Fekking computers!

[Beemer]

Agh, I was cleaning out some old emails today and thought I had clicked on the deleted folder, so I did a Control A and deleted the lot... only to discover I had actually just permanently deleted every email in my inbox!

I thought I had scheduled backups on my computer but that appears not to have happened, so I have no backup copy (don't worry, I am in the process of backing up all my stuff right NOW so it won't happen again). I did manage to do a Find and recover all the files that had originally arrived in my inbox but then been moved to named folders in the inbox, but I had to move them all manually from the inbox to those folders again. And unfortunately EVERY other email that should have been in my inbox appears to have disappeared forever. None of the ones that arrived today are there, nor ones from weeks/months ago.

I asked on Press F1 but haven't had any luck there - I just got told I should have done backups...

Has anyone else been a moron like me before and deleted the contents of their inbox? If so, did you manage to recover the files? How? And did it involve lots of money and a computer expert? (Hopefully not...)

[merv]

On deleting them from Inbox they should have gone to your Deleted Items folder or were you somehow deleting the whole mailbox?

If so you should have been able to pull them back from there into the Inbox or did you already exit Outlook (presume you are using Outlook) with the delete items on exit mode turned on?

[3umph]

don't ya just hate it when that happens:bash:

[98tls]

:blink:Whats this "email" thing you speak of?

[3umph]

I had a problem upgrading laptops and with using multiple computers between work and home so now using gmail and have all my 8 odd emails forwarded to one account so no need to store emails on your PC and can access them from any PC

[Gremlin]

Assuming you're using Outlook, as merv said, deleting the email places it in the deleted items. Deleting a folder places it as a sub folder of deleted items.

Shift + Delete will permanently delete an item, no questions asked.

Next question is... how do you collect your emails? There are options to keep the mail on the server for x number of days (or permanently) or to remove it from the email server when you take a copy. Therefore, there could be a copy somewhere, depending on how you have it set up.

Yep... always easier to convince a client on spending for backups once they have lost stuff :yes:

[Forest]

1. Buy a mac.
2. Plug in an external disk.
3. Enable the built-in "Time Machine" backup software.
4. Relax knowing that this will never be a problem again.

[Max Preload]

Assuming you're using Outlook, as merv said, deleting the email places it in the deleted items. Deleting a folder places it as a sub folder of deleted items.

Does Outlook have an option to empty the deleted items folder on exit? I wouldn't know because I don't use it.

[3umph]

Does Outlook have an option to empty the deleted items folder on exit? I wouldn't know because I don't use it.

yip.... its in the options

[Mr Merde]

If you are using Outlook then go to tools and click on Recover deleted mail

This will give you the option of getting the ones back you need.

[Max Preload]

yip.... its in the options

So if the OP is using Outlook presumably, unless this option is enabled, the missing emails will still be there.

I have my email client Eudora Pro set to empty the Trash on exit.

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/uploads/andrew/5_apr07/owned_BSOD_1.png">

-Indy

[The Stranger]

Shift + Delete will permanently delete an item, no questions asked.



No, they can still be recovered from a PST file if "permanently" deleted - in most cases.

Use a hex editor to change the first n bytes to zeros then run the scanpst tool over the file.

Don't recall what n is off hand, but a search of the Internet should yield the answer.

[Gremlin]

mmmmm I love dealing with exchange and servers that archive a copy of every email :hug:

[Beemer]

Not sure exactly how I managed to do it, but shift + delete was the most likely answer! I had thought I was in the deleted folder (but must have been the inbox) when I did a Control A to delete everything - so when I then looked in the deleted folder, it was full, and I STUPIDLY decided to do a Control A again, and permanently delete everything. Then when I switched back to the inbox, it was empty. :weep:

I tried downloading an email recovery program (Recovery Toolbox) but when I checked what it had recovered, there were 14 old emails instead of the 100 or more recent ones, so I didn't opt to pay for it so I could get them back.

As for the hex editor stuff, total foreign language, so I'll have to leave that I'm afraid! I had set up my computer to do a weekly backup and a daily backup of Outlook but for some reason it had not been doing this. It is meant to do it when I shut Outlook but that doesn't appear to be happening either, so I'll have another look.

To be honest, apart from a few emails that came through this week, there probably wasn't anything there I'd lose sleep over. It was just bloody annoying though!

[MOTOXXX]

you know the worst thing about owning a mac is?

Telling your parents that your gay

[Tank]

you know the worst thing about owning a mac is?

Telling your parents that your gay

Ahh another junior IT bod who has yet to learn that its a case of using "the right tools for the job" and instead relys on what badge is on the front.

Mac jokes - seriously sad.

[3umph]

you know the worst thing about owning a mac is?

Telling your parents that your gay

sooo dam funny..... but soooo dam true :banana::banana::banana:

[Winston001]

What happens if you Search for ".pst" files?

And are we talking about Outlook - or Outlook Express?

[Beemer]

What happens if you Search for ".pst" files?

And are we talking about Outlook - or Outlook Express?

It came up with four files - one weird one, two emails I was aware of (and which are in the folders) and one other.

Using Outlook.

Macs are great - if I could have afforded one when I bought my last computer I would have gone for a Mac. And no, I'm not gay, just honest!

[Indiana_Jones]

Why does every computer related thread end up into a PC vs Mac vs Linux vs diddle fight lol

-Indy

[NOWOOL]

1. Buy a mac.
2. Plug in an external disk.
3. Enable the built-in "Time Machine" backup software.
4. Relax knowing that this will never be a problem again.

Buy a Mac? yeah, like most people like paying twice as much for a PC with the hardware from a 6 year old PC just to have a Apple logo and know that they can only use 3% of all the available software in the world.

Mac's are fashion statements akin to a Paris Hilton pooch. No one but Apple wou'd make a laptop without a replaceable battery!

just run system restore. it'll put back your old emails.

[Beemer]

just run system restore. it'll put back your old emails.

Wrong - this was one of the first things I tried and trust me, nothing came back from the dead!

[Tank]

Buy a Mac? yeah, like most people like paying twice as much for a PC with the hardware from a 6 year old PC just to have a Apple logo and know that they can only use 3% of all the available software in the world.

Mac's are fashion statements akin to a Paris Hilton pooch. No one but Apple wou'd make a laptop without a replaceable battery!

just run system restore. it'll put back your old emails.

sigh .... You will generally find they have all the software they need. There is a mac version of most things.

What they do well - they do extremely well. Graphics applications etc do run far, far faster on a mac - again its using the right tools for the job. To infer that its a fashon statement just shows your lack of acumen to think that people could have a different set of requirements than your good self.

and how you think that they have the same hardware as a 6yo pc - agian sigh.

disclaimer. I use a laptop for my business work - Mac for my personal work. Both work awesomly. Never had a problem with either. Im just clever enough to know when to use what.


edit: BTW - Intel based macs can run xp / vista without issue and any other PC software you want.

[NOWOOL]

it's still there until the old pst has been overwritten three times....... check this link out.

http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1pt1v0Q4vD8jSvNS4lqdAuug!391.entry

[MOTOXXX]

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

[NOWOOL]

sigh .... You will generally find they have all the software they need. There is a mac version of most things.

What they do well - they do extremely well. Graphics applications etc do run far, far faster on a mac - again its using the right tools for the job. To infer that its a fashon statement just shows your lack of acumen to think that people could have a different set of requirements than your good self.

and how you think that they have the same hardware as a 6yo pc - agian sigh.

disclaimer. I use a laptop for my business work - Mac for my personal work. Both work awesomly. Never had a problem with either. Im just clever enough to know when to use what.


edit: BTW - Intel based macs can run xp / vista without issue and any other PC software you want.


I'll address your points one at a time.....

1. Mac's dont' have all the software equivalents of PC's.....Most software mfr's don't write for Apple because there is only a 3% market...not worth a 3-5 year investment return. Meanwhile, all the 'good' industry software that was only available to Apple is now been re-coded to run on PC's and at lower cost than the Apple versions.

2. They DO NOT run complex graphics well....their GPU's along with their CPU's are the limiting factors why complex games and AI are not offered for Apple computers.

3 & 4. They are a fashion statement. I base that opinion on 25 years in software development and hardware compliance and a Master's in computer engineering. Mind you, I did use Apple computers and Mac's when they were first developed (same with Amiga's). When the PC became unlicenced for development and grew beyond what Apple could offer I went with what was best. If Apple grows beyond the confines of PC's then I'll go back.

5. Yes, you may be happy with what Apple computers you have and what limited uses they have for them. Mind you though, a x386 would still fullfill most people's computer needs.

6. Yes, Most Apple's will run XP, but stick Vista on them and you'll find Vista's hardware rating shows up as the system requirements as only marginal. THEY WON'T as you claim 'run any software I want".

Mind you Apple does do well at music players......I prefer Itunes and Ipods over the Windows equivalents. Would be nice if Apple had the foresight to have detachable batteries!

[Tank]

I'll address your points one at a time.....

1. Mac's dont' have all the software equivalents of PC's.....Most software mfr's don't write for Apple because there is only a 3% market...not worth a 3-5 year investment return. Meanwhile, all the 'good' industry software that was only available to Apple is now been re-coded to run on PC's and at lower cost than the Apple versions.

Wow - I must be mistaking. I have never had a problem finding applications for any requirements I have had.
2. They DO NOT run complex graphics well....their GPU's along with their CPU's are the limiting factors why complex games and AI are not offered for Apple computers.

Well - I wasnt actually talking gaming. But if we must (I kind of stopped playing at Doom). Generally your 'standard' pc wont run them very wel either - you have to go buy a big assed GPU - which you can easily spend another $1000 on. Not really compairing apples with apples.

I was refering to photoshop etc etc - and whatever arguments you make - I can tell - I have a highly speced pc and it is no where as fast as the mac at rendering changes - its light and day. I guess that is why so many media companys use macs - its the right tool for their job.

3 & 4. They are a fashion statement. I base that opinion on 25 years in software development and hardware compliance and a Master's in computer engineering. Mind you, I did use Apple computers and Mac's when they were first developed (same with Amiga's). When the PC became unlicenced for development and grew beyond what Apple could offer I went with what was best. If Apple grows beyond the confines of PC's then I'll go back.

meh - back 25 years ago they were using punch cards, and that means 2/10ths of fuck all now. Outside my office I have 60 developers. I know a little about development as well. I also understand business - and from that (and this is where my point was based) is that you use different tools for different requirements. A blanket all PC's are crap or all macs are gay is a ridiculous argument.

5. Yes, you may be happy with what Apple computers you have and what limited uses they have for them. Mind you though, a x386 would still fullfill most people's computer needs.

6. Yes, Most Apple's will run XP, but stick Vista on them and you'll find Vista's hardware rating shows up as the system requirements as only marginal.

Vista sucks ass on pretty much everything

Simple question - if you were having to spec hardware for a media company who created adertisments (lots of photoshop, image manipulation etc) - who you recommend PC's over Macs (you know with your masters in hardware and all?)

[Beemer]

it's still there until the old pst has been overwritten three times....... check this link out.

http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1pt1v0Q4vD8jSvNS4lqdAuug!391.entry

I looked at that but don't really know what I am meant to do. I found my backups but I don't understand what to do from there. Do I open them? When I try I get a message saying the personal folders are open or now that I have opened it, I can move folders - but then nothing. What is command prompt and where do I type that in? You are talking to a computer novice here, not a geek I'm afraid!

[Tank]

I looked at that but don't really know what I am meant to do. I found my backups but I don't understand what to do from there. Do I open them? When I try I get a message saying the personal folders are open or now that I have opened it, I can move folders - but then nothing. What is command prompt and where do I type that in? You are talking to a computer novice here, not a geek I'm afraid!

if you have no joy by tomorrow PM me.

I can remote desktop to your machine and have a look-see for you.

[Beemer]

if you have no joy by tomorrow PM me.

I can remote desktop to your machine and have a look-see for you.

Ta! Not that I can't live without them but it would be nice for future dumb moments.

Thank god I don't have a web cam on the desktop - I'd have to have a quick face lift before you did anything!

[NOWOOL]

4 years ago I woulda recommended Mac's just because it was the industry standard. Now, I'd weigh in 'office politics, ie; what they want you to use at work. speed wise, Photoshop works quicker on a equivalent PC (cost wise) compared to Apple's. If the company uses Mac's then that's what I'd use just to allow you to move up the corporate ladder. I would however, use both at home just in case you move onto another company that 'allows' PC's.

Yes, Vista does suck....don't blame me.....retired under XP.......Windows 7 goes back and fixes the wrongs (except for multiple GPU's so far).

[NOWOOL]

[QUOTE=Beemer;1945123]Ta! Not that I can't live without them but it would be nice for future dumb moments.QUOTE]

Basically, Its a two part fix.....the first part is to corrupt your PST the second is to fix it (along with retrieving everything that was deleted).

If it's too much email me your PST and I'll fix it.

Or as offered give Tank a try at fixing Windows Kernel Code!

[Beemer]

[QUOTE=Beemer;1945123]Ta! Not that I can't live without them but it would be nice for future dumb moments.QUOTE]

Basically, Its a two part fix.....the first part is to corrupt your PST the second is to fix it (along with retrieving everything that was deleted).

If it's too much email me your PST and I'll fix it.

Or as offered give Tank a try at fixing Windows Kernel Code!

Thanks everyone, but I don't know how to get the stuff you're asking for! Where do I find my pst to email it to you?

[NOWOOL]

Originally Posted by NOWOOL
I'll address your points one at a time.....

1. Mac's dont' have all the software equivalents of PC's.....Most software mfr's don't write for Apple because there is only a 3% market...not worth a 3-5 year investment return. Meanwhile, all the 'good' industry software that was only available to Apple is now been re-coded to run on PC's and at lower cost than the Apple versions.

Wow - I must be mistaking. I have never had a problem finding applications for any requirements I have had.
2. They DO NOT run complex graphics well....their GPU's along with their CPU's are the limiting factors why complex games and AI are not offered for Apple computers.

Well - I wasnt actually talking gaming. But if we must (I kind of stopped playing at Doom). Generally your 'standard' pc wont run them very wel either - you have to go buy a big assed GPU - which you can easily spend another $1000 on. Not really compairing apples with apples.

I was refering to photoshop etc etc - and whatever arguments you make - I can tell - I have a highly speced pc and it is no where as fast as the mac at rendering changes - its light and day. I guess that is why so many media companys use macs - its the right tool for their job.

3 & 4. They are a fashion statement. I base that opinion on 25 years in software development and hardware compliance and a Master's in computer engineering. Mind you, I did use Apple computers and Mac's when they were first developed (same with Amiga's). When the PC became unlicenced for development and grew beyond what Apple could offer I went with what was best. If Apple grows beyond the confines of PC's then I'll go back.

meh - back 25 years ago they were using punch cards, and that means 2/10ths of fuck all now. Outside my office I have 60 developers. I know a little about development as well. I also understand business - and from that (and this is where my point was based) is that you use different tools for different requirements. A blanket all PC's are crap or all macs are gay is a ridiculous argument.

5. Yes, you may be happy with what Apple computers you have and what limited uses they have for them. Mind you though, a x386 would still fullfill most people's computer needs.

6. Yes, Most Apple's will run XP, but stick Vista on them and you'll find Vista's hardware rating shows up as the system requirements as only marginal.

Vista sucks ass on pretty much everythingSimple question - if you were having to spec hardware for a media company who created adertisments (lots of photoshop, image manipulation etc) - who you recommend PC's over Macs (you know with your masters in hardware and all?)

Up till 4 years ago I was in the states...punch cards there went out in the 70's along with FORTRAN and COBAL. When I moved down here I did notice the computer world in NZ was about 10 years behind overseas.

I never said Mac's equate to "gay" the other poster eluded to that. My statement was about them being a fashion statement for a 'counter culture', like greenies, volvo's, handbags, pets and the lot. Sadly, depending on the office culture, what computer you use subjects you to abuse.

Personally, I have no loyalty to any 'brand'. I use the best tool for the job based on cost and performance. Just like why I'm working out what touring bike to buy based on input, not style.

[Tank]

Personally, I have no loyalty to any 'brand'. I use the best tool for the job based on cost and performance. Just like why I'm working out what touring bike to buy based on input, not style.

if you read my post - that was exactly what I was saying (several times).

Now thats sorted - and it looks like one OP emails you the .pst the original issue will be resolved (if indeed it can be).

Bringing you to the important question of the bike. Well since you want a great touring bike, not based on style then - go the mighty V-Strom.

Seriously - awesome bike - but it is so ugly it has on occasion been referred to as the Helen Clarke of Motorcycles.

[NOWOOL]

[QUOTE=NOWOOL;1945134]

Thanks everyone, but I don't know how to get the stuff you're asking for! Where do I find my pst to email it to you?

You'll find it in:
C:\Documents and Settings\User Profile\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Archive.pst

The Local Settings folder is hidden by default, to make it visible go to Control Panel, Folder Options, View tab, and show hidden files and folders. You can then attach it to an email and email it to me.....*

lookin' forward to all the hate mails now that my email is exposed!

[Tank]

Up till 4 years ago I was in the states...punch cards there went out in the 70's along with FORTRAN and COBAL. When I moved down here I did notice the computer world in NZ was about 10 years behind overseas..

I cannot see how you would think that we are 10 years behind the US. I travel there for work alot. I have lectured there on IT systems (about 8 times).

We have 4 staff here working in situ at Redmond with MS this week on the next generation of workflow products.

Cant say I ever noticed NZ being in the dark ages. hell - we even got us a youtube site now.

[NOWOOL]

if you read my post - that was exactly what I was saying (several times).

Now thats sorted - and it looks like one OP emails you the .pst the original issue will be resolved (if indeed it can be).

Bringing you to the important question of the bike. Well since you want a great touring bike, not based on style then - go the mighty V-Strom.

Seriously - awesome bike - but it is so ugly it has on occasion been referred to as the Helen Clarke of Motorcycles.

Yeah, I'll try to help with the PST. hopefully he'll find it based on instructions and be able to attach it to an email (personally, I try to keep people from using offline email programs).

I am considering the V-Strom...its in my top 4! I prefer substance over style any day (except in a wife). Since I'm looking at two-up riding with luggage I'm leaning towards the 1000.

[Tank]

Yeah, I'll try to help with the PST. hopefully he'll find it based on instructions and be able to attach it to an email (personally, I try to keep people from using offline email programs).

I am considering the V-Strom...its in my top 4! I prefer substance over style any day (except in a wife). Since I'm looking at two-up riding with luggage I'm leaning towards the 1000.

so - what are the other 3?

[NOWOOL]

I cannot see how you would think that we are 10 years behind the US. I travel there for work alot. I have lectured there on IT systems (about 8 times).

We have 4 staff here working in situ at Redmond with MS this week on the next generation of workflow products.

Cant say I ever noticed NZ being in the dark ages. hell - we even got us a youtube site now.

Well, I wasn't far from the MS campus in technically, Bellevue....I was 7 miles down the hill at the Bear Creek Campus. My work was in DX and hardware.

[NOWOOL]

so - what are the other 3?
the other three are: Bandit 1250 touring, 1200 GS, and the K1300. I'm older now and looking for reliabilty and comfort. The R1200 bothers me needing valve adjustments since I'd have to travel and trust the Otago Honda for maintenance.

[NOWOOL]

[QUOTE=Tank;1945184]I cannot see how you would think that we are 10 years behind the US. I travel there for work alot. I have lectured there on IT systems (about 8 times). QUOTE]

the comment about 'being 10 years behind' was about the hardware in use and the compentcy of the engineers when I arrived here. Mind you, I do know it takes a while for new tech to get approved for export from the US, but NZ is well behind even Mexico on implementation. In Auckland I waited a year for 1st gen adsl.
It wasn't meant as a smear against Kiwis...I love NZ.

[Beemer]

You'll find it in:
C:\Documents and Settings\User Profile\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Archive.pst

The Local Settings folder is hidden by default, to make it visible go to Control Panel, Folder Options, View tab, and show hidden files and folders. You can then attach it to an email and email it to me.....

lookin' forward to all the hate mails now that my email is exposed!

I'm doing all that now - you can remove your email address as I've got it in an email ready to go when I've got the stuff together!

I have gone in and done what you said to show the hidden files and folders, but I'm still having trouble finding what you're after. I can't find a Documents and settings part on my C drive. Am I blind or looking in the wrong place?

[NOWOOL]

[QUOTE=NOWOOL;1945176]

I'm doing all that now - you can remove your email address as I've got it in an email ready to go when I've got the stuff together!

will do....

[Beemer]

Yeah, I'll try to help with the PST. hopefully he'll find it based on instructions and be able to attach it to an email (personally, I try to keep people from using offline email programs).

Crikey, hope you'll still be willing to help once you know I'm actually a she!

[NOWOOL]

I'm raised by a single mom....no biased based on sex....except my mom kinda set the bar for newcomers! lol

just my mistake of useing maths and logic for picking the sex.....males ask for help.....females fix things. : )

[Beemer]

I'm raised by a single mom....no biased based on sex....except my mom kinda set the bar for newcomers! lol

just my mistake of useing maths and logic for picking the sex.....males ask for help.....females fix things. : )

Flatterer - I AM trying to fix things, just don't know where to look - sent you an email but still waiting to hear where I can find these pesky documents and settings - I can only find a documents folder and am pretty sure that's not what I'm after.

[NOWOOL]

Flatterer - I AM trying to fix things, just don't know where to look - sent you an email but still waiting to hear where I can find these pesky documents and settings - I can only find a documents folder and am pretty sure that's not what I'm after.

Ok, what you want to view is the C:drive......copy and paste the following in the top of any folder you are viewing....... C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Mapi\1033
inside there will be a file called .pst

if you don't see it..open any folder....then click on the ' tools' on the top of your window bar and click on 'folder Options'..... when that pops up click on the 'view' tab .....go do the menu and check 'hide hidden files and folders'..... and uncheck the box for 'Hide protected operating files and folder.....then go back and view or paste into a window....... C:\Documents and Settings\User Profile\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\ .. there you will find your pst file

if you are in the Dunedin area.....just bring your computer up to middlemarch and I'll fix it for free. Stop in the local dairy say you met a biker that fixes computers and I'll sure they'll point you to me.

[Beemer]

Aagggghhhh - not working! I've tried both and each time I get an error message saying it could not be found and to check the spelling! I can now see the documents and settings folder, but it has a little arrow in the corner (like a shortcut on the desktop) and when I try opening it, I get told I it is not accessible and access is denied. I tried to see if there was an option to open as administrator but there isn't.

If it makes any difference, I've got a Compaq Presario running Vista Home Professional.

Thanks for the invitation to pretty Middlemarch (home of lots of single men, I hear!) but Levin's a tad too far away to do that this week!

Edited to add - did a bit more hunting and think I've found what you were asking for - it didn't work by copying and pasting the location in, but I did open the program files folder and found the common files and the system and the Mapi and the 1033 - and I've just copied and pasted it into an email to you. Phew - got there in the end - I think!

[NOWOOL]

Nah, that's not the right file......I've just emailed you step by step instructions.

[Beemer]

Damn, couldn't get the options you emailed me to appear, so still not sure what file to email. When I open the documents folder and click on searches, there is no 'other' tab so I can't get to the advanced search ... choose hidden and system folders ... and therefore can't type pst in the search box and then email you the pst file.

Hey, maybe my computer is a moron too?!!!

[Max Preload]

Do you still have the box your computer came in? :wari:

[Beemer]

Do you still have the box your computer came in? :wari:

Very funny, now get back in YOUR box!

I know from posting on computer help sites that I am NOT the only one to have done this - but so far I appear to have been the ONLY female...

[cs363]

Aagggghhhh - not working! I've tried both and each time I get an error message saying it could not be found and to check the spelling! I can now see the documents and settings folder, but it has a little arrow in the corner (like a shortcut on the desktop) and when I try opening it, I get told I it is not accessible and access is denied. I tried to see if there was an option to open as administrator but there isn't.

If it makes any difference, I've got a Compaq Presario running Vista Home Professional.

Thanks for the invitation to pretty Middlemarch (home of lots of single men, I hear!) but Levin's a tad too far away to do that this week!

Edited to add - did a bit more hunting and think I've found what you were asking for - it didn't work by copying and pasting the location in, but I did open the program files folder and found the common files and the system and the Mapi and the 1033 - and I've just copied and pasted it into an email to you. Phew - got there in the end - I think!



FWIW: Default location of .pst file in Windows Vista is

drive:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook.

[cs363]

One other thing it might pay to clarify - are you actually using Outlook and/or Outlook Express OR Windows Mail (default application in Vista)?

[NOWOOL]

Beemer,

According to your email you are on the right track. the file is called Outlook.pst It'll look like the shortcut for your outlook program. You don't want to try to 'open' the file itself. you just want to copy it to your desktop and attach it to an email.

[Beemer]

Yep, using Outlook and Vista - will try what NOWOOL suggests and see if that works.

Mind you, the bloody inbox is almost as full of crap now as it was the day I deleted everything!

Um, just copied and pasted that file into an email and it's 167MB - I'm thinking you will NOT be keen for me to email that to you, so I won't until I hear back. It is showing as an attachment in the email as Outlook.pst so I'm thinking it's the right one this time, but it's a bit bloody big! Also, it's showing it was last modified 9/06/2007 so it's not going to have anything recent on it.

[Beemer]

FWIW: Default location of .pst file in Windows Vista is

drive:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook.

Unfortunately when I try and open the AppData folder I get a message to say access is denied.

[cs363]

Unfortunately when I try and open the AppData folder I get a message to say access is denied.

I'm guessing you don't have administrator rights with the user account you are using then. Go to Control Panel\User Accounts and you'll be able to check that one out :)

[Max Preload]

Very funny, now get back in YOUR box!

I'm here all week, folks! :shutup:

Sounds like the account you're logged in as is a pleb user one with very few rights. Might want to try logging in as Administrator if you know the password...

[cs363]

Not sure where you are up to with this, but this seems helpful if nothing else has worked for you: http://bhandler.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1pt1v0Q4vD8jSvNS4lqdAuug!391.entry

Note: For Vista 64 bit to find scanpst.exe go here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033

Note: As previously mentioned -you'll need to have administrator rights to do all this succesfully.

[cs363]

Might want to try logging in as Administrator if you know the password...


Hmm....that thought just went through my mind! Was hoping that someone else hasn't set the computer up and password protected the administrator account! :rolleyes: :)

[Max Preload]

Hmm....that thought just went through my mind! Was hoping that someone else hasn't set the computer up and password protected the administrator account! :rolleyes: :)

Perish the thought! Not like anyone's ever done that or set up a wireless router and left the admin password as the default or changed it and not told the customer the new one...

Mind you, more often than not they are changed and told and the customer promptly forgets or discards it thinking "I don't want to know all those useless details! I just use Word and send email!"

[cs363]

Perish the thought! Not like anyone's ever done that or set up a wireless router and left the admin password as the default or changed it an not told the customer of the new one...

Yeah....you're right.....it'd never happen.



:rofl: :apint:

[Beemer]

I'm guessing you don't have administrator rights with the user account you are using then. Go to Control Panel\User Accounts and you'll be able to check that one out :)

It has me as administrator and when using Hijack This I get the choice to run as administrator so there shouldn't be any problem there. I don't (as far as I know) have a password on the computer and I certainly haven't changed anything.

I have a wireless router but (I know) don't have a password on that - I'd like to know how to add one though so the neighbours (if they were close enough) can't access it without my knowledge.

[cs363]

Try disabling your anti virus program and then trying to access that folder. I've heard that some av programs can cause you to get that message when accessing folders on Vista. Not sure if that's true but won't do any harm to try. :)

Oh and make sure you are clicking on the folder, not an icon of a folder with a shortcut arrow on it.

[Beemer]

Try disabling your anti virus program and then trying to access that folder. I've heard that some av programs can cause you to get that message when accessing folders on Vista. Not sure if that's true but won't do any harm to try. :)

Oh and make sure you are clicking on the folder, not an icon of a folder with a shortcut arrow on it.

Managed to find it here - C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\MSMAPI\1033 without having to disable anything. This was different from the last instructions to open this - drive:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook.

It is called SCANPST.EXE and is 45KB. Again, not sure if this is what is needed, and again, it was last modified in 2007 I think.

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact the emails have gone for good but you guys are trying so hard to help it would be churlish to stop now!

Added - Outlook blocked me sending the attachment! It said it could be potentially unsafe to send it and the other person's computer may not be able to open it, then asked if I still wanted to send it anyway, to which I clicked yes. But the copy of the sent email had no attachment and a note at the top to say Outlook had blocked access to the attachment, so I doubt NOWOOL even got it.

Thanks for all your help, but I think we're stuffed!

[NOWOOL]

Hi Beemer,
I've emailed you a link to a free software tool that should do the job.
I'll save the agony of finding the pst and attaching it.

lemme know how it works!

[NOWOOL]

If you want to add a password on your wireless router, the easiest and safest way of doing it is with the disc that came with your router or have a friend that is familiar with the cpanel do it for you. Mind you, you will have to change the settings on your laptop to access your protected signal afterwards.
If you live in an apartment or condo having an unprotected signal would pose a problem....if you are in a house with a bit of land (half acre) the signal would probably to weak for anyone to use. Just walk around the property with your laptop and check the signal.
*hint* if you can't login to your router to change settings then read your manual. there's a tiny button on your router to reset it back to factory settings usually, by depressing and holding for 10 secs (of course this wipes out your current settings!).

[Gremlin]

I don't think I have ever come across a cd to "help" the install of a router/wireless ap etc that actually worked. <_<

Good thing I just set them up myself, and retain all the configs?

[NOWOOL]

I don't think I have ever come across a cd to "help" the install of a router/wireless ap etc that actually worked. <_<

Good thing I just set them up myself, and retain all the configs?

I agree, its best to do it by hand, but if the router came from their internet supplier then the settings will work via cd.....if not, then telecom or whoever can talk them through the ppoa, mux, etc at each stage of the setup cd.
Next to imposssible to walk a novice through over the phone using admin login.

[Beemer]

I should be safe then - we've got three acres! And house is about 80m from road and about 60m from closest neighbour. Haven't noticed any huge spikes in usage since I got wireless access.

[NOWOOL]

Hi Beemer,

I hadn't forgot about you....

i'm emailing the link now....If that program doesn't work I'll find another one!

[Beemer]

Thanks, just got it and am in the process of installing, etc. Will let you know how I get on.