AMCC (off-topic)

[jrandom]

Couldn't agree more.

[Nasty]

Couldn't agree more.

You replying to a misquote or did you alter it first? can't find the original quote ... cos from what I saw it was totally different.


Well then, you have more than adequately reinforced the points I made that forums bring out the very worst in people. Its amazing that anyone is prepared to stick their hand up and organise anything given the foul mouthed emotive demeanour of so many.

From having organised a few of these events ... you can't make that much money with the costs of running the event.

[jrandom]

You replying to a misquote or did you alter it first?

I altered it first as a shorthand way of implying, for those with the IQ to pick up on it, that organisers stand to profit from large street racing events.

[Nasty]

I altered it first as a shorthand way of implying, for those with the IQ to pick up on it, that organisers stand to profit by large street racing events.

Why alter what someone else is saying and imply that he said it ... that is extremely deceitful ... and also underhanded ... something which you may be good at ... but that is I think to others on the site ... dishonest ...

But then again ... it is you .. so should we expect anything different.

IT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID >>> SO WHY ALTER IT!

[jrandom]

IT IS NOT WHAT HE SAID >>> SO WHY ALTER IT!

We all know it's not what he said.

The way the 'quote alteration' thing works for online discussion is, you alter a quote to say something wildly different from what it said, and then either agree or disagree with that.

The intention is not to deceive, although, as I implied just now, the targeted audience is folk with an IQ that exceeds their shoe size. The intention is to clearly and quickly convey a precise difference in opinion.

Being 'deceived' by that approach to online discussion probably indicates that the reader needs to... sharpen up a little.


But then again ... it is you .. so should we expect anything different.

Hmm. Could it be that you have taken a personal dislike to me as a result of my statements to the SM team regarding the fact that females make bad moderators? Bit of resentment there, perhaps?

:laugh:

Now, let's get back to discussing the implications of that AMCC newsletter, shall we?

[Virago]

...Hmm. Could it be that you have taken a personal dislike to me as a result of my statements to the SM team regarding the fact that females make bad moderators? Bit of resentment there, perhaps?...

Poor lamb...

That chip on your shoulder getting a bit heavy there...?


...Now, let's get back to discussing the implications of that AMCC newsletter, shall we?

Off course - but only when you've finished with the off-topic irrelevence.

[jrandom]

That chip on your shoulder getting a bit heavy there...?

It's a chup, a chup, a puhtayduh chup, and I may be bug, but I can't choo it bro, cos I got no teef.

:first:

(Is someone going to PD some posts now, and maybe infract me a bit for something or other? I'm pretty sure we're all the way off topic.)

[Robert Taylor]

I'm not a racer, nor an AMCC member.
I am however involved as a volunteer with BRONZ. We (BRONZ) comes in for a fair amount of criticism in Internet forums also.
You do what you can. You do it the best you can (given time and financial constraints etc). You can do no more than that, and in that regard I rest easy.

But one thing you do get is an honest opinion. It may not be what you wanted to hear, but it is what people are thinking. That really is gold. Few people are brutally honest in real life, no one tells you your arse is fat in that. They will on the Internet.

Yes thats how it happens, there is no excuse though for brazen smart alecs. When I did my military training ( several decades ago when people were generally more disciplined anyway ) I took great delight in seeing the SH.. literally kicked out of those who were lippy and smart alecs.

So much is done out of goodwill in our sport and others but you still get knocked for it.

[SPman]

When I did my military training ( several decades ago when people were generally more disciplined anyway ) I took great delight in seeing the SH.. literally kicked out of those who were lippy and smart alecs.

That could be interpreted as making those who are different conform to the rest - shut up and do what we tell you........or else!

Might work in the forces, doesn't in the civvy world.

[Robert Taylor]

That could be interpreted as making those who are different conform to the rest - shut up and do what we tell you........or else!

Might work in the forces, doesn't in the civvy world.

No thats not the intent of what I said, I am saying that there are people out there who have no common decency and get a perverse kick out of being smart alecs. Military training is a great vehicle for instilling some personal discipline and decency. And I also disagree that such training is inapplicable to the civvy world.
As it happens look at the brazen disrespect that many boy racers have ( a very real national problem ) Some stiff boot camp training and ( yes ) brutal discipline would knock a lot of these crash test dummies into shape.
Sorry, off topic.

[SixPackBack]

Yes thats how it happens, there is no excuse though for brazen smart alecs. When I did my military training ( several decades ago when people were generally more disciplined anyway ) I took great delight in seeing the SH.. literally kicked out of those who were lippy and smart alecs.

So much is done out of goodwill in our sport and others but you still get knocked for it.

Hardly something to be proud of Robert-twisted and sadistic!:nono:

[Robert Taylor]

Hardly something to be proud of Robert-twisted and sadistic!:nono:

Oh come on, thats ex pseudo communist Government PC bull. Nothing wrong with some stern military correction for those with too much lip.

[doc]

Nothing wrong with some stern military correction for those with too much lip.

No disagree. Can't bash them just cos they disagree with those that have been "Brainwashed" Some of those with the "Smartarsed' comments think a bit quicker than the rest of us and hindsight often proves them right.

[Robert Taylor]

No disagree. Can't bash them just cos they disagree with those that have been "Brainwashed" Some of those with the "Smartarsed' comments think a bit quicker than the rest of us and hindsight often proves them right.

Nothing wrong with being an individual and being quick of wit. Also nothing wrong with having a sense of decorum and personal discipline and knowing when to button it. Respect authority. Frankly, our society is TOO tolerant and that is why we have so many problems. Bring in compulsory miltary training for all school leavers! No apologies for being right wing and reactionary. Anyway, off topic.

[The Stranger]

Oh come on, thats ex pseudo communist Government PC bull. Nothing wrong with some stern military correction for those with too much lip.

Yet you get all pissy now when the boot is on the other foot.
Hmm what's the word I am looking for?

[doc]

Respect authority........ Frankly, our society is TOO tolerant


What our society needs is good leadership where their authority through a bit of personal sacrifice earns the respect, instead of recompence in the way bonuses .

We couldn't afford a military that could do CMT effectively.

[jrandom]

Respect authority.

Hey man, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

What's 'authority'?

A democratic consensus of opinion? I'll respect that if I can't change it.

Some dude who wants to push me around and shut me up? He can take my respect from my cold dead hands.


Re - use of internet for stating claims/complaints etc.

Isn't this better than word of mouth gossip and chinese whispers ?

At least the claim is written for all to see and can be countered by the relevant party. Not so when it is verbal only.

Per-cisely.

Written and posted in public. As I stated earlier, if someone's criticised and doesn't like it, they can respond and repudiate.

Public internet forums are the great democratic leveller. Communications technology is a Good Thing (tm).

[malcy25]

Public internet forums are the great democratic leveller.

Would that usually be the lowest level?:yes:

[jrandom]

Would that usually be the lowest level?

It's all very well to mock the idea of every man having an equal voice... right up until you find that they don't, and neither do you.

Be grateful for it.

[Biggles08]

Would that usually be the lowest level?:yes:

Welcome to the party malcy25....you seem to be enjoying your stay at the 'lowest level' or was that comment made with regards to everyone else using this forum as a means to further their opinions? :baby: I guess its ok for you to state your 'opinion' here but no one else???? smarten up bro!

[Robert Taylor]

Hey man, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

What's 'authority'?

A democratic consensus of opinion? I'll respect that if I can't change it.

Some dude who wants to push me around and shut me up? He can take my respect from my cold dead hands.



Per-cisely.

Written and posted in public. As I stated earlier, if someone's criticised and doesn't like it, they can respond and repudiate.

Public internet forums are the great democratic leveller. Communications technology is a Good Thing (tm).

You have the temerity to use the word respect when you deliberately misquote people, you are stepping over a line that anyone with common decency wouldnt...

[wharfy]

Some stiff boot camp training and ( yes ) brutal discipline would knock a lot of these crash test dummies into shape.
Sorry, off topic.

This has been tried in NZ.
In the 70's the NZ Justice Dept. ran "Detention Centers" based on the military ones. The theory was for a "short sharp shock" for first time offenders. They failed I am sorry to report :(
It would be nice if the complex problems of anti-social behavior could be fixed by giving someone a good kicking.

Back on topic, I have competed in a (small) number of race meetings and Track days and the Vic Club race meetings (I think) are the best run, safety seems to be their top priority. The riders briefings reinforced that and what was said at the briefing was what happened. Newbies are issued with safety vests (Greymouth do the same for first timers). Vic Club have a pretty good web site and the entry process seems to work OK.

The only suggestion I have is that the club nights be held in the Newlands pub - What do you say AJ - Clive :)


Oh yeah I am all for spirited argument on the net but - "fuck up and die, your a lesbian or I'd smash em" and some of the other stuff that they degenerate into is a bit boring