noise control

[MSTRS]

Just wondering who here has had a problem with a dickhead neighbour complaining unreasonably about noise, and what you did in response? My young fella is a drummer and has been for 6 years. In that time we've lived in 2 different areas & never had a complaint. Dickhead next door moved there less than a year ago, and according to him, we are the neighbours from hell. Young fella has a lesson at home for up to an hour on a Saturday morning after 10am. Apparently this is NOT ACCEPTABLE to the dickhead. Council, noise control and police HAVE NO PROBLEM. So - should we ignore the dickhead, arrange the local HOG guys to meet at our place (baffles optional) or blow-up the dickhead's letterbox??

[NC]

Knock him out and piss on his face.

[sAsLEX]

get a noisey old 2 stroke lawn mower and remove the exhaust and mow the lawns early sunday morning, failing that get a shitty old rotary car and sit that on your front lawn making that terrrible noise they make!

[JohnBoy]

i think that you should educate your neighbor on what a loud noise is..... at about 6am on a sunday morning!!
or have a huge street party, invite all the neighbors but them!!

failing that you can always experiment... like what dose an 1100 sound like with no pipes??

[dhunt]

We have one of them old motorised reel mowers (That goes along by itself), and boy does it make some noise at full snot while you are just about running to keep up with the mower, admittly it doesn't do a brillant job at that speed as sort of bounces over bumps. But it sounds exactly what you want for the job, pitty you aren't a bit closer.

[crashe]

where does your young fella practise his drumming?
Is it in a sound proof room?

It could be that your neighbour has sensative hearing and cant cope with the noise of the drumming. Some people just cant cope with certain noises.
Try talking to the neighbour nicely and ask him if this is it.
Maybe arrange to have the drumming practise when you know the neighbour will be out at work or something..... its called compromise.

Not everyone wants to have that kind of noise.

I know that I wouldnt like to have to hear it either.
We had a party going across the way with a full band going and shit it was LOUD. I called noise control....

[Paul in NZ]

Ignore him.... Lifes too short....

If the cops have no problem - not much he can do is there so don't let him get under your skin and provoke you into doing something daft.

If he gets ugly, call the cops.

Alternately

1. Agree with him, comiserate and tell him not to worry as your son has decided to give up the drums and is now going to learn the electric bagpipes.

2. Agree with him, comiserate and tell him not to worry as your son has decided to give up the drums and is now going to learn home taxidermy, so sorry about the strange smells and say thats a really swell looking cat you have there.

3. Get the whole band to practise there and hire Ozzy Osbourne as the lead singer. Naturally since this is a heavy metal band there will be associated occult meetings etc.

4. Tell him drumming is the only thing that calms your son when the voices in his head telling him to kill the neighbours get too much to stand. You do realise what happed to the previous neighbours daughter don't you when they forced him to stop drumming one night when the moon was full? It was a beautiful funeral. Quite touching...

Best just let them wind themselve up, don't let it bother you unless he physically takes some action, then he might need a slap.

Paul N

[MSTRS]

Point of order....this neighbour has made no attempt to make himself known to the rest of us. He is totally unreasonable and refuses to discuss or compromise. My young fella has his lesson at home & practises elsewhere (not practical to have his lesson there). The practice lasts less than an hour and is in a closed room on the far side of the house from this dickhead.

[MSTRS]

Paul - that's brilliant. Point is, I won't let this prick dictate to us, but although I'm tempted to up the noise etc, I don't want to annoy the rest of the neighbourhood

[Motu]

He's lucky he doesn't live next to my wife's family,they are all muso's and can and often do put a band together,everyone can multi instrument.So we were over there one night in the 90s rehearsing for a party the next night...when a woman from next door walks in ''you just can't keep on doing this,night after night,none of us can get any sleep,you keep it up untill 3 or 4 in the morning,we just can't take it anymoe'' She just broke down and cryed,sobbing in front of us,totaly distraut....no one said a word,we just stood watching her crack up.

Then as she staggered out the door....ONE,TWO,THREE,FOUR! and away they went again.Bastards.

We took over the house and had one of the brothers living there,shit,it was different on the otherside I can tell you.He would come home at 3.00am and fire up his guitar or sit down at the drum kit.I'm proud to admit I totaly lost it - I turned the hose into his open car window...I pulled the fuses and he chased me around the house and yard,I was a total prick.Finaly we managed to kick him out and had some peace....(we had a baby at the time)

He has built a studio at his rental house (no permits) and last time my wife went around there for the two of them to have a jam,the noise control were there in seconds...they must of heard the amp come on....

[White trash]

Knock him out and piss on his face.

I love you Ruth. You're so nice.

[Sniper]

You have been there longer, tell the dickhead to piss off or else

[Paul in NZ]

Point of order....this neighbour has made no attempt to make himself known to the rest of us. He is totally unreasonable and refuses to discuss or compromise. My young fella has his lesson at home & practises elsewhere (not practical to have his lesson there). The practice lasts less than an hour and is in a closed room on the far side of the house from this dickhead.

In that case he is an arse hole.

File an intimidation or harassment lawsuit against the prick. Whats more you can tell him that when you son picks up his grammy or first gold record that he is NOT invited to the party with Ringo.

Paul N

[bugjuice]

I go with Paul's option 4..
else tell the dickhead to grow up and get a life.

[ManDownUnder]

I'd get in touch with him and find out the basis of his complaint.

Is he a shift worker - maybe they need to sleep during the day... can you establish if it's the schedule or the noise. If it's the schedule you might be able to help.

If it's the noise it's a shame 'cos he's the only one with the problem.

Make sure drum practice co-incides with open homes too... if it ever comes to that. You'll be able to buy his place cheap (through an anonymous 2rd party of course... so they don't know it's you) then flick it on for a profit.

AAA I love idiots (I'm suffering from them too at the moment...)
MDU

[ManDownUnder]

Knock him out and piss on his face.

no no no - I think it's been mentioned - the subtle approach doesn't seem to work...

You need to get aggro LOL!
MDU
PS - just glad there is no smiliy for that suggestion... YEESH!

[ManDownUnder]

Actually... re-reading this... how about the local KB gang show up on your front lawn early one morning looking for you...?!?

Leave all the bikes idling while we stop for a coffee or 5? Shouldn't take more than an hour LOL

[MSTRS]

Why stop at the local KBers?? We will warn the others in the street first of course.

[ManDownUnder]

Why stop at the local KBers?? We will warn the others in the street first of course.

invite them all... have a stonkin' great BBQ, bit of musci, show the laddies and ladies how to get some extra horses out of their cars and bikes (the meffler reduction system of course)...


... aaa yes - this could be fun...

[sAsLEX]

invite them all... have a stonkin' great BBQ, bit of musci, show the laddies and ladies how to get some extra horses out of their cars and bikes (the meffler reduction system of course)...


... aaa yes - this could be fun...

and make sure people are in need of new tyres so they can detroy the old ones in clouds of blue smoke on the drive

[thehollowmen]

how about KB organise some time trials or street drags for charity?
:-P

[MSTRS]

I volunteer to be the charity

[Biff]

Ask him after what time of the day it would be acceptable. If he doesn't think any time at all is acceptable, fuck him, carry on as normal. You made an effort, now he can piss off and find somewhere else to live.

Oh - and what NC30 said if he continues being a cock.

[Artifice]

you could give him a pair of earplugs for christmass.

[Odin]

A few questions to you :

1. Is he bigger then you ?

2. Has he got some blackpower/mongrelmob freins ?

3. How attached are you to your house ? ...your car ? your pet ? ....your ....

4. Do you really want a war ?

Perhaps you can talk to him. If you are not hazzeled by the police/noise control then just speak to him nicely and defuse him.

[Beemer]

The guy may have hearing like mine - I have really sensitive hearing and hear things that most other people can't, and I know for a fact that drumming would 'get to me' so to speak. Is this guy only complaining about the one hour lesson on a Saturday morning? If so, he is being a bit unreasonable, but does your son practice during the week? If he is drumming for a few hours a day as well, then sorry, but I'd be complaining too.

When we lived in town I could hear this thumping bass at 1am and knew there was nothing I could do about it unless I found out where it was coming from. I got dressed and went for a walk to track it down - believe it or not, it was coming from 800m away (I know the distance because I worked in the next street) - it was the bar at the police station!

We were also driven mad by the Jake the Muss wanna-be across the road who would crank the stereo up at 6pm on a Friday and it would still be going at 10am the following morning. The music was so loud our windows would vibrate! Noise control were too scared to do anything, so we had to put up with it until he got evicted for not paying his rent.

Some noises affect some people more than others - I can't bear the sound of wind turbines whereas my husband can't even hear them. I hear a friend's pacemaker ticking - he can't even hear it! So if your neighbour has hearing like mine, then I can sympathise with him. I used to dread coming home from work because I'd be subjected to noise from at least four or five neighbours - the guy next door like to take three hours to mow a pocket-handkerchief sized lawn; the guy over the back had the radio tuned to sports all year round and liked to sit outside and listen to it; Jake always had his stereo going; his neighbour would try and drown him out, and the old lady across the road would have the tv on so loud you could turn the sound down on yours.

People work hard and like to relax when they come home and in order to relax, peace and quiet is desirable. You may have had very accommodating neighbours in the past - or very deaf ones - and this guy may not be unreasonable.

I'm just bloody glad we were able to afford a place in the country - the noisiest things we have to deal with now are new-born lambs and the dawn chorus!

[Sniper]

Talk about thread dredging. BTW, MSTRS, did you ever sort him?

[MSTRS]

Old thread - more or less a dead issue now. However, just to clarify....the neighbour is a white guy about 50. He is married. Their only visitors are their grown son, so I assume he has no friends. He is a bully, cos he knew my wife & I were both out (he thought my son was on his own - but drum tutor was there) so tried to intimidate our lad. Put his foot in the door so Zac couldn't close it. Told him that the 'noise' was disturbing him so he couldn't concentrate on his work (he was mowing his lawns for fecks sake). Zac would not be intimidated & told the guy to "Fuck off". We are not unreasonable people & appreciate that we have neighbours on 4 sides (if you count across the street). We have spoken to all the neighbours up to 3 houses away & none have a problem. It is just this guy. Strangely, he doesn't complain to my wife or I, just tries to bully the young fella. I am proud to know that Zac won't roll over to this guy. Since being stood up to, we've not heard a dickybird from this wanker.
Just an aside - we have been here 6 years & never a problem until this guy moved in about a year ago. We have had one social gathering (wasn't really a party as I understand the term) and with no warning this guy sent noise control around at 11.30 on a Saturday night. Noise control stood at our front door & said "What noise? Our complainant must be a right tosser".

[Wolf]

Hah good thing he's finally shut up, then.

My uncle Ray had a brilliant idea for neighbours you don't like - dig out the electric guitar, crank up the amp to full noise and...








... practise your scales!

That's the secret to total mind-fucking payback. If you play a tune of any description, even if the person hates the song or the genre, they can at least appreciate it being played well - but no one likes or appreciates scales (apparently Beethoven did but that was probably a side effect of his mother having syphillis when he was born)

[MSTRS]

Hah good thing he's finally shut up, then.

My uncle Ray had a brilliant idea for neighbours you don't like - dig out the electric guitar, crank up the amp to full noise and...
... practise your scales!

That's the secret to total mind-fucking payback.
Scales are good....full noise is better......2x electric guitars AND the drums is almost the best. But Zac's latest music wish is to learn the.......BAGPIPES. That will not be beaten for neighbourliness.

[Lias]

Let me move into your place for a week and I'll teach him what REAL neighbours from hell are like. Some tips from my flatting days:

Firstly, stereo cranked up ultra loud, in short blasts every 30 minutes until you goto bed/as soon as you get up.. Like 1 song.. Long enough for him to get woken up but so that its unlikely that noise control will turn up and hear it. Experiment, found out what type of music he cant stand and play that. Anything with pounding drums is probably a good start.

Secondly, buy a high powered spotlight.. Randomly aim it through his curtains at strange times of the night.

If noise control come around, simply ignore them.. Just dont answer the door, or if you do answer the door try and look large and intimidating, carrying a machete or spiked club helps. We used to keep a huge whore of a machete by the door of our flat for just this purpose. Make noise control afraid to come onto your property without an armed offenders escourt, without ever actually doing something that can get you arrested.

Other things to do that are are pushing the legal boundaries (some may be illegal, IANAL after all), but are guaranteed to annoy the piss out of him.

Launching fireworks at his house (IE roman candles etc)
Scattering small pieces of broken glass over his lawn
Spraying his lawn/plants with weedkiller or diesel in the middle of the night. You can get creative with making diesel artwork on his lawn.
Deflate his car tyres without damaging them.
Make a compost heap, and randomly throw spadefuls of compost over his washing / house / car
Make sure you throw every single last ciggy butt smoked by anyone at your house over his fence.
Buy a vicious dog (preferrably a legal variation on the "banned" fighting dogs, some of the close relatives of Fila's for example are 100% legal in NZ whilst still being incrediably lethal fighting dogs). Teach the dog to growl at that neighbour, and teach him to shit on his lawn.

Thinks that are definitly illegal:
Slash his tyres
Superglue his car/house keyholes
Expanding foam up his exhaust pipe
Whip up a flyer that says the guy is a sex offender / pedophile, print off a few hundred and put them in every letterbox within a few blocks.
Take potshots at any pets he may have with a decent .22 air rifle.

You can get endlessly creative really if you want to be a true neighbour from hell.

[yungatart]

The offending drummer did want to Roundup his front lawn with "I love the drummer!" Thought that was a bit obvious. We had a few biker friends around to pull wheelies as they left. Funny thing is I got woken up by THEIR alarm clock at 6.20 one Saturday morning-I should have complained but..
My dear old mum taught me that revenge is a dish best eaten cold and my Dad says all things come to those who wait.
Now the young fella wants to learn Bagpipes i might get my revenge eh?
BTW - he doesn't practice for hours at a time, plays his electric guitar unamped and plays keyboard thru headphones. Normally does drum practice some time between 4pm and 6pm week days and as he ssees fit in the w/e- never before 10am and never after 7pm. Very considerate wouldn't you say?

[Storm]

The offending drummer did want to Roundup his front lawn with "I love the drummer!" Thought that was a bit obvious. We had a few biker friends around to pull wheelies as they left. Funny thing is I got woken up by THEIR alarm clock at 6.20 one Saturday morning-I should have complained but..
My dear old mum taught me that revenge is a dish best eaten cold and my Dad says all things come to those who wait.
Now the young fella wants to learn Bagpipes i might get my revenge eh?
BTW - he doesn't practice for hours at a time, plays his electric guitar unamped and plays keyboard thru headphones. Normally does drum practice some time between 4pm and 6pm week days and as he ssees fit in the w/e- never before 10am and never after 7pm. Very considerate wouldn't you say?


Encourage your boy with all your heart. He want to learn the fine scottish instrument, then encourage him. I can say from personal experience that theres nothing like a sunday morning 7am wakeup call, from the top of the house.

[ManDownUnder]

Get up early,

Fill the mower...
Start the mower...
Set the revs to a conservative level... it'll last longer
Put the mower right by the fence - that part nearest their house
Go out

[Skyryder]

The guy may have hearing like mine - I have really sensitive hearing and hear things that most other people can't, and I know for a fact that drumming would 'get to me' so to speak. Is this guy only complaining about the one hour lesson on a Saturday morning? If so, he is being a bit unreasonable, but does your son practice during the week? If he is drumming for a few hours a day as well, then sorry, but I'd be complaining too.

When we lived in town I could hear this thumping bass at 1am and knew there was nothing I could do about it unless I found out where it was coming from. I got dressed and went for a walk to track it down - believe it or not, it was coming from 800m away (I know the distance because I worked in the next street) - it was the bar at the police station!

We were also driven mad by the Jake the Muss wanna-be across the road who would crank the stereo up at 6pm on a Friday and it would still be going at 10am the following morning. The music was so loud our windows would vibrate! Noise control were too scared to do anything, so we had to put up with it until he got evicted for not paying his rent.

Some noises affect some people more than others - I can't bear the sound of wind turbines whereas my husband can't even hear them. I hear a friend's pacemaker ticking - he can't even hear it! So if your neighbour has hearing like mine, then I can sympathise with him. I used to dread coming home from work because I'd be subjected to noise from at least four or five neighbours - the guy next door like to take three hours to mow a pocket-handkerchief sized lawn; the guy over the back had the radio tuned to sports all year round and liked to sit outside and listen to it; Jake always had his stereo going; his neighbour would try and drown him out, and the old lady across the road would have the tv on so loud you could turn the sound down on yours.

People work hard and like to relax when they come home and in order to relax, peace and quiet is desirable. You may have had very accommodating neighbours in the past - or very deaf ones - and this guy may not be unreasonable.

I'm just bloody glad we were able to afford a place in the country - the noisiest things we have to deal with now are new-born lambs and the dawn chorus!

I know exactly where you are coming from on this. Use to work with woodworking machinery a few years back and one thing that use to realy upset me is the neighbour mowing their lawn on a Sunday. Noise five days a week. Noise on Saturday no problem there. Can be the only day people get their work done, lawns, chainsaw etc. But Sunday, even for half and hour use to rag me up. Then there was the fucking rooster that use to start crowing at five am in the morning. By the end of daylight saving I was a wreck. Kid you not. So if the neighbour is suffering from an overabundance on noise then he may well have a gripe.

However if it is only for an hour a week as the post suggests then he is being unreasonable. Just hope it does not blow up in any way

Beemer you may be interested in THE NIGHTINGALE FLOOR by Lian Hearn The main charactor Tomasu has acute hearing, among other talents.

http://www.sfsite.com/10b/an138.htm

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Get up early,

Fill the mower...
Start the mower...
Set the revs to a conservative level... it'll last longer
Put the mower right by the fence - that part nearest their house
Go out

Dumb. Recipe for a disaster. People have been known to kill due to 'audio intimidation.'


Skyryder

[Beemer]

I know exactly where you are coming from on this. Use to work with woodworking machinery a few years back and one thing that use to realy upset me is the neighbour mowing their lawn on a Sunday. Noise five days a week. Noise on Saturday no problem there. Can be the only day people get their work done, lawns, chainsaw etc. But Sunday, even for half and hour use to rag me up. Then there was the fucking rooster that use to start crowing at five am in the morning. By the end of daylight saving I was a wreck. Kid you not. So if the neighbour is suffering from an overabundance on noise then he may well have a gripe.

However if it is only for an hour a week as the post suggests then he is being unreasonable. Just hope it does not blow up in any way

Beemer you may be interested in THE NIGHTINGALE FLOOR by Lian Hearn The main charactor Tomasu has acute hearing, among other talents.

http://www.sfsite.com/10b/an138.htm

Skyryder

Thanks Skyryder, I'll check that out! I know what you mean about noise at work and noise at home - I worked in a call centre for a while and having headphones on with someone yabbering in your ear all day was really tiring. I would get home and within minutes someone would turn their stereo on and I would get so pissed off it wasn't funny! And then the bastards over the back bought a rooster and left it there when they moved! Damn thing would start crowing at 4.30am and then crow all afternoon as well. I rang the council and they reckoned it was legal to keep one inside the town boundaries - even though their animal control officers said it wasn't - so they wouldn't do anything about it. I contacted animal control myself and the guy tried for three weeks to catch it. In the end the SPCA lent me a magpie trap and I got it. Originally the plan was to give it to a friend in the country, but I was so irritated with it by then I told the guy to wring its bloody neck!

Nice here where we live now - the only sounds today are lambs bleating, the neighbour trimming his hedge with electric clippers (sounds like a sewing machine!) and bird song - bliss!

[NC]

Dumb. Recipe for a disaster. People have been known to kill due to 'audio intimidation.'


Skyryder
Earplugs :violin:

[Ixion]

..
Nice here where we live now - the only sounds today are lambs bleating, the neighbour trimming his hedge with electric clippers (sounds like a sewing machine!) and bird song - bliss!

You must have quieter birds than me. Noisy little bastiges start up before dawn and make enough noise to wake the dead. Is actually surprising if you measure it how loud birds are. Was a case years ago when some Grundy complained about the noise from a motor-racing circuit in UK (Goodwood ?). Noice bods brought out their gear, and measured noise. Reported that loudest noise was teh birds.

'Tis not just the volume of noise, it is also the sort of noise. We like birds so we don't notice it. There's a guy lives somewhere near us and has a two stroke. He must start work early and Mrs Ixion complains about the noise waking her at 6am (never seen it, just heard it ). Never wakes me, I like the sound of two strokes.

[Beemer]

You must have quieter birds than me. Noisy little bastiges start up before dawn and make enough noise to wake the dead. Is actually surprising if you measure it how loud birds are. Was a case years ago when some Grundy complained about the noise from a motor-racing circuit in UK (Goodwood ?). Noice bods brought out their gear, and measured noise. Reported that loudest noise was teh birds.

'Tis not just the volume of noise, it is also the sort of noise. We like birds so we don't notice it. There's a guy lives somewhere near us and has a two stroke. He must start work early and Mrs Ixion complains about the noise waking her at 6am (never seen it, just heard it ). Never wakes me, I like the sound of two strokes.

So true, when we first moved out to the country we found we were waking at first light because of the birds! We got used to it pretty quickly but I still notice how noisy it is at dusk when they settle into the trees for the night. But as you say, because we like the sound of the birds, it doesn't irritate us.

Shows what kind of neighbours we have - when we moved in they said they hoped their daughters' piano playing in the afternoons didn't disturb us! They are Brethren so it's just a piano, no amp or anythng, and both girls can play really well, so we're more than happy on the odd occasions that we can hear it - which is only by the boundary, out by the garage!

[myvice]

Fun with neighbours:
A truck of Zoodoo might be fun but a friendly dump truck driver can do all sorts of nasty things for a case of beer.
Gardens don’t like Round Up.
Get a bunch of Hells Angels to turn up for a coffee one Sunday.
If you can, get their E-mail (if they have one) and send it to every porn site you can find.
Mouse trap in the letterbox.
Water balloons filled with paint.
Claymore on the doorstep.
Tip off the cops "it’s a P lab"
Fill the house with NO2, will keep them happy.
C4.
Make up a fake "We will be putting 40,000 volt pylons through your property on the 7/3/06" letter, then they will leave.
Keep free-range chickens.
Keep free-range pitbulls.
Buy a digeridoo.
Better yet, bagpipes!
More C4.
Jog naked.
Sheet metal sculpture with an angle grinder.
RC helicopter.
Street drags.
Local hero parade.
Cuban death squad.
Burning cross lawn ornament.
S.A.M. battery.
Free range howler monkeys.
Salvation Army bands 4am wake up call.
20/20 on their doorstep.
Super glue on the door handle.
Turn the water off.
Turn the power off.
Have Coronation St cancelled.
Convince the local Jehovah Witless church that they need saving.
Buy a V twin with open headers.
Convince the local Mormon Church that they need saving.
S.A.S hostage training house.
Train a band of "killer" ferrets to attack their feet every morning.
Send to Oz for a carton of fire ants and build a nest on their back lawn (bull ants are also a good option)
Build a little fortress in the long grass and have long loud discussions with your imaginary friend on how to rid the earth of their fiendish regime.
Build a little fortress and just sing loudly to your imaginary friend (out of key)
Train a band of girl scouts to sing "buy our biscuits, buy our biscuits!!" from out of your little fortress (out of key!)
Move your fortress to their front doorstep.
Convince the local church of Satin that they need saving.
Get another 200 or so cats.
Keep bats.
Paint yourself with camo paint and hide in the middle of the front lawn, with binoculars trained on the house.
Join the RX7 club.
Get the local kids into motoX.

Don’t ask me, I don’t know.
(I put this on another thread but it might help)