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Eddieb
12th February 2009, 16:26
My 4 month old Revit pants, sold to me as being waterproof, aren't. It took 12 minutes in very light fine misty drizzle this morning for them to leak.

Anyone else have this problem? Have I fallen victim to salesman hype?

Str8 Jacket
12th February 2009, 16:29
Mate trust me, no gear is *really* completely waterproof, resistant maybe but not to this crap! I rode home in the welly tropics tonight and I was completely dripping wet when I got home and my gear is normally really god... teknic jacket and KBC pants, both codura.

Eddieb
12th February 2009, 16:35
In this rain I would expect a bit to get through, but in this mornings fine mist for 12 minutes only I would have expected to stay dry.
They didn't just leak a little, it leaked a lot.

They leak as bad as my 10 year old pair of pants that are ripped from the crotch almost down to both knees. I didn't expect that.

vifferman
12th February 2009, 16:36
I have Cordura pants - Spidi Gran Turismo. Never leaked a drop in the time I've had them (3 or 4 years?)
I also have a pair of Motoline overpants (nylon, with welded seams and plasticised coating on the inside). They never leaked either, in the 5-6 years I used them.

vifferman
12th February 2009, 16:38
In this rain I would expect a bit to get through, but in this mornings fine mist for 12 minutes only I would have expected to stay dry.
Your expectation is reasonable. They shouldn't have leaked after 12 minutes of moderate to heavy rain. Even my old leather pants would've kept me dry for 12 minutes of fine mist.
They did have the liners in (assuming they have these?)

Eddieb
12th February 2009, 16:45
Your expectation is reasonable. They shouldn't have leaked after 12 minutes of moderate to heavy rain. Even my old leather pants would've kept me dry for 12 minutes of fine mist.
They did have the liners in (assuming they have these?)

They were sold as having a membrane built into the main pants liner to allow water to pass through the outside layer and run down the outside of the liner. At the bottom of each leg are little vents to let the water drain out.

The pants were sold as the inner liner being thermal only.

Tank
12th February 2009, 19:57
They were sold as having a membrane built into the main pants liner to allow water to pass through the outside layer and run down the outside of the liner. At the bottom of each leg are little vents to let the water drain out.

The pants were sold as the inner liner being thermal only.

in that case take them back as not fit for purpose and that they didnt last as long as a reasonable consumer would expect.

They should be replaced under the consumer guarantees act.

rasty
12th February 2009, 20:34
If it is as bad as Auckland the last couple of days I would think it more likely to be sweat/condensation on the inside rather the moisture getting through from outside.

hospitalfood
12th February 2009, 20:45
i am yet to own anything truly waterproof, if it wasn't for viffermans comment i would not even believe in waterproof, aside from skin.
i have never got wet on the inside of my body.

take the pants back.

Jerry74
12th February 2009, 20:47
My neo mugello pants are waterproof still after 12 months.

nodrog
12th February 2009, 20:49
my skin is waterproof, no water has ever got through to my insides.

bezajel
12th February 2009, 21:04
They were sold as having a membrane built into the main pants liner to allow water to pass through the outside layer and run down the outside of the liner. At the bottom of each leg are little vents to let the water drain out.

The pants were sold as the inner liner being thermal only.

My revit corduras aren't too bad, but do leak at the crotch after probably 20 mins of moderate rain...? Right where the water runs down the tank and has nowhere else to go...

I don't think mine have membranes and vents... I didn't really get a sales pitch as it was a choice between the only pair of women's corduras and the only pair of women's leathers ;)

Matt
13th February 2009, 12:18
Yup, my Rev-it pants have always leaked (as did the jacket before I finally got the dealer to take it back - see http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1459828#post1459828).

Take 'em back IMO - although you may have to fight to return them ("never had any complaints before...blah blah blah) - and buy something half waterproof like Alpinestars, Teknik etc etc

Hitcher
13th February 2009, 12:20
Cordura isn't waterproof, not even a little bit. GoreTex is. If it's not GoreTex it won't keep you dry.

klingon
13th February 2009, 12:35
My Dririder Nordic4 pants are fantastic. I've had them for a couple of years and worn them to commute virtually every day, even in the most torrential downpours in the middle of winter.

I can't say they have never leaked a drop, because they have. One day in July a drop ran down my right leg and into my boot. I was scared that was the end of their water-proofness but it has never happened again.

riffer
13th February 2009, 13:06
Hmmm. My REV-IT's are awesome.

Unfortunately they're the only waterproof thing I've got. So the water still gets in from up top and the boots.

Nasty
13th February 2009, 13:48
My 4 month old Revit pants, sold to me as being waterproof, aren't. It took 12 minutes in very light fine misty drizzle this morning for them to leak.

Anyone else have this problem? Have I fallen victim to salesman hype?

You have a problem with 4 month old pants .. take them back to where you bought them ...

My Rev-iti pants are like Riffers ... Bloody awesome .. and never had an issue!!

MaxCannon
13th February 2009, 15:17
My Revit pants that I've had for over a year never let in a drop of water.

Warm and dry in winter with the liner and (reasonably) cool in summer - without the liner obviously.

Eddieb
13th February 2009, 15:30
Thanks Folks

It's a bit dfficult to pop in to the dealer as I bought them in Auckland when up there but live in Wellington.

Will have a think about what I can do.

Gizzit
13th February 2009, 15:34
That would piss me off just a tad! 4 months old, and advertised as waterproof ... yes I would be thinking of taking them back.

I think some cordura trou are better than others. I had a pair of Spool trou that stayed dry in some pretty heavy rain over 80kms one day I can remember, and at other times in heavy Northland rain, too and from work, etc. I thought they were pretty good. Mind you they were "young" ... less than 18 months old before my son thought he should have them!
Another family member has been using some of the 1Tonne cordura trou, and jacket, wearing them every day to work and back, and on some shortish trips .... he reports no leaks! They are about 10 months old now I think, and still going strong.

FWIW .. For me ... if it's going to rain ... proper waterproof trou and coat goes on over my leathers. Full proof!! Not the flashest looking setup, with the fluro yellow parka and navy trou .... but highly visible ... and they work!

ital916
21st February 2009, 03:08
For every brand of gear there are people who say their pair of whatever has failed and is shit whilst other people say that the gear they purchased is awesome. Best thing to do is ring the store, describe exactly what happened, what you have been riding in, how you put the jacket on etc etc.

Key is to remain calm and deal with the store. Being irate and throwing accusations about the brand in question can be very detrimental to getting the problem sorted as is being angry at the staff.

Gore tex is good but what the other brands put into their gear is basically the same but with different names hitcher. Kinda like saying vivid is the only good brand of permanent marker.

paturoa
21st February 2009, 08:31
....It's a bit dfficult to pop in to the dealer as I bought them in Auckland when up there but live in Wellington....

Just email them and take it from there.

Gizzit
21st February 2009, 08:38
For every brand of gear there are people who say their pair of whatever has failed and is shit whilst other people say that the gear they purchased is awesome. Best thing to do is ring the store, describe exactly what happened, what you have been riding in, how you put the jacket on etc etc.

Key is to remain calm and deal with the store. Being irate and throwing accusations about the brand in question can be very detrimental to getting the problem sorted as is being angry at the staff.

Gore tex is good but what the other brands put into their gear is basically the same but with different names hitcher. Kinda like saying vivid is the only good brand of permanent marker.

I agree that 'generally' for every bit of bike gear sold ... some people have a great experience, and another will say it's the worst he or she has owned. Thats life. There's not always a 'tidy' way of explaining it! It's only if gear is consistently getting a poor rating, or a good rating that you can think .... "ok that sounds like crap/good gear". Price isn't always a good indicator either, IMHO. :)

McJim
21st February 2009, 08:51
I worry more about losing skin than getting wet - I never wear anything but leather. I put oilskins over the top. Cheaper and safer than pricey cordura that doesn't keep you dry OR protect you when a car de-bikes you.

Gizzit
21st February 2009, 11:13
I worry more about losing skin than getting wet - I never wear anything but leather. I put oilskins over the top. Cheaper and safer than pricey cordura that doesn't keep you dry OR protect you when a car de-bikes you.

Absolutely right McJim. Leather is the way to go to protect your skin, and water proofs can go over top. That is my ideal as well. And you are right, being safe is more important than being dry, any day.
There is other gear out there that people choose to use for whatever reason, but having recently come off once in cordura and once in leather, IMHO leather is certainly better protection against skin damage. :niceone:

ital916
21st February 2009, 22:10
Absolutely right McJim. Leather is the way to go to protect your skin, and water proofs can go over top. That is my ideal as well. And you are right, being safe is more important than being dry, any day.
There is other gear out there that people choose to use for whatever reason, but having recently come off once in cordura and once in leather, IMHO leather is certainly better protection against skin damage. :niceone:

Where does this myth of cordura doesn't protect you come from. Yes leather does provide excellent protection and can be repaired after a fall. In a race situation leather is fantastic but cordura will protect you in a crash. It is one use only but it doesnt magically disentegrate when it touches the road. Cordura pants are better for all weather and touring applications as well as commuting. The can have more feature i.e pockets as well as better breathability and functionality over leather pants. They look nice and are not as cumbersome as leather gear.

If you buy cheap non rated cordura gear then you are risking it but that is the same as buying cheap non rated leather gear. The stitching wont be on par etc.

Gosh, the myths one hears like leather is the only way as cordura will melt to your skin blahdy blah blah blah.

Gizzit
22nd February 2009, 06:05
Where does this myth of cordura doesn't protect you come from. Yes leather does provide excellent protection and can be repaired after a fall. In a race situation leather is fantastic but cordura will protect you in a crash. It is one use only but it doesnt magically disentegrate when it touches the road. Cordura pants are better for all weather and touring applications as well as commuting. The can have more feature i.e pockets as well as better breathability and functionality over leather pants. They look nice and are not as cumbersome as leather gear.

If you buy cheap non rated cordura gear then you are risking it but that is the same as buying cheap non rated leather gear. The stitching wont be on par etc.

Gosh, the myths one hears like leather is the only way as cordura will melt to your skin blahdy blah blah blah.

I can only talk from my experience crashing in both cordura gear and leather.
The cordura gear I was wearing was top quality, and it wore through very quickly as I slid down the road, .... and I didn't slide far! It was certainly "one use only". That was in November last year. In my most recent "off", in January this year, I was wearing leather, and the leather held up well, and wasn't very scuffed at all.

I haven't heard of cordura melting onto your skin ..... but would certainly hope not.
I have some new cordura gear again, as well as leather. I like cordura for the reasons you point out ... waterproof (generally), comfort and fit, pockets, etc. I will be using it for commuting on my scooter, but hopefully .. I won't have another off wearing it! Mind you .... I don't want to have another "off" wearing my leather either! I'm kind of over that whole crashing thing!

What has been your experience with cordura so far ? Have you come off your bike wearing cordura gear ?
It's interesting to hear peoples experience with different products.

Grizzo
22nd February 2009, 06:38
I think you will find that fek all brands could claim 100% waterproof. They all leak, just some less than others.

Gizzit
22nd February 2009, 06:40
I think you will find that fek all brands could claim 100% waterproof. They all leak, just some less than others.

Agreed. Unless it's Goretex, eh ..... ;)

ital916
22nd February 2009, 10:28
I think you will find that fek all brands could claim 100% waterproof. They all leak, just some less than others.

Fucking A, someone finally gets it lol