2009 actrix vmcc winter series dates [Archive]

Clivoris

9th February 2009, 21:02

Hot off the press and just posted on the VMCC website right here (http://vicclub.co.nz) but repeated here for your ease of perusal.
:woohoo:
Round 1: Saturday 16 May, Taupo Full Circuit.
Round 2: Saturday/Sunday 20/21 June, Manfield Full Circuit.
Round 3: Saturday 25 July, Manfield Short Circuit.
Round 4: Saturday 22 August, Manfield Full Circuit.
Round 5: Saturday/Sunday 26/27 September, Manfield Short Circuit.
Round 6: Saturday 17 October, Manfield Short Circuit.

Entry forms will be available in due course. Book those long weekends now.

scracha

10th February 2009, 03:06

Oh...full circuits...lovely. Bunch of arse that Hampdon downs aint ready tho'

Hot off the press and just posted on the VMCC website right here (http://vicclub.co.nz) but repeated here for your ease of perusal.
:woohoo:
Round 1: Saturday 16 May, Taupo Full Circuit.
Round 2: Saturday/Sunday 20/21 June, Manfield Full Circuit.
Round 3: Saturday 25 July, Manfield Short Circuit.
Round 4: Saturday 22 August, Manfield Full Circuit.
Round 5: Saturday/Sunday 26/27 September, Manfield Short Circuit.
Round 6: Saturday 17 October, Manfield Short Circuit.

Entry forms will be available in due course. Book those long weekends now.

unrealone

10th February 2009, 06:11

ajturbo

10th February 2009, 06:19

oh no... full circuit, poor old Dee, her red car will be needing new tiers ....

Deano

10th February 2009, 06:24

Bloody marvelous - the more corners the better.

Anyone whinging about the cost of getting to Taupo or the two day events should either get motivated and find some sponsors or take up tiddly winks.

koba

10th February 2009, 06:24

I like this muchly.
Cheers Vic Club. :banana:

White trash

10th February 2009, 06:29

TWO full circuit rounds and TWO 2 day events.

Damn I wish I still raced......:(

Str8 Jacket

10th February 2009, 06:45

Woot woot!! Let's hope my bike and body last the entire season this year, looking good Vic Club, thanks! :niceone:

sinfull

10th February 2009, 07:23

Oh my !!! Its like being a schoolboy who's just found his dicky again !!
:gob: And there are more corners to manfield than i've seen ?

driftn

10th February 2009, 07:34

Sure is shaping up to be a good season alright.

Quasievil

10th February 2009, 07:51

Clivoris

10th February 2009, 07:54

It will be a packed season alright. Personally I'm a fan of the Taupo full circuit, but maybe I should start a poll to see if racers prefer the shortened version that was used at the 2 Day Spectacular, track 2 I think?

Clivoris

10th February 2009, 08:31

Any idea of how the motards will run clivoris??

Can I suggest that if the Motards are put on the smaller infeild track at Manfield that we get extra laps? as it kinda feels a bit stink that our 6 lap race is over within 5 mins.........just feedback in a nice way:yes:

All constructive input is welcome Quasi. Another option is too run the same circuit as everyone else. Maybe time for a poll? We will also be discussing running S1 and S2 classes in the same race. This requires enough entries and sponsors though.

Toast

10th February 2009, 08:42

What happened to the bit of news a while back that the Manfeild extension was being put out of commission?

Looks like a good schedule though! Go Vic Club! :)

Quasievil

10th February 2009, 08:55

All constructive input is welcome Quasi. Another option is too run the same circuit as everyone else. Maybe time for a poll? We will also be discussing running S1 and S2 classes in the same race. This requires enough entries and sponsors though.

S1 and S2 always run together bro, be weird if we didnt actually, that way you will get a bigger field as well....and only one Motard race.

At manfield I think run the smaller track but give us twice the laps so its worth it..........why would we pay the same entry fee for half the race time (said blunty but with love of course)

be a great series !!

Nicksta

10th February 2009, 09:14

All constructive input is welcome Quasi. Another option is too run the same circuit as everyone else. Maybe time for a poll? We will also be discussing running S1 and S2 classes in the same race. This requires enough entries and sponsors though.

hey Clive, awesome stuff having 2 two day events :)

my 2 cents worth, track 2 cos then those pesky 650's dont get away from us!! but the superbikes will prefer the A1GP track, t1...... i dont mind either way as long as we get 3 races each day!

Benk

10th February 2009, 10:27

svs

10th February 2009, 10:56

my 2 cents worth, track 2 cos then those pesky 650's dont get away from us!! but the superbikes will prefer the A1GP track, t1...... i dont mind either way as long as we get 3 races each day!

problem with track 2 is that T9 (chicane onto end of back straight) is downright dangerous for the 600s and superbikes. a lot of bike ended up in the tyre wall and gave some concern for the stewards running the meeting last time it was used.

either way - more 2 day events is all cool ny me. cheers clive :2thumbsup

svr

10th February 2009, 11:29

Anyone whinging about the cost of getting to Taupo or the two day events should either get motivated and find some sponsors or take up tiddly winks.

Any KBers not racing this weekend because `it costs too much' but planning to do the full 6 round winter series ? Whats ya reasoning there? VMCC members need to support the national round first right?

IMHO Taupo track 2 is WAY better than track 1 - for little F3 bikes too.
Oh, and 650s seem to beat the 400s on track 1 too.

Nasty

10th February 2009, 12:05

Any KBers not racing this weekend because `it costs too much' but planning to do the full 6 round winter series ? Whats ya reasoning there? VMCC members need to support the national round first right?

IMHO Taupo track 2 is WAY better than track 1 - for little F3 bikes too.
Oh, and 650s seem to beat the 400s on track 1 too.

A club series and a National event are two different things. The Club runs a good solid series in the winter at basically two tracks ... which is totally different to the national series run over the summer at multiple tracks and is known to be reasonably affordable.

Why should VMCC members feel they have to race in the nationals ..that is a choice for them and some feel a bad one, and not at all where they want to be.

I would have throught VMCC members would want to support the club and then as they advance compete in the nationals ... but it is their choice and pressure to do one or other is, I think, rather uncalled for.

discodan

10th February 2009, 12:08

I think it is a great line up for the winter series. I was worried that Taupo wasn't going to have a round but pleased that it is.

Not too fussed whether track 1 or 2 is used at taupo. No doubt the big bikes will not like the tight track 2 but then they do have Manfeild for the rest of the rounds so it might be nice to have a track that isn't so dependant on HP to mix it up.

Deano

10th February 2009, 12:10

Any KBers not racing this weekend because `it costs too much' but planning to do the full 6 round winter series ? Whats ya reasoning there?

I was going to enter but couldn't due to personal/family reasons.

Billy

10th February 2009, 12:34

A club series and a National event are two different things. The Club runs a good solid series in the winter at basically two tracks ... which is totally different to the national series run over the summer at multiple tracks and is known to be reasonably affordable.

Why should VMCC members feel they have to race in the nationals ..that is a choice for them and some feel a bad one, and not at all where they want to be.

I would have throught VMCC members would want to support the club and then as they advance compete in the nationals ... but it is their choice and pressure to do one or other is, I think, rather uncalled for.

I think you may have misinterpreted Cookys post there Kari,Im sure he was suggesting they should support the Manfeild round of the Nationals not the whole series

Nasty

10th February 2009, 13:25

I think you may have misinterpreted Cookys post there Kari,Im sure he was suggesting they should support the Manfeild round of the Nationals not the whole series

Thats sweet ... as that is not what I read .. I want our members to race at both ... it makes it easier on VMCC to have that :)

Nicksta

10th February 2009, 14:10

i'd love to race both, but most of my sponsorship is for the winter series only... so racing in summer is a bit more expensive! I love doing the full winter series... its challenging.. has ups and downs... different tracks and is exciting :) cant wait for this year! any word on cost for cross entering as i heard there was discussions about making ot a bit more expensive?

Tony.OK

10th February 2009, 14:14

Ohhh FFS!!!!........................I knew that 1st round would be on that bloody date.
I wonder if the Stepson will notice if I'm not at his wedding............buggar.

Not a good start to the series.............................my vote would be for full track at Taupo, much longer 6th gear wheelies to be had:2thumbsup

Tony.OK

10th February 2009, 14:19

Any KBers not racing this weekend because `it costs too much' but planning to do the full 6 round winter series ? Whats ya reasoning there? VMCC members need to support the national round first right?

IMHO Taupo track 2 is WAY better than track 1 - for little F3 bikes too.
Oh, and 650s seem to beat the 400s on track 1 too.

Tell ya what...................You supply me $360 for entry, 2 sets of tyres and $100 for bike fuel, another $100 for the test day(thats another set of tyres) and I'm there man:niceone:

Hell I'll even shack up with Eddy for the weekend:bleh:

That'll leave me some money to race Paeroa:doh:
Just incase..................I am joking, the moneys simply not there for this one, Id've loved to have entered.

svr

10th February 2009, 16:23

I think you may have misinterpreted Cookys post there Kari,Im sure he was suggesting they should support the Manfeild round of the Nationals not the whole series

Yep - was really just asking a (pointed) question.
Anyone else wonder why more vmcc members don't get out there and a have a crack at their own national round?

wharfy

10th February 2009, 16:42

Yep - was really just asking a (pointed) question.
Anyone else wonder why more vmcc members don't get out there and a have a crack at their own national round?

I'm not a national level racer :( I'd have been in clubmans like a shot if they had the class at Manfield.

Ivan

10th February 2009, 17:42

honestly most of us are making the trip to come up the whole way to Taupo as look VMCC is a wide spread group of racers it would be awsome to racethe A1 Circuit not for the fact my SV has a good run down back straight I love the way the long circuit is tight and twisty then wide open flowing corners makes for real good racing and alot safer than the dreaded chicane I honestly hate the chicane on short circuit not one of back straight the one enteringm its Dangerous I have seen a guy crash there and theres nothing but a concrete wall to hit.

Plus more corners bigger circuit real racing not a bucket track being used for big bikes.

Keep up the good work cant wait to be there.

And my reasoning for not racing this weekend is the fact my bike is still waiting for final parts to fix it after its crash in early december.

DEATH_INC.

10th February 2009, 17:53

Mmmmm two minefield full tracks....love the full track down there.....better start saving.....

White trash

10th February 2009, 18:23

I'm not a national level racer :( I'd have been in clubmans like a shot if they had the class at Manfield.
Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?

driftn

10th February 2009, 18:44

Mmmmm two minefield full tracks....love the full track down there.....better start saving.....

Hey what times you doing round the short track.

Frenchy

10th February 2009, 19:35

Tell ya what...................You supply me $360 for entry, 2 sets of tyres and $100 for bike fuel, another $100 for the test day(thats another set of tyres) and I'm there man:niceone:

Hell I'll even shack up with Eddy for the weekend:bleh:

That'll leave me some money to race Paeroa:doh:
Just incase..................I am joking, the moneys simply not there for this one, Id've loved to have entered.

+1 except for Shacking up with Eddy I'm not that desperate!! :wari:

GIXser

10th February 2009, 20:03

Any idea of how the motards will run clivoris??

Can I suggest that if the Motards are put on the smaller infeild track at Manfield that we get extra laps? as it kinda feels a bit stink that our 6 lap race is over within 5 mins.........just feedback in a nice way:yes:

i reckon make the motards just 2 laps, they should be on dirt not street/track and i hear there all gay.. frenchy told me !!!:cool:

Quasievil

10th February 2009, 20:46

i reckon make the motards just 2 laps, they should be on dirt not street/track and i hear there all gay.. frenchy told me !!!:cool:

But Frenchy gave me some after you did ?

steveyb

10th February 2009, 21:03

Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?

F%$k me, someone who agrees with what I think!!
Manfeild entry fee for championship classes = $250 for 2 days racing. EDIT: I mean that is not bad value for money really.

You guys really are talking yourselves out of it.

svr

11th February 2009, 06:57

F%$k me, someone who agrees with what I think!!
Manfeild entry fee for championship classes = $250 for 2 days racing.

You guys really are talking yourselves out of it.

I don't think its the money, Steve.

roogazza

11th February 2009, 09:44

I don't think its the money, Steve.

Svr, the national series seems to be a big scary place for your average club racer these days. I would have thought it would been the ideal time to look flash with only about eight in front of you on a grid ? Gaz.

ps I don't understand another thread about a hillclimb that is far more dangerous getting so much young chat ?

Clivoris

11th February 2009, 10:39

ps I don't understand another thread about a hillclimb that is far more dangerous getting so much young chat ?

The things I like about the hillclimb are the rarity of an event like it, its close proximity, and for $100 I get to test myself without the stress of worrying about someone else cocking up and hurting me. Just me, a great road and the clock. There is a nice vibe there too.

svr

11th February 2009, 11:22

CHET

11th February 2009, 12:32

hey clive cant wait for the series to start, looking forward to the long tracks it should be awesome count me in. As for the nats wish i could attend but i think im in the same boat as nicky here as much as i would love to enter its just not in the budget,while it may be a cheap price for some its expensive for others it all depends on youre raceing budget eh?
To all those that are raceing good luck and kick arse.:eek:

steveyb

11th February 2009, 16:21

I don't think its the money, Steve.

No Dave, I don't really believe that it is either. I really believe that there are other issues at play, e.g. more scared of getting beaten rather than racing over a cliff or into a powerpole, like being big fish in small pond, like wasting money on a new exhaust pipe to get 3 hp rather than a weekend racing and trying to learn more.

I don't hold with the too big and scary issue either. Well, perhaps I do as that is what I am getting at. It isn't really too big and scary, it just seems that way cos alot of guys who have no or little experience of it are saying that it is.

White trash

11th February 2009, 16:45

Svr, the national series seems to be a big scary place for your average club racer these days. I would have thought it would been the ideal time to look flash with only about eight in front of you on a grid ? Gaz.

ps I don't understand another thread about a hillclimb that is far more dangerous getting so much young chat ?

Interesting that people are scared more of getting their arses kicked than dying!

No Dave, I don't really believe that it is either. I really believe that there are other issues at play, e.g. more scared of getting beaten rather than racing over a cliff or into a powerpole, like being big fish in small pond, like wasting money on a new exhaust pipe to get 3 hp rather than a weekend racing and trying to learn more.

I don't hold with the too big and scary issue either. Well, perhaps I do as that is what I am getting at. It isn't really too big and scary, it just seems that way cos alot of guys who have no or little experience of it are saying that it is.

While I agree with some of what you chaps are saying, I don't really think bagging another event or someones choice to do it is particularly sporting.

But then, I am one of those flash in the pan, no nothing/no talent wombles you particularly like to rave on about Gaz, so my opinion's probably worth shit.

Deano

11th February 2009, 16:46

Tony.OK

11th February 2009, 17:31

Once again a thread is turned into a bagging session...........................

Maybe some other reasons for not entering the Nats round are that Paeroa is a week away, its easier to pay for rounds that are a month apart, times are tough for everyone at present, if the 115% rule is applied alot of ppl wouldn't qualify etc etc.

I'd be there in a shot if I could make it possible, if only just for the experience, let alone not being last, but its simply not possible at this time....

How about instead of making assumptions and pre judging without knoweledge, some might try encouraging first.........it may just work!

Sorry Clive for going off topic:done:

Well done VMCC for upping the anti with the upcoming Winter Series:yes:
I'm sure it will be bigger and better than ever.

roogazza

11th February 2009, 17:39

While I agree with some of what you chaps are saying, I don't really think bagging another event or someones choice to do it is particularly sporting.

But then, I am one of those flash in the pan, no nothing/no talent wombles you particularly like to rave on about Gaz, so my opinion's probably worth shit.

Your opinion is worth just as much as anyone elses. As far as getting anything more out of that post...... But hey, if the cap fits ???

Chrislost

11th February 2009, 17:56

hey Clive, awesome stuff having 2 two day events :)

my 2 cents worth, track 2 cos then those pesky 650's dont get away from us!! but the superbikes will prefer the A1GP track, t1...... i dont mind either way as long as we get 3 races each day!

I actually quite like the A1 track at taupo.

Turn 7 - 11 is fooking sweet!
My brakes overheat on the short one, so im a little biased...

Clivoris

11th February 2009, 18:03

Sorry Clive for going off topic:done:

No probs there man. I'm enjoying the discussion, but due to a conflict of interest I can't really contribute to the debate about the pro's and con's of entering the Nationals.

johan

11th February 2009, 18:05

The 2009 winter series format is looking good!

I'm planning on giving it a try again!

cheers

sinfull

11th February 2009, 18:50

I'd be there in a shot if I could make it possible, if only just for the experience, let alone not being last, but its simply not possible at this time....

.
Fuckin shame you aint got some serious backing bro !~ H is still adament adamant ada... damb sure she got you at 1.08 last week on practice day !
Be interesting to see you riding all that was available to ya !

Tony.OK

11th February 2009, 19:21

Fuckin shame you aint got some serious backing bro !~ H is still adament adamant ada... damb sure she got you at 1.08 last week on practice day !
Be interesting to see you riding all that was available to ya !

Cheers Bill..........

My bank acc # is 0226 77272828 77:whistle:....................na its not really hehee

Nicksta

12th February 2009, 06:20

I actually quite like the A1 track at taupo.

Turn 7 - 11 is fooking sweet!
My brakes overheat on the short one, so im a little biased...
true... maybe a few less pies and your brakes will be better? lol

No probs there man. I'm enjoying the discussion, but due to a conflict of interest I can't really contribute to the debate about the pro's and con's of entering the Nationals.
you could PM me and i'll post it :whistle:

Toast

12th February 2009, 09:44

true... maybe a few less pies and your brakes will be better? lol

Gee you chicks have such high expectations of us boys, the monkey is already 8% body fat! Hope his bike can handle my pies at Paeroa!

svr

12th February 2009, 11:34

More KB speculation huh ?

I'm not scared of feck all, but you're not necessarily talking about me anyway.

As for the hillclimb - it is a totally different buzz to a road circuit. And if cost was the issue - the hillclimb is as little as $100 for two days.

A lot who enter the hillclimb don't even race at club level, so why would they enter the Nats ? They do the hillclimb for fun guys. Don't knock something you haven't tried. Could ask are you scared ? And what's with the bullshit about a big fish in a little pond ? Jay Lawrence is current King.

But keep speculating - this is KB, full of know it alls, smart arse etc. Not that I'm necessarily talking about you. Stirrers.

Sorry Deano didn't mean to start a(nother) bagging session or knock the hillclimb (which is pretty cool).
We all have to pick and choose our events - I was just asking for little more honesty with regards to why, every year, hordes of otherwise committed (club) racers sidestep their national round.
Now going home to put a troublesome sv head back on (again) so i can hopeully ride to manfield and race on old tyres with no money etc. etc.

slowpoke

12th February 2009, 18:57

my vote would be for full track at Taupo, much longer 6th gear wheelies to be had:2thumbsup

Yup, not to mention using more than one gear has a certain appeal.

I'm not a national level racer :( I'd have been in clubmans like a shot if they had the class at Manfield.

Me too!

Plus more corners bigger circuit real racing not a bucket track being used for big bikes.

Well said young fullah.

Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?

Yes mate, I'd luv to share the track with those guys....unfortunately they probably won't feel the same way about me! They've handed me my arse before and I've got no problem "letting" then doing it again, but what happens if I can't meet the qualifying time? Spend all that dosh on entry fees, chew up all those tyres (yes, even at my pace) and I don't qualify. Money gone, with no racing to show for it. It's like all foreplay and no sex....no fair!

We all have to pick and choose our events - I was just asking for little more honesty with regards to why, every year, hordes of otherwise committed (club) racers sidestep their national round.

It's got me stumped too. When you've got guys like Peter Tanner who would rather clean up Clubman's (last year) and Open Twin's (this year) than turn a wheel in a showcase event there is something wrong.

The big thing for Superbikes is that thanks to Club cross entry rules we actually have very few competing Nationally in the first place.

koba

12th February 2009, 19:14

Yep - was really just asking a (pointed) question.
Anyone else wonder why more vmcc members don't get out there and a have a crack at their own national round?

I'm on a streetstock.

3 rounds, all down south.

I'm working on a plan to get down there for it but it ain't easy esp with time off work for me.

May have a crack at Manfeild (my local) next year on my uncompetitive '86 400.

Nicksta

12th February 2009, 20:22

Gee you chicks have such high expectations of us boys, the monkey is already 8% body fat! Hope his bike can handle my pies at Paeroa!
shit, didnt know that..... always see him in leathers so cant tell :eek:
you racing the VFR?

wharfy

12th February 2009, 22:01

Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Yes as a Superbike !!! (100 hp ?)

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?
Yes

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

No offence taken - My best lap of Manfiled is 1:19.9xx on the trusty Hornet.
I guess the first few superbikes at round five will be under 1:09
If the qualifying 115% rule was not invoked I'd be lapped every 3 laps or so and just be a moving hazard.
I don't have a problem being last at a National event. I already have the dubious distinction of coming last (being eliminated first, by my old mate Alan Thoresen ) in the modified bike class at the 2008 National drag races :) I was also bloody close to last at the Cliffhanger - but I wasn't a hazard to anyone (not even myself :) ) at those events.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

Yes it would be an excellent adventure - but I'd still be a moving hazard :(

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?[

Well yes that is the most compelling reason to enter it would be fun.

But I do seem to recall when the idea of Scrivy's endurance race was first floated on KB you held the position that it would be dangerous for slow riders to be "circulating" while the fast riders were "racing" and that the place to have fun was in clubmans ?

I did do the endurance race (and was last) and for a while when it was pissing down my tyres (and a crash :( ) made me a "moving hazard" so I came off the track until it was dry enough for me to go out again in safety and get my finishers trophy :)

Maybe next season ( I hope to have a 600 ) if I can get my Manfield lap times down to the mid - low teens I will give the Nationals a crack - After all one has to do these things while one is still young :)

I only do this because it is FUN I - at 54 I am way past taking racing (and myself) to seriously, even with a competitive bike and the best will in the world I could not be described as a National level racer.

White trash

13th February 2009, 07:32

But I do seem to recall when the idea of Scrivy's endurance race was first floated on KB you held the position that it would be dangerous for slow riders to be "circulating" while the fast riders were "racing" and that the place to have fun was in clubmans ?

Fair call indeed. I've re-evaluated my position and you're right. There should be no slow cunts in any race at all. This is obviously a pisstake.

I actually believe that if somone can qualify within that 115%rule, they've as much right to be on the track as the next guy.

Quasievil

13th February 2009, 07:34

I actually believe that if somone can qualify within that 115%rule, they've as much right to be on the track as the next guy.

Which Races is that rule actually used there bro??

wharfy

13th February 2009, 08:17

I actually believe that if somone can qualify within that 115%rule, they've as much right to be on the track as the next guy.

Me too, and if I thought the contenders would only have to pass me once on about lap 7 or 8 I might have a go. I actually entered Wanganui in F1 (but the organisers put me in post classics which I thought was a good call).
I figured that the Hornets shortcomings would be mitigated by the nature of the circuit.
Looking at the lap times I would not have been last in F1 but would have been lapped by the top 4 - 5 riders, but only once. Interestingly (well to me anyway :) ) I was about 8 seconds of the pace but there were 89 riders between Mr Shirrifs (the fastest) me. (and another 89 behind).

Anyway the point of all this is - That I felt comfortable about entering F1 at Wanganui on the Hornet but don't feel comfortable about entering it in F1/suberbikes at the Nationals on a fast race track.

Marknz

3rd March 2009, 18:57

Looks like a great programme, well done VMCC. :clap:

I hope to get to a few more rounds this season and watch you guys and girls going round in circles.

ajturbo

4th March 2009, 05:58

Me too, and if I thought the contenders would only have to pass me once on about lap 7 or 8 I might have a go. I actually entered Wanganui in F1 (but the organisers put me in post classics which I thought was a good call).
I figured that the Hornets shortcomings would be mitigated by the nature of the circuit.
Looking at the lap times I would not have been last in F1 but would have been lapped by the top 4 - 5 riders, but only once. Interestingly (well to me anyway :) ) I was about 8 seconds of the pace but there were 89 riders between Mr Shirrifs (the fastest) me. (and another 89 behind).

Anyway the point of all this is - That I felt comfortable about entering F1 at Wanganui on the Hornet but don't feel comfortable about entering it in F1/suberbikes at the Nationals on a fast race track.
so you were that dodgy middle man eh???