Is my bike a write-off? Place bets here! [Archive]

EatOrBeEaten

10th February 2009, 22:40

After the suspension had a disagreement with a shitty bit of asphalt last week and the bike ended up on top of me (quiet at the back) in a state of disrepair (I'm talking to you, fizbin), it's finally made it to the garage for an insurance assessment. Now, according to the good people at Red Baron, it's going to be a close-run thing on if the insurance spods will repair it or write it off.

So, as I'm bike-less for the moment and suffering from withdrawal (OK, I sniggered), I desire to know what you think. Given the damage, do you the good denizens of KB think that my plucky, suspension-softer-than-cake-in-this-weather Kawasaki ZZR 250 will survive? Damage rundown as follows....

Right fairing buggered
front fairing buggered
left fairing a bit buggered
fairing substructure smashed in on right side
front forks twisted slightly
front suspension bottoms out during normal road riding :shit:

given the bike cost just over $4k, what's the prognosis? Am I doomed to GN ownership, or will the noble Tox rise again?

pete376403

10th February 2009, 22:43

fairing damage alone will write a bike off. Plastic is apparently more expensive than gold.

EatOrBeEaten

10th February 2009, 23:05

yeah, it's not cheap! :buggerd:

Maybe I could make a fairing out of corrugated plastic and duct tape?

SARGE

10th February 2009, 23:08

yeah, it's not cheap! :buggerd:

Maybe I could make a fairing out of corrugated plastic and duct tape?

i think ShitMark and Rent-a-kid Masterbator already own the patent on that idea

EatOrBeEaten

10th February 2009, 23:10

i think ShitMark and Rent-a-kid Masterbator already own the patent on that idea
Bugger. Will just have to go naked then...

ducatilover

10th February 2009, 23:19

i chose the daft bint idea.

please dont get a gn

DIN PELENDA

10th February 2009, 23:24

Bugger. Will just have to go naked then...
U cheaky :jerry:

hmmmnz

10th February 2009, 23:27

if i owned it un-insured i'd say it would be back on the road with in a week or 2 at minimal cost, but since you seem to be insured they would definitely write it off, whats 4k to them

R6_kid

10th February 2009, 23:28

PirateJafa

11th February 2009, 04:16

You'd be surprised how easy it is to write off bikes - my bike would have been written off recently due to a chap doing nearly $8,000 of damage to it - but I'm still riding it around town quite happily, and it's [almost] completely road-legal still.

RoadRacer04

11th February 2009, 06:06

Their was a Duc on trademe as an insurance write off because someone had put a screwdriveer through the ignition barrel.... rest of bike was mint.

hayd3n

11th February 2009, 06:23

pics or it neva happened

RoadRacer04

11th February 2009, 06:44

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-201103957.htm

EatOrBeEaten

11th February 2009, 07:13

Considering the cost of a fairing panel from Kawasaki for your bike I'd say its a write off.

Next time you have a bike that handles that bad, perhaps get it sorted before you end up in the same situation.
The irony being that I was going to get in touch with people about getting the suspension sorted when I binned it. Oh well, you live and learn...

fizbin

11th February 2009, 07:14

(I'm talking to you, fizbin),

Right fairing buggered
front fairing buggered
left fairing a bit buggered
fairing substructure smashed in on right side
front forks twisted slightly
front suspension bottoms out during normal road riding :shit:

What wa wa what did i say???????:shit::innocent:
the bike is a write off dudeet time to go shopping!
oh yeah if you are going to ride around naked then pics or it never happened!:innocent:

GSXR Trace

11th February 2009, 08:05

Right fairing buggered
front fairing buggered
left fairing a bit buggered
fairing substructure smashed in on right side
front forks twisted slightly
front suspension bottoms out during normal road riding :shit:

given the bike cost just over $4k, what's the prognosis? Am I doomed to GN ownership, or will the noble Tox rise again?

its a write off... fairings will do it... but twisted forks... for sure will be written off! Sorry about that man!

edit: but you could get it back and fix it yourself... so it is repairable... the insurance company just wont pay for it!

jrandom

11th February 2009, 08:07

Replace it with a Scorpio.

:yes:

vgcspares

11th February 2009, 08:21

plastic runs from $500-$1500 per piece (divide by 100 for Chinese parts) so with a bit o labour yours is a write-off

but wait, there's good news - take their cheque

then offer to buy the wreck for $500 (maybe they'll drag you up a bit on that) and fix it using all the earlier advice

oh and don't forget to say you want it still registered before agreeing the price

How's that ?

gijoe1313

11th February 2009, 09:17

Just remember that at least you got off (er under) lightly from your incident! :pinch: :sweatdrop

Glad to hear that all you have to do now is paw through the rigmarole of insurance claims, searching for an alternative ride if needs be and making the funny with the postings. :lol:

Do keep us updated with the situation ...

EatOrBeEaten

11th February 2009, 09:22

The Pastor

11th February 2009, 09:28

If you want to ride it naked i can show you how to repair plastic fairings with fiberglass, but be waren it take forever and it quite dusty work,

can you cut and paste with paper and glue? Can you apply sandpaper?

Then you can fix the fairings, the only thing thats hard is the paint - but getting it preped for painting is pretty easy just takes a long time.

The Pastor

11th February 2009, 09:29

And the forks can be reparied by wheel and frame in caimbridge - will cost less than $200.

Mountlocal1

11th February 2009, 09:31

Heh, cheers everyone (and fizbin, I'm aware of how your mind works- on pure filth).

I would buy it back and repair it myself but as the bike is my sole form of transport I can't afford to take that kind of time out :(

And j, you sadden me. A Scorpio? I'm not that kind of girl!

Id grab the insurance $$ and look for something older but cooler... :cool: Make up a GB400 cafe racer or something??

Use your imagination (with help from people on here?)

There are plenty of other options.

Good luck!

EatOrBeEaten

11th February 2009, 09:32

ETA: to Renegademaster....

See above about needing something on the road fast!

I sent off all the paperwork today, am hoping they get in touch by the end of the week. Having to rely on lifts to work and back is driving me slightly special...

coffeejunkie

11th February 2009, 09:45

Yes plastic is like gold on a bike these days, LOL
My partner is a towey and ive seen less damage being written off so i'd go kiss ya bike goodbye and think about what ya gunna buy next

bull

11th February 2009, 09:48

fairing damage alone will write a bike off. Plastic is apparently more expensive than gold.

Have to agree there - my whole bike insured for 11K, lowsided the right side and insurance quoted $5800 worth of damage. Seems fishy to me that the right side is worth more than the left :crazy:, perhaps my whole bike is made of plastic and the engine is worthless.

pritch

11th February 2009, 09:49

i think ShitMark and Rent-a-kid Masterbator already own the patent on that idea

Priceless! :clap: Woulda blinged yer but gotta share the love...

jrandom

11th February 2009, 10:05

A Scorpio? I'm not that kind of girl!

<img src="http://www.motott.co.nz/images/rider.jpg"/>

You mean this kind of girl?

davebullet

11th February 2009, 10:13

Do what vgcspares says. I did that with an old car many years ago after a thief tried to convert it. Still driveable (just needed new clutch).

EatOrBeEaten

11th February 2009, 12:10

You mean this kind of girl?

Yeah, pretty much.

Anarkist

11th February 2009, 13:01

Streetfighter it.

Hadoken! :wari:

Conquiztador

11th February 2009, 20:28

Insurance is a strange animal. What you have the bike insured for and the amount you pay insurance for has nothing to do with what the bike is worth when it is written off. (Apart from in very special customised cases where the specific bike has been accessed and a amount has been agreed upon by owner and insurance company) The value of the bike is depending on what you would pay for it today.

Here: Lets say you in 2005 purchased a s/h 250cc bike for $4K. In beginning of 2009 you crash it. They will check what such bike is worth today and compare that to the cost of the repair, and the outcome is most probably that as it today is worth $2.5K that is what you get in your hand. If you have done "upgrades" and costly alterations and you have not informed the insurance company, then they are not considered when the claim is settled.

And if you have pissed off the Red baron guys they will most probably tell the insurance company that a s/h of yours is only worth $1.5K today and that is all you get in your hand. (But as the Insurance company will use more then one source when determining the worth of the bike you should still get close to the $2.5K).

After having looked in to it, looks like a decent Kawa ZZR 250 from early-mid 1990's is worth between $3.5K and $6K. So I would say you would get $4K in hand.

Use $3.5 to buy another bike and $500 to buy back your one, and suddenly you are better off.

Good Luck.

EatOrBeEaten

11th February 2009, 20:51

Awesome post Conquiztador, cheers :2thumbsup:

Unless I've done something very naughty I'm not aware of I can't think why the RB boys would have it in for me, but I hadn't considered that as a factor :shit:

As I only bought the bike three weeks ago (shame is me) I can't imagine it's depreciated too much in value (apart from the bin of course)

I'm investigating the market, seems to be some interesting nekkid beasts out there for about $3.5k. I'd love to buy Tox back and make her a project, but I don't have a garage to keep her in. So if anyone else fancies something to do...

gatch

11th February 2009, 21:03

Bad luck on the crash ma'am..

If you could live with riding a fast chainsaw an rg would be sweet, 2g for a good one ? awesome fun to ride, pretty quick for a tiny bike..

I have the same problem ie no bike anymore, have reverted to more primitive means of transport, pedal power :( failing that, I have a life-long pass for the wae-wae express..

Squiggles

11th February 2009, 21:41

Do a deal with the insurance co and get the bike back (reg'd if possible) as well as some cash... (She'll be a writeoff almost certainly, the price of a couple of a couple of levers, an exhaust and a fairing will do it) But as is often the case, could be put back on the road for ALOT less

Badger8

11th February 2009, 21:42

Yer, pretty sad state alright, poor Tox :( Sad to say, but i suspect a write off.
Kinda pains me to see that, when there's really nothing wrong with the bike, just a bit of cosmetics.
How many times do i gots ta tells ya? Bikes and babes are best naked! :bleh: (and if you can get a two-for-one deal there, i will shout you a :apint: :laugh:)
and i do worry about that third option... apparently i talk in my sleep, but havent been told i nibble :eek5:

EatOrBeEaten

12th February 2009, 12:38

Still no word back, it's all still being priced up and so forth. Another weekend bikeless? What on earth am I going to do with myself? :(

The Pastor

12th February 2009, 13:00

Oh yeah its going to take forever aye

EatOrBeEaten

12th February 2009, 15:02

Well, I've explained how vital the bike is to me getting around and that it's my sole form of transport. I'm hoping that and the fact I will be phoning them every day might move things along...

pete376403

12th February 2009, 20:26

Well, I've explained how vital the bike is to me getting around and that it's my sole form of transport....

Like they could give a shit? An insurance company? Grasshopper, you have so much to learn...

EatOrBeEaten

12th February 2009, 20:31

Worth a shot, being female and a mixture of pathetic and forceful does work from time to time...

Conquiztador

12th February 2009, 20:35

I dont do bike insurance (never done). If I crash I deserve to pay.

But I always reconned that if I was to start a Insurance company for bikes, then I would have as part of the conditions that we, the WFC Insurance, would provide you with a old 250cc bike while your Humbaswish 1900 is being fixed, just so you can get to work to earn the dosh to keep on paying us.

But surely this has alreay been thought of... anyone...

Max Preload

13th February 2009, 09:44

I dont do bike insurance (never done). If I crash I deserve to pay.

Ditto, and it's more than paid off. I recall my only other crash in late '92 cost me about $800. My recent one, not sure yet - but it sure won't be more than the equaivalent of a few years premiums and certainly not 16 years worth. But there are people who constantly crash so I guess it's worthwhile for them. I'm glad I'm not subsidising them, although plenty of saps must be.

But I always reconned that if I was to start a Insurance company for bikes, then I would have as part of the conditions that we, the WFC Insurance, would provide you with a old 250cc bike while your Humbaswish 1900 is being fixed, just so you can get to work to earn the dosh to keep on paying us.

But surely this has already been thought of... anyone...

I know with some car policies you can pay a pittance extra to have a rental car provided in the event yours becoming unusable through a crash or during the period of the repair itself so you're never without transport.

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 13:47

The bike insurance dude has take a half day so is not available until Monday. Another weekend bikeless and transportless. Woe is me...

jrandom

13th February 2009, 13:50

Another weekend bikeless and transportless. Woe is me...

How long have you been on KB now? Shouldn't there be a reasonable gaggle of young men with working motor vehicles sniffing around?

Don't go fucking up my long-running Mean Time To Snagging average of single white females on KB, miss. You've got about another month to run before you fall outside the standard deviation.

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 13:53

Christ, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Honestly, here I am, looking for a ride and I get nowt.

this place is letting me down, and it would seem is letting you down too...

jrandom

13th February 2009, 13:55

Christ, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Honestly, here I am, looking for a ride and I get nowt.

The Stranger seems keen. Try PMing him.

this place is letting me down

A little bit, aye. Perhaps swapping your profile photo for one in a bikini would help?

it would seem is letting you down too...

Oh, no no, I've done very well out of this forum, very well indeed.

Ahem.

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 13:59

The Stranger seems keen. Try PMing him.

He said if I PM'd him again he'd lock me back up in his basement.

A little bit, aye. Perhaps swapping your profile photo for one in a bikini would help? Nobody needs to see my pasty Gaelic flesh like that :shit:

Oh, no no, I've done very well out of this forum, very well indeed. I was thinking in terms of bringing your averages down. It's OK, you can be secure in the fact that we all know you're not single and proud of it! :p

jrandom

13th February 2009, 14:07

He said if I PM'd him again he'd lock me back up in his basement.

See what I mean?

That's keen in my books.

Nobody needs to see my pasty Gaelic flesh like that

Photoshop can work wonders. Would you like a referral to a good technician? Reasonable rates, etc.

It's OK, you can be secure in the fact that we all know you're not single and proud of it!

Be a bit of a worry if I wasn't proud of it, wouldn't it?

:crazy:

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 14:14

See what I mean?

That's keen in my books.

I don't want to go into the basement again, it's scary down there :(

Photoshop can work wonders. Would you like a referral to a good technician? Reasonable rates, etc.

I said pasty, not encephalitic.

Be a bit of a worry if I wasn't proud of it, wouldn't it?

:crazy:

It's quite sweet actually, bless yer little cotton socks :D

jrandom

13th February 2009, 14:17

I don't want to go into the basement again, it's scary down there :(

Well then, just offer him a blowjob in exchange for the loan of a motorcycle.

I said pasty, not encephalitic.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

bless yer little cotton socks

My cotton socks are already quite holy [sic] enough, thank you very much.

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 14:25

Yeha, it doesn't mean what I thought it meant. Been a long week, and my brain has lost it's clever. :(

I meant elephantiatic....

The Pastor

13th February 2009, 14:40

my brain has lost it's clever. :(

i had one of those once, tasted real good.

jrandom

13th February 2009, 14:41

my brain has lost it's clever.

It sure has. For that apostrophe crime, BDOTGNZA kill you so hard your grandfather die!

EatOrBeEaten

13th February 2009, 16:56

Yeah, I saw it, but had stopped caring by that point. I am ashamed. :(

I'm a failure to the pedant mindset, I'll hand in my OED on the way out...

Conquiztador

14th February 2009, 12:36

Any news on the bike? (Or should I have been reading the earlier posts to get my answer???)

EatOrBeEaten

14th February 2009, 12:56

still nothing. :( At least the weather isn't good for bikes!

Will be on the case again on Monday...

EatOrBeEaten

14th February 2009, 12:56

and the tags on this just get better and better... :D :D

portokiwi

14th February 2009, 13:09

well is it a write off or not.:beer:

EatOrBeEaten

14th February 2009, 13:13

still nothing. :( At least the weather isn't good for bikes!

Will be on the case again on Monday...

well is it a write off or not.:beer:

I alert m'learned friend to the above post.

Believe me, I'm more impatient than you!

portokiwi

14th February 2009, 14:14

sorry:dodge: I was so lucky to be with Swann. He came stright away after I got in touch with them..... he saw it said it was a write off and I had the money in my account a day later.

EatOrBeEaten

14th February 2009, 14:27

:D :D no worries. I think I'll be reviewing my insurance options next time...

EatOrBeEaten

16th February 2009, 10:14

Excess on the insurance is $1649 :shit: x lots.

Bollocks to it, they write it off I'm buying it back off them if I can. Decision by tomorrow apparently...

MsKABC

16th February 2009, 10:16

Excess on the insurance is $1649 :shit: x lots.

Bollocks to it, they write it off I'm buying it back off them if I can. Decision by tomorrow apparently...

That's a pretty random sounding number? Usually they work in round numbers :scratch: What's up with that?

portokiwi

16th February 2009, 10:18

wtf mine was $250. didnt have to pay in the end which was better:woohoo:

EatOrBeEaten

16th February 2009, 10:18

*shrugs* it's because of my licence and the fact it was a single-vehicle accident apparently. It is a bit random though...

EatOrBeEaten

16th February 2009, 12:41

NOMIS

16th February 2009, 12:44

Squiggles

16th February 2009, 13:33

RB suspect the forks are bent. Appraisal should be in by the end of today. I'm kinda reeling from all this, feel like I've been through the grinder. I haven't slept for worrying about it and I'm starting to worry I'm got going to be able to afford any bike at all after all this.

One stupid fucking bin. I'm losing my good humour...

If its written off and you choose to buy back, do not fear as there are plenty of parts out there to fix it up to at least road going condition (forks included), then you'll still be mobile and can decide if you'll get another bike or fix it up fully as funds allow.
If you do buy it back have them keep it registered

EatOrBeEaten

16th February 2009, 13:46

Cheers folks. Just having to contend with still not getting paid yet (work made a, shall we say, mess of things), the start of term, kids being somewhat difficult and my beloved Kwaka being held hostage in Red Baron. :(

Have sort of made the decision to get her back one way or the other, I need to get riding again!

skidMark

16th February 2009, 13:48

i think ShitMark and Rent-a-kid Masterbator already own the patent on that idea

Scusme i have a nekkid fighter.

Badger8

16th February 2009, 14:53

Scusme i have a nekkid fighter.

You keep him in the closet and pull him out for parties?

Badger8

16th February 2009, 14:59

Excess on the insurance is $1649 :shit: x lots.

Bollocks to it, they write it off I'm buying it back off them if I can. Decision by tomorrow apparently...

That seems like a very retarded number... And excessively high even considering the circumstances. If it's that bad, it kinda makes one wonder as to the point of insurance? Personally i dont have it for the bike should i crash it, but in case i should crash into a $300,000 car... a bit of dosh fixing up my own silly mistake i can live with, but it's the possibility of bein fucked for someone else's toy that puts the fear of God into me and makes me suck it up every time that bill comes in.

Best solution may be to cancel the claim and do it y'self. Lay on some beers and round up some mates, surely with a weekends effort you could have it road-legal fighter, then take your time fixing up the fairings if you so please

Conquiztador

16th February 2009, 15:23

Best solution may be to cancel the claim and do it y'self. Lay on some beers and round up some mates, surely with a weekends effort you could have it road-legal fighter, then take your time fixing up the fairings if you so please

I did that with my oldest sons NV400. (Did not invite anyone around, so more beers for me...) Got a s/h parts bike for $250, then spent some time mixing and matching, painting black and modifying. He is now happily riding her again. And I even fixed some of those bits that he planned to have done tomorrow...

EatOrBeEaten

16th February 2009, 15:42

They promised to phone this arvo.

Cynicism. I have it.

Conquiztador

1st March 2009, 09:04

They promised to phone this arvo.

Cynicism. I have it.

Update?

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Badger8

1st March 2009, 09:07

Update?

Has been fightered for now, but i reckon it looks damn hot as such.
Piccies over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1956653&postcount=86)

Conquiztador

1st March 2009, 09:46

Has been fightered for now, but i reckon it looks damn hot as such.
Piccies over here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1956653&postcount=86)

Good work!!!

And the insurance shambles? What was the outcome there?

EatOrBeEaten

1st March 2009, 09:52

I just cancelled the claim, got R6 kid to pick it up from the garage. Wasn't worth the hassle in the end!

Am wanting to take her out for a spin, if anybody fancies a trip out somewhere....

Conquiztador

1st March 2009, 10:08

I just cancelled the claim, got R6 kid to pick it up from the garage. Wasn't worth the hassle in the end!

My life long decision to never have had a bike insured sounds better and better... Imagine all the extra $$'s I have had available for go fast bits and JD... Lets see: 40 years of biking X average 2 bikes in posession/year x $500/year per bike in insurance (OK, so that is low, but lets be fair, all have not been shit hot). That makes... $40K!!!

Today is a good day!!!

Max Preload

1st March 2009, 15:02

My life long decision to never have had a bike insured sounds better and better...

Same goes for me. Some people claim insurance is peace of mind... to which I say Bollocks!. It gives me absolutely no peace of mind whatsoever wondering if I crash whether the insurance company will find some irrelevant information to weasel out of paying or attempt to dick me over on pre-accident value despite me forking over cash to them for many years. Fuck that shit.

howdamnhard

1st March 2009, 15:34

YellowDog

1st March 2009, 15:44

If you are willing to take the panels off yourself, those boys at The Plastic Repair Company don't charge much to smooth and spray panels. May be worth getting a quote.

EatOrBeEaten

1st March 2009, 15:51

It looks really very good eatorbeeaton.:2thumbsup.
Hmmm I wonder what mine would look like without fairings?
Must check out your bike sometime to see how similiar the 600 is ti the 250.
I know the 400 and 600 are very similiar sharing the same frame.
cheers mate, still need to sort the clocks out and the subframe but she's pretty distinctive! You're in Auckland, maybe see you at the NASS or summat?

Yellowdog= cheers for the tip :)

Number One

1st March 2009, 15:59

The bike looks good - reminds me of my old spada actually :shutup: good that you got it back on the road - would seem to that it might be better now than it was before with all the assistance from others kicking in to tidy things up. Enjoy

EatOrBeEaten

1st March 2009, 16:00

Number One

1st March 2009, 16:01

She's a testament to how decent bikers are, she really is. :)
eye eye there are some good folk on here ready to help out at the drop of a hat. Should be able to make that trip down south now too I take it.

howdamnhard

1st March 2009, 16:05

[QUOTE=EatOrBeEaten;1958996]cheers mate, still need to sort the clocks out and the subframe but she's pretty distinctive! You're in Auckland, maybe see you at the NASS or summat?

NASS is a bit out of the way , perhaps when the East Akl boys do a ride again,they have been pretty slack lately and I've been working. The back of the clocks look like they need a little weather protection and perhaps a little beefing up of the supports but all together it looks pretty good.Do you mean the front or back subframe?Looks like you have removed the front subframe.

EatOrBeEaten

1st March 2009, 16:21

NASS is a bit out of the way , perhaps when the East Akl boys do a ride again,they have been pretty slack lately and I've been working. The back of the clocks look like they need a little weather protection and perhaps a little beefing up of the supports but all together it looks pretty good.Do you mean the front or back subframe?Looks like you have removed the front subframe.
How east are you? And yeah, they're a bunch of slackers out this way for sure.

underside of the clocks does need waterproofing, but I think I'll see about getting some new ones anyway. Top front subframe is gone but there's still some bolted on under the grill, and that's going to go. I also need to sand and killrust the pipes, and she'll be looking awesome :)

Badger8

2nd March 2009, 02:36

And yeah, they're a bunch of slackers out this way for sure.

Well spin on it next time ya want a ride then! :lol:

underside of the clocks does need waterproofing, but I think I'll see about getting some new ones anyway. Top front subframe is gone but there's still some bolted on under the grill, and that's going to go. I also need to sand and killrust the pipes, and she'll be looking awesome :)

Vapor Dash (http://www.trailtech.net/vapor.html) FTW...
There was a guy sellin these on tardme, might still be some there.

Grinder and a buffer/stripper wheel are there if ya want it. De-rusted my header off the dirtbike in like 20 minutes, after i gave up on sandpaper taking forever :yes:

Max Preload

2nd March 2009, 13:52

Here's someone enjoying their 'peace of mind' (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=93852)... :rofl:

EatOrBeEaten

2nd March 2009, 14:29

Vapor Dash (http://www.trailtech.net/vapor.html) FTW...
There was a guy sellin these on tardme, might still be some there.

Grinder and a buffer/stripper wheel are there if ya want it. De-rusted my header off the dirtbike in like 20 minutes, after i gave up on sandpaper taking forever :yes:

Cheers, all I need now is a spare few hours (fat chance...) :D

Here's someone enjoying their 'peace of mind' (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=93852)... :rofl:

Aye, indeed. In the UK it's illegal not to have at least some kind of insurance, just to cover your arse if you damage someone else's baby! As a result I'm kinda inured to the idea, though I may plump for third party, fire and theft next year...

PirateJafa

2nd March 2009, 15:51

How east are you? And yeah, they're a bunch of slackers out this way for sure.

That's a bit cheeky when you're the one who is too busy to go riding, even when a bike is offered to ya! ;)

EatOrBeEaten

2nd March 2009, 19:56

:p Oh yeah, and the East coast boys have no sense of humour either, the delicate little flowers....

:chase: ;)

Badger8

2nd March 2009, 21:43

Cheers, all I need now is a spare few hours (fat chance...) :D

I know the feeling! One crappy day when it's no good for riding drop by with some beers (beer tax! :D) and go for gold. Got half a can of black high-temp engine paint there too, you can have it if you can get the spray nozzle to go (was doing silly buggers on me when i was finishing up with it the other day)