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Donut
20th February 2009, 15:36
finally got my hyoslut running after the last accident XD took it out last night for a short blat and man is it fucked, all the fairing brackets are bent so just riding it has made it shatter the fairing, then wen i was going round a corner in 3rd and went to shift up it went into what i thought was a false neutral, so i tryed to kick it down 2 and it still seemed like it was in neutral reving its ass off. then i noticed my backwheel was coming out in a bad way (oh shit not again, same corner i broke my back on) so i pulled over and had a look at the bike and all i saw was this mass patch of oil, the bolt of the front sprocket had come off and the seals around it r fukd covered everything in oil, not sure if the gearbox has shit itself yet soon to find out tho
but at the end of the day its a hyoslut and what can you expect :) wont b long now and ill have my cbr600 09 :D so i might aswell run the hyosluts face into the road
Harvd
20th February 2009, 17:02
Ow on a 1 year old bike too. yay for quality control
riffer
20th February 2009, 17:13
Quality control? Hyosung fails?
Ya what?
You're bitching because you crashed your bike and it's not right?
Did you hit your head when you crashed or something?
*sigh*
Donut
20th February 2009, 17:21
lol nope i broke my back, pretty sure that not my head o.O i know that the bail dont help bla bla bla however i have never had a problem with this sort of thing with any other make and dont hear of it from anyone else, even my mechanic cracked up laughing and took the piss out of hyosluts... the bit i dont get is why people actually try to defend them, good for the moeny bla bla bla but at the end of the day they r still crap
Grizzo
20th February 2009, 17:31
lol nope i broke my back, pretty sure that not my head o.O i know that the bail dont help bla bla bla however i have never had a problem with this sort of thing with any other make and dont hear of it from anyone else, even my mechanic cracked up laughing and took the piss out of hyosluts... the bit i dont get is why people actually try to defend them, good for the moeny bla bla bla but at the end of the day they r still crap
Ive known a couple of people with hyobags, and neither of them had any probs with them other than the usual moans of being underpowered.
3umph
20th February 2009, 17:44
so I take it you are moaning due to a crash and its not properly fixed???
if not it sounds that way... not the bikes fault then
Donut
20th February 2009, 17:52
nah hand the mechanic fix everything, cost alot too then it decided to do that. Its not the only problem ive had with the lemon which is why i hav no compliments for them especially after hearing all the other bad shit about them... end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs, as bad as a fukn harley and just as underpowered
Ixion
20th February 2009, 17:54
..i know that the bail dont help bla bla bla however i have never had a problem with this sort of thing with any other make and dont hear of it from anyone else, ..
You have extensive experience of crashing other makes, and the mechanical after-effects thereof ?
Mom
20th February 2009, 17:59
nah hand the mechanic fix everything, cost alot too then it decided to do that. Its not the only problem ive had with the lemon which is why i hav no compliments for them especially after hearing all the other bad shit about them... end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs, as bad as a fukn harley and just as underpowered
Where to start?
I will do a :hitcher: to start with, probably miss a few though.
Sounds like you were lucky not to come to grief again today. Who did those repairs for you anyway?
3umph
20th February 2009, 18:04
Sorry but if it has just been done then I would take it back to the mechanic that did the job as obviously not repaired properly...
finally got my hyoslut running after the last accident XD took it out last night for a short blat and man is it fucked, all the fairing brackets are bent so just riding it has made it shatter the fairing
bet they were straight from new and only bent from the accident so that not the bikes fault.... did the mechanic not straighten and align them????
then wen i was going round a corner in 3rd and went to shift up it went into what i thought was a false neutral, so i tryed to kick it down 2 and it still seemed like it was in neutral reving its ass off. then i noticed my backwheel was coming out in a bad way (oh shit not again, same corner i broke my back on) so i pulled over and had a look at the bike and all i saw was this mass patch of oil, the bolt of the front sprocket had come off and the seals around it r fukd covered everything in oil, not sure if the gearbox has shit itself yet soon to find out tho
After an accidents its amazing what can be broken that's not picked up...
I'm sure the Hyosung came from the factory originally in top condition and would have quality controls in place... if it's only a year old and crapping out due to factory/mechanical faults other then accident dammage then take it back to the dealer for a warranty claim
tri boy
20th February 2009, 18:13
end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs,
Hyosung has been supplying parts to "the Japs" for twenty years.
Maybe your mechanic didn't sort it out toally. Just saying.;)
Donut
20th February 2009, 19:04
You have extensive experience of crashing other makes, and the mechanical after-effects thereof ?
YES! im an expert crasher
Donut
20th February 2009, 19:08
wasnt saying the fairing wasnt from the accident, i knoiw it was, quality and hyosung dont mix, check my older threads about that ive not had a verry good experience with them in every aspect, espicially after the dealership changed hands 3 times in hamilton and got stuck with the worst customer service i have ever experienced from supacross cycles
Sorry but if it has just been done then I would take it back to the mechanic that did the job as obviously not repaired properly...
bet they were straight from new and only bent from the accident so that not the bikes fault.... did the mechanic not straighten and align them????
After an accidents its amazing what can be broken that's not picked up...
I'm sure the Hyosung came from the factory originally in top condition and would have quality controls in place... if it's only a year old and crapping out due to factory/mechanical faults other then accident dammage then take it back to the dealer for a warranty claim
riffer
20th February 2009, 19:16
wasnt saying the fairing wasnt from the accident, i knoiw it was, quality and hyosung dont mix
I'm not convinced.
I personally know of one Hyosung (bull's) which was in factory condition the day he sold it. Now he had it about 18 months, did about 20,000 kms on it and it never missed a beat.
And anyone who knows bull knows he isn't little. If the bike wasn't good quality he would have worn it out really quick.
Plus, weren't Hyosung responsible for manufacture of the SV650 engines for Suzuki?
They may not be top of the line, but I reckon they're the equal of many Japanese bikes at the same price level, and definitely way better than Chinese manufactured motorcycles.
Provided you are willing to maintain them properly, I'd recommend them to anybody.
3umph
20th February 2009, 19:20
They may not be top of the line, but I reckon they're the equal of many Japanese bikes at the same price level, and definitely way better than Chinese manufactured motorcycles.
Provided you are willing to maintain them properly, I'd recommend them to anybody.
yip yip yip
Donut
20th February 2009, 19:21
this depends on how its ridden too, if its 20000 comuter or sitting on 100 then its hardly had a difficult life and i wouldnt expect anything to have problems, this is just one person i have had issues caused by dealerships not putting the bike togeather properly, cheap brakes and fixtures a faulty tacho and more... i gues it comes down to personal experience and mine has not been good so there wont be any opinion changing for me, my mind is made and there shit.... hey im entitled to my opinion arnt i ? and so are myou i gues what we need to see is what the majority thinks, and i mean people that have ownd them no peaople who know people or talked to some one ......
I'm not convinced.
I personally know of one Hyosung (bull's) which was in factory condition the day he sold it. Now he had it about 18 months, did about 20,000 kms on it and it never missed a beat.
And anyone who knows bull knows he isn't little. If the bike wasn't good quality he would have worn it out really quick.
Plus, weren't Hyosung responsible for manufacture of the SV650 engines for Suzuki?
They may not be top of the line, but I reckon they're the equal of many Japanese bikes at the same price level, and definitely way better than Chinese manufactured motorcycles.
Provided you are willing to maintain them properly, I'd recommend them to anybody.
325rocket
20th February 2009, 19:23
I'm not convinced.
I personally know of one Hyosung (bull's) which was in factory condition the day he sold it.
so was mine. never had a problem.
Provided you are willing to maintain them properly, I'd recommend them to anybody.
yep same. i would have liked to keep mine as well as my cbr but needed the cash.
riffer
20th February 2009, 19:25
hey im entitled to my opinion arnt i ? and so are myou i gues what we need to see is what the majority thinks, and i mean people that have ownd them no peaople who know people or talked to some one ......
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But please, you can't use your example as a ruling on ALL Hyosungs.
That's like gixxers can't go around corners 'cause so many of them seem to crash...
riffer
20th February 2009, 19:26
so was mine. never had a problem.
This is obviously because you are a man who knows how to look after things properly. :cool:
DingoZ
20th February 2009, 19:28
I have a GT250R - Bought it brand new from TSS in Lower Hutt. Has not failed me once. Still going strong. Serviced on the dot at the regular intervals at TSS, and nothing has gone wrong with the bike. Nothing has fallen off it. Everything works. Happy with the purchase of it actually. Would be keeping mine except I am upgrading. So mine is on the market...:)
325rocket
20th February 2009, 19:32
That's like gixxers can't go around corners 'cause so many of them seem to crash...
no no no, its because they all have cracked frames ...:cool:
riffer
20th February 2009, 19:33
no no no, its because they all have cracked frames ...:cool:
You know what - I heard that the biggest problem was the nut between the handlbars and the seat...
325rocket
20th February 2009, 19:38
You know what - I heard that the biggest problem was the nut between the handlbars and the seat...
i think 99% of the time most bike problems come down to that very nut
breakaway
20th February 2009, 20:54
You mean the nut that holds the tank on the bike?
3umph
20th February 2009, 21:06
You mean the nut that holds the tank on the bike?
yip the old nut that sits aboard the seat and hold the bars
Donut
20th February 2009, 21:10
lol i love it, your funny
You mean the nut that holds the tank on the bike?
nivram
20th February 2009, 22:17
15,000ks on my Hyo from new and not a single problem, like any bike there is always going to be the odd lemon that slips through the quality control process.
For the $$ the Hyo is bloody good value and would recommend them any day.
xwhatsit
20th February 2009, 22:25
Man, so this guy totals his bike, gets some cheap mechanic to `fix it', it shits itself, and somehow it's Hyosung's fault? Give me a break.
Benjiboi
20th February 2009, 23:05
Did the fairing bend because the brackets are bent, or because they were not repaired properly?
Hyosung manufactured the SV650 under license for Suzuki for years until they entered the motorcycle industry themselves.
My Hyo is pretty good, 15000kms and only the regular maintenance required.
Sometimes its not the bike but the rider.....
Donut
20th February 2009, 23:48
are you blind or just stupid?? i have already said i have had alot of problems before the bike got stacked, its been a lemon from day 1, first time i did the loop one of my front calipers fell off, another time the front brake leaver clicked for 1 to 6 and went against the bars, at 160 into a corner and no front brakes it was a bit scarey. i have had the rear master cylinder seize on me 3 times now because the rubber boot on it is useless it just comes down to personal experience and mine is bad so i cant say much good about them and although they may not all b like that its set my opinion on them. its funny how you never hear anything good about them untill you jump on kiwibiker and everyone gets all up'y because you dont like them yet if i ask anyone in person they cant stop saying how shit they are. even the dealer i bought it from says there crap and that they are always having problems with them ...... i keep it well maintained especially after owning 2 bang motor cross bikes i know the importance of it all and am always giving the bike a good once over
Man, so this guy totals his bike, gets some cheap mechanic to `fix it', it shits itself, and somehow it's Hyosung's fault? Give me a break.
breakaway
21st February 2009, 00:53
You bought a hyosung, what did you expect?
DingoZ
21st February 2009, 01:40
, at 160 into a corner
hahahahahahaha :thud: 160 into a corner on a hyo.....:Pokey:....:lol:..
BiK3RChiK
21st February 2009, 06:47
hahahahahahaha :thud: 160 into a corner on a hyo.....:Pokey:....:lol:..
and if it had the original shock on it, it's a wonder he and the bike didn't depart company after hitting some gravel and ending up in a hedge someplace!
I've had the odd little issue with mine, but overall for the $$ I'm happy. I've kept it maintained and had the shop service it at regular intervals. I've just changed the shock on mine, and am much happier with it. It's smoother over bumps (it left the ground on rough bridges with the original shock on) and can corner way better now. Next thing is emulators in the front forks...
Donut
21st February 2009, 13:02
whats the point putting money into it when you can just put the money into a new bigger bike, learners licence is a quick thing to get past so i dont see how you get any returns spending money on a hyoslut or any 250 unless you race it or its an aprillia in which case theres not much u need to buy
and if it had the original shock on it, it's a wonder he and the bike didn't depart company after hitting some gravel and ending up in a hedge someplace!
I've had the odd little issue with mine, but overall for the $$ I'm happy. I've kept it maintained and had the shop service it at regular intervals. I've just changed the shock on mine, and am much happier with it. It's smoother over bumps (it left the ground on rough bridges with the original shock on) and can corner way better now. Next thing is emulators in the front forks...
Gubb
21st February 2009, 13:08
whats the point putting money into it when you can just put the money into a new bigger bike, learners licence is a quick thing to get past so i dont see how you get any returns spending money on a hyoslut or any 250 unless you race it or its an aprillia in which case theres not much u need to buy
So you bought a new bike instead of a used one because.........
Donut
21st February 2009, 13:23
didnt want something 20 years old that needs a wof every 6 months and costs a fortune to fix anything, and im tall so it was the most comfortable bike for me to ride.... oh and i could afford it
So you bought a new bike instead of a used one because.........
nivram
21st February 2009, 20:10
whats the point putting money into it when you can just put the money into a new bigger bike, learners licence is a quick thing to get past so i dont see how you get any returns spending money on a hyoslut or any 250 unless you race it or its an aprillia in which case theres not much u need to buy
I've had my 6F for a couple of months now and have no plans to upgrade to a bigger bike for a while quite happy with the Hyo for a while yet. The reason I purchased the Hyo was with the intention to keep the bike after I gained my 6F, for sure when most gain their full they can't wait to move to a bigger bike but that's not the case for everyone.
I'm not expecting any return when I do get round to trading the bike and if I can I will keep the Hyo as a second bike as we all know there worth very little as a trade.
Oh and how the fck did you get the Hyobay upto 160kmh??? :confused:
ital916
21st February 2009, 22:15
finally got my hyoslut running after the last accident XD took it out last night for a short blat and man is it fucked, all the fairing brackets are bent so just riding it has made it shatter the fairing, then wen i was going round a corner in 3rd and went to shift up it went into what i thought was a false neutral, so i tryed to kick it down 2 and it still seemed like it was in neutral reving its ass off. then i noticed my backwheel was coming out in a bad way (oh shit not again, same corner i broke my back on) so i pulled over and had a look at the bike and all i saw was this mass patch of oil, the bolt of the front sprocket had come off and the seals around it r fukd covered everything in oil, not sure if the gearbox has shit itself yet soon to find out tho
but at the end of the day its a hyoslut and what can you expect :) wont b long now and ill have my cbr600 09 :D so i might aswell run the hyosluts face into the road
I am impressed with the quality of hyosungs I have seen, they are built to a budget and their manufacturing quality has increased in leaps and bounds since I first laid eyes on them.
They are a good bike for the price one pays and have good support behind them.
As shocking as it may seem to hear it but even japanese bikes have problems and their are complaints with their quality control and manufacture as well. No bike manufacturer is perfect.
The problem is when one crashes their bike, in a serious accident it is usually best in my opinion to say bye to the bike and get another.
ital916
21st February 2009, 22:16
I've had my 6F for a couple of months now and have no plans to upgrade to a bigger bike for a while quite happy with the Hyo for a while yet. The reason I purchased the Hyo was with the intention to keep the bike after I gained my 6F, for sure when most gain their full they can't wait to move to a bigger bike but that's not the case for everyone.
I'm not expecting any return when I do get round to trading the bike and if I can I will keep the Hyo as a second bike as we all know there worth very little as a trade.
Oh and how the fck did you get the Hyobay upto 160kmh??? :confused:
probably by using all the gears :laugh:
ital916
21st February 2009, 22:19
whats the point putting money into it when you can just put the money into a new bigger bike, learners licence is a quick thing to get past so i dont see how you get any returns spending money on a hyoslut or any 250 unless you race it or its an aprillia in which case theres not much u need to buy
because believe it or not 250s arent that bad, some people are happy with them and keep them after their full licence is done.
NZ is going the way of america with its obsession for cc. The hyobag reaches the speed limit quick enough and can sit at 120 happily so yeah on the road if yer being sensible why not put a little money into it.
Only trouble come when passing opportunities arise and there isnt enough juice to get past.
McJim
21st February 2009, 22:26
When you can't afford Italian you buy American.
If you can't afford American you can buy British.
When you can't afford British you buy Japanese.
If you can't afford Japanese you buy Korean.
If you have no self respect whatsoever.....you buy Chinese :rofl:
Benjiboi
21st February 2009, 23:49
Despite the troubles you have had I am happy with my hyo, it has been pretty good to me and easy to maintain.
I don't think its fair to judge an entire company on your one bike.
p.s. I have had my hyo up to 170km but it was going down hill, does that count???
tri boy
22nd February 2009, 08:48
When you can't afford Italian you buy American.
If you can't afford American you can buy British.
When you can't afford British you buy Japanese.
If you can't afford Japanese you buy Korean.
If you have no self respect whatsoever.....you buy Chinese :rofl:
Take a guess at how many Chinese parts are being fitted to Italian bikes.
You do realise that the new BMW 450 enduro engine is completely made by Kymco out of Korea?
Chinese electronics are popping up on Suzi's Honda's, Harleys, and yes, even Ducati's. Best you order your grasshopper soup recipe now.:shifty:
Bonez
22nd February 2009, 10:04
Take a guess at how many Chinese parts are being fitted to Italian bikes.
You do realise that the new BMW 450 enduro engine is completely made by Kymco out of Korea?
Chinese electronics are popping up on Suzi's Honda's, Harleys, and yes, even Ducati's. Best you order your grasshopper soup recipe now.:shifty:Now now. You'll have them in tears.........:crybaby:
nivram
22nd February 2009, 10:28
because believe it or not 250s arent that bad, some people are happy with them and keep them after their full licence is done.
NZ is going the way of america with its obsession for cc. The hyobag reaches the speed limit quick enough and can sit at 120 happily so yeah on the road if yer being sensible why not put a little money into it.
Only trouble come when passing opportunities arise and there isnt enough juice to get past.
Yeah too right passing at speed on the Hyo can be along drawn out episode, that's the downside of the 250 power.
Bonez
22nd February 2009, 10:38
Yeah too right passing at speed on the Hyo can be along drawn out episode, that's the downside of the 250 power.Putting things in persrective those Hyo 250s have more oomph then my 400 single.
obxbiker
23rd February 2009, 14:18
Take a guess at how many Chinese parts are being fitted to Italian bikes.
You do realise that the new BMW 450 enduro engine is completely made by Kymco out of Korea?
Chinese electronics are popping up on Suzi's Honda's, Harleys, and yes, even Ducati's. Best you order your grasshopper soup recipe now.:shifty:
Just a small correction, Kymco is NOT Korean, its Taiwanese. Which is NOT ''Chinese''.
Not only do they make the BMW 450 engine but they also make hundreds of parts for dozens of other manufacturers.
Know you motorcycle history,this is a Global economy.All manufacturers historically have make 'start-up' company's to out source for cheaper labor, it was done in the past (Hyosung, Kymco initially majority controlled by Suzy & Honda) and is now being done even more by all of them. Check the presence of all the company's who right now have manufacturing plants in other countries. (China, Vietnam,India, etc... too many to list) Some day they to will control the plants in there own countries under who knows what name and at that point their will still be some Bikerslut/Dealerslut who whines all the time like a baby cuz its easier then taking responsibility thenselves which in most cases (like all brands) is their own fault.
Almost all problems for established bike companies can be attributed to the owner and in many, many cases the ''Dealiar'' who sold it and has no idea how to fix them.Strange how when a ''my bike whiner'' posts they always say the dealiar says so too... wonder why....DUH
Mainland China right now is like Korea and Taiwan was 20-30 years ago, and like the ''Big Jap Four' was 40 years ago.
GrayWolf
23rd February 2009, 18:13
nah hand the mechanic fix everything, cost alot too then it decided to do that. Its not the only problem ive had with the lemon which is why i hav no compliments for them especially after hearing all the other bad shit about them... end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs, as bad as a fukn harley and just as underpowered
Tell you what, go ride an RD250 air cooled Yamaha. Underpowered? ya bloody Hyo is as quick on top speed, and the RD was the dogs bollox in it's day. Handling and brakes? FFS grow up, the modern brake systems are far superior to then and well if you want to discuss dodgy handling characteristics?? Ask those of us who owned RD's etc about the plastic YES, PLASTIC swinging arm bushes on RD's and early ones had no grease nipples. And the 45 watt headlight (non halogen), and the shitty shocks, forks and tyres of the day.
If you want a reminder of how badly the Japanese can screw it up?? Google the Yamaha TX750, the 500 twin (4 valve) of the day. Read up on the handling of the Kwacka 500 & 750 triples, the swinging arm 'flex' on early Z900's. Suzuki GT250 (ram air) handling, GT 750's lovely motor, drinks petrol like a drunken sailor, chews drive chains. All manufacturers make an occasional 'dog' sometimes it is a complete model range (TX750).
The Japanese made mistakes in the early mass market years, they have 30+ years of massive worldwide sales and model development to fall back on. Hyo is a relative 'newcomer' They arent a bad wee bike!
rphenix
24th February 2009, 18:09
Quality control? Hyosung fails?
Ya what?
You're bitching because you crashed your bike and it's not right?
Did you hit your head when you crashed or something?
*sigh*
+1! it sounds like the bike wasnt repaired right...:yawn:
Fub@r
24th February 2009, 18:58
So in all you have had 2 crashes and one near death experience on this bike so far?
You are riding a bike built for portion of the market. Eg nice looking 250 learner bike built on a budget. Yet you ride it like its some high performance top of the line track bike and then you wonder why things wear out or start to break?
I have used my Hyo everday since I bought it, its a 2006 model approaching 30,000km. Besides having the clutch cable snap twice I have had no problems. The CDI unit flat spot was easily fixed with a snip.
Reading through your post history you will not find me racing towards a T intersection at over 160kph and expect my Hyosung to stop on a dime, then when something goes wrong its the bikes fault and you are blameless?
As for your current problems........when you were going off at the mechanic about Hyosungs was he laughing at what you were saying or was he laughing at you because he had done a half arse repair job and you weren't blaming him?
If you want to be hooning around at 160kph + buy a bike designed for that purpose not an entry level bike. I have had my 6F for over a year, the Hyo serves me well for what I want from it and I'm in no rush to get rid of it
davebullet
2nd March 2009, 19:39
Plus, weren't Hyosung responsible for manufacture of the SV650 engines for Suzuki?
good god! Are you saying my SV650 is a Hyosung! :lol:
riffer
2nd March 2009, 19:54
good god! Are you saying my SV650 is a Hyosung! :lol:
Found some info:
In 1978 Hyosung Motors and Machinery, Ltd., was established in Korea for the purpose of designing and manufacturing motorcycles for the Asian market, and in 1979 Hyosung established a Technology Cooperation Agreement with Suzuki Motors of Japan. Since then Hyosung has been building its own brand of motorcycles primarily for various Asian markets, as well as building components, sub-assemblies and motorcycles for Suzuki. Hyosung later established a foothold in Europe, and soon after came a dual overhead cam 125cc motor for the Asian market, later followed by the emergence of a range of 250cc motorcycles exported throughout Asia and Europe. In 2004 an all-new Hyosung 650cc v-twin was introduced, which became the basis for four motorcycle models ranging from a cruiser to a sport bike. In 2005 Hyosung expanded its European operations, and established an American distribution network via an agreement with UM, a South American vehicle distributor with markets in both North and South America. In 2007 Hyosung's motorcycles and machinery divisions went their own separate ways, and the motorcycle division became S&T Motors, Ltd. Their web site can be found at: http://www.hisntmotors.com/abroad/index.asp and UM's web site is located at: http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/index.html
Because of the Suzuki Technology Exchange Agreement, and the fact that Hyosung has built SV650's for Suzuki under license, and due to the lack of good reliable information on the street about the GT650R, many people automatically make the assumption that the GT650R is nothing more than a Korean copy of the SV650. That is simply not true. The SV650 is a competitor to the Comet, not a sibling.
When designing the GT650R Hyosung chose a few of the same sub-supplier parts as Suzuki did for the SV650. For example the GT650R uses the same carburetor (or throttle body in the case of EFI) mounting bracket as the SV650. On the 2008 Hyosung, the electronic fuel injection unit is the same Mitsubishi unit as on the SV650 (more on that later.) There are other bits and pieces from other parts suppliers that are the same on both bikes, but that is no different than if Honda and Yamaha bought components from the same supplier. Upon any sort of casual or close inspection it becomes very obvious the GT650R is definitely not a SV650 copy.
The GT650R motor is an original Hyosung-designed and Hyosung-built motor. Both motorcycles have 90-degree V-Twins, but that is where the similarity stops. The SV650 has a 645cc, 70 HP motor, and the GT650R has a 647cc motor with 80 HP. The internal arrangements of the motors are completely different. SV650 has a spin on oil filter on the front of the motor, the GT650R has BOTH an internal oil filter under a cover on the right side of the motor, and an oil strainer on the bottom of the motor. On the right side of the Hyosung motor where the oil filter resides is where the water pump resides on the Suzuki. Not the same motor. Not a copy. Not even close.
The frames on the two bikes are completely different. The newest SV650 has a Japanese sport bike style box aluminum frame where the GT650R has an oval tube frame visually similar to the Triumph Speed Triple. Even the older SV650 frame, which did have a tubular section, is a different shape and is not the same frame as the Hyosung. The swingarms are completely different. The motorcycle is not a copy of anything, it is unique and original in its own right.
DarkLord
10th March 2009, 22:33
To think that people were actually feeling sorry for this guy when he came off and was whining on here about only wanting his girlfriend back, etc. If you ask me, pal, you got exactly what you deserved, and your mindset here proves this.
How the fuck is it the bikes fault? The only reason the bike is like it is, is because YOU crashed it. If YOU didn't crash it, perhaps it wouldn't be in as bad shape as it is? I suppose it's the bikes fault that you crashed as well? How is it Hyosungs fault? Cos the bike doesn't run the same? Of course it's not going to be the same. It's been CRASHED. By YOU.
You know, there is a little saying I have, and it goes like this - what you have in your heart will be revealed by what you have in your life. The fact that you have had all this happen to you is a pretty clear indication to me of what is going on in your heart. Nothing is ever your fault, is it? It's the bikes fault for being fucked because you crashed it. It's your girlfriends fault for being a bitch. True, she may well have been, but perhaps YOU drove her away?!? With attitudes like that?
You'll probably tell me I'm being harsh. And maybe I am. But my point is, through all you have been through, be it self imposed or whatever, you have been presented with a MASSIVE learning experience that you could really use to make yourself a better person and a better rider. If you don't learn anything from it, then it is worth nothing and all completely wasted. Seeing stupid-ass threads like this, blaming the bike for your mistakes is a pretty clear indication you are not learning from your experiences. What happens if you get this CBR600 you speak of, and bin that as well and then it doesn't work properly afterwards? I suppose that is going to be the bikes fault too?
My point is, before you go about blaming anyone (or anything) else, take a look in the mirror. A real long, hard look and see what part of the responsibility is YOURS first.
RocKai
11th March 2009, 01:11
Exactly my point dark man ;)
Rev DJ
11th March 2009, 13:26
:oi-grr: maybe we should rename this thread... Good Hyosung - questionable Mechanic?? :calm:
Love my bike BTW - never missed a beat... DJ
Number 5
11th March 2009, 19:22
:oi-grr: maybe we should rename this thread... Good Hyosung - questionable Mechanic?? :calm:
Love my bike BTW - never missed a beat... DJ
Good Hyo, good Honda, good Yam, etc,etc, its the GOOD OWNER that really counts.
Getting regular servicing is a good start, but being a motorcyclist and a good owner is more than that, its the weekly maintenance that counts (check your owners manual for weekly/monthly checks).
It starts with nothing more than cleaning the bike, checking oil and coolant levels,operation of controls, tyre pressures, etc.
As well as keeping the bike in good condition, it keeps the rider safe, and should prevent finding out the hard way that you have no brakes at 160k.
rphenix
11th March 2009, 19:29
Good Hyo, good Honda, good Yam, etc,etc, its the GOOD OWNER that really counts.
Getting regular servicing is a good start, but being a motorcyclist and a good owner is more than that, its the weekly maintenance that counts (check your owners manual for weekly/monthly checks).
It starts with nothing more than cleaning the bike, checking oil and coolant levels,operation of controls, tyre pressures, etc.
As well as keeping the bike in good condition, it keeps the rider safe, and should prevent finding out the hard way that you have no brakes at 160k.
:clap: Couldnt have put it better myself.
woodhillkamikaze
10th July 2009, 12:58
Maybe he should learn to ride before doing '160' (Dubious) It's obviously his fault since he admitted being a regular crasher... I wonder what other bikes have had the unfortunate experience of being ridden by this muppet! Where'd he get a licence from?? Sure Hyosungs aren't a ZXR or CBR but hey they look good and are at least a full sized bike. I owned a ZXR before which was prettty damn quick. The Hyosung is nothing compared to the ZXR for speed but the the Hyosung is a hell of a lot more comfortable and relaxing. (I rode one from Welly to Aucks) Maybe Donut should buy a 50cc scooter... :headbang: He won't have any problems then I'm sure (oh and put some training wheels on it to lol:clap:)
are you blind or just stupid?? i have already said i have had alot of problems before the bike got stacked, its been a lemon from day 1, first time i did the loop one of my front calipers fell off, another time the front brake leaver clicked for 1 to 6 and went against the bars, at 160 into a corner and no front brakes it was a bit scarey. i have had the rear master cylinder seize on me 3 times now because the rubber boot on it is useless it just comes down to personal experience and mine is bad so i cant say much good about them and although they may not all b like that its set my opinion on them. its funny how you never hear anything good about them untill you jump on kiwibiker and everyone gets all up'y because you dont like them yet if i ask anyone in person they cant stop saying how shit they are. even the dealer i bought it from says there crap and that they are always having problems with them ...... i keep it well maintained especially after owning 2 bang motor cross bikes i know the importance of it all and am always giving the bike a good once over
NighthawkNZ
10th July 2009, 13:12
Hyosung fails again
finally got my hyoslut running after the last accident XD took it out last night for a short blat and man is it fucked, all the fairing brackets are bent so just riding it has made it shatter the fairing, then wen i was going round a corner in 3rd and went to shift up it went into what i thought was a false neutral, so i tryed to kick it down 2 and it still seemed like it was in neutral reving its ass off. then i noticed my backwheel was coming out in a bad way (oh shit not again, same corner i broke my back on) so i pulled over and had a look at the bike and all i saw was this mass patch of oil, the bolt of the front sprocket had come off and the seals around it r fukd covered everything in oil, not sure if the gearbox has shit itself yet soon to find out tho
but at the end of the day its a hyoslut and what can you expect :) wont b long now and ill have my cbr600 09 :D so i might aswell run the hyosluts face into the road
How is you crashing it and the complaining after the crash that bits are broken and not straight... how is that Hyosungs fault?
and yes Hyosung have been making the SV650 motor for years... the Hyosung GT650 motor is based on that design...
skidMark
10th July 2009, 13:17
I have no friends, can i pay any of you $1 to give me a hug?
srsly.
NighthawkNZ
10th July 2009, 13:20
When you can't afford Italian you buy American.
If you can't afford American you can buy British.
When you can't afford British you buy Japanese.
If you can't afford Japanese you buy Korean.
If you have no self respect whatsoever.....you buy Chinese :rofl:
I can afford the duke, just can't afford to ride it... :lol:
Buckets4Me
15th July 2009, 09:56
When you can't afford Italian you buy American.
If you can't afford American you can buy British.
When you can't afford British you buy Japanese.
If you can't afford Japanese you buy Korean.
If you have no self respect whatsoever.....you buy Chinese :rofl:
when you want it to start and run reliably for 80000k you dont buy a duke
or an american HD
You go get a nice Jappa :2guns:
cheesemethod
19th July 2009, 12:26
There seems to be a hell of a lot of people who think that gloating about top speed makes you a good rider, good enough that you know more about bikes than the people who made it. Perhaps, being that you know quality better than Hyo, you should found your own motocycle manufacturing firm?
FLYMO
9th August 2009, 18:42
sounds to me like the owner of the bike is defective and not the bike
if it was made to me on its side they would have put caster wheels on it for u
got some old training wheels here if ya want them
Metalor
12th August 2009, 15:00
Haha, this thread is making want to touch myself....
You obviously smashed the hyosung up pretty bad man, maybe it's time to cut your losses and get somerthing a bit more forgiving... like a gn?
:P
chef
19th August 2009, 01:41
why does my hyofighter have trouble geting into N !?
BiK3RChiK
19th August 2009, 06:04
why does my hyofighter have trouble geting into N !?
It's common with them mate.. As you pull up click it into neutral from 2nd while you are still rolling. You'll find it's much easier than pulling to a stop then trying to find neutral.
gw555
19th August 2009, 18:34
It can be that the clutch needs adjusting or the oil needs changing.
The other option is do lots of ks then it becomes much better!!!!
DarkLord
19th August 2009, 21:35
Mine is a bitch as well - when I start it up in the mornings I pull the clutch in and flick the gear lever into N by hand although sometimes it is a real bitch to do and takes a bit of encouragement.
As far as I know the cause is simply that the gearbox is cheaply designed and manufactured like the rest of the bike.
gatch
19th August 2009, 22:04
The hyoslag is a boil on the bum cheek of motorcycle engineering.
For real.
DarkLord
19th August 2009, 22:20
The hyoslag is a boil on the bum cheek of motorcycle engineering.
For real.
They have improved from what they were, but they still have a long way to go, as many bike mechanics who have worked on them will tell you.
The one plus side of the Hyo is the engine - bar the odd exception they are generally pretty good. Mine's done about 43,000 k's now and still purrs away with no problem.... it's just the other parts of the bike that come loose and rattle e.g. the exhaust that get on my nerves!!
BiK3RChiK
20th August 2009, 08:05
So it has a few niggles... I like mine even still.
With the gearbox issues just be careful not to munch it hard on the gear lever. Our son cracked the housing and it had to be all pulled down and the housing swapped from another engine. Just nice and easy does it.... Having the bike rolling while going down into neutral from 2nd is really the way to go.
CookMySock
20th August 2009, 08:36
Check its not overfilled with oil, or got he worng oil in it.
Steve
gw555
20th August 2009, 10:15
So it has a few niggles... I like mine even still.
:2thumbsup:2thumbsup completely agree and now the 100 is looming!!!
Hiflyer
21st August 2009, 14:29
1st to neutral I find is easier on mine but my gearbox doesnt have that problem usuall, It might be a sign that the clutch cable is gonna snap as well, the hyos have that almighty bend in the cable just next to where it joins the lever.
StoneY
21st August 2009, 14:41
nah hand the mechanic fix everything, cost alot too then it decided to do that. Its not the only problem ive had with the lemon which is why i hav no compliments for them especially after hearing all the other bad shit about them... end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs, as bad as a fukn harley and just as underpowered
So...you ever owned a harley dude?
Only ones I have seen/riden are reliable and VERY well built- (much like thier owners -could be a relationship there)
No point blaming the bike- you killed it and used a shit mechanic to repair it- live with it or not- thats life
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