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EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 16:23
Following on from the epic write-off thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=92282), it is starting to look like cancelling my claim with the insurance lot and doing the ZZR up myself is the way to go. Protecta insurance are charging me $1649 in excess. So, good readers of KB, the challenge is to get her back on the road for less than that.

Some wonderful people on here have offered to help out with the renovation project, so labour will be about $100 in beer and meat. Sexual favours not included, sorry Skidmark. I'm also figuring RB will charge for their assessment and general tyre-kicking duties.

The main issue is one of cosmetics. Everyone is saying streetfighter the bitch, so I'm going to need new clocks, headlight, mirrors and indicators. Substructure is buggered on the right side where she impacted, so that's going to have to be stripped out. How big a job is this realistically?

The suspension needs to be adjusted too, so that this NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. I'm not impressed with RB's assertion that "Ah, they're all that soft mate", but still, that's going to be another job but not vital.

RB also assert that the forks are bent, but if it's so subtle they can't tell without operating on her I'm going to assume that this too is a medium-term issue.

My work are giving me an emergency loan of $2k, so this can get seen to post-haste. :first: Obviously, if the decision is to fix her back up rather than write her off then it's easier to have the garage do it, but I'm buggered if I'm going to let them write her off!

Also, another question about the insurers. If they decide the bike is a write-off, can I cancel my claim? What will this do to my insurance? Getting a straight answer out of them is somewhat difficult. I've never had to deal with anything like this before, so any and all advice gratefully recieved.

Epic, epic props to TheStranger, Badger8 and everyone who's been advising me and offered to help out. This has been a horrible situation but the time has come to stop being sad about it and go kick some arse!

portokiwi
16th February 2009, 16:27
Shit I was with Protecta then they put the price up... That is why I went to Kiwi bike insurance who insured me with Swann.

Man that sucks

Madness
16th February 2009, 16:32
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EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 16:33
Lol :D It kinda is, innit?

Badger8
16th February 2009, 16:44
As you say, tis the cosmetics that are the problem.
Rip off fairings and assess subframe first would be my suggestion. There is always the possibility of a bit of muscle getting it straight-ish, and riding around with scuffed fairings.
If not straight-ish-able, that opens a whole new can of worms... Either rig up something to hold stock clocks, or that could get expensive tryin to go aftermarket, and become a bit of work. Indicators not too much trouble, and reasonably priced. Mirrors dirt cheap, but mounting may be interesting.

Forks i dont really know enough about myself. Apparently there's some guys in hamilton who do amazing things with them straightening wise, for reasonable prices. Definitely get the oil done though, that front end was like moist spongecake.

Would really need to strip her down and assess, and go from there i would think.

Mom
16th February 2009, 16:48
Protecta insurance are charging me $1649 in excess.


Eh? How much? How have they come up with that magic figure? That is the weirdest thing I have ever heard.

Dont know the ins and outs of how to cancel a claim, but PM Grahameeboy he may be able to help a bit with that question.

Seriously though, do you have thte breakdown of excess, it seems well, excessive to me.

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 17:47
Eh? How much? How have they come up with that magic figure? That is the weirdest thing I have ever heard.

Dont know the ins and outs of how to cancel a claim, but PM Grahameeboy he may be able to help a bit with that question.

Seriously though, do you have thte breakdown of excess, it seems well, excessive to me.
The insurance guy is treating me like a naive chick who's never had to deal with insurance types before. To be fair, he's absolutely right, but I resent the patronising and dismissiveness whenever I ask anything.

I would have been more enraged on the phone, but I was running on two and a half hours sleep, too much coffee and had just had 11NZA :shit: , so I was not at my best. Tomorrow I shall rejoin the struggle with all guns blazing...

Mom
16th February 2009, 17:51
The insurance guy is treating me like a naive chick who's never had to deal with insurance types before. To be fair, he's absolutely right, but I resent the patronising and dismissiveness whenever I ask anything.

I would have been more enraged on the phone, but I was running on two and a half hours sleep, too much coffee and had just had 11NZA :shit: , so I was not at my best. Tomorrow I shall rejoin the struggle with all guns blazing...

Weird amount for an excess though, it must be excess and unpaid premium needing to be paid to bring policy up to date or something? My 17y/o daughter had a whoopsie in her car on her restricted, not a lot of damage and no hurt people, her excess was $900.

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 17:53
Weird amount for an excess though, it must be excess and unpaid premium needing to be paid to bring policy up to date or something? My 17y/o daughter had a whoopsie in her car on her restricted, not a lot of damage and no hurt people, her excess was $900.
Insurance paid up for the year on the 14 January, so no issues there.

Apparently they're bending me over because I have a learner licence and because no other vehicles were involved. I think it's called the "Newly retarded rider" clause.

Thank christ I'm over 25, any younger and they'd probably want my ovaries as well.

Badger8
16th February 2009, 17:56
Thank christ I'm over 25, any younger and they'd probably want my ovaries as well.

Perhaps if you offer them your first born? Might knock a couple hundred off...

Mom
16th February 2009, 17:57
Insurance paid up for the year on the 14 January, so no issues there.

Apparently they're bending me over because I have a learner licence and because no other vehicles were involved. I think it's called the "Newly retarded rider" clause.

Thank christ I'm over 25, any younger and they'd probably want my ovaries as well.

Something not right there mate. Learner or not makes no difference, if they have accepted liability for you and your ride, they will have imposed an excesss to sheild themselves from too big a hit. That is a shocker, $1649 is the amount stated on your insurance proposal?

ducatilover
16th February 2009, 17:58
a mate and i got crashed into in his silvia, the insurance company said write off, he cancelled the claim and the father in law is fixing it [gavin miller panel beating and plastic weilding, he rules]
i would expect that you will be able to cancel the claim.
street-fighter her, it will probably end up cheaper.
if the forks are bent the are cheap ways to straighten minor bends.
i will have a look in my garage for old indicators. i have a square gpz400r headlight out there still.....:sunny: good luck!

Dean
16th February 2009, 18:04
If there is anything i can do to help let me know sweetheart:buggerd:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 18:09
Something not right there mate. Learner or not makes no difference, if they have accepted liability for you and your ride, they will have imposed an excesss to sheild themselves from too big a hit. That is a shocker, $1649 is the amount stated on your insurance proposal?
According to the blurbles....

Standard excess:
a)20% sum insured ($4495 so $899)

Additional excesses:
a) $500 if motorcycle is damaged and no other vehicles involved

b) $250 if motorcycle ridden by someone holding less than a full licence.

So yeah, that's how that's been worked out. I choose to view this as the most expensive learning curve EVER.

I took it because it cost $424 for the year, which is much, much cheaper than insurance in the UK and about $200 cheaper than next cheapest quote I got. A lot of places didn't seem to want to insure a learner so my options were limited so I took it.

Ouch.

Dealer
16th February 2009, 18:13
If your bike is only worth $4000 then its not worth getting full insurance.
I only had 3rd party on mine. Insurance company's will usually write off a bike if cost to repair is 75% or more of insured sum.
Surely you can get the fairings repaired with fibreglass, do it yourself (or beg someone else to do it) or take to a panelbeater. Hey, if you get stuck, give me a PM and i'll do it for you.
I had a lot of fun rebuilding my ZZR, do you have somewhere to do it?
And some tools?

AllanB
16th February 2009, 18:14
I'm not impressed with RB's assertion that "Ah, they're all that soft mate"


We still talking about the bike here? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 18:18
If your bike is only worth $4000 then its not worth getting full insurance.
I only had 3rd party on mine. Insurance company's will usually write off a bike if cost to repair is 75% or more of insured sum.
Surely you can get the fairings repaired with fibreglass, do it yourself (or beg someone else to do it) or take to a panelbeater. Hey, if you get stuck, give me a PM and i'll do it for you.
I had a lot of fun rebuilding my ZZR, do you have somewhere to do it?
And some tools?
only been in the country a month (flew over, travelled VERY light) and still not been paid, so no tools as yet. However, friendly KBers have offered space and tools (and some all-important guidance- I will be learning as I go here) sO I'm taking them up on it.

Will be getting third party next time, this has been ridiculous.

ducatilover- muchas gracias, if you've got some stuff you don't mind swapping for beer that's in decent nick that'd be ace!

YB16- thanks for the offer, but I'm getting fucked over this hard enough already.

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 18:20
We still talking about the bike here? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
:spanking:

Honestly, it's like a schoolyard in here!

*polishes hypocrite badge*

Badger8
16th February 2009, 18:20
According to the blurbles....

Standard excess:
a)20% sum insured ($4495 so $899)

Additional excesses:
a) $500 if motorcycle is damaged and no other vehicles involved

b) $250 if motorcycle ridden by someone holding less than a full licence.


a) Ouch!
a) double ouch!!
b) oh ffs... :(

Oh well, Tox shall ride again i guess :sunny:

pecks
16th February 2009, 18:20
just do what i do an dont have any cover its cheaper an makes you more carfull on the road lol yea rite the road is also a race track lol :)

Squiggles
16th February 2009, 18:21
Following on from the epic write-off thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=92282), it is starting to look like cancelling my claim with the insurance lot and doing the ZZR up myself is the way to go. Protecta insurance are charging me $1649 in excess. So, good readers of KB, the challenge is to get her back on the road for less than that.

Easy


Some wonderful people on here have offered to help out with the renovation project, so labour will be about $100 in beer and meat. Sexual favours not included, sorry Skidmark. I'm also figuring RB will charge for their assessment and general tyre-kicking duties.

The main issue is one of cosmetics. Everyone is saying streetfighter the bitch, so I'm going to need new clocks, headlight, mirrors and indicators. Substructure is buggered on the right side where she impacted, so that's going to have to be stripped out. How big a job is this realistically?

Are the clocks etc actually broken? Sure you want to go streetfighter, they dont look that pretty without plastics (imho)
If clocks are munted from crash: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Electrics/auction-202263656.htm
Fairings can be repaired...


The suspension needs to be adjusted too, so that this NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. I'm not impressed with RB's assertion that "Ah, they're all that soft mate", but still, that's going to be another job but not vital.

RB also assert that the forks are bent, but if it's so subtle they can't tell without operating on her I'm going to assume that this too is a medium-term issue.

$320 on trademe for a new set, there are probably others out there...



My work are giving me an emergency loan of $2k, so this can get seen to post-haste. :first: Obviously, if the decision is to fix her back up rather than write her off then it's easier to have the garage do it, but I'm buggered if I'm going to let them write her off!


You can do it... i drink tui :clap:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 18:30
just do what i do an dont have any cover its cheaper an makes you more carfull on the road lol yea rite the road is also a race track lol :)

No cover at all? May you be more careful on the road than you are on a keyboard.

I'm not sure what your point about the road not being a racetrack is? Apart from being a statement of the obvious of course..



Are the clocks etc actually broken? Sure you want to go streetfighter, they dont look that pretty without plastics (imho)
If clocks are munted from crash: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Electrics/auction-202263656.htm
Fairings can be repaired...

$320 on trademe for a new set, there are probably others out there...


You can do it... i drink tui :clap:

Should really have taken pics of the damage, but I assumed it would be less of an ordeal than it's turned into and it wasn't necessary! Clocks are OK, but the substructure on the right hand side is, as we say in my hometown, "panned the fuck in". This has caused the fairing to wrench to one side, and there's a cocking great big fissure across the headlight panel. The right panel is not looking so hot either. TBH I'm more of a looks before personality kinda gal, so if she'll run and not cause children to burst into tears in the street then I can live with it...

Cheers for the linky :)

The Stranger
16th February 2009, 18:49
All you should need to do to get the bike back is advise Barons that you would like to collect it and pay them any reasonable costs. Then go pick it up, you will never hear from the insurer again. They will be over the moon that they got your premium for free and didn't have to pay out a claim - after all not paying claims is how they make money.

The forks are all soft in that model. It is a well known problem (borderline criminal I would have said) - just not to noobs is all. Are yours worse than normal? I would guess so personally.

Bent forks? How? You cushioned the fall and it low sided into a clay ditch. My experience is that all repairers say the forks are bent. Giving them the benefit of the doubt they are trying to cover their arse, however, personally I think it's an excuse to extract more money from the insurance company. I will be very surprised of the forks are bent. Second hand front shocks are going for around $150.00 on tardme, so even if they are bent it doesn't really change the economics. Plus, you could research what other front end would fit and perhaps use that instead if it really is bent.

Badger8
16th February 2009, 19:01
Bent forks? How? You cushioned the fall and it low sided into a clay ditch.

They were definitely twisted, but i couldnt see any actual bendage in the two minute look over i gave it. Action was still smooth, just the wheel tracking at a bit of an angle was all. A straighten out would most likely do the trick.

Squiggles
16th February 2009, 19:06
Should really have taken pics of the damage, but I assumed it would be less of an ordeal than it's turned into and it wasn't necessary! Clocks are OK, but the substructure on the right hand side is, as we say in my hometown, "panned the fuck in". This has caused the fairing to wrench to one side, and there's a cocking great big fissure across the headlight panel. The right panel is not looking so hot either. TBH I'm more of a looks before personality kinda gal, so if she'll run and not cause children to burst into tears in the street then I can live with it...

Headlight itself is munted or just the surrounding fairing?

Do you remember if you busted any levers or footpegs

The Stranger
16th February 2009, 19:22
Headlight itself is munted or just the surrounding fairing?

Do you remember if you busted any levers or footpegs

Levers and pegs are fine.

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 19:24
Headlight itself is munted or just the surrounding fairing?

Do you remember if you busted any levers or footpegs
surrounding fairing, light itself is OK.

I rode it back to safety from the crash site and didn't notice any issues re: pegs or levers. I think the only time it was horizontal was when it landed on me...

skidMark
16th February 2009, 19:27
Sexual favours not included, sorry Skidmark.


I was trying to help out to be friendly, that is the sort of person i am, i had no intentions whatsoever of that...

Don't flatter yourself.

My offer is withdrawn i only help people who see it for what it is and nothing more...

Considering i am in a relationship i would be chatting you up why?

I'm too nice for my own good.

As you were.

ducatilover
16th February 2009, 19:29
I was trying to help out to be friendly, that is the sort of person i am, i had no intentions whatsoever of that...

Don't flatter yourself.

My offer is withdrawn i only help people who see it for what it is and nothing more...

Considering i am in a relationship i would be chatting you up why?

I'm too nice for my own good.

As you were.

hands are not the kind of relationship we take seriously;)

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 19:32
I was trying to help out to be friendly, that is the sort of person i am, i had no intentions whatsoever of that...

Don't flatter yourself.

My offer is withdrawn i only help people who see it for what it is and nothing more...

Considering i am in a relationship i would be chatting you up why?

I'm too nice for my own good.

As you were.

It was a joke dude, but on the subject of which....


I truely believe we should fornicate.


See you there then? its a date.

from http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89651&highlight=lookalikes&page=5

And an offer to pimp me out sent via PM, as well as the suggestion I was an easy lay.

So, er, yeah. Said as a throwaway comment, based on last night's suggestion that you wanted a fuck.

skidMark
16th February 2009, 19:35
It was a joke dude, but on the subject of which....





from http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=89651&highlight=lookalikes&page=5

And an offer to pimp me out sent via PM, as well as the suggestion I was an easy lay.

So, er, yeah. Said as a throwaway comment, based on last night's suggestion that you wanted a fuck.


Last night when i was home with my girlfriend...

Right.

GLHF

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 19:44
Last night when i was home with my girlfriend...

Right.

GLHF

So she wrote this?

NOMIS
16th February 2009, 19:47
So she wrote this?

skiddy... u dirty lil man..

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 19:49
skiddy... u dirty lil man..
My fault really, I got mixed messages from him :(

You men are so hard to read sometimes!

Mom
16th February 2009, 20:00
Ouch.

Ouch and then some! :(

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 20:04
thanks for getting thread back on track :)

well, it's been decided. A couple of the lads are going to RB tomorrow and picking her up from there, where it shall be streetfightered enough so I can ride her. Then comes the real fun of making her look propah AWESOME...

bollocks to a $1649 excess charge. PROTECTA? Fuck off!

skidMark
16th February 2009, 20:05
My fault really, I got mixed messages from him :(

You men are so hard to read sometimes!

lol.........................pot...








kettle.

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 20:08
lol.........................pot...








kettle.
oh lord.

Yes Mark. It's not what you said, but the fact you threw your toys out the pram later when I made a joke relating to such. I have no issue with your comments on the other thread, but to pretend they didn't exist? On a messageboard with a search function? For real?

That's just silly.

Now, get off my (relatively) serious thread or contribute properly.

The Stranger
16th February 2009, 20:13
So she wrote this?

Umm, you may want to delete that post.

Badger8
16th February 2009, 20:14
well, it's been decided. A couple of the lads are going to RB tomorrow and picking her up from there, where it shall be streetfightered enough so I can ride her. Then comes the real fun of making her look propah AWESOME...

bollocks to a $1649 excess charge. PROTECTA? Fuck off!

Mint! :yes:

Have seen a couple of ZZR's fightered in my time, they actually look pretty good sans fairings. One day ye shall learn, nekkid IS propah awesome :Punk:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 20:17
Umm, you may want to delete that post.
Done. Posting screenshots a FAQ-buster?

tigertim20
16th February 2009, 21:27
you said that there was some bending etc on your bike, I would imagine that someone on here has, or is by trade a welder, your frame is probably aluminium? so a tig welder and a very small amount of time will fix or replace that. You may even find either a) aluminium tube the right size or b) a randon frame at a junkyard from which you can cut the required peices and replace bent parts of your chassis?
I would be glad to help if I could, I used to help my old boss build custom choppers!! (much fun building bikes from scratch)
I may have already missed what Im about to post, but in case it hasnt been done yet, perhaps you could post a link to a heap of photos showing the damage (minus fairings) and a full list of bits that are fucked and need replacing, you will likely get a heap of the required peices from kind people on here, I have in the past benefitted from the generosity of KB members when repairing damaged bikes!!!
Best of luck with the project! I look forward to seeing updates
p.s. SF is the way to go, and I propose that ALL women agree to ride naked from now on. . . . . . . . . :bleh:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 21:35
you said that there was some bending etc on your bike, I would imagine that someone on here has, or is by trade a welder, your frame is probably aluminium? so a tig welder and a very small amount of time will fix or replace that. You may even find either a) aluminium tube the right size or b) a randon frame at a junkyard from which you can cut the required peices and replace bent parts of your chassis?
I would be glad to help if I could, I used to help my old boss build custom choppers!! (much fun building bikes from scratch)
I may have already missed what Im about to post, but in case it hasnt been done yet, perhaps you could post a link to a heap of photos showing the damage (minus fairings) and a full list of bits that are fucked and need replacing, you will likely get a heap of the required peices from kind people on here, I have in the past benefitted from the generosity of KB members when repairing damaged bikes!!!
Best of luck with the project! I look forward to seeing updates
p.s. SF is the way to go, and I propose that ALL women agree to ride naked from now on. . . . . . . . . :bleh:
I have had a load of offers from the good peeps of KB, for which I extend my heartfelt thanks :)

There is now a plan afoot to rescue the noble Tox and have her ride again!!

I think it's only fair that her resurrection be documented, any more a KB bike and I'll repaint her black and gold...

gammaguy
16th February 2009, 21:44
i run a workshop

i have resurrected many a ZZR 250 from almost written off-ness(what is it about them that attracts them groundwards??)

i may have a few bits laying about,freight to the NI would be the only drawback i guess.

other than that,happy to answer any questions re putting it back together(or taking it apart)

and there will be no double entendres or sniggering either:gob:

:done:

EatOrBeEaten
16th February 2009, 21:50
i run a workshop

i have resurrected many a ZZR 250 from almost written off-ness(what is it about them that attracts them groundwards??)

Suspension softer than a fine brie that's at the runny stage?


i may have a few bits laying about,freight to the NI would be the only drawback i guess.

other than that,happy to answer any questions re putting it back together(or taking it apart)

and there will be no double entendres or sniggering either:gob:

:done:

That is very, very generous, thank you :) I am stunned that there would be no double entendres either, I feel I have lowered the tone here somewhat. Do you have any pics of ZZRs that are streetfightered? (I love that term, makes me think of hours spent kicking arse on the Amiga 600)

Getting this bike back on the road is a proper team effort, KB should be rightly proud of itself for being so damn supportive...

The Pastor
16th February 2009, 21:55
Im happy to show you how to repair the plastics on your bike, but once ive shown you what to do, you'll have to do it yourself (becuase of the ammount of labour involved - dont worry its easy just abit of work).

Can you post pictures up of the bike please?

I can (probably) show you how to repair the plastics up to the paint stage - and show you work of plastics ive repaired myself.

remember, you can always ride the bike without the plastics (unless they hold stuff on - zip ties work great here) untill the plastics are repaired.

Slyer
16th February 2009, 22:21
Sounds like a project alright!
I can't believe you haven't posted pics though.
Imma need to do some plastic repairs too eventually, thankfully my main bit of fairing is fibreglass and didn't break at all.

The Pastor
16th February 2009, 22:43
Sounds like a project alright!
I can't believe you haven't posted pics though.
Imma need to do some plastic repairs too eventually, thankfully my main bit of fairing is fibreglass and didn't break at all.
if you need a hand give me a yell yeah?

skidMark
16th February 2009, 22:43
oh lord.

Yes Mark. It's not what you said, but the fact you threw your toys out the pram later when I made a joke relating to such. I have no issue with your comments on the other thread, but to pretend they didn't exist? On a messageboard with a search function? For real?

That's just silly.

Now, get off my (relatively) serious thread or contribute properly.


I have PM'd my offer of help... as you know.

skidMark
16th February 2009, 22:44
if you need a hand give me a yell yeah?


ROFL new sig.:bleh:

retro asian
16th February 2009, 23:40
bollocks to a $1649 excess charge. PROTECTA? Fuck off!

That amount sucks...

But with all insurance, I believe you can reduce or increase the excess amount (just have to ask them) which in turn increases or decreases the annual premium.

e.g. If you have very low risk of making a claim, you can change your excess to $2000 for example and pay a very low yearly amount.

This is pretty much gambling, or making an educated bet...

You also have to watch out for those bloody sub clauses before you sign the contract... insurance saleperson probably won't tell you about them... :angry2:

Gremlin
17th February 2009, 00:10
If you need a top fairing (the one around the headlight) Just Fairings in Hamilton make fibreglass ones for the zzr (I got one).

If you need a copy of the service manual, I have a digital copy of that.

One problem with riding the bike naked without fairings is that the front indicators are integrated into the side fairings, so you would need to rig something up there.

If you do put fairings back on, don't bother looking for secondhand front indicators, unless you have the luck of the irish. They are the first damn thing to get damaged in accidents, and new ones cost $70 odd. (Yeah, the zzr250 was my learner bike, and I needed an indicator either side).

disenfranchised
17th February 2009, 07:35
Standard excess:
a)20% sum insured ($4495 so $899)

Additional excesses:
a) $500 if motorcycle is damaged and no other vehicles involved
b) $250 if motorcycle ridden by someone holding less than a full licence.

So yeah, that's how that's been worked out. I choose to view this as the most expensive learning curve EVER.

I took it because it cost $424 for the year, which is much, much cheaper than insurance in the UK and about $200 cheaper than next cheapest quote I got.

That amount is truely criminal.

State Insurance.
Bike valued somewhere between 5-6k.
$45 dollars a month...which is only just over $100 more than you were paying.
$400 flat excess....which makes the whole thing reasonable.

I've had a bin, no contact to other vehicles (although one was the cause) and they paid out no problems.
The guys at Red Baron treated me right, getting the insurance amount based on full stock replacement, but then letting me choose aftermarket parts (mirrors etc...) to help make some other changes I wanted to do.

Slyer
17th February 2009, 07:49
http://justfairings.co.nz/cms1/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=126
That's not toooo bad.
And as I said the fibreglass ones are far more crash resistant.
I went for a long slide down the road and it only left a flat patch where the fibreglass got worn down. :)

sinfull
17th February 2009, 08:04
Dont forget to cancell your policy and get 90% of your premium back aye !!!
For a bike of 4 or 5 k in value that access is criminal ! Cheapest aint always best aye !
Good luck with the rebuild !!!

Swoop
17th February 2009, 11:04
EOBE.
May I suggest getting in contact with Placidfemme (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=2306). She has 'fightered her zzr after her bike was stolen and crashed.
PF may have a few ideas for contacts regarding replacement parts.

skidMark
17th February 2009, 12:41
EOBE.
May I suggest getting in contact with Placidfemme (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=2306). She has 'fightered her zzr after her bike was stolen and crashed.
PF may have a few ideas for contacts regarding replacement parts.


Fightered ZXR not ZZR.... and it looks like shit.

EatOrBeEaten
17th February 2009, 14:31
EOBE.
May I suggest getting in contact with Placidfemme (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=2306). She has 'fightered her zzr after her bike was stolen and crashed.
PF may have a few ideas for contacts regarding replacement parts.
Cheers mate- looks pretty striking! I think I'll be going for a bigger headlight though.

Badger8
17th February 2009, 14:40
Cheers mate- looks pretty striking! I think I'll be going for a bigger headlight though.

eegads, i should hope so! Is that one even legal? :crazy:
EDIT: Mind you, i suppose it's the brightness of the beam,, not the size of the reflector aye? (I bet you say that to all the ladies :lol:)

R6_kid
17th February 2009, 15:07
It's stripped down and sitting in The Strangers garage.

Everything is repairable, the only problem i see at the moment is that the RHS fairing has broken two of the mounting tabs at the top, which would be hard to plastic weld.

If it's a streetfighter Roz wants then it should be relatively easy, just need to make up a front subframe to fit whatever headlight she wants. The front end is the only thing that lets it down in terms of being a fighter - but i know where I can get hold of a ZXR400 front end which could work quite well. All comes down to $$$ at the end of the day though.

When she has made up her mind i'll post a list of parts we need and see if anyone else is willing to help out with sourcing some cheap/affordable parts.

Swoop
17th February 2009, 15:54
Everything is repairable, the only problem i see at the moment is that the RHS fairing has broken two of the mounting tabs at the top, which would be hard to plastic weld.
Piece of piss. If all the parts are still there and unbroken, just glue it back on with epoxy resin glue and perhaps a bit of glass cloth for good measure.

R6_kid
17th February 2009, 15:57
Will that be strong enough?

If it is going to go back to standard all it needs is a RHS mirror and the front subframe. Everything else can be plastic welded.

The forks dont look bent, and im pretty sure we've got them straight, but just incase they aren't 100% i've already tracked down a set of forks and triples for $320.

Swoop
17th February 2009, 16:02
Will that be strong enough?
Yup.
A bike I had a few years back, actually rattled when purchased.
A bit of work and she was all fixed and was sold some time later, still going well.
Epoxy. Great stuff.

gatch
17th February 2009, 17:36
yo, if you need any tricky little pieces machined up ill do it for a forum smiley face, i like making bike bits (am a fitter/turner)

chur
gatch

The Stranger
17th February 2009, 17:42
Before....

The Stranger
17th February 2009, 17:43
ArseSex_squid checking out the new bucket.

The Stranger
17th February 2009, 17:46
but i know where I can get hold of a ZXR400 front end which could work quite well.


Fuck yeah! I want some of those so I can stop reeeeaaaal fast aye

gatch
17th February 2009, 18:00
hardly looks damaged, iv seen much worse on the road hahaha

The Stranger
17th February 2009, 19:24
hardly looks damaged, iv seen much worse on the road hahaha

As is usual anything that had any sign of a scratch they just allow to replace with new parts. Lots of things scratched, but FA damaged beyond use or repair. As noted, it was ridden back no problem.

Gremlin
17th February 2009, 22:35
pffft, she didn't even break the indicators!! Blardy hell, wish I could have been able to do that :weep:

If she wants it faired, looks like a call to Just Fairings for the top fairing. You will need to send the headlight as well, as the put it into the fairing with glue/whatever

Who's the ugly git in the shots :sick:

The Pastor
17th February 2009, 22:38
Fuck yeah! I want some of those so I can stop reeeeaaaal fast aye
nah only the 250 can stop real quick. (c modle with the usds)

but ive never seen it happen in person. aparantly you need the worlds smallest dick to be riding it

EatOrBeEaten
17th February 2009, 23:10
pffft, she didn't even break the indicators!! Blardy hell, wish I could have been able to do that :weep:

class. I have it.


If she wants it faired, looks like a call to Just Fairings for the top fairing. You will need to send the headlight as well, as the put it into the fairing with glue/whatever

Who's the ugly git in the shots :sick:

After R6 and I got slightly drunked on bourbon this evening at the NiN gig, we made the executive decision to keep her faired. Now all I need is some cash money to make all this happen...

Slyer
17th February 2009, 23:15
Just ride with the damage.
Bikes are for riding. ;)

gatch
17th February 2009, 23:25
Just ride with the damage.
Bikes are for riding. ;)

seconded, if anyone asks just tell em "you should see the other guy".

at least yours goes..

EatOrBeEaten
17th February 2009, 23:30
Hehehehe, who added that tag?

And, er, flattered :D

gammaguy
17th February 2009, 23:41
warning:bourbon and teh internets are a dangerous combination:yes:

EatOrBeEaten
17th February 2009, 23:43
warning:bourbon and teh internets are a dangerous combination:yes:
So maybe now is not the time to divulge my feelings about a certain poster then? ;) :p

The Stranger
18th February 2009, 00:07
Hehehehe, who added that tag?

And, er, flattered :D

The one about skidmark?

R6_kid
18th February 2009, 00:28
Gotta say that the NiN gig was much better than I expected, and all I had to do was put a bike on a trailer, drop it off at a mates place and then talk shit while we took the fairings off. Sounds like a good days work to me!

EatOrBeEaten
18th February 2009, 06:07
The one about skidmark?

That one is good, but the one that describes me as being similar to a 1970's CB400 is very sweet...




Gotta say that the NiN gig was much better than I expected, and all I had to do was put a bike on a trailer, drop it off at a mates place and then talk shit while we took the fairings off. Sounds like a good days work to me!

You don't remember drunkenly agreeing to pay for all parts and labour, and that you were going to buy me a puppy? :( I knew I should have got that in writing...

The Stranger
18th February 2009, 06:58
After R6 and I got slightly drunked on bourbon this evening at the NiN gig, we made the executive decision to keep her faired. Now all I need is some cash money to make all this happen...

Oh dear. I knew I should have chaperoned you guys. You go out, get pissed and make silly decisions. Who knows what other irrational inappropriate decisions you 2 made whilst tipsy.

If you go naked, all we need to get is a headlight. You can have the bike this weekend. The other shit can still be sorted whilst you are riding around over the next couple of weeks then swapped back in a day (or less). Or is R6_Kid somehow super motivated?

EatOrBeEaten
18th February 2009, 07:45
Oh dear. I knew I should have chaperoned you guys. You go out, get pissed and make silly decisions. Who knows what other irrational inappropriate decisions you 2 made whilst tipsy.

If you go naked, all we need to get is a headlight. You can have the bike this weekend. The other shit can still be sorted whilst you are riding around over the next couple of weeks then swapped back in a day (or less). Or is R6_Kid somehow super motivated?
I meant we'd made the decision to put a fairing on her in the near future, and get her back on the road ASAP. I know R6 said he was going to look at headlights today, because he is of the awesome.

placidfemme
27th February 2009, 13:48
EOBE.
May I suggest getting in contact with Placidfemme (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=2306). She has 'fightered her zzr after her bike was stolen and crashed.
PF may have a few ideas for contacts regarding replacement parts.

Firstly... Mine was a ZXR :doh: but neither here or there I guess

My opinion is to get your pay out and buy another bike. Sure you loose $1600+/- but believe me its barely worth the effort. Plus you must consider that the street fighter scene in NZ is still small and way under appreciated, for the amount of time, effort and money put into them. You will have issues when you come to on-sell it. They are an acquired taste and most people assume street fighter means its been crashed (and for the most part are correct).

If the bike is legally written off (by the insurance) you will need an engineers certificate before you can have it re-certified and rego'd. That is about $250-ish. Then compliance and rego fee's after that. If your forks are bent it will fail the engineers cert. If the rear subframe, swingarm or frame are bent even by 2 degrees it will fail. They are really anal about that (and so they should be... your life is in their hands).

If you are going to get the forks checked out you will possibly need new fork seals and dust seals, which as far as I'm aware are not available aftermarket for the ZZR's... so OEM parts only. Plus new fork oil... then labour (or mates rates = beers).

If you are removing the front/top fairing you will need to do a lot of research into mirror mounts because of the angel of the clip-ons. I couldn't find anything to work on the ZXR clip-ons so I ended up getting risers, drilling through the top triple clamp and installing dirt fat bars to the ZXR. If you then install dirt bars/risers you may need to have all your cables re-made as they will be too short, or at the very least your brake lines... but braided lines are always a better option, so no loss there!

You can get plenty of aftermarket headlights (most come with mounts), check out http://www.nzstreetfighters.com/ for heaps of options. Or you could go with something simple like Acerbis Diamond etc. If you need new instruments I'd suggest Koso (sold by nzstreetfighters) as they are the easiest to install, the less cutting of your original wiring loom the better!

I could go on forever... took me nearly a year from the date of stripping the bike to its finishing... hit me up if you need any advice or whatever... or you could pop into Mt Eden Motorcycles and see me...

PF

R6_kid
27th February 2009, 14:19
Took us two days and about $170 to have a headlight mounted with indicators, only thing we forgot about was the mirror mounts but that has been sorted.

Fairings are now repaired (plastic welded) for a the measly cost of $112.50 - and considering all the little pieces I gave to the guy, the price, and the finish are bloody outstanding. Just needs prepping for paint now, which will be done with some hard work over a few bourbons. Then its just a matter of deciding what to do about the painting.

Suspension is still proving to be difficult at best, it's much better, but still by no means as good as it should be. We have a couple of ideas that could work - which will also be pondered over a few bourbons tomorrow.

Slyer
27th February 2009, 15:49
Who did you take it to? Interested to hear.

EatOrBeEaten
27th February 2009, 20:57
Well, she's back. After weeks of sleepless nights, pleading, porridge (damn you kiwifruit) and despondently staring at GN250's on tardme, the Kwaka's back. :2thumbsup

R6 Kid and the stranger, I really cannot thank you boys enough. The suspension is radically improved, she looks pretty good and for the first time since the bin I'm reasonably confident I'll get some money back off her when I sell her. She feels really different without the fairing- dare I say better?

Have attached pics of how she looks, and also one of me licking some nut meat. Enjoy!

gammaguy
27th February 2009, 21:01
Well, she's back. After weeks of sleepless nights, pleading, porridge (damn you kiwifruit) and despondently staring at GN250's on tardme, the Kwaka's back. :2thumbsup

R6 Kid and the stranger, I really cannot thank you boys enough. The suspension is radically improved, she looks pretty good and for the first time since the bin I'm reasonably confident I'll get some money back off her when I sell her. She feels really different without the fairing- dare I say better?

Have attached pics of how she looks, and also one of me licking some nut meat. Enjoy!

it will feel really different without the fairing too,when those south island winds blow up yer kilt:pinch:

EJK
27th February 2009, 21:57
Have attached pics of how she looks, and also one of me licking some nut meat. Enjoy!

Very nice bike. Street fighter is it? And...
Hahaha! Have you tried these yet?

<img src="http://www.kookychow.com/02/image/fishballs0976.jpg"></img>

Bren
27th February 2009, 22:29
Just my opinion, it looks better without the fairing!....glad you are back on the road EOBE

EatOrBeEaten
27th February 2009, 22:33
Agreed- she looks the business, and pretty special :D

(just like her owner, natch)

hmmmnz
27th February 2009, 22:56
not to bad at all,
but that headlight should be moved back closer to the forks and attach the clocks to the top yoke or the forks, not the headlight,

i would also cut down that front mudguard, (just for cosmetic reasons)
it looks like its off a busa :D

other than that she looks good, i like my fighters, i hope it keeps evolving

Slyer
27th February 2009, 23:31
Wonder where you can source some new dials from. :)

R6_kid
27th February 2009, 23:41
not to bad at all,
but that headlight should be moved back closer to the forks and attach the clocks to the top yoke or the forks, not the headlight,

i would also cut down that front mudguard, (just for cosmetic reasons)
it looks like its off a busa :D

other than that she looks good, i like my fighters, i hope it keeps evolving

It's only a temporary job. The bends where done with a large crescent and brute force against a tie down point on the trailer. It's rough, but it's actually prett strong. Both the headlight and the gauges mount off of the fork clamps, with 2mm ally flat bar and heavy duty stainless bolts.

The plastic repairs were done by "The Plastic Repair Company" in Archers Road, Glenfield. Highly recommended, The Stranger was 'fucken amazed' when he saw them (his words).

hmmmnz
27th February 2009, 23:45
sweet, ali plate is what i used on my zxr, the only problem being that after a while it breaks, must be all the bunps ect slowly weakening it :D
eventually i went to stainless and never had any more problems... except for bending and cutting it in the first place :D

R6_kid
27th February 2009, 23:57
With some luck it'll be all done and dusted and back to standard by next weekend so that hopefully won't be a problem!

Badger8
28th February 2009, 05:33
The suspension is radically improved, she looks pretty good and for the first time since the bin I'm reasonably confident I'll get some money back off her when I sell her. She feels really different without the fairing- dare I say better?

Have attached pics of how she looks, and also one of me licking some nut meat. Enjoy!

She looks even better in the flesh. Apart from the subframe just chillin out down there, and the lack of backing to the clocks, it looks like it's supposed to be like that!
So happy to see you back on the road, the massive smile before we'd even made it out of traffic heading to the real roads said it all! :2thumbsup
Will have to show ya the awesome roads out there sometime.. and show you where the turnoff is on the way home ;) :dodge:

The Stranger
28th February 2009, 09:14
The suspension is radically improved, she looks pretty good and for the first time since the bin I'm reasonably confident I'll get some money back off her when I sell her. She feels really different without the fairing- dare I say better?


I tells ya, naked is where it's at.

The suspension - Fook me!!!
Never ever experienced anything quite like it. No wonder so many noobs bin these things - and by that I mean any of the 250 Kawasaki's in their many guises. What's worse most probably blame themselves.
I have never ridden a bike before where I can bottom or top out the forks at will, even at 15kph. Just grab a handful of brake, you feel the forks bottom then the front wheel locks, simple.
Now it may work for a 50kg rider, but no salesman with a concience should ever sell one to a real person. They're just plain dangerous.

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 09:23
I tells ya, naked is where it's at.


I'm becoming more and more of that opinion. How sad is it that I went into the garage this morning just to admire her? :love: Need to have a sit down and a cold one with you and R6 at some point, have a proper think about where we go from here. She does look awesome though!


Now it may work for a 50kg rider, but no salesman with a concience should ever sell one to a real person. They're just plain dangerous.

I applaud your delicate phrasing my good sir ;)

R6_kid
28th February 2009, 09:51
I applaud your delicate phrasing my good sir ;)

He's known for being like that!

Slyer
28th February 2009, 11:43
My shocks were extremely soft when I first got my bike, added more fluid and it was infinitely better.

gammaguy
28th February 2009, 12:16
i think i posted this earlier,but progressive fork springs are where its at.i put a set in ny RG and totally transformed the front end:2thumbsup

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/forksprings/index.html

jafar
28th February 2009, 12:33
With some luck it'll be all done and dusted and back to standard by next weekend so that hopefully won't be a problem!



She looks better naked than with clothes on ! :jerry:








& so does the bike :msn-wink:

gijoe1313
28th February 2009, 12:39
Ahh the naked world of biking! :yes: Reminds me of that ol'song "Welcome to my world"

Big ups to the guys who helped out and it's great to see bikers helping bikers ... something positive! :niceone:

samgab
28th February 2009, 12:53
Well, she's back. After weeks of sleepless nights, pleading, porridge (damn you kiwifruit) and despondently staring at GN250's on tardme, the Kwaka's back. :2thumbsup

R6 Kid and the stranger, I really cannot thank you boys enough. The suspension is radically improved, she looks pretty good and for the first time since the bin I'm reasonably confident I'll get some money back off her when I sell her. She feels really different without the fairing- dare I say better?

Have attached pics of how she looks, and also one of me licking some nut meat. Enjoy!
I reckon it looks much better "street fightered" than it did before!
Bring it along to the Wed NASS, so we can check it IRL.
It's got that cool looking frame, what a shame to hide that under plastic fairings.
Also, those little LED front indicators are stylie.

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 13:16
i think i posted this earlier,but progressive fork springs are where its at.i put a set in ny RG and totally transformed the front end:2thumbsup

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/forksprings/index.html

Cheers bro! :D They have springs for a 94 ZZR600 but not a 250. Might drop 'em a line.


She looks better naked than with clothes on ! :jerry:

& so does the bike :msn-wink:

Flatterer. Sadly I look better with clothes on, in fact the burqa is my ultimate style accessory! :D


Ahh the naked world of biking! :yes: Reminds me of that ol'song "Welcome to my world"

Big ups to the guys who helped out and it's great to see bikers helping bikers ... something positive! :niceone:

Hell yes, I still can't quite believe that the guys went to such an effort for me, and all the people that offered assistance too :) I've only been in NZ 6 weeks and already I've seen more friendliness and helpfulness than years in the UK...


I reckon it looks much better "street fightered" than it did before!
Bring it along to the Wed NASS, so we can check it IRL.
It's got that cool looking frame, what a shame to hide that under plastic fairings.
Also, those little LED front indicators are stylie.

Cheers mate :) Will be bringing her out for sure, now I've got her back I want to spend all my time riding (ahem). My current thinkings is to keep fairings somewhere safe, and get her some better clocks and sort out the sub frame. It really has been a surprise just how good the bike looks now, I keep poking my head into the garage to have a look at her :D

Badger8
28th February 2009, 16:37
My current thinkings is to keep fairings somewhere safe, and get her some better clocks and sort out the sub frame. It really has been a surprise just how good the bike looks now, I keep poking my head into the garage to have a look at her :D

:Punk: She finally comes to the dark side! :devil2:
But yeah, get that subframe off and tidy up the clocks, sort a 2nd mirror, and she will be super nom nom :yes:

gammaguy
28th February 2009, 17:12
Cheers bro! :D They have springs for a 94 ZZR600 but not a 250. Might drop 'em a line.







:D

au contraire

on the US side of things,its know as a 250 ninja and theres a listing for that:shifty:

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 20:48
Sweet as, thanks for the tip :)

ducatilover
28th February 2009, 23:06
top notch stuff!
congrats on getting the beast on the road

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 23:28
Hehehe, thanks :) Now, how to explain the streetfightering of Tox to my dad when he comes to visit over easter? :D

ducatilover
28th February 2009, 23:31
paint it matte [have to have the accent on matte, makes it sexy] black, chop the baffles out and put some dents in it and you have a true street fighter haha:banana:

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 23:42
So make it look like a monster? :p

ducatilover
28th February 2009, 23:45
haha you get the idea....:shifty:

or be strange like me and put a different fairing on it lol

EatOrBeEaten
28th February 2009, 23:51
haha you get the idea....:shifty:

or be strange like me and put a different fairing on it lol
I *heart* Monsters, I'd feel like a fraud riding a pretend one. Much like how Hyo riders feel about actual bikes I suppose ;) :D

Fairings are fixed, just not painted. just not sure I want them back on!

ducatilover
28th February 2009, 23:53
I *heart* Monsters, I'd feel like a fraud riding a pretend one. Much like how Hyo riders feel about actual bikes I suppose ;) :D

Fairings are fixed, just not painted. just not sure I want them back on!

i would love an s4rs in red with white stipes [orgasm!!!!!!]
hyo riders are silly for having a silly frame like an 80's vt250
leave it naked for a while:devil2:

samgab
1st March 2009, 01:34
Hehehe, thanks :) Now, how to explain the streetfightering of Tox to my dad when he comes to visit over easter? :D

Tell him it was always like that -- it's what they're supposed to look like.

Also, you have a streetfighter in the true, genuine sense of the word.
Not one of those pansy bikes that come from the factory to imitate the streetfighter "look".
The origin of street fighters was from the UK, where people would crash their faired bikes, and not be able to afford to replace the fairing, and so would cut off the superfluous bits of fairing and fix it to work with just the necessary bits, with number 8 wire, blue tack, and chewing gum.
In other words, EXACTLY how your bike became a street fighter!
(Disclaimer: the above may well be absolute nonsense that I just made up on the spot...)

Sly_guy
1st March 2009, 15:52
Nice one ! :D..

Glad to see you got her back on the road and that you were able to "undo" the claim ! :).

Looks like a hell of a machine... ! a lot more unique now !, that's a positive way of looking at it !

How does it feel in terms of ride now ?

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 15:59
Nice one ! :D..

Glad to see you got her back on the road and that you were able to "undo" the claim ! :).

Looks like a hell of a machine... ! a lot more unique now !, that's a positive way of looking at it !

How does it feel in terms of ride now ?
Cheers mate, the more I think about it the happier I am with how she looks sans fairing. Handling-wise, I'm still unhappy with the suspension (though the guys did a great job). It's much better than it was prior to the crash, but it's still pretty scary when the front end dips on downhill corners. I nearly lost her on Ridge road this arvo, after a corner revealed a vicious pothole right on the line I was taking :shit: Managed to swerve and avoid the pothole, but nearly lost the front end.

Rode like a nana the rest of the day, still need to regain my confidence...

Sly_guy
1st March 2009, 16:11
Rode like a nana the rest of the day, still need to regain my confidence...

Hey, it's no race ! :)... just take it all at your own pace...

I can assure you if I'd had a bin, I'd be out there in a Michelin Man suit for protection (some may suggest I already do!)...

I personally think it's VERY healthy to have small things like avoiding a pot hole and having a bit of a wobble scare the crap out of you, just maintains that awareness between you and mortality ! :D

Slyer
1st March 2009, 16:57
Fucking oath! Every corner has a car that could potentially go over the centreline.

jafar
1st March 2009, 18:14
Cheers mate, the more I think about it the happier I am with how she looks sans fairing. Handling-wise, I'm still unhappy with the suspension (though the guys did a great job). It's much better than it was prior to the crash, but it's still pretty scary when the front end dips on downhill corners. I nearly lost her on Ridge road this arvo, after a corner revealed a vicious pothole right on the line I was taking :shit: Managed to swerve and avoid the pothole, but nearly lost the front end.

Rode like a nana the rest of the day, still need to regain my confidence...

Take your time, there is no prize for getting there sooner..... or for crapping yourself either:laugh:

ducatilover
1st March 2009, 18:16
better late then never. or something like that :2thumbsup

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 18:26
All part of the great learning curve, innit? :D

I just.... fell off the curve, and have to do that bit again...

samgab
1st March 2009, 18:52
All part of the great learning curve, innit? :D

I just.... fell off the curve, and have to do that bit again...

The Wed NASS is really good for getting better skills and more confidence. Of course, having said that, Fizbin was getting pretty confident then binned it on the motorway...

ducatilover
1st March 2009, 19:46
All part of the great learning curve, innit? :D

I just.... fell off the curve, and have to do that bit again...

fell off the curve? isnt that a harley trick?:Pokey:

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 19:48
The Wed NASS is really good for getting better skills and more confidence. Of course, having said that, Fizbin was getting pretty confident then binned it on the motorway...

Yeah, I know, am going to NASS, seems to be I will get NO PEACE AT ALL until I turn up.. :p

fell off the curve? isnt that a harley trick?:Pokey:

Nah, that's falling off ON a curve.

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 19:49
Oh aye, and more pics and an update on my blog. Will be updating on how the project progresses there :)

ducatilover
1st March 2009, 19:51
awesome shit :rockon: now drag the knee

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 20:00
awesome shit :rockon: now drag the knee
Working on it! I see a track day in my future :D

ducatilover
1st March 2009, 20:03
Working on it! I see a track day in my future :D

:yes: awesome! that should be good fun, go give skidmark the learn

EatOrBeEaten
1st March 2009, 20:09
Met skiddy today actually, nice lad if a little excitable. :D Also got on my bike without asking first, naughty lad :angry2:

ducatilover
1st March 2009, 20:11
bash the disrespectful bugger!!!!!!!:girlfight:

jafar
3rd March 2009, 19:10
awesome shit :rockon: now drag the knee

Followed by the boot , elbow , handgrip , mirror , shoulder & the helmet :Oops:












:shutup:

Swoop
3rd March 2009, 21:21
in fact the burqa is my ultimate style accessory!
Is it true that the burqa is really a "Scottish head kilt - extra long"??

ducatilover
3rd March 2009, 23:08
Followed by the boot , elbow , handgrip , mirror , shoulder & the helmet :Oops:


thats real skill!:bleh:

skidMark
5th March 2009, 19:49
The Wed NASS is really good for getting better skills and more confidence. Of course, having said that, Fizbin was getting pretty confident then binned it on the motorway...

Not pretty confident, over confident.

He cranked it over on a lane change and the rear hits a cats eye reflector...

You can't just crank em over anywhere anytime...

Badger8
5th March 2009, 20:19
Not pretty confident, over confident.

He cranked it over on a lane change and the rear hits a cats eye reflector...

You can't just crank em over anywhere anytime...

You were there? Coz that aint what happened mate...
I saw it go down, and i agree he made his mistakes, but lets not speculate eh? :)

EatOrBeEaten
5th March 2009, 20:45
Aaaaaaanywaaaay......

Erm, see all this liquid dihydrogen oxide that falling out the sky? I am of a mind to put fairing back on, to reduce soakage. Especially given the upcoming round NZ Family Challenge next month.

Christ, I'm such a crap burd at making decisions about cosmetics....:confused:

MsKABC
5th March 2009, 20:50
Aaaaaaanywaaaay......

Erm, see all this liquid dihydrogen oxide that falling out the sky? I am of a mind to put fairing back on, to reduce soakage. Especially given the upcoming round NZ Family Challenge next month.

Christ, I'm such a crap burd at making decisions about cosmetics....:confused:

I think you mean dihydrogen monoxide :Pokey:

Nah, leave the fairings off - naked is always betterer :blip:

Slyer
5th March 2009, 20:52
Sorry who is the science teacher? :bleh:

jafar
5th March 2009, 20:52
Aaaaaaanywaaaay......

Erm, see all this liquid dihydrogen oxide that falling out the sky? I am of a mind to put fairing back on, to reduce soakage. Especially given the upcoming round NZ Family Challenge next month.

Christ, I'm such a crap burd at making decisions about cosmetics....:confused:

The fairings won't help to keep you dry. if you want that then get a car:devil2:

MarkH
5th March 2009, 20:53
liquid dihydrogen oxide that falling out the sky
:eek5: That sounds dangerous, is there any protective clothing available that can be purchased to protect a rider from this awful stuff?

I thought riding in the rain turned girls on? I knew this girl once that said it made her wet! :killingme

Badger8
5th March 2009, 20:54
Waterproof workmans overpants ftw :yes:
Picked me up a pair for like 20-30 bucks last year before winter, never a drop through em :sunny:

MsKABC
5th March 2009, 20:56
Sorry who is the science teacher? :bleh:

That would be me, ex- :bleh:

Slyer
5th March 2009, 20:59
Oh really? Haha.
I was making that joke because EOBE is. :D

ducatilover
5th March 2009, 20:59
i want naked piccys

EatOrBeEaten
5th March 2009, 21:04
i want naked piccys
on the blog mate!

ducatilover
5th March 2009, 21:11
on the blog mate!

i have seen the bike:whistle:

EatOrBeEaten
5th March 2009, 21:52
i have seen the bike:whistle:
In the real world?

Gubb
5th March 2009, 22:04
I thought riding in the rain turned girls on? I knew this girl once that said it made her wet! :killingme

i want naked piccys
You lot really need to get out of the house, and see if you can remember what an actual woman looks like. You're turning into Disco Dan minus the goats.

Slyer
5th March 2009, 22:08
I talked to a girl, once.

EatOrBeEaten
5th March 2009, 22:08
I think you mean dihydrogen monoxide :Pokey:

Nah, leave the fairings off - naked is always betterer :blip:

I stand corrected- Chemistry is not my specialism :doh: ;)


Oh really? Haha.
I was making that joke because EOBE is. :D

Female bikers who are also science teachers and awesome? There's more of us than you'd think.... :Punk:


You lot really need to get out of the house, and see if you can remember what an actual woman looks like. You're turning into Disco Dan minus the goats.

Goats? Actually, I don't want to know. :shit:

EatOrBeEaten
5th March 2009, 22:11
I talked to a girl, once.

You did! You said hi to me at Paeroa, and....not much else.

Admittedly I was hungover in the face and fell asleep, but still....

Gremlin
5th March 2009, 23:50
Admittedly I was hungover in the face and fell asleep, but still....
charming... how lady like

:dodge:

jafar
6th March 2009, 06:55
Admittedly I was hungover in the face....



Ok thats a new one :jerry:

Badger8
6th March 2009, 07:06
Admittedly I was hungover in the face....

Drinking with a gentleman perchance? :dodge:

EatOrBeEaten
6th March 2009, 07:14
charming... how lady like

:dodge:

Blame kiwifruit, and the fact the day before I'd been up at 4 to run part of the Lake Taupo relay. I was knackered, thank god for sidecars for waking me up! :D


Ok thats a new one :jerry:

*gently ushers in new terminology* Works best when attached to a threat, for example "Paris Hilton must be killed. Killed in the face".


Drinking with a gentleman perchance? :dodge:

That's how kiwifruit describes himself? Interesting.... :laugh:

Badger8
6th March 2009, 07:18
That's how kiwifruit describes himself? Interesting.... :laugh:

All i know is he likes porridge... :whistle: according to his shirt anyways :p

EDIT: Was i a naughty boy the first time round? *looks very confused*

MarkH
6th March 2009, 08:39
You lot really need to get out of the house, and see if you can remember what an actual woman looks like. You're turning into Disco Dan minus the goats.

I once got out of the house and saw an actual woman - it made my pants fit funny.

MsKABC
6th March 2009, 08:45
I stand corrected- Chemistry is not my specialism :doh: ;)


Me neither, biology me.


Female bikers who are also science teachers and awesome? There's more of us than you'd think.... :Punk:


But not that many - we don't want to be thought of as....ugh.... common, dahlink.

samgab
6th March 2009, 08:50
Hey, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a very dangerous chemical compound!
So dangerous, in fact, that a NZ MP tried to have it banned:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463579

harharhar.

MsKABC
6th March 2009, 09:05
Hey, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a very dangerous chemical compound!
So dangerous, in fact, that a NZ MP tried to have it banned:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10463579

harharhar.

:rofl: What a dumbass! There are websites devoted to this hoax, but I'm sure that if you googled it thoroughly enough (as she obviously didn't), you'd discover it was a hoax. This is often used in science classes to teach kids the lesson that you shouldn't necessarily believe everything you read/hear and to question everything. Alas, I am off-topic, sorry :crazy:

EatOrBeEaten
6th March 2009, 09:31
But not that many - we don't want to be thought of as....ugh.... common, dahlink.

Well no, I like to think we're a select group.


:rofl: What a dumbass! There are websites devoted to this hoax, but I'm sure that if you googled it thoroughly enough (as she obviously didn't), you'd discover it was a hoax. This is often used in science classes to teach kids the lesson that you shouldn't necessarily believe everything you read/hear and to question everything. Alas, I am off-topic, sorry :crazy:

I know there was a governor in the USA who did the same thing. Just shows how poor science teaching is. I blame teachers, I really do... ;)

MsKABC
6th March 2009, 09:49
Well no, I like to think we're a select group.



I know there was a governor in the USA who did the same thing. Just shows how poor science teaching is. I blame teachers, I really do... ;)

But a motorcycle is a great context for physics lessons in the junior science curriculum ;) Friction, energy transformations etc.

EatOrBeEaten
6th March 2009, 10:06
But a motorcycle is a great context for physics lessons in the junior science curriculum ;) Friction, energy transformations etc.
Oh hell yes, my 01SCI are getting bored of me using the Kwaka as an example when talking about speed and acceleration.... :D

MsKABC
6th March 2009, 10:07
Oh hell yes, my 01SCI are getting bored of me using the Kwaka as an example when talking about speed and acceleration.... :D

I'm sure your lessons are made all the more credible by your first-hand experience of Ek = 1/2mv2 :shutup:

MarkH
6th March 2009, 10:21
Hey, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a very dangerous chemical compound!

Extremely dangerous I would say - it is the direct cause of an incredibly huge number of human deaths every year. It also causes erosion. It causes property damage. It is a contributing factor to many road accidents.

Hoax, schmoax - that shit needs to be banned! :killingme

MsKABC
6th March 2009, 10:23
Extremely dangerous I would say - it is the direct cause of an incredibly huge number of human deaths every year. It also causes erosion. It causes property damage. It is a contributing factor to many road accidents.

Hoax, schmoax - that shit needs to be banned! :killingme

And it is a major component of acid rain, don't forget! It is found in our rivers, lakes & streams :no:

Badger8
6th March 2009, 12:05
It's also the main contributing factor in all steam burns, and acts as a carrier for all sorts of poisons and toxins :yes:
Nasty stuff, ban it now i say! :jerry:

EatOrBeEaten
6th March 2009, 13:44
*is pleased at the way this thread is going*

Slyer
6th March 2009, 14:15
Not to mention that HITLER was 60% Dihydrogen Monoxide including all the nazis.



:D

EatOrBeEaten
6th March 2009, 23:46
*shakes head*

Godwin's Law dude, Godwin's Law.