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DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 16:06
at mt wellington on the weekend john gave me a go on his cb125t and im hooked.....this week im trading in my minimoto for one of these! :woohoo: its one of the fastest pit bikes in the countries hopefully should be able to keep up with you bicket guys......:sweatdrop...ill needto ride it right first though.......

wat you think? good bike to race with??

Sketchy_Racer
9th February 2009, 18:08
That's not a bucket.

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:09
its a pitt bike that can be raced with buckets......

Sketchy_Racer
9th February 2009, 18:12
So you found you a pit bike, not a bucket :p

wbks
9th February 2009, 18:16
Lol eaaaasy sketchy... You found some road tires to chuck on it, dellorto? And are you partially blind or just a snob, sketchy racer?
Edit, had a look at the picture and the tires look pretty flash ow... I like the idea of a motard style bucket. Don't see why it has to look like all the others...

all4A50s
9th February 2009, 18:19
its a pitt bike that can be raced with buckets......

So when are you going to bucketise it by changing the front & rear ends and ad a fairing from some rice burner?

Sketchy_Racer
9th February 2009, 18:20
Lol eaaaasy sketchy... You found some road tires to chuck on it, dellorto? And are you partially blind or just a snob, sketchy racer?

Haha, Nah I just like giving people stick... :wari:

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:21
So when are you going to bucketise it by changing the front & rear ends and ad a fairing from some rice burner?

i think ill just keep it how it is thanks...lol should be a good race bike.....ive tryed both a motard and a sports type bike and i prefer the motard type...

wbks
9th February 2009, 18:23
Haha, Nah I just like giving people stick... :wari:

I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the PM I sent you last week regarding Moto Academy.

wbks
9th February 2009, 18:25
i think ill just keep it how it is thanks...lol should be a good race bike.....ive tryed both a motard and a sports type bike and i prefer the motard type...If the geometry suits you easyer than who cares!:cool:

Backing it in might be a little redundant with a short wheelbase and not much power though

Sketchy_Racer
9th February 2009, 18:26
I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the PM I sent you last week regarding Moto Academy.

Oh right, in that case, just busy, then forgetful!

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:29
If the geometry suits you easyer than who cares!:cool:

Backing it in might be a little redundant with a short wheelbase and not much power though

its got 24HP!!! how much power do you need?? the honyo's at myt wellington do alright and they have 16HP........i guess a cb125t has more torque....

wbks
9th February 2009, 18:29
Ok sweet as, just figured you might have been giving me the shoulder for some reason. Anyway, got leathers, dellorto?
It might work backing it in, but it seems to me the point is kind of gone with the short low frame but I guess it could still be fun.

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:31
Ok sweet as, just figured you might have been giving me the shoulder for some reason. Anyway, got leathers, dellorto?

look at me on my profile picture that should answer your question....:2thumbsup

Sketchy_Racer
9th February 2009, 18:31
its got 24HP!!! how much power do you need?? the honyo's at myt wellington do alright and they have 16HP........i guess a cb125t has more torque....

24hp! Definitely NOT a bucket. How much did it cost?

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:38
24hp! Definitely NOT a bucket. How much did it cost?

hae those fxr's and cb125t's have got about 25hp, the polini fully complies with the bucket rules because it was road legal........

how much did it cost??...... lets just say im still counting......:laugh:

Kendog
9th February 2009, 18:47
hae those fxr's and cb125t's have got about 25hp, the polini fully complies with the bucket rules because it was road legal........

how much did it cost??...... lets just say im still counting......:laugh:

Polini Mini Motard are intended for competition only. Use on the public highway is prohibited. (http://www.polini.co.uk/supermotard/xp4stroke.htm)

Buckets4Me
9th February 2009, 18:48
the fxr are about 20 acording to the sales lie

and the cbr's are about 18 h/p
there was a mb100 with 22 from memory

so I hope to see you kicking every one out there next time

ps there have been some fast pit bikes
they cornered well but where slow down the strait's
didn't see any backing it in to corners apart from one that whent in to hot up the inside of me one time
and another that locket the engine solid :doh:

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:48
Polini Mini Motard are intended for competition only. Use on the public highway is prohibited. (http://www.polini.co.uk/supermotard/xp4stroke.htm)

damm...your good..still their still aligible....:headbang:

wbks
9th February 2009, 18:48
Damn... Should have just spent a couple grand doing up a cbt

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:53
Damn... Should have just spent a couple grand doing up a cbt

ive ridden one and i love motard better....im planning on racing motards when im older so i have to start some where....

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 18:56
the fxr are about 20 acording to the sales lie

and the cbr's are about 18 h/p
there was a mb100 with 22 from memory

so I hope to see you kicking every one out there next time

ps there have been some fast pit bikes
they cornered well but where slow down the strait's
didn't see any backing it in to corners apart from one that whent in to hot up the inside of me one time
and another that locket the engine solid :doh:

cool im planning on spending the year practicing for the bucket 2 hour...:whistle: ive always wanted to do it....

Buckets4Me
9th February 2009, 19:14
damm...your good..still their still aligible....:headbang:

only till someone puts in a formal complaint, :laugh:
not me thow. John is a good bugger and will tell you it's not eligable
if you start winning the A grade on it :jerry: but thats unlikely THIS year

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 19:22
only till someone puts in a formal complaint, :laugh:
not me thow. John is a good bugger and will tell you it's not eligable
if you start winning the A grade on it :jerry: but thats unlikely THIS year

so isnt it eligabal?? im noting go to beat you guys too bad.....:bleh: lol im probualy gona get whiped.....still im quick to learn things...in 2 years ive come from new to pocket bike racing to new zealand champion.....it will be alittle different in buckets.....

koba
9th February 2009, 19:26
If you start winning on it you may also have to satisfy questions on competition pengine parts and the like.
The one on the polini site there doesn't look like 20anything horsepower.
A Local here takes a thumpstar out for a play sometimes, it has a full competition 150 in it and it is nutty fast.
I have no doubt at that end of it they prob make great power.
I'm not complaining, just making observations.

wbks
9th February 2009, 19:29
If someone complains that it is technically a competition engine then it isn't legal but no one will care to do anything about it unless you piss everyone off by winning - is what i think they're trying to say

Pumba
9th February 2009, 19:35
Polini Mini Motard are intended for competition only. Use on the public highway is prohibited. (http://www.polini.co.uk/supermotard/xp4stroke.htm)

If this statement is correct, I refer you to Chapter 24 of the MNZ rule book, rule 24-2-4

"Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. All engines must be normally aspirated except F4 4 stroke engines of less than 100cc capacity, which may be turbo or supercharged.

F4 2 stroke engines over 104cc are restricted to carburation equivalent to a single 24mm carburettor, F5 4 stroke engines over 53cc are restricted to carburation equivalent to a single 20mm carburettor."

Im not one to rain on someones parade and kill there enthusiasm, and I now Mt welly can be pretty lax on some rules but the one above is there for good reason.

And it really depends were you are measuring the HP figure from. Never heard of an FXR with anything close to that at the wheel.

richban
9th February 2009, 19:42
[QUOTE=DELLORTO;1927751]hae those fxr's and cb125t's have got about 25hp, the polini fully complies with the bucket rules because it was road legal........

My FXR has 17.5hp it has a carb and exhaust but otherwise standard. It is still one of the fastest bikes out there. (When I am not riding it). 25hp is lots. Its all riding anyway. I am sure you will see the light after racing a bit. I used to race scooters.

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 19:43
im assure you when i start winning im getting a cb125t......:wari:

Pumba
9th February 2009, 19:48
im assure you when i start winning im getting a cb125t......:wari:

No offence intended, but this seems like a bit of a weird statement:wacko:

It woukd make more financial sense to start on a CB125t buying one bike rather than two

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 20:20
No offence intended, but this seems like a bit of a weird statement:wacko:

It woukd make more financial sense to start on a CB125t buying one bike rather than two

im just trying different styles of riding at the moment.....if i like the motard ill race that and not change.....if i dont like it ill look for somthing else....

Skunk
9th February 2009, 20:22
hae those fxr's and cb125t's have got about 25hp, the polini fully complies with the bucket rules because it was road legal........
Insert Tui ad here - Yeah, right.


damm...your good..still their still aligible....:headbang:Nope. Never.


im assure you when i start winning im getting a cb125t......:wari:If you're winning why change?

DELLORTO
9th February 2009, 20:25
Insert Tui ad here - Yeah, right.

Nope. Never.

If you're winning why change?

they'll proply hav me up for cheating...:angry2:

speedpro
9th February 2009, 21:57
its got 24HP!!! how much power do you need?? ....

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:no::no::no::no::no:

Not a hope in hell! And "IF" it did you wouldn't be able to afford it

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 06:50
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:no::no::no::no::no:

Not a hope in hell! And "IF" it did you wouldn't be able to afford it

....how would you know?

Skunk
10th February 2009, 08:13
....how would you know?
:killingme Watch who you ask those questions of young fella... :laugh:

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 15:19
:killingme Watch who you ask those questions of young fella... :laugh:

but seriouly how could he know how much money i have.....i might be wrong about the horse power.........:yes:

bungbung
10th February 2009, 15:32
i might be wrong about the horse power.........:yes:

It is possible that Speedpro might know what bucket power is possible to produce at a price you can afford.

That and Speedpro has been racing buckets since before you were born

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 16:03
It is possible that Speedpro might know what bucket power is possible to produce at a price you can afford.

That and Speedpro has been racing buckets since before you were born

racing buckets have nothing to do with nowing how much money i can spend......but yes he'll be right about the horse power.....

SHELRACING
10th February 2009, 17:39
This bike isn't in the spirit of bucket racing, it's another case of one of the few that writes a big cheque to buy the fastest, flashest bike on the market

Hope you haven't brought it cos it's got a competetion motor. Troy Tipene had one !!

You don't seem to be making a lot of sense mate

im assure you when i start winning im getting a cb125t......:wari:
I don't know what you would pay for this machine but being Polini I'd guess a few grand. Why didn't you go buy a real bucket, a good twin just sold on Trademe for under $1000.

Expect some fallout

Steve....

speedpro
10th February 2009, 17:55
Hmmmmmm . . . sensitive wee lad. The being able to afford comment is along the lines of the "if you have to ask you can't afford it" saying. Just another way of saying it costs a lot. I personally don't give a shit what you can afford. I worry about things like going fast and trying to beat other riders. I would expect at the most maybe 12hp from one of those engines which if I'm not mistaken is a copy of a 100 year old Honda design. FXR powered bikes which are a reasonably modern design put about 17-18hp to the ground.

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 18:05
...OK i only got the polini motard because i could trade my polini in for it.....its less of a hassel.......i havnt actually done the deal yet and now im having second thoughts.....

i thought bucket bike racers would be as friendly as minimoto racers but...as it seems their not.......might be better off racing minimoto at least im not going to be lectured by dozens of people just waiting snap at my mistakes......

richban
10th February 2009, 18:12
...OK i only got the polini motard because i could trade my polini in for it.....its less of a hassel.......i havnt actually done the deal yet and now im having second thoughts.....

i thought bucket bike racers would be as friendly as minimoto racers but...as it seems their not.......might be better off racing minimoto at least im not going to be lectured by dozens of people just waiting snap at my mistakes......


I think everyone is trying to say. Its the wrong bike. That is outside the rules and if you want to win and go fast get something that will make your life easier. Not harder. Then if you do win. No one will be able to question the skill.

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 18:24
I think everyone is trying to say. Its the wrong bike. That is outside the rules and if you want to win and go fast get something that will make your life easier. Not harder. Then if you do win. No one will be able to question the skill.

there is half a ive been going to mt wellington for over 2 years....dyang honyo pitt bikes race there so y cant a polini pit bike?? its only 110cc so of course its not going to be able to trach a mb100 or fxr150...ect

Pumba
10th February 2009, 18:47
i thought bucket bike racers would be as friendly as minimoto racers but...as it seems their not.......might be better off racing minimoto at least im not going to be lectured by dozens of people just waiting snap at my mistakes......

No one is snapping, not from what I am reading and I can assure you that we are a very friendly helpful lot.

And that is what everyone is trying to do, help, from the information we can see the polini does not fit into the rules for F4 or F5, and everyone would hate to see ANYONE spend money on a bike that at the end of the day is not eligable to run


dyang honyo pitt bikes race there so y cant a polini pit bike?? its only 110cc so of course its not going to be able to trach a mb100 or fxr150...ect

I have got no idea what the hell a Dyang Honyo pit bike is so I cant really coment:laugh:

But the fact the Polini is a 110cc (presumably 4 stroke??) makes the claim of 24hp all the funnier:lol::lol::lol:

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 18:53
No one is snapping, not from what I am reading and I can assure you that we are a very friendly helpful lot.

And that is what everyone is trying to do, help, from the information we can see the polini does not fit into the rules for F4 or F5, and everyone would hate to see ANYONE spend money on a bike that at the end of the day is not eligable to run



I have got no idea what the hell a Dyang Honyo pit bike is so I cant really coment:laugh:

But the fact the Polini is a 110cc (presumably 4 stroke??) makes the claim of 24hp all the funnier:lol::lol::lol:

i said i was wrong about the horse power.....then how come thumpster, pitserpro's ect race the 2 hour??

TZ350
10th February 2009, 19:02
racing buckets have nothing to do with nowing how much money i can spend......but yes he'll be right about the horse power.....

OK! so what is your budget??? :sick: go on, make me jealous!!

.

Pumba
10th February 2009, 19:05
i said i was wrong about the horse power

Yea but that doesnt stop making it funny:laugh:


.....then how come thumpster, pitserpro's ect race the 2 hour??

I have no answer for you on that one, and am happy to admit it.

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 19:09
OK! so what is your budget??? :sick: go on, make me jealous!!

.

i dont have any money i jsut have an expensive italian pocket bike...thats why i didnt get a "real" bucket bike.......i got no money to keep my pocket bike and buy a bucket because i just brought a 2008 rm85..got no $$ now..

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 19:10
Yea but that doesnt stop making it funny:laugh:



I have no answer for you on that one, and am happy to admit it.

any way.....im just planning on fanging around mt wellington.....the only race i plan on doing is the bucket 2 hour...

wbks
10th February 2009, 19:13
i dont have any money i jsut have an expensive italian pocket bike...thats why i didnt get a "real" bucket bike.......i got no money to keep my pocket bike and buy a bucket because i just brought a 2008 rm85..got no $$ now..WTF... So you're saying you could afford to buy an expensive motard pit bike but couldn't spare up to $500 for a bucket?

TZ350
10th February 2009, 19:16
hae those fxr's and cb125t's have got about 25hp, the polini fully complies with the bucket rules because it was road legal........

how much did it cost??...... lets just say im still counting......:laugh:



:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:no::no::no::no::no:

Not a hope in hell! And "IF" it did you wouldn't be able to afford it


....how would you know?



We know mister Honda ran out of money before he got to 25hp but we accept you could have deeper pockets.

.

DELLORTO
10th February 2009, 19:17
WTF... So you're saying you could afford to buy an expensive motard pit bike but couldn't spare up to $500 for a bucket?

no im trying to say i jsut brought a 2008 rm85 2 weeks ago...thats why ive got no money to buy a bucket bike....the only reason i can get a polini motard is that arnie {polini nz} will trade my polini pocket bike for a polini motard with no cash involved......:woohoo:

Skunk
10th February 2009, 20:33
Some tracks will allow bikes that don't fit the rules to run with F4 and F5 classes. It doesn't mean they are legal or even get points and placings. When you get to serious (lol - buckets, serious) events you WILL have 'issues' as the rules are expected to be followed.

SHELRACING
10th February 2009, 21:00
Must admit the pitbike ruling is vague, they run at Mt Welly without issue. Thumpstar, Honyo (we had one), CMG.

Even the most hardcore pitbike riders see the light in the end. The Lancaster brothers being one of the best examples, Both riding twins now

Did anyone see a pitbike at the Taupo Spectacular..... Nope !!!

DELLORTO
11th February 2009, 15:46
Must admit the pitbike ruling is vague, they run at Mt Welly without issue. Thumpstar, Honyo (we had one), CMG.

Even the most hardcore pitbike riders see the light in the end. The Lancaster brothers being one of the best examples, Both riding twins now

Did anyone see a pitbike at the Taupo Spectacular..... Nope !!!

i only ever plan on racing at mt wellington becasue i have no time to go out of auckland remembering i ride dirt bikes so i have to do both....:2guns:

i do understand that pit bikes arnt realy proper bucket bikes but im realy jsut into mucking around at the track,than geting into serious racing......

koba
14th February 2009, 21:47
Even the most hardcore pitbike riders see the light in the end. The Lancaster brothers being one of the best examples, Both riding twins now

Did anyone see a pitbike at the Taupo Spectacular..... Nope !!!

I think somthing could be made of the concept, but it would have to be so reworked that it would no longer me anything like it started as.
IF you could get decent tyres somthing based on 14inch ish wheels would be quite interesting, esp on the tighter tracks.

speedpro
15th February 2009, 08:59
Among a few friends and over a few beers an idea came to light that could cover it. The idea was for a "box" class. Basically the idea was to come up with a box of certain dimensions. If the bike fitted inside then you could race it. One rule for the class only - it had to fit inside the box.

Skunk
16th February 2009, 09:32
Hmmm, you mean if you can fit a 400cc engine into a frame and fit it all into the box it's legal?

koba
16th February 2009, 17:05
HAHA!that would be interesting...

DELLORTO
16th February 2009, 18:09
i didnt end up buying this bike.......ive found a good suzuki gt125 on trade-me but its in christchurch......:( anyone know how much it is to get a bike like that up to auckland?? thanks

piston broke
16th February 2009, 18:11
ive found a good suzuki gt125 on trade-me

good man,
see you at mt welli next month.
the countdown is on.

DELLORTO
16th February 2009, 18:38
got to get a bucket bike first......:woohoo: