Cops

[wbks]

I noticed a few cops are on here so I thought I would ask how you find it as a job and if you would recommend it? Looking it up a bit the pay seems pretty good once in full work and from what I can gather, you get more days off than in most jobs. Not the reason I would be looking at it though, but generally, do you validated for getting the job, in the other things? I asked a highway patrol officer what he thought and he clearly would not recommend it. Partly because of the fact that no matter how much effort is put in, people only ever get a slap on the wrist, so to speak, which makes their effort seem to be spent in vain, and because although it's expected to have to deal with fuckwits, the general public attitude towards them is summed up in the word most people seem to just drop like its nothing: "PIG"... Highway patrol is not what I would want to work as but I get the idea that what I just mentioned applies around the whole workforce.

Thanks for any reply's.

EDIT: Sorry if anyone was expecting some rant on being cut off by one or complaining about "under trained, overpaid monkeys"

[CB ARGH]

Sad, but I also want to become a cop. I still call them oinkers, but I still would even when I'm wearing the badge. Police officers have a great job, it's been my dream even since I hit ten years old and got a set of handcuffs for my birthday :whistle:

We need a pig smilie face... don't we... :2thumbsup

[portokiwi]

Police do a very good job and never get enough thanks for the job they do. I know a lot of police officers :whistle: most of them were trying to get another job lol.
The good thing is that they can take a year off to do something else and come back.
you cant get better then that.

[Patrick]

24 years now, still at it. Those in the job who moan should pull finger and piss off, let someone keen in to take their place instead of bitching about it and bringing those around them down.....

PIGS = P ride, I ntegrity, G uts, S tamina

Very intelligent, easy to train, capable of multiple orgasms.... apparently....

Donuts.... Mmmmmmmm...... Donuts........

[3umph]

Donuts.... Mmmmmmmm...... Donuts........

don't you get a pay allowance for donuts???? well that's what I heard :jerry:

[Edbear]

24 years now, still at it. Those in the job who moan should pull finger and piss off, let someone keen in to take their place instead of bitching about it and bringing those around them down.....

PIGS = P ride, I ntegrity, G uts, S tamina

Very intelligent, easy to train, capable of multiple orgasms.... apparently....

Donuts.... Mmmmmmmm...... Donuts........

Sounds a bit like me, really.... Got the "plenty of guts" bit, just a bit more work on the others... :msn-wink:

[Patrick]

Yup. Wages. Fortnightly.... ( = donut allowance...)

[Patrick]

Sounds a bit like me, really.... Got the "plenty of guts" bit, just a bit more work on the others... :msn-wink:

Me too! Damn donuts!

[3umph]

Chch's Naked Baker and there custard donuts... mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmm

[Boob Johnson]

HWP would have its fun moments for sure. Struth how many cops could honestly say they didn't like it when they have to drive fast AND safe in the knowledge they wouldn't get a speeding ticket :2thumbsup

Pursuits must be a blast :corn:



capable of multiple orgasms
lmfao!!! What in the hell kind of training are you guys getting these days? :wacko:

[peasea]

The police are the best people in the world. They are our friends and are to be trusted implicitly. They work hard for our security and safety, are 100% honest, fit, healthy and well educated. They are all capable of keeping a level head when under pressure, have impeccable driving manners, never make mistakes and are loved by all.

Ok, so it's a pack of lies, I'm bored.

[98tls]

Hey at least there out there doing it eh,theres good n bad just like butchers,bakers candlestick blah blah.

[munster]

In my mid twenties I tried to join the police, blitzed all the fitness (got top for hand grip strength and high jump) and intelligence tests (tops for observation), but they wouldn't let me join because I had 2 careless driving convictions from when I was 17.

Now they let people in with minor assault, fraud convictions and more.

At least I learnt from my mistakes.

Go figure?

Now I'm more mature my income has exceeded what I would get from the Police, but I still hold it as a win Lotto job. Either that or a school teacher or a GP.

[wbks]

24 years now, still at it. Those in the job who moan should pull finger and piss off, let someone keen in to take their place instead of bitching about it and bringing those around them down.....

PIGS = P ride, I ntegrity, G uts, S tamina

Very intelligent, easy to train, capable of multiple orgasms.... apparently....

Donuts.... Mmmmmmmm...... Donuts........So you feel you make a difference in it?

[Virago]

In my mid twenties I tried to join the police, blitzed all the fitness (got top for hand grip strength and high jump) and intelligence tests (tops for observation), but they wouldn't let me join because I had 2 careless driving convictions from when I was 17...

I failed to qualify by about six inches...:pinch:

[3umph]

The police are the best people in the world. They are our friends and are to be trusted implicitly. They work hard for our security and safety, are 100% honest, fit, healthy and well educated. They are all capable of keeping a level head when under pressure, have impeccable driving manners, never make mistakes and are loved by all.

Ok, so it's a pack of lies, I'm bored.

:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[wbks]

Missed out on a cop porno opportunity, virago?

[Katman]

I'm currently looking forward to issuing a civil law suit to a police officer for perjury.

:clap:

[Virago]

I'm currently looking forward to issuing a civil law suit to a police officer for purgery.

:clap:

Purge (verb): - to get rid of something undesirable, impure, or imperfect.

So where were you thrown out from...? :innocent:

[Boob Johnson]

Purge (verb): - to get rid of something undesirable, impure, or imperfect.

So where were you thrown out from...? :innocent:
lmfao!!! Gold, thats gold right there :clap:

[Katman]

Purge (verb): - to get rid of something undesirable, impure, or imperfect.



Thanks for that.

Hopefully I won't be needed to spell it in court.

[Virago]

Missed out on a cop porno opportunity, virago?

Actually, I could have overcome the problem by getting a very large breast implant on my head - and painting it blue...

[speights_bud]

I've often thought about becomin one meself, don't want to do HP got some other ideas in mind but gotta finish my trade cert first and go from there :yes:

[peasea]

I'm currently looking forward to issuing a civil law suit to a police officer for perjury.

:clap:


Wish I could have afforded that, twice over.

[marty]

The police are the best people in the world. They are our friends and are to be trusted implicitly. They work hard for our security and safety, are 100% honest, fit, healthy and well educated. They are all capable of keeping a level head when under pressure, have impeccable driving manners, never make mistakes and are loved by all.

Ok, so it's a pack of lies, I'm bored.

as opposed to the great unwashed, who are just a pack of useless cunts ALL the time.

[spudchucka]

Its a great job but the police aren't always a great employer. Like any job there are days you love the work and days that you hate it too.

[sinfull]

So you feel you make a difference in it?
there is the fact he's keeping the baker well employed !

[Edbear]

Its a great job but the police aren't always a great employer. Like any job there are days you love the work and days that you hate it too.

I guess it's pretty much like most jobs in that respect, 'cept mine... I love my job every day! How many people look forward to going work Monday morning!

And yes, I have a life, but the atmosphere, the people and the nature of the job mean I don't think of it as work.

I feel the difference with the Police, like teaching and nursing, is the motivation for going into the job. All are "people" jobs and I think all would probably agree, the reason they joined up was to help people. I wanted to join way back when, but for some reason never did. Today, I wouldn't want to due to the changes in society. Unless it was in a more civilian-type role, perhaps.

[peasea]

Its a great job but the police aren't always a great employer.

Because? Too much petty paperwork and political interference?

[Brett]

Interesting to see this thread. I had been working on starting my own business this year after a fair while as a construction/property development project manager. The change in the financial climate has made me think twice about starting a business, and one of the things I am looking at is joining the police. I too would not want to do HP. If I did it, I would be looking at something like the dive squad, search and rescue, AOS or something a little more removed from road policing and the general beat.

To be very honest about it, I am not all that excited about the salary, I have earnt more than a cop since I was 18, but hey a salary is better than a business that goes under. Also, due to my wifes vocation, we are now earning a fair bit through her, so I would be happy with a pay cut. (Besides, cops have enough down time that someone motivated could make extra money in various other ways)
There are 2 reasons why I am looking at the police (also the paramedics and fire officers) and they are:

1: To help people when they desperately need it.
2: You get to be out and about quite a bit which is a lot more appealing than going back to being an employee behind a computer screen 10 hours a day.

[The Pastor]

anyone know what the cop salay system is?

i know on the billbord they say "50k package"

but what do they actually get in the hand starting rate?

[klingon]

The [insert random job title here] are the best people in the world. They are our friends and are to be trusted implicitly. They work hard for our security and safety, are 100% honest, fit, healthy and well educated. They are all capable of keeping a level head when under pressure, have impeccable driving manners, never make mistakes and are loved by all.

Ok, so it's a pack of lies, I'm bored.

Some suggestions for random job titles:
doctors
nurses
teachers
fathers
mothers
lawyers
truck drivers
retailers
farmers
butchers
bakers
bikers
humans

[peasea]

but what do they actually get in the hand?

Can I restrain myself???????????

[peasea]

Some suggestions for random job titles:
doctors
nurses
teachers
fathers
mothers
lawyers
truck drivers
retailers
farmers
butchers
bakers
bikers
humans

Is being 'human' a job description?

[peasea]

I failed to qualify by about six inches...:pinch:

With your trousers on or off?

[Virago]

With your trousers on or off?

The "trousers off" part of the initiation process was a bit later - I didn't get that far...

[peasea]

The "trousers off" part of the initiation process was a bit later - I didn't get that far...

Probably just as well; you seen those long batons? Ouch.

[wbks]

Interesting to see this thread. I had been working on starting my own business this year after a fair while as a construction/property development project manager. The change in the financial climate has made me think twice about starting a business, and one of the things I am looking at is joining the police. I too would not want to do HP. If I did it, I would be looking at something like the dive squad, search and rescue, AOS or something a little more removed from road policing and the general beat.

To be very honest about it, I am not all that excited about the salary, I have earnt more than a cop since I was 18, but hey a salary is better than a business that goes under. Also, due to my wifes vocation, we are now earning a fair bit through her, so I would be happy with a pay cut. (Besides, cops have enough down time that someone motivated could make extra money in various other ways)
There are 2 reasons why I am looking at the police (also the paramedics and fire officers) and they are:

1: To help people when they desperately need it.
2: You get to be out and about quite a bit which is a lot more appealing than going back to being an employee behind a computer screen 10 hours a day.From what I've read, all those things are only an option after 2 years of work and aren't things you can just choose to do. AOS, Dive Squad and Search and Rescue are, I'm pretty sure, volunteer jobs, as well.

[Mully]

I considered it when I left school. Went to the information evening and even did a first aid course.

The fact that my eyes were -4.5 and -5 and I could afford LASIK at the time was the main reason I didn't take it any further.

Probably wouldn't consider it these days.

[wbks]

anyone know what the cop salay system is?

i know on the billbord they say "50k package"

but what do they actually get in the hand starting rate?Well it's 32k P.A. average for 6 months in the college, then onto that 50k gross after that 6 months. Or so I've read. Was that what you were meaning? I think there is some special thingy that means that pay isn't taxed? Maybe Patric or someone can tell us

[scumdog]

So you feel you make a difference in it?

You try - but at the end of the day it can shake your faith in humans and make you a tad cynical, it can be a very negative job at times....

But variety of each days work is great, especially if you've ever had a production-line type job or been office-bound.

And you get lots of leave.

Worth a crack at doing all the same - that way you will know if you're cut out for it or not.

But learn to get a thick skin if you DO join - ya invariably get introduced wherever you go as "This is xxx, he's a cop" (never heard of any proctologista being introduced by their occupation...:shutup:)and ya ain't everybodys friend in this job...but I generally think this about the those that blindly criticise the cops endlessly: "Not very many of THEM could ever could ever get to do this job...regardless if they wanted to or not":woohoo:

[Brett]

From what I've read, all those things are only an option after 2 years of work and aren't things you can just choose to do. AOS, Dive Squad and Search and Rescue are, I'm pretty sure, volunteer jobs, as well.

yeah they are, but as with anything, you have to start somewhere.

[Max Preload]

I failed to qualify by about six inches...:pinch:

You should re-apply if you're still keen. I'm pretty sure they're specifically recruiting midgets now if some of the ones in Auckland are anything to go by.
:wacko:

[spudchucka]

Well it's 32k P.A. average for 6 months in the college, then onto that 50k gross after that 6 months. Or so I've read. Was that what you were meaning? I think there is some special thingy that means that pay isn't taxed? Maybe Patric or someone can tell us

Your pay is most definitely taxed. Then there are your compulsory super contributions to come out and your police association fees as well as your welfare fund contributions, life insurance etc etc.

The pay scale is structured so that it takes about 17 - 20 years to reach the top of the constable's pay band. The only way to advance your pay quickly is to promote or join squads like AOS that pay you good allowances for being on stand by etc.

[wbks]

But I thought AOS was a volenteer job? And surely you can't just ask to join them...

[spudchucka]

AOS is a squad that you apply to join and there is a selection process that is quite demanding. It is voluntary but once you are a squad member you get paid an allowance. AOS is not a full time job, they still carry out regular police duties too. The call outs tend to be very disruptive to your everyday work and home lives, which is now doubt one of the reasons why they get paid an allowance.

[awayatc]

ya invariably get introduced wherever you go as "This is xxx, he's a cop" (never heard of any proctologista being introduced by their occupation...:shutup:)

Mainly so people don't put their foot right it and offer you a joint..., or shoot their mouth off in any sort of incriminating way. (wanna get some cheap mooshine?, wanna new lcd tv fresh of the truck etc.etc.):Oops:

[firefighter]

Is being 'human' a job description?

For the islanders next door, yep, it sure is.....<_<

[firefighter]

To be very honest about it, I am not all that excited about the salary, I have earnt more than a cop since I was 18, but hey a salary is better than a business that goes under. Also, due to my wifes vocation, we are now earning a fair bit through her, so I would be happy with a pay cut. (Besides, cops have enough down time that someone motivated could make extra money in various other ways)
There are 2 reasons why I am looking at the police (also the paramedics and fire officers) and they are:

1: To help people when they desperately need it.
2: You get to be out and about quite a bit which is a lot more appealing than going back to being an employee behind a computer screen 10 hours a day.

Try doing a few ride-alongs, (I say a few as you will get a more realistic idea of the job) and i'd reccommend joinind a volly brigade for a while...(it does'nt matter for application but you will find out if you like it soon enough)


Your pay is most definitely taxed. Then there are your compulsory super contributions to come out and your police association fees as well as your welfare fund contributions, life insurance etc etc.

Do you have life insurance through the police?
Firefighters are discriminated against in regards to life insurance, it's "dangerous" so the insurance companies won't cover us for life insurance......fuckers....do you guys have the same problem?

[spudchucka]

Insurance is available through the police association's welfare fund but I have other life insurance with non-police oriented companies too and have never been questioned about it being a particularly dangerous occupation.

[samgab]

Do you have life insurance through the police?
Firefighters are discriminated against in regards to life insurance, it's "dangerous" so the insurance companies won't cover us for life insurance......fuckers....do you guys have the same problem?

Affirm, we have to pay tax, the same as everyone else.
And to answer Firefighter's question RE: life insurance, we can get life insurance through the Police Association.
http://www.policeassn.org.nz/Insurances/GroupLife.htm

[firefighter]

Insurance is available through the police association's welfare fund but I have other life insurance with non-police oriented companies too and have never been questioned about it being a particularly dangerous occupation.

That's weird, I would have considered being a cop far more dangerous than a firefighter.....(I personally think it would be)

I tried asking for figures that support their claims of it being a dangerous job (ie deaths, I was after life insurance after-all) but they would'nt have a bar of it, and yeah I called about 5 different companies with the same result.....

I wonder if it's really legal to just pick an occupation, assume it's dangerous and decide not to insure them? I mean come-on, the job is dangerous but when you talk about an actual death toll it's pretty bloody small.....more truck drivers die than F/F's on the job.......and they will insure them.

[Patrick]

So you feel you make a difference in it?

Just when ya think you do, like most days... then you go on to KB and it all goes out the window....:bash:

Can't please all of the people all of the time. But interestingly, its usually the ones who have been locked up, or dealt with for doing stupid shit, that have the "problems" with the cops.... :yes: So to them, I say...:finger: we will see you soon...:nya:


there is the fact he's keeping the baker well employed !

See? We do actually do some good... keeping others gainfully employed.


Because? Too much petty paperwork and political interference?

Too much paperwork, for sure. More to do with how they treat their staff just like the scrotes their staff lock up..... Oops... hang on... the scrotes have more rights.:brick::doh:


... I am looking at is joining the police. I too would not want to do HP. If I did it, I would be looking at something like the dive squad, search and rescue, AOS or something a little more removed from road policing and the general beat.

You start at the bottom. This is what most AOS actually do. AOS is an on call squad... they don't sit around waiting for shit to happen.

To be very honest about it, I am not all that excited about the salary, I have earnt more than a cop since I was 18, but hey a salary is better than a business that goes under. Also, due to my wifes vocation, we are now earning a fair bit through her, so I would be happy with a pay cut.

We had a computor programmer join some yearsd ago.... he went from a $130,000K job to the $43,000K on graduation, at that time. We all thought he was mad.... but he passed the psychology tests....

(Besides, cops have enough down time that someone motivated could make extra money in various other ways)

Heaps with a trade do secondary and are VERY comfortable....
There are 2 reasons why I am looking at the police (also the paramedics and fire officers) and they are:

1: To help people when they desperately need it.
2: You get to be out and about quite a bit which is a lot more appealing than going back to being an employee behind a computer screen 10 hours a day.

Out and about all right... and nothing is ever the same.....


yeah they are, but as with anything, you have to start somewhere.

Like beat and general duties....


Do you have life insurance through the police?
Firefighters are discriminated against in regards to life insurance, it's "dangerous" so the insurance companies won't cover us for life insurance......fuckers....do you guys have the same problem?

:gob: Being a govt employer, in a govt job, they (the govt) should be ensuring you are covered. I thought more cops have been killed in the line of duty than fireys... (could be wrong here..)

[Max Preload]

ya invariably get introduced wherever you go as "This is xxx, he's a cop" (never heard of any proctologista being introduced by their occupation...:shutup:)

That's not very fair is it. Is there really that much difference between actually being an arsehole and just inspecting them?

[Patrick]

I failed to qualify by about six inches...:pinch:

On height?

Or the jump test...?

[Patrick]

In my mid twenties I tried to join the police, blitzed all the fitness (got top for hand grip strength and high jump) and intelligence tests (tops for observation), but they wouldn't let me join because I had 2 careless driving convictions from when I was 17.

Now they let people in with minor assault, fraud convictions and more.

At least I learnt from my mistakes.

Go figure?

Now I'm more mature my income has exceeded what I would get from the Police, but I still hold it as a win Lotto job. Either that or a school teacher or a GP.

The 2 x old careless matters in my book is better than a 5 year old EBA conviction... They went through a stage of allowing those with 5 year old EBA cinvictions in. Some great guys too, but...... hmmmmm..... You get done for EBA in the job, you're gone!

Also had a guy in Auckland apply with a conviction for assaults and resists police..... and the Wellington Head Office said he could continue with the application. We told our boss we weren't processing him any further.... Talk about lowering standards.... How fucked is that?

[Patrick]

That's not very fair is it. Is there really that much difference between actually being an arsehole and just inspecting them?

No. We still gotta lock them up. Don't get too many proctologists through the cells.... Heaps of arseholes though....

[firefighter]

:gob: Being a govt employer, in a govt job, they (the govt) should be ensuring you are covered. I thought more cops have been killed in the line of duty than fireys... (could be wrong here..)

Yes I have cover internally, it's just if I want private insurance
(state, tower, vero etcetc) I can't get it, it's pretty disgraceful really, i'd forgotten about it but remembered after reading spuds post......I was fuming when i found out but it's just the way it is.....

Yes I would have thought as I said earlier that being a cop is far more dangerous than being a firefighter (the companies have no figures to back them up, I have asked it's "just policy")
....it's a bit fucked really, maybe they think we still grow beards and suck them when we go into buildings.....? (you know dip your beard in water, and suck it to cool any smoke you may breathe in.....:rolleyes:)

[samgab]

...maybe they think we still grow beards and suck them when we go into buildings...

I thought that meant something different. Glad you explained. :msn-wink:

[Patrick]

Can I re-strain myself???????????

You'll go blind....

[Benjiboi]

A friend of mine just joined the cops, he is same age (22) and we where in the army together.
He loves it, is in West Auckland now and having a ball. I am looking at joining although I'll probably give it a few years first.

[portokiwi]

:Police: Good on you mate. Nothing better then getting more boys in blue.
I was going to join then I was offered a nice Govt job in Wellington......... Just waiting for the ok to move down. Good things take time I was told:2guns:
If you are ex army I think you will enjoy it.

[Indoo]

Alot depends on what area you go to, if you work in a well resourced area with sufficient staff and good bosses it can be a fantastic job where you can make a difference. But if you work in an under resourced, overworked, horribly understaffed district its a completely different story.

The pay rates are flat and do not reflect the hugely different work loads, stress, danger and unpaid overtime which you would find between say a frontline cop working in the worst suburbs in Auckland whose worked off his arse and a highway patrol cop in a quiet South Island town.

[Tank]

I look at it as more of a vocation as opposed to a job.

Its hard, dangerous work and generally under appreciated by joe public.

Big ups for anyone who can do it. Two of my sons want to join and I'm 1000% behind it.

[wbks]

Think Army experience would help for a policing job? On the Quiet SI town HWP vs. South Auckland constable thing, I would probably go for the later. The reason I thought about it is that I want to be out there actually doing something to help people out, and at least trying to make a difference, rather than handing tickets and policing the roads. Nothing against it, but not really what I was interested in

[spudchucka]

That's weird, I would have considered being a cop far more dangerous than a firefighter.....(I personally think it would be)

I tried asking for figures that support their claims of it being a dangerous job (ie deaths, I was after life insurance after-all) but they would'nt have a bar of it, and yeah I called about 5 different companies with the same result.....

I wonder if it's really legal to just pick an occupation, assume it's dangerous and decide not to insure them? I mean come-on, the job is dangerous but when you talk about an actual death toll it's pretty bloody small.....more truck drivers die than F/F's on the job.......and they will insure them.

I'm amazed that your union hasn't pressured the Govt to sort something out for you guys.

[firefighter]

I'm amazed that your union hasn't pressured the Govt to sort something out for you guys.

u,u,u,u,union? :blink: :shifty: hahaha, yeah I know, honestly, ring up state (or whoever) and tell them you want life insurance, lie and say your a firefighter, you'll either get the, sure ok i'll process that for you, then two weeks later you will recieve a letter saying that they can't insure you/or they'll just tell you straight out.....they're all the same- they even tell you that they are all the same in regards to things like that when you ask if they know who will. Trust me iv'e been through a mine field of it.

[peasea]

I want to be a policeman. Can I can I can I?

I have a sense of humour. :doh: That ruined it.

[scumdog]

I want to be a policeman. Can I can I can I?

I have a sense of humour. :doh:

Sez you...:lol::dodge:

[Swoop]

The fact that my eyes were -4.5 and -5 and I <STRIKE>could</STRIKE> couldn't afford LASIK at the time was the main reason I didn't take it any further.
There. Fixed it for ya.
But that isn't the point...:rofl:


I imagine that the recruitment people are having an influx of enquiries at the moment. A lot of ex-carpenters are in blue now. It happens whenever there is an economic downturn.

[Reckless]

u,u,u,u,union? :blink: :shifty: hahaha, yeah I know, honestly, ring up state (or whoever) and tell them you want life insurance, lie and say your a firefighter, you'll either get the, sure ok i'll process that for you, then two weeks later you will recieve a letter saying that they can't insure you/or they'll just tell you straight out.....they're all the same- they even tell you that they are all the same in regards to things like that when you ask if they know who will. Trust me iv'e been through a mine field of it.

That's bloody ridiculous! I would say there'd be much more danger in being a biker than a Cop or firey.
So when are they going to start saying your life's now uninsurable because you own or ride a bike!

Fair comparison I reckon. Shit there's probably more loss of life on building sites than in the fire service! So do they cancel your policy if you join 5 years later? That's simply not right!

[Fatjim]

I failed to qualify by about six inches...:pinch:

What, six inches too long?