy

[saxet]

Your right mate but the Contis are Fuckin good tyres but maybe not this particular one


Mate you were riding wicked up there.


Cheers for the praise. It took me a while to figure the track out. I should proof read my posts before I submit them .:doh:Meant to say not of their usual standard as I know people seriously rate those tyres.

[Mr Merde]

Just a thought.

What size is the tyre?

What bike is is running on?

What is the gap in the swinging arm for the tyre to run in?

How close to the swinging arm does the tyre fit?

If it is really close then surely when you are riding the bike then the tyre may be expanding outwards and rubbing on the swinging arm.

As I said

Just a thought

[Str8 Jacket]

Ever thought of looking at your suspension Fishy? :chase:

[saxet]

Ever thought of looking at your suspension Fishy? :chase:




:blank:Don't confuse him too much.

[Sully60]

:blank:Don't confuse him too much.

Nah nah it must be suspension, all that spouting about cold tear is all shit. You'll need to fix that soon Fi5hy, I could take a look at it for ya.:shifty:


Now where's my hacksaw?

[Str8 Jacket]

Nah nah it must be suspension, all that spouting about cold tear is all shit. You'll need to fix that soon Fi5hy, I could take a look at it for ya.:shifty:


Now where's my hacksaw?

Yep, it must be the suspension! Dont worry mate, for a small fee I can tell you about my mate who know's someone...

[fi5hy]

Ever thought of looking at your suspension Fishy? :chase:

I look at it all the time but it doesn't mean I'm going to touch it

[fi5hy]

Well in the end I had to look and guess what I found?? Rear linkage rooted!!!!!!!! bearing in the shock end gone west for the summer.

Never mind down to the local bike shop for a look thought the spares bin and guess what their was one there with shock in toe as well. So the hole unit (linkage and shock) bolted on at the right price (Free) with new rear wheel bearings($60) added in as well.

Should have no more problems I hope.:woohoo:

[Buckets4Me]

Nah nah it must be suspension, all that spouting about cold tear is all shit. You'll need to fix that soon Fi5hy, I could take a look at it for ya.:shifty:


Now where's my hacksaw?

:jerry::doh:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Well in the end I had to look and guess what I found?? Rear linkage rooted!!!!!!!! bearing in the shock end gone west for the summer.

Never mind down to the local bike shop for a look thought the spares bin and guess what their was one there with shock in toe as well. So the hole unit (linkage and shock) bolted on at the right price (Free) with new rear wheel bearings($60) added in as well.

Should have no more problems I hope.:woohoo:

I want your old shock, mines f**ked

[F5 Dave]

I look at it all the time but it doesn't mean I'm going to touch it

Str8 for mechanical Forum Guru:scooter:

[WarrenW]

That appears to be not enuf rebound damping. Will be a sod to get rid of on a bucket with a shite shock with bugger all adjustments. Up the tire pressure too will help.

[fi5hy]

I want your old shock, mines f**ked

sweet can do

[Masterchop]

sweet can do

I want your motor,Mines F##ked.

[fi5hy]

I want your motor,Mines F##ked.

f**K OFF GET YOUR OWN

[fi5hy]

OK then round two


New Tyre Pirelli SC1 Slick with 30 PSI new shock and linkage new wheel bearings with the same results. So who's got the magic wand then???

[saxet]

There's nothing for it..you'll have to slow down! SKetchy will agree.

Seriously I'm only running 22psi and I'm not sliding and wear is gooood!

[saxet]

Hey just a passin thought.. you were talkin bout chatter etc. could the problem be your front end setup causin chatter at the rear?

[Str8 Jacket]

causin chatter at the rear?

I heard that was his problem too.... I reckon he should check his suspension.

[fi5hy]

Hey just a passin thought.. you were talkin bout chatter etc. could the problem be your front end setup causin chatter at the rear?

No the front was ok at the start to about mid race then the back tyre was balling up so much that in the end it felt like cornering with a knobbly. The vibes though the bike on full lean was incredible. know I now what the motogp boys are on about:scooter:

[saxet]

Ok what about tyre balancing? It still could be compression or rebound damping not at the optimum causing an oscillation when cornering or due to small slides setting up the vibes.

[fi5hy]

balancing yes could check that as for rebound and damping it hasn't got ether

[saxet]

I was thinking maybe you have an issue with the front damping that could be showing up at the rear wheel. Never happend to me but I've read about it.

[fi5hy]

good point

[Sully60]

I think the tyre has to do more work, this only started happening with the race attacks and slicks on the 17's right?
Crank up that rear preload brother!

Or just slow down a little!:shifty:

[F5 Dave]

odd thing is preload is apparently low & there is like no static sag. I thought it was just because the preload was too high or something is siezed, but new bearings & another shock. It is quite odd. Have you checked to see if it is bottoming out when cranked down? Seems like heaps of room but. . .

Still seems odd that there is no sag whatsoever. even my 50 can be adjusted to have some static sag & the back end is really light. The 17" tyres keep doing it, so why? Is the change the cause for some reason or just a red herring & you haven't had as sticky tires. nah 3 diff tires. If that rim is severely out of balance or round you should be able to see it pretty quickly.

[TZ350]

For what its worth:-

The very fast guys at Mt Wellington run 18 psi F & R in their slicks. Any more and they don't get up to a good working temperature.

There is a temperature where slicks work best, about 55 degrees C and when they are working well they feel a little sticky to the touch (from the oils in the rubber which makes the rubber complient). If they are over inflated or cold they can get the shreaded look but arent so sticky to the touch.

Fi5hy corners as hard as an RS but his all up weight bike+rider is much more, overloading cold tyres? and just ripping the rubber could that be possible?.

Just another idea for the jigsaw.

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[richban]

For what its worth:-

The very fast guys at Mt Wellington run 18 psi F & R in their slicks. Any more and they don't get up to a good working temperature.

There is a temperature where slicks work best, about 55 degrees C and when they are working well they feel a little sticky to the touch (from the oils in the rubber which makes the rubber complient). If they are over inflated or cold they can get the shreaded look but arent so sticky to the touch.

Fi5hy corners as hard as an RS but his all up weight bike+rider is much more, overloading cold tyres? and just ripping the rubber could that be possible?.

Just another idea for the jigsaw.

.


Anyone got access to some tyre warmers that might help figure it out.

[fi5hy]

odd thing is preload is apparently low & there is like no static sag. I thought it was just because the preload was too high or something is siezed, but new bearings & another shock. It is quite odd. Have you checked to see if it is bottoming out when cranked down? Seems like heaps of room but. . .

.

Checked that I had a tie down on it and wound it right down all ok there

[fi5hy]

I think the tyre has to do more work, this only started happening with the race attacks and slicks on the 17's right?
Crank up that rear preload brother!

Or just slow down a little!:shifty:

Cranked up the preload to 5

[fi5hy]

For what its worth:-

The very fast guys at Mt Wellington run 18 psi F & R in their slicks. Any more and they don't get up to a good working temperature.

There is a temperature where slicks work best, about 55 degrees C and when they are working well they feel a little sticky to the touch (from the oils in the rubber which makes the rubber complient). If they are over inflated or cold they can get the shreaded look but arent so sticky to the touch.

Fi5hy corners as hard as an RS but his all up weight bike+rider is much more, overloading cold tyres? and just ripping the rubber could that be possible?.

Just another idea for the jigsaw.

.

Someone Else said the same thing about 15 to 18 psi I have one more 120/17 left to try. I might try it at that psi and see. I have got someone trying to track down a shock with a bit more adjustment.

Thanks for the input

[TZ350]

Kiatoke is mostly R Hand corners. If you have a tyre thats cooked on one side, (I know its not the done thing) but for the sake of economy could you turn it around and experiment with whats left of the good side.

Start at say 22psi cold do a few laps, feel the tyre, lower the (now hot) pressure a psi or two, no need to measure it, just let out a puff. Do a few more laps, feel the tyre Etc. Etc. down and down slowly.

The tyre should go from cold dry and torn to warm, sticky and working well, and if you over do it, to melted and squirmy on the track as you lower the pressure. When it feels good, warm and sticky, measure the hot pressure, let the bike cool of, measure the cold pressure and there you have it.

Team ESE made a mission of doing it this way at Mt Wellington one day, and found 15 psi cold was generally to low for us and 18psi cold is about right for me. Others have slightly different preferences, a psi or so cold makes a big difference. Later we found some days the weather was to cold and nothing worked.

Kaitoke being a longer faster track I started at 20psi cold but the tyres never got the warm sticky feel that I was used too, I never got them into the zone all day, and they never got the Mt Wellington look, tricky things tyres and suspension.

Good Luck.

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[fi5hy]

will try that I have one trye left so will give that a go I also have two shocks to try one from a zx9 and the other from a nc30

Attached are the latest to die in the hands of the LONCIN in one day

New Saturday Bin Sunday


Rear Front Rear

[Trudes]

Fishy you beast!!:eek5:

[fi5hy]

you wait to you get me in bed ROAR he heheheheheehehhehehehehehehe:girlfight:

[Buckets4Me]

will try that I have one trye left so will give that a go I also have two shocks to try one from a zx9 and the other from a nc30

Attached are the latest to die in the hands of the LONCIN in one day

New Saturday Bin Sunday


Rear Front Rear

just a question have you tried a dunlop slick ????

it's just that I'm under the impretion that they heat up quicker than Brigstones
therefore better for the slower tracks that we race on <200 k/h rs125 honda

[Sully60]

you wait to you get me in bed ROAR he heheheheheehehhehehehehehehe:girlfight:

SSStop it!:buggerd:
What do you wear to bed Fi5hy?:blip:

[fi5hy]

just a question have you tried a dunlop ????

Not yet one x Conti race attack one x Pirelli SC1 and a new Mich next ones a Metzeler racteck

[fi5hy]

SSStop it!:buggerd:
What do you wear to bed Fi5hy?:blip:

my wife sometimes:hug:

[Sully60]

my wife sometimes:hug:

Now that would be a skimpy outfit!

[fi5hy]

This may have something to do with it?? What do you think



Left Rear swingarm

[Pumba]

Im no expert but I dont think that is ment to be doing that:eek5:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Jebus!! You're bloody lucky that part of the swingarm didn't just fall off on you! and yes I think it may be part of the issue, but I think you should fix that regardless!

[koba]

:eek5: That might have some negative impact on the handling characteristics of the bike!

[Skunk]

This may have something to do with it?? What do you think
I think you're making excuses now. It's definitely the Long-chin engine and aggressive rider that's doing it. That swingarm is nothing to worry about.

[fi5hy]

Jebus!! You're bloody lucky that part of the swingarm didn't just fall off on you! and yes I think it may be part of the issue, but I think you should fix that regardless!

Ya think??


I can snap it with my hand but its easier to weld when hanging on to something

[F5 Dave]

Yeueew! That's bad. But that is a symptom of the dreadful vibration I would have thought. Possibly from the tyre chattering.
Possibly from that Diesel stationary pump of an engine.

So that is on the cush drive side. What is the cush drive like, pretty sloppy? Solid?

More so I see a tailpiece of the 50 in the background. Need to have that up & running for when I get back in action (whenever that is). Seals are easy to replace, I have a small window of time I could help if uncertain of split.

[Sully60]

Possibly from that Diesel stationary pump of an engine.




:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[nudemetalz]

Cheeky prick isn't he !!!!! :girlfight:

[saxet]

This may have something to do with it?? What do you think



Left Rear swingarm

Naahhh thats just fiiine! Don't worry bout it.:crazy:

[avgas]

Very slowly scrub it in, looks like rapid changes in temperature.
Very heavy dumping and power out of corners i'd say.
Have you tried doing a few big slow weaving before putting the pace on?

[Sully60]

V
Very heavy dumping and power out of corners i'd say.


:rofl:This thread gets funnier with every post!

[F5 Dave]

. . .
Have you tried doing a few big slow weaving before putting the pace on?
No, he does that during the race. - And yer shitting us right?

[nudemetalz]

It's a Loncin motor. Of course you're going to use the word POWER in the sentence.


:rofl:This thread gets funnier with every post!

[fi5hy]

Yeueew!
So that is on the cush drive side. What is the cush drive like, pretty sloppy? Solid?

Seals are easy to replace, I have a small window of time I could help if uncertain of split.

Cush drive fine sold as



As for the seals all I need is the flywheel puller to do the job. Seals have been ordered just waiting for the call from Fat Mac

[fi5hy]

Very slowly scrub it in, looks like rapid changes in temperature.
Very heavy dumping and power out of corners i'd say.
Have you tried doing a few big slow weaving before putting the pace on?

No I ride around at the back of the field for a few laps first to get the trye to the point of squealing no more :crybaby: then I feed it the LONCIN FAT :2thumbsup

[Str8 Jacket]

Oh my! It's getting a bit bitchy in here isn't it... :chase:

[F5 Dave]

that's cause he's a bitch;)

running an RM flywheel aren't you, give us a yell if you want to borrow one, should still have cell number (no pc at home, . . . which reminds me I should go there),

[fi5hy]

that's cause he's a bitch;)

running an RM flywheel aren't you, give us a yell if you want to borrow one, should still have cell number (no pc at home, . . . which reminds me I should go there),

RG I think

[F5 Dave]

I def have one of those. They are universal to 90% of that era Jap 2 strokes.

over & out, time for beer & burgers.

[Str8 Jacket]

We have an RG puller Fish, were heading to Upper Hutt tomorrow morn...

SNAP Dave!

[fi5hy]

We have an RG puller Fish, were heading to Upper Hutt tomorrow morn...

SNAP Dave!

drop it in

[Trudes]

Buy a 2 stroke :Pokey:
go on, you know you want one.....


























And get a perm.

[koba]

drop it in

Sweet, will do.
As early as we can but prob about 12.


And get a perm.

Real men have Perms!

[Trudes]

Real men have Perms!

I thought real men had mullets???;)

[fi5hy]

this thread is getting bitchy isn't it

[Str8 Jacket]

this thread is getting bitchy isn't it

I would hate to say *I told you so*...

[quallman1234]

The RG150 flywheeler puller size, aint that usually sized one. Its a fucked up version.
Probabaly too big. Unless the flywheel is off an RG150.

Otherwise, skunk has that "standard 90's jap flywheel puller", what seems to work on anything bar a RG150. (Too small).

[Skunk]

The RG150 flywheeler puller size, aint that usually sized one. Its a fucked up version.
Probabaly too big. Unless the flywheel is off an RG150.

Otherwise, skunk has that "standard 90's jap flywheel puller", what seems to work on anything bar a RG150. (Too small).
Yep, I do. Wouldn't let it anywhere near a 'diesel pump' though...

[Sully60]

Yep, I do. Wouldn't let it anywhere near a 'diesel pump' though...

I don't really think you could call an RG 50 a 'diesel pump':rolleyes:

[Skunk]

I don't really think you could call an RG 50 a 'diesel pump':rolleyes:
I can. And I did. :bleh:

[fi5hy]

I can. And I did. :bleh:

:shake:It is a 2 stoke may as well just burn the thing

[Str8 Jacket]

:shake:It is a 2 stoke may as well just burn the thing

We'll bring matches rather than a puller then?

[fi5hy]

We'll bring matches rather than a puller then?

You are still bringing Malcolm aren't you? just kidding

[Skunk]

Confused - thought it was the Long-chin... Doh!

Got it done yet?

[koba]

My pulling technique was better suited to somthing much larger so Fish was left dissappointed.:lol:

[Number One]

Cranked up the preload to 5
So no chance of you slowing down then? ;)

[fi5hy]

I Have the fix almost done I have a choice of three rear shocks one standard one NC30 and one ZXR400 the NC30 raisers the ride height by 20mm and the ZXR 400 by 43mm so not to sure which one to fit. Also had to mod the swing arm to fit the bigger shocks and of course weld up the broken bits. In the end the swing arm was broken in six placers!. I have also found a second standard swing arm to try just in case.





Pic 1
Standard left NC30 middle ZXR400 right

Pic two mod swing arm and standard

pic three standard swing arm

pic four the mod

[koba]

Shit, does it even need flash shocks now it has a working swingarm?
Only one real way to find out which works the best...

[bungbung]

In the end the swing arm was broken in six placers!.

fi5hy is a beast

[fi5hy]

Well then had my first run today with the new set up and the tyre looks sweet after 40 laps of Kaitoke I started the day with 18psi in the rear and after 10 laps the psi went up to 22. No cold tearing!!!! Played alot with the sag and the rebound shock to feeling good and for the first time this year I haven't eaten a tyre.

[saxet]

Do your sprockets line up now?

[fi5hy]

Hell no. Course they do