Found this auction.

[tnarg]

Just came across this auction at graysonline. The drz looks fucked but the kx could be a cheap ride, may need some work though.

http://www.graysonline.co.nz/lot.asp?LOT_ID=3366427

[barty5]

Just came across this auction at graysonline. The drz looks fucked but the kx could be a cheap ride, may need some work though.

http://www.graysonline.co.nz/lot.asp?LOT_ID=3366427


dosnt say whats damaged re the frame also dont know if it me but the front steering angle looks fucked up?? dont look right could just be the photo but looks like the foks may be bent.

[theblacksmith]

dosnt say whats damaged re the frame also dont know if it me but the front steering angle looks fucked up?? dont look right could just be the photo but looks like the foks may be bent.

I agree with ya Barty - the front angle does look a bit steep - and the wheelbase shorter than usual. Are the forks fully extended?? Chrome part looks short to me.

[Buddy L]

Brought all my Wood working machines off Greys online site and got a real bargin.
Just remember if buying, you have to pay 12.5% for GST and another 12.5% for buyers fee, so it might not work out as cheap as you think.

[Latte]

I took the punt ... :shit: Was just here looking for advice and noticed this thread, how convenient :doh:

Picked it up today. Frame has a ding a few inches below the bottom tripple clamp, looks like frontal impact and the frame has bent(has that stressed/cracked look to it like a bent pipe). The front mudguard just touches the frame (if it was 2 mm forward it would be fine) and theres no sign of the guard being remounted further forward or anything like that.

Forks _look_ ok but that's not saying much, and they do have some signs of weeping (Like Me).

Generally rough condition bike, most plastics are ratty/cracked,exhaust is dinged) but started 1st pop . compression feels pretty good to me, and has done 132 hours on the motominder.

Rear brakes are well into the metal, and are infact loose (hopefully someone has just pushed them apart to replace the pads - although the rear pedal goes all the way down with no piston movement). Fronts look and feel good to me.

Now I have to weigh up wether to cut my losses or invest some money. I plan to take it to a bike shop to get it looked at, but would like some advice on the frame before this. My options as I see it are : frame repair, 2nd hand frame, bin it (wifes option). Are there any shops (or people) on the shore that can deal with either option (apart from the bin), and will a typical bike shop be able to tell how the forks are without pulling them apart?

[Latte]

I agree with ya Barty - the front angle does look a bit steep - and the wheelbase shorter than usual. Are the forks fully extended?? Chrome part looks short to me.


Oh yeah, the bottom part of the fork body that looks like a collar is just under level with the top of the fork guards, judging from pictures of other KX's this seems to be right.

[barty5]

if the frame is bent up round the steering head area ii would find it hard to beleave that the forks are not bent as well 1st point of impact.

[Starky307]

Oh yeah, the bottom part of the fork body that looks like a collar is just under level with the top of the fork guards, judging from pictures of other KX's this seems to be right.

What did you end up paying for it?
Sounds like there could be a lot of work hiding in that bike to get it going like it should.

[Latte]

What did you end up paying for it?
Sounds like there could be a lot of work hiding in that bike to get it going like it should.

I'd rather not say :msn-wink: - I'd miscalculated the extras so it ended up being $2800 instead of the $2500 I was expecting, which is higher than the $2200 I had planned to stop at originally (and that my wife thinks I spent).

Yeah I'm realising this could well be a lost cause - but I will get the bike looked over, I know it won't necessarily catch everything that's wrong with it, but at least I'll know a "minimum" cost of getting it going again and have a better idea to base a decision on.



if the frame is bent up round the steering head area ii would find it hard to beleave that the forks are not bent as well 1st point of impact.


Yeah I would say you're right. My eyeometer says their straight, but that doesnt mean that they are, or that they aren't f***ed anyway. The bikes obviously been ridden a fair bit since the impact but I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

[barty5]

pending on what year it isthere is a stell frame out west on trade me at the mo (bare frame ) could be a good start swap it all over go from there

[honda_power]

i dont think youll lose money... worst case sell the motor on trademe to someone for a go kart, sell the radiators as replacements and sell the rest as a "AIWI Frame"... with unknown problems :). Youll get around a grand for the rims and hubs so i think youll be sweet

[cheese]

Get some better pics up here and strip it down. Take your forks to Danger www.proride.co.nz.

Forks might be ok if the front impact was a hit further up the tubes.

Surely a frame can be repaired? I wonder if its more steeringhead beering damage or tripple clamp damage??

[Latte]

Get some better pics up here and strip it down. Take your forks to Danger www.proride.co.nz.

Forks might be ok if the front impact was a hit further up the tubes.

Surely a frame can be repaired? I wonder if its more steeringhead beering damage or tripple clamp damage??

Yeah I figure it can be repaired - just not sure how much - I have searched the forums and it sounds like Tjebbe Bruin in northcote which is just down the road might be able to look at both forks and frame for me at the same time?

I'll get some pictures up after work, I did put a straight edge against the stanchions (sp) and they dont seem "bent" , but I dont have any real way to check if they aren't "round" anymore.

Good point re headset/tripple clamp damage , will take some detailed pics of those too.

[cheese]

I'm on the shore to if you want me to come have a look and put my 2cents in. I'm just near Glenfield mall.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Steve Bridge at F1 Engineering also does frame straightening and fork work

[Latte]

Steve Bridge at F1 Engineering also does frame straightening and fork work

Whereabouts is he based? Seems to make sense to get it all done at once so he might be another option.


I'm on the shore to if you want me to come have a look and put my 2cents in. I'm just near Glenfield mall.

Yeah I might take you up on that offer. I'm over towards Wairau Park so very close.

[Latte]

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Here are the pics, 2nd one shows how close the front guard is to the frame. last 2 are close ups from each side. Radiators fit fine, lhs is a little bent on the inside. Would be nice to get a similar shot of a straight kx to see the distance/ angles between frame and guard.

[Latte]

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2nd one shows where the paint has flaked away, might be hairline cracking underneath, but hard to say. 1st one is for reference - close up is of where the weld is up by the top Gas Tank mount.

3rd one shows more of this stressed paint / possible hairline crack, this is the support that runs just behind the rad, near the top of the cylinder head.

[cheese]

Hard to tell fro those pics. Personally I'd pop down to Spectrum and talk to them. I'd strip down the front end anyway.

Actually, when you turn the bars full lock, does it hit anything?

With the hours its got on it, I'd definately look at a fresh piston and rings. Then I'd go though all the linkages and grease them up. I'd say you could have a an alright bike for cheap. Also Talk to Scott from Mr motorcyles for parts. He is by far the best on prices and service. http://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz 09 238 3176

[cheese]

oooh that 3rd pic is nasty.

[barty5]

take a bit of string hold at topof steering head down to dent move over to forks that should tell you waht hit wear unless there are already marks in steering yokes id be lookin for a replacement frame youll be hard pushed to get it straightend right. hence insurance accessors right them off

[honda_power]

that frame looks pretty far gone to me.

[Latte]

Tried the string method this morning, lines up about 2-3 inches below the bottom tripple clamp, so I don't think it's an impact dent, more likely where the frame has bent from the force.

Nothing hits turning the forks left and right, one side does get closer to the frame than the other, but this turned out to be the stop tab has been re welded at a funny angle.

[barty5]

what about the top tripple clamp possible it had rater large flip or drop and landed upside down takin the force on the top of the head stock

[Latte]

Got it back from Tjebbe last week. Straightened frame and replated the area, also tore down the forks, checked for straightness (is that a word) and rebuilt them for me. Everything lines up perfectly, you can see the repair but it looks really tidy. Will get pics over the weekend.

Price was really good and he tidied up a few other things while he was there. Just need to paint the repair, or maybe powdercoat the frame, and I'll probably pull the whole bike down and go through it front to back, bearings, top end etc etc. Who's a good contact to get the parts?

[REDRIDER]

Who's a good contact to get the parts?

pm barty mate, he'll hook you up with most stuff, at good prices too

[cheese]

Yeah I'd reccomend powder coating over painting. There is a few places on the shore. Look forward to see you out on teh trails mate!

[barty5]

Yeah I'd reccomend powder coating over painting. There is a few places on the shore. Look forward to see you out on teh trails mate!

Unless they can put in a flexing agent to the powder coat get it painted. Powder coat is like a hard shell finish any stress or frame movement and it will crack and fall off in large chunks.
Heres a couple a pics of any old tt600 i had powder coated after bout 3-4 ride most of the paint on the up right up to the steering head was missing.

[cheese]

LOL cracks me up how that old bike has a sign saying rubbish under it.

When I painted my RM frame it was a pain due to the paint rubbing off. I tought most people got bike frames powder coated. If you paint it, its heaps cheaper, but you got to heat the paint for it to cure properly.

[honda_power]

LOL cracks me up how that old bike has a sign saying rubbish under it.

When I painted my RM frame it was a pain due to the paint rubbing off. I tought most people got bike frames powder coated. If you paint it, its heaps cheaper, but you got to heat the paint for it to cure properly.

i ride with a guy that painted him rm's frame pink, its worn off a little, but its been used a lot. he use proper car paint though. You can always cover the rubbing areas with clear scuff protector

kawasakis look cool with cromed frames as well so thats another option

[cheese]

Yeah I used the proper Suzuki paint for mine. The paint is about as good as their bikes!!