Interesting development...

[Eurodave]

So i was in at my local friendly WOF station getting the Guzzi legal & he advised me a couple of things.....
Plod are currently photographing vehicles nationwide so they can match the pic to their database.....:shit: [more on this later] & trailers are also now listed according to their dimensions....:shit:
Anyway I took the Guzzi & Unigo trailer to Dunedin & back last week & what did I see? Plod doing just that, sitting in a foldup chair beside plodmobile with a hand held digital camera pointing at the back of vehicles as they passed by!!!!! HHmmmmm WATCH OUT ,BIG BROTHER IS GETTING A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY METHINKS!! [Of course this only affects people who are 'creative" with their number plates:shutup:]

[Hitcher]

The only difference between a white 2006 Toyota Corolla and another white 2006 Toyota Corolla is (wait for it, drum roll please) the rego!

[MsKABC]

[Of course this only affects people who are 'creative" with their number plates:shutup:]

I know someone like that ;) It is easy enough to do with trailers. Have the police really got time to be putting together such a database though??

[Eurodave]

I know someone like that ;) It is easy enough to do with trailers. Have the police really got time to be putting together such a database though??

Apparently so......

[Eurodave]

The only difference between a white 2006 Toyota Corolla and another white 2006 Toyota Corolla is (wait for it, drum roll please) the rego!

Youre missing the point buddy, Big Brother is alive & well & watching you even closer...

[Number One]

I wonder if they are going to be going through their databases to assign and award all those speed camera tickets of bikes taken front on....

Would that be possible I wonder - maybe if they could match the colour and riders gear....

Hmmm might be time to repaint the SV like I planned and new gear sounds in order now too :whistle:

[Winston001]

I don't get it. Why are they doing this?

[Eurodave]

I don't get it. Why are they doing this?

To dish out more tickets & increase their revenue collection from people like me...

[ManDownUnder]

I don't get it. Why are they doing this?

At a guess I'd say it's a step towards automatic validation of numberplates. Car goes under camera, which does some whizz bang stuff measuring the size of the vehicle reading the numberplate, looking it up on the database, matching it to the dimensions it has on file and saying "that's bad" if a Subaru Justy numberplate goes down the road attached to a 500 series Mercedes

The bastards might be doing somethign to stop theives!


To dish out more tickets & increase their revenue collection from people like me...

ummm... ok. Other than detecting theft... measuring your vehicle increases your chance of getting a ticket... how?

[MsKABC]

ummm... ok. Other than detecting theft... measuring your vehicle increases your chance of getting a ticket... how?

I think maybe what he was alluding to was the situation where people have 2 trailers, but only one is registered. They swap the number plate back and forth.

The benefits you describe are certainly worthwhile though :)

[awayatc]

Back in the 80's in the Netherlands every car would get it's picture taken every few weeks or so....
Both hidden stationary camera's and mufty cars.....Anywhere.....
If the database showed you were out of registration or so, you would get a ticket in the mail......
So yes, big brother tactics can go so much further still.....
Something to look forward to........

[Max Preload]

Have the police really got time to be putting together such a database though??

Of course. All cases involving serious crime have been solved and there is no more being committed.

[MsKABC]

Of course. All cases involving serious crime have been solved and there is no more being committed.

I shall sleep well tonight then ;)

[Number One]

Of course. All cases involving serious crime have been solved and there is no more being committed.
Hmmm I know some people that could help with that :whistle:

[Eurodave]

I think maybe what he was alluding to was the situation where people have 2 trailers, but only one is registered. They swap the number plate back and forth.

The benefits you describe are certainly worthwhile though :)

I can neither confirm or deny that there may or may not be 2 or more trailers up my drive & indeed several motorcycles....

[portokiwi]

I like it.... If you are doing the law thing then whats the problem..... Might get some of these suspect trailers of the road, Even better cars of the road.:2guns:
Nothing wrong with Big Brother watching you:2guns:

[Eurodave]

Nothing wrong with Big Brother watching you:2guns:

Famous last words mate!

[BM-GS]

UK plod do the same sort of thing, just sitting by the side of main roads snaping away, seeing who's going where & collecting albums of regos.

Talking about it to a neighbour (who just happened to be in the plod-camera division) they got a good idea of which crims were where on a daily basis and were able to pin a load of local crime on out-of-towners, track them down and take them to court. Presumably other regions did the same with our crims.

This can be a good thing, and I suppose that if one lives a blameless life then this may actually come along to help on occasion. If you take a flexile approach to the law then it may prove inconvenient. I would hope that all the time & effort when on something more worthwhile than pinging people with 2 functioning trailers and one plate, though.

[Skyryder]

Probably some kind of new hi-tec system they want the govt to purchase for them and they are doing a bit of research on thier needs. That they have not gone public on this as they did with the tazers is pretty good indication that it will not be for the public good or at best have not hired a public relations firm to push it on to the public as benificial to public. :Oi: Who knows with Key. Changes his mind as much as most change their undies.


Skyryder

[Mikkel]

Nothing wrong with Big Brother watching you:2guns:


Famous last words mate!

Nothing wrong with the police enforcing rules regarding registration and WOF - it's much more important than speeding tickets IMO.

Plenty wrong with the police watching you - not your car or trailer, but your person and your life - without having reasonable suspicion of serious crimes being committed.

[portokiwi]

Famous last words mate!

Nothing to hide....... So no worries:rolleyes:
Must be for the good of all man kind:niceone:

[Eurodave]

Plenty wrong with the police watching you - not your car or trailer, but your person and your life - without having reasonable suspicion of serious crimes being committed.

Yeah, wot he said ,this is just the thin edge of the wedge..... wheres a decent civil libetarian when you need him?

[Mikkel]

Nothing to hide....... So no worries:rolleyes:
Must be for the good of all man kind:niceone:

Nothing to hide... well, that may be so. Personally I have nothing to hide as well, but I treasure my privacy and the sanctity thereof.

If you entertain such ideas I would warmly recommend reading Ben Elton's Blind Faith. A world where you are expected to share everything with everybody is pretty horrific.

[Number One]

A world where you are expected to share everything with everybody is pretty horrific.

I agree :bleh:

[portokiwi]

:hug: We live in peace:hug:
:jerry::jerry::lol:

[Eurodave]

So, I take it that no one else has observed [hand held digital]camera happy Plod anywhere else in NZ recently then? Am I being paranoid or are they just out to get me?:laugh:

[sunhuntin]

I think maybe what he was alluding to was the situation where people have 2 trailers, but only one is registered. They swap the number plate back and forth.

The benefits you describe are certainly worthwhile though :)

ex of mine did that with i think 2 trailers. one was home built [and was most often used for yard work] and the other was used to transport two propane bottles for filling. the home built was registered, but the propane [also home built] wasnt. the plate just got switched over as needed, lol. for a 5 or 10 min trip around the corner, wasnt too bad. lol.

but then canadian cops are either relaxed or thick. riding back from a get together, ex took his pudding bowl lid off for a few mins. spot some cops up the road, so he plonks it back on and is unable to do the strap up with one hand. so we get to the cops with the chin strap under the helmet and very obviously not done up. that wasnt even mentioned! LOL. they just asked where we were headed and wished us a safe journey.

[Ixion]

But even back in the day , when such things were more or less the norm, wise men made sure that the donor and donee were reasonably similiar. - eg Triumph to Triumph, Matchless to AJS. Not BSA Bantam to Squariel. or at least swapped the tanks over so the marque stayed the same

That would still work today as far as cameras are concerned. One Suzuki to most plod is much the same as another Suzuki. Until you compare the VIN plates.

Trailers, yes. hard to tell one form another isn't it. And they don't have VIN plates.

Of course some older bikes don't have VIN plates either. And the frame numbers can be very hard to read when they've been painted over with twenty coats of thick paint.

[Renegade]

there is a program i saw on discovery channel with a police car fitted with a camera and as vehicles go past the police car camera the rego plates of all the vehicles get cross referenced with the database and can locate wanted and stolen vehicles.

[Ducman]

I was stopped at a check point on the Corro, police took a photo of the back of my bike. Hope it's new owner doesn't have any trouble.:whistle:

[pete376403]

"They came first for the boi racers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a boi racer;
And then they came for the WoF-less cars, And I didn’t speak up because my car had a WoF;
And then they came for the trailers, And I didn’t speak up because I don't tow a trailer;
And then . . . they came for bikes . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up for the bikers."
apologies to Pastor Martin Niemoller

[DingoZ]

there is a program i saw on discovery channel with a police car fitted with a camera and as vehicles go past the police car camera the rego plates of all the vehicles get cross referenced with the database and can locate wanted and stolen vehicles.

You mean this system....???


http://www.yikers.com/video_insane_plate_recognition_system.html

[Skyryder]

A world where you are expected to share everything with everybody is pretty horrific.

The hippies of the sixties thought it was cool.....:love:.......until they found out that their guru had been ripping them off.:bash:

Skyyrder

[Renegade]

You mean this system....???


http://www.yikers.com/video_insane_plate_recognition_system.html

thats the bugger

[Laxi]

what business do the police have picking up stolen cars/ unlicensed drivers etc???:stupid: as for the big brother issues i put them in the too hard basket along with j.f.k, bigfoot and u.f.os