Little Biff Is A Little Soldier [Archive]

Biff

25th February 2005, 16:14

"Hello Mr Biff, could you please come and collect Little Biff from school please? He fell over at break time and has hurt his arm."

"Sure, I'm on my way"

Hurt his bloody arm!! His arm looked like it has been put through a mangle. Snapped in bloody half more like. Broken elbow and possible hairline fracture to his lower arm. He's all plastered up now and munching a pizza on the sofa.

All he could say when I picked him up was, "Does this mean we can't go swimming in the morrow?" (his word for tomorrow).

No tears, just a grimace. My little soldier. Bless him xxxx

crashe

25th February 2005, 16:23

Biff

25th February 2005, 16:29

yee gawds..... thats not good at all.
Did you get him to hospital then they told you it was broken?
Its not good of the school......
If it happened on the jungle gym, was there a teacher on duty?
If not why not?
As that is where most accidents happen at school.
They tend to fall off it at the wrong angle and land awkwardly..

Hope he is ok now and the elbow isnt hurting him too much.

Give him a painkiller of some sort about half an hour before he goes to bed...
that way the painkiller is just starting to work and he will then drop off to sleep.

Monday morning go to the school principal and tell him/her that you aren’t happy with the supervision in the school grounds....

Teacher saw it happen, "in slow motion". I don’t have a gripe with the school, kids will be kids. Apparently they didn’t tell me he'd broken it as they didn’t want to panic me (!?), and as I said I would come straight away anyway...

As a newbie here I was advised to I should take him to the doctors first (waste of bloody time), doctor then sent me to a local hospital which turned out to be private. Had the X rays done there ($$), then I was told I'd have to take him into ChCh city because they couldn't plaster him there (more time wasted). Live & learn.

Thanks for the advice :niceone:

Rainbow Wizard

25th February 2005, 16:32

Little Wizard befell a similar fate yesterday. Arsed over in a backwards race and broke one of the forearm bones "greenstick" so is not as bad as Little Biff's bust. He's plastered now and would have been lopsided for todays 100m sprint final (he won a heat yesterday). He's usually a grief merchant but I guess doing it at school he felt he had to be tough. Well done that lad.

MikeL

25th February 2005, 16:33

Monday morning go to the school principal and tell him/her that you arent happy with the supervision in the school grounds....

Or you could wrap him up in cotton-wool all the time...
Do you really blame the school/principal/anyone? Some accidents will happen and unless you want to deny kids the chance to have fun and explore the world the odd broken bone is the price you/they have to pay.
Do you seriously believe that having a teacher on duty will prevent all accidents? If you took your child to a playground and he had an accident, would you blame yourself? The local council?
Kids make mistakes. That's how they learn...

Joni

25th February 2005, 16:37

Sorry to hear your little one got hurt... he sounds like a tough little guy! Children are great.... :sunny:
Hope he heals quickly with no problems!

Good luck Biff.... :)

crashe

25th February 2005, 16:39

Or you could wrap him up in cotton-wool all the time...
Do you really blame the school/principal/anyone? Some accidents will happen and unless you want to deny kids the chance to have fun and explore the world the odd broken bone is the price you/they have to pay.
Do you seriously believe that having a teacher on duty will prevent all accidents? If you took your child to a playground and he had an accident, would you blame yourself? The local council?
Kids make mistakes. That's how they learn...

The point I was trying to make, is on the jungle gym area there are so many kids and some tend to get a bit rough.... so they need to have a teacher on duty in that particular area.

Yes kids will be kids, but if you can prevent an accident happening then lets do it.

The principal needs to be informed of the type of break, so that the teachers are also informed so little Biff dont hurt it any more til it heals properly.

Some schools dont have that policy to watch certain areas, while others do.

sAsLEX

25th February 2005, 17:03

The point I was trying to make, is on the jungle gym area there are so many kids and some tend to get a bit rough.... so they need to have a teacher on duty in that particular area.

Yes kids will be kids, but if you can prevent an accident happening then lets do it.

The principal needs to be informed of the type of break, so that the teachers are also informed so little Biff dont hurt it any more til it heals properly.

Some schools dont have that policy to watch certain areas, while others do.

they dont even have real jungle gyms anymore, where are the forts and shit of yester year where a fall could of been fatal, replaced with plastic shitty boring 2ft high excuses for playgrounds.

Shit like this is breeding our race weaker as kids get there hands held and aren't allowed to learn on there own behalf. oh poor tommy got a cut quick to the hospital for his shots, no wonder there is shit like MSA or whatever that super bug is called

If it dont kill you it only makes you stronger/wiser

Hitcher

25th February 2005, 17:07

Another cool thing about being a kid these days is when you break limbs and shit, you get COLOURED casts! And colour choices! Woo hoo!

Motu

25th February 2005, 17:17

My boy broke his arm last year,or maybe the year before - it's his 12th birthday today - but it was a totaly bizzare stressful day for me.

My mother was in and out of hospital being diagnosed with cancer - then one afternoon I get a call...''can you come and pick me up? they can't do anything with me,they are sending me home to die'' Oh shit,I was expecting this,but it's something you don't want to hear..ever.I'm at work so I reach to phone my wife to see if she can go and pick up my mother and take her home,she has been on standby waiting for just such a call for weeks - but as I reach out the phone rings,and it's my wife! ''Hey,I was just going to call you,can you go and pick up Mum? she wants to go home''....'well,that's not really possible right now,I'm in an ambulance on the way to Starship - Jack has broken his arm' WHAAAT??

So I jump in my van,race off to Middlemore,pick up my upset mother and take her to her sisters place in Otara...then after work go out and pick her up and take her home to Waiuku - I practicaly dump her at her place,just make sure she's ok and then race off to the brand new Starship to see my boy.He has just come out of the theatre with pins and wires in his arm,he's awake enough to say hi.We get my wife set up to spend the night with him and I take my younger son home with me.

Sorry for the thread highjack,but the day my son broke his arm is burned into my brain as a day from the twilight zone.

Skunk

25th February 2005, 17:40

Another cool thing about being a kid these days is when you break limbs and shit, you get COLOURED casts! And colour choices!And for crybaby adults like me... :yeah:
Hope he got a coloured one and is OK (in the long term...) :yeah:

jrandom

25th February 2005, 17:42

oh poor tommy got a cut quick to the hospital for his shots, no wonder there is shit like MSA or whatever that super bug is called

I gotta idea.

As we all know, people is dumb, right?

Howsabout we improve the evolution of smartness by shooting everyboddy in the head when they born, and then we lets the ones that still passes bursary before they turn 18 breed. Rinse and repeat.

sAsLEX

25th February 2005, 17:58

I gotta idea.

As we all know, people is dumb, right?

Howsabout we improve the evolution of smartness by shooting everyboddy in the head when they born, and then we lets the ones that still passes bursary before they turn 18 breed. Rinse and repeat.

would work except they have replaced bursary with NCEA and even if you dont complete the exam you get a passs or whatever they call it these days

jrandom

25th February 2005, 18:01

would work except they have replaced bursary with NCEA and even if you dont complete the exam you get a passs or whatever they call it these days

Well, shoot 'em twice to make up for it, then.

Coyote

25th February 2005, 18:05

Children are great.... :sunny:

Aren't we just :p

Hope your kid heals up quick Biff :niceone:

Coyote

25th February 2005, 18:07

Another cool thing about being a kid these days is when you break limbs and shit, you get COLOURED casts! And colour choices! Woo hoo!
Why was I not informed of this?!

Biff

25th February 2005, 20:17

Coloured casts?!
I know white is a colour, but it's a very boring one. Hopefully he'll get a more exciting one when he returns for a re-fit this time next week.

Hitcher

25th February 2005, 20:26

I gotta idea.

As we all know, people is dumb, right?

Howsabout we improve the evolution of smartness by shooting everyboddy in the head when they born, and then we lets the ones that still passes bursary before they turn 18 breed. Rinse and repeat.
Sperm swims just as fast at the shallow end of the gene pool as it does at the deep end...

Sparky Bills

25th February 2005, 20:26

What a little ledgend!!!

Make sure you get a light coloured cast, so people can sigh it!!!

sels1

25th February 2005, 21:50

Sorry for the thread highjack,but the day my son broke his arm is burned into my brain as a day from the twilight zone.

cripes mate - sorry to hear it.

And regards to little Biff also.

Our local primary wont do school camps any more - too many OSH hazards. When my kids were there they did heaps and all the kids got a lot from it.
I think you have to accept there will always be some kid somewhere that will find a way to break his arm no matter what precautions you take. The rest shouldnt be denied the challenges and opportunities for development that outdoor activities present. Dealing with an element of risk is an essential part of our makeup. (and I dont just mean motorcyclists!)

Slipstream

25th February 2005, 23:01

Another cool thing about being a kid these days is when you break limbs and shit, you get COLOURED casts! And colour choices! Woo hoo!

So did we...it was called felts :p

Slipstream

25th February 2005, 23:04

All he could say when I picked him up was, "Does this mean we can't go swimming in the morrow?" (his word for tomorrow).

No tears, just a grimace. My little soldier. Bless him xxxx

Glad the little tyke is A OK ...Not looking forward to the first bone breakage in my household :( Already had my youngest bite through her tongue. Looks like she's had her tongue pierced now *sigh*

Kids eh, what are ya gonna do...?

Jackrat

26th February 2005, 10:12

Guess that's why they call it break time huh!!
Sorry couldn't help it.

Anyway,I have this theory ya' see.
If a kid damages themselfs heaps as a kid, then they don't damage themselfs as much as adults.
My own dauther used to knock herself about a fair bit, but now she's older she seems to have got over it an the last few years have been accident free.
I on the other hand never really hurt myself as a kid,but after I turned thirty I got into it in a big way.
Or maybe it was the same falls but less bounce,who knows.
Orange casts look neat.

jrandom

26th February 2005, 10:16

If a kid damages themselfs heaps as a kid, then they don't damage themselfs as much as adults.

Hmmm, good theory... dunno if it's accurate, though. I never broke much as a kid, and I haven't started yet.

Mrs Random, on the other hand, was always splintering bones up as a young 'un, and just last night she tripped and fell while running and shunted her kneecap pretty bad, she's still not walking proper.

Wonko

26th February 2005, 10:31

It brings a tear to my eye how little kids can do these days. I'm a kid at heart and a walk through my old school had me wondering where it all went wrong with the OSH and PC rules. The old wooden fort used to have a chain climbing wall about 16 feet high that you could climb up and then flip over the top rail. it was fun at 6 and at 16 bit gone by the time I was 23. They also removed the rope swings and replaced the bark with the soft shreded rubber. Now what are the boys going to throw at each other?? The metal climbing frames are gone, everything is "safe". Everyone is "stupid" more like. How are the kids meant to grow up and know, and explore their limits if they can't have fun and do some damage to themselves?

Biff

26th February 2005, 10:31

I never broke a single bone as a kid. As an adult - broken nose twice (rugby), broken finger (forgot to keep finger in while extending hand in a fist shape in order to make contact with another guy), broken knuckle (ditto, different occasion), broken ankle (rugby).

I'm sending a letter to the school on Monday as the principle appears to be shitting himself (3 phone calls yesterday on answering machine) thinking that I'm going to complain. The letter will simply state that I hold no-one responsible but myself and my wife for having sex. Thirty three seconds of madness on our part which resulted in Ms Biff producing said offspring. Kids must be allowed to learn. As hard a lesson as it is.

Thanks to all for your concern and best wishes.

TonyB

26th February 2005, 13:23

Biff Baff and Rainbow Wizard- hope the lads have a speedy recovery. Must be a bit freaky to see your little one 'broken' like that. Not so bad when it's yourself, but when it's your kids....
As for the wrapping kids in cotton wool debate. I agree it's all gone a bit far. Kids have to learn to deal with dangerous situations while they can still bounce, otherwise they'll really do some damage later on. Where to draw the line though? Evey parent is going to have a different idea, and I guess schools must be paranoid about this sort of thing. Biff Baff is pretty relaxed about it, while others would be looking for someones head, so I guess the schools have to cater for the latter.

Aaron

26th February 2005, 16:27

Sorry to hear about Little Biff... Biff Baff :doctor:

The use of 'morrow' is just cool :D

Shit like this is breeding our race weaker as kids get there hands held and aren't allowed to learn on there own behalf.
Amen to that!!

Gen

26th February 2005, 16:44

Ahh children :)
I'm surprised that I never broke anything, considering the play equipment we had, and what we got up to with it! We had a real fireman's pole, about three stories high, a slide about ten metres high :) Mind you a friend of mine almost pushed her friend off the fireman's pole, so perhaps it is'nt such a good idea.When it comes down to it, a broken arm really isn't a big deal, it happened very rarely when I was a child, and when it did, the person who broke their arm was very excited at having people sign the cast.
I'm just sorry for the child when it happens cause it hurts!
Win win situation really :)

hobdar

26th February 2005, 17:52

Man I hope your little one heals up good, gotta a 4 year old and he thinks he's bullet proof as do most, lots of things to look forward to.....

Hope the pain doesn't get too much for the little fella....... :doctor:

ManDownUnder

28th February 2005, 07:25

Good on ya little biff. I love the innocence of kids.

I hate seeing them get hurt but then it is all part of growing up (not getting hurt that bad too often though...).

Good luck to the little man getting well, and good luck explaining why he can't swim at the mo... maybe just paddle a bit.

Timber020

28th February 2005, 17:00

Stevo

28th February 2005, 23:51

cripes mate - sorry to hear it.

And regards to little Biff also.

Our local primary wont do school camps any more - too many OSH hazards. When my kids were there they did heaps and all the kids got a lot from it.
I think you have to accept there will always be some kid somewhere that will find a way to break his arm no matter what precautions you take. The rest shouldnt be denied the challenges and opportunities for development that outdoor activities present. Dealing with an element of risk is an essential part of our makeup. (and I dont just mean motorcyclists!)

Sad eh? I'd hate to be a teacher these days. I remeber our school camps were awesome. These days tho if anything happens to little Jimmy or little Sally the teachers are liable to be sued or somefink. Sadder still are the ones who would want to sue!!!!!
Why does everyone take the fun out of everything these days?????

Stevo

28th February 2005, 23:52

Biff

1st March 2005, 07:35

I work in a dangerous industry and kids that are exposed to danger (ie farm kids) are so much safer as adults in the same line of work that were brought up in the town (not that its always safe.)

Good on you for not looking for an imaginary scapegoat at the school, there need to be more kiwis like you about! :banana:

Thanks for the comments Timber, but I'm actually Welsh. I arrived here on banana boat last October. This is possibly why I feel I need to make it absolutely clear to the school that I in no way hold them responsible. This is primarily because the UK has gone so overboard with regards to being risk adverse that to a large extent it's taken the fun out of being a kid. Local authorities and the government as so scared of being sued or held accountable for peoples injuries that they'd rather ban things completely. It's so very sad.

I'm with you guys. We should fight this bloody nanny state attitude that's creeping at every opportunity.

ManDownUnder

1st March 2005, 07:52

Thanks for the comments Timber, but I'm actually Welsh. I arrived here on banana boat last October. This is possibly why I feel I need to make it absolutely clear to the school that I in no way hold them responsible. This is primarily because the UK has gone so overboard with regards to being risk adverse that to a large extent it's taken the fun out of being a kid. Local authorities and the government as so scared of being sued or held accountable for peoples injuries that they'd rather ban things completely. It's so very sad.

I'm with you guys. We should fight this bloody nanny state attitude that's creeping at every opportunity.

Agreed - check this out... http://www.realdemocracy.com/lawsuit.htm

A quick google on "+Lawsuit +playground" brought up a ton of stuff - I just grabbed one (that looks related) at random. They're removing playground equipment in case kids hurt themselves and cutting branches off trees so they can't be climbed!

YEESH. Watchn it folks, motorcycles a clearly dangerous things, and if the nanny state doesn't outlaw them soon there might even be an accident!

... I'll trey not to get started on this one...
MDU