Tougher justice for youth.

[skidMark]

Thank you John Key, i now know my vote was correctly placed.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10557108

[MsKABC]

Awesome stuff, well spotted Skidmark :niceone: It would be great if they could do the same thing with dole bludgers too.

[Squid69]

On the brekfast show i heard John key saying that prisoners were going to be put to work for 20c a hour.

I heard some motherfucking hippy on Bfm today complaining that this would cut jobs for "working class nzers" as they work cheeper then them.

perhaps if they flicked a few of the chinese (and indians) that are doing the same thing out then id agree.

I for one, think it is good that they are not going to be sitting there all day playing playstation anymore!:2thumbsup

DISCLAIMER, i have not been to jail, ive only heard that they have playstations ect

[slofox]

On the brekfast show i heard John key saying that prisoners were going to be put to work for 20c a hour.

Hey, shit, that's more than I earn...bastards!

[firefighter]

that hippy on BFM probably thinks The Shawshank Redemption was a true story too......and that this can happen here....some people have no idea.

[skidMark]

On the brekfast show i heard John key saying that prisoners were going to be put to work for 20c a hour.

I heard some motherfucking hippy on Bfm today complaining that this would cut jobs for "working class nzers" as they work cheeper then them.

perhaps if they flicked a few of the chinese (and indians) that are doing the same thing out then id agree.

I for one, think it is good that they are not going to be sitting there all day playing playstation anymore!:2thumbsup

DISCLAIMER, i have not been to jail, ive only heard that they have playstations ect


Yep get them making numberplates, knitting jumpers for the underpriveledged etc.

[Headbanger]

Hell yes, Make those fuckers knit jumpers and then hand them out free of charge to people that need them.

Everyone needs a good warm jumper, One of lifes necessities.

That and some thick socks and sturdy boots.

[skidMark]

Hell yes, Make thos fuckers knit jumpers and then hand them out free of charge to people that need them.

Everyone needs a good warm jumper, One of lifes necessities.

That and some thick socks and sturdy boots.


Yep...recovering donated couches, sand and revarnish donated tables to be given to the less fortunate...

Make them actually be giving something back...

It should be proper punishment so they learn...

NZ is so light on sentances... they should be getting more than a free room overhead and a feed.... they should be getting what they are supposed to be in there for...

I'd like a heated floor...

[ManDownUnder]

You can thank me later (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9962&highlight=boot+camp)...

Yes John Key is my local MP, and yes I did send the idea to him.

No - I have no way of knowing if he chose to use it or not - but I'm happy he did. Now we need to give the little buggers a dose of responsibility and a few perks/rewards to go with it (shoot a few gun, ride in tanks - some of the cool/neat stuff to go along with the 4:00am cold showers...)

Mr Key - you bloody beauty!

[SPman]

It's already happening

The fact that the prisons are now undercutting firms in the "outside" world, and obtaining contracts, which see the regular firms ceasing production of their products, as they can't compete with "subsidised cheap labour", is not a worry then?

Refuse to work and lose chances of probation....sounds like standover tactics to me........

[skidMark]

It's already happening

The fact that the prisons are now undercutting firms in the "outside" world, and obtaining contracts, which see the regular firms ceasing production of their products, as they can't compete with "subsidised cheap labour", is not a worry then?

Refuse to work and lose chances of probation....sounds like standover tactics to me........


I'm in favour of cage fights to the death and deathrace...

[Maha]

Thank you John Key, i now know my vote was correctly placed.



I now know my vote was incorrectly placed.

[firefighter]

perhaps just shoot them in the face? (would save money....) I mean we are wasting time on them. I never did any of this shit as a kid, lets face it, a serious repeat child offender? fuck off shoot the little cunt in the face and save later heart aches. no sympathy here.

[FROSTY]

The next step is to make ALL benificiaries actually WORK for their handout. Either X number of job interviews or X hours working. Even if its sweepin the paths at the local park.
NO free rides.

[Morcs]

Yep...recovering donated couches, sand and revarnish donated tables to be given to the less fortunate...

Make them actually be giving something back...

It should be proper punishment so they learn...

NZ is so light on sentances... they should be getting more than a free room overhead and a feed.... they should be getting what they are supposed to be in there for...

I'd like a heated floor...

Erm so what are you doing exactly? you arent in a too dissimilar position, and are getting paid for it. what are you giving back to society?

[BigG]

Only 5% will get through and come out getting on with life, the other 95% will learn how not to get caught and be more succesful at doing what they did before the Boot Camp:laugh::laugh:

[wbks]

A few things... I can appreciate that he is doing something for the problem, but there are a bunch of people saying that the only thing it does is turn out tougher shitheads that are now fit and a little more book smart. And Phil Gough (how to spell it?) just seems to be popping his head up complaining about every little thing John Key is doing, yet his party had done nothing to fix the problem and at least National is doing something. If he wanted things to stay the same then one can assume he was happy with the way things were and thought it acceptable... Thoughts?

[Mully]

And Phil Gough (how to spell it?) just seems to be popping his head up complaining about every little thing John Key is doing, yet his party had done nothing to fix the problem and atleast Labour is doing something.

You mean National, perchance?

[slofox]

Only 5% will get through and come out getting on with life, the other 95% will learn how not to get caught and be more succesful at doing what they did before the Boot Camp:laugh::laugh:

Yep - yet another university of crime...DON'T stick em together. Bad move.

[skidMark]

The next step is to make ALL benificiaries actually WORK for their handout. Either X number of job interviews or X hours working. Even if its sweepin the paths at the local park.
NO free rides.


Yeah and policies to stop used car salesmen ripping off young fellas.

[wbks]

You mean National, perchance?Lol oops:spanking:

[wickle]

The next step is to make ALL benificiaries actually WORK for their handout. Either X number of job interviews or X hours working. Even if its sweepin the paths at the local park.
NO free rides.
I'D rather see ALL youth when they turn eighteen do six months National Service Training in disather relief, then when tyhoons, earthquakes etc happen we send help not millions of dollars.

[FROSTY]

Funny you should say that dude. I've thought for a long time that edjumucation is actually wasted on the Yoof of today.
Seriously I think at year 12 all kids should be out there in the work force. Compulsary work. 8-5.30 for 12 months. After that then go back to school with perhaps a clearer picture of the life direction they want to take.

[White trash]

Erm so what are you doing exactly? you arent in a too dissimilar position, and are getting paid for it. what are you giving back to society?
Well, alot of red rep to the people who's opinion differ from his. That's helpfull I think.

MAking dole bludgers work for the dole they're bludging simply wont work. They'll all develop serious illnesses that stops them working. Like complaining that it's too hard to give up smoking, therefore, I can't go to work. Sorry.

[stify]

bludging simply wont work. They'll all develop serious illnesses that stops them working. Like complaining that it's too hard to give up smoking, therefore, I can't go to work. Sorry.


well thats me fucked then...i was relying on a serious illness to cover my lifestyle choice...but I did make myself more redundant than normal...giddy up

[Grahameeboy]

$35 million could be spent better elsewhere.....there are other people more deserving who have to fight for their rights...

[JimO]

where im working at the moment there is about 4 large dark skinned gentlemen live across the road, all look healthy, and acording to the lady im working for they are all unemployed...why??? free money is to easy to get

[skidMark]

Erm so what are you doing exactly? you arent in a too dissimilar position, and are getting paid for it. what are you giving back to society?


I dunno you had no problem with it when i used to pay for our pool games twice a week...

but i spose me driving you and your gf there and back and paying for it stands for nothing...

Funny how you tell real friends from the users eh?

[wbks]

Skiddy's been used like a $2 hooker

[Morcs]

I dunno you had no problem with it when i used to pay for our pool games twice a week...

but i spose me driving you and your gf there and back and paying for it stands for nothing...

Funny how you tell real friends from the users eh?

Damn straight, as its MY money anyway.

LOL is that the best you can come up with?

if i give my mates a lift in my car, or even let one borrow a bike, i think nothing of it - i wouldnt even remember it to be able to throw it in their face.

lame.

[FROSTY]

Yeah and policies to stop used car salesmen ripping off young fellas.
Yasee boy you are perfectly safe there nowadays finance companies dont want to lend to benificiaries.

[skidMark]

Damn straight, as its MY money anyway.

LOL is that the best you can come up with?

if i give my mates a lift in my car, or even let one borrow a bike, i think nothing of it - i wouldnt even remember it to be able to throw it in their face.

lame.


You are the one who for no reason started abusing me...

I did nothing.

[skidMark]

Yasee boy you are perfectly safe there nowadays finance companies dont want to lend to benificiaries.


The money is not the issue.... it's the salesmen who sell vehicles with false promises of working spare engines etc...

Then claiming oh nooo i don't remember anymore the crash fucked up my memory...

It's a cop out, theres nothing wrong with your memory...

You just use it as an excuse to "forget" who you ripped off.

Want to get into this AGAIN tony frost of millars car centre?

Please do.

Goodnight :laugh:

[SARGE]

Yasee boy you are perfectly safe there nowadays finance companies dont want to lend to benificiaries.

http://www.seecoy.com/p4prvvork/boxing/chris_coy_pwnd.jpg

[SixPackBack]

Yasee boy you are perfectly safe there nowadays finance companies dont want to lend to benificiaries.

*You cannot give reputation to the same post twice*

[Morcs]

You are the one who for no reason started abusing me...
I did nothing.

purely because of a text you sent me calling me an f***ing asshole etc..

When i went over to your parents place on xmas eve (thinking you were still there) i actually wasnt sure whether I was going to be nice, or smash your face in...

[Skyryder]

It's one of the ways private prisons make thier money. They undercut society by way of contract prices due to cheap labour. Society(that's you and I) pick up the bill by way of unemployment benifits and related issues. Put a smiley face on an ex money trader and everone thinks they are getting a good deal.

For fucks sake guys wake up. Ya being shit on.


Skyryder