Suzuki RGV 150cc - oil light coming on?

[n3on]

I've got an RGV, 150 cc. Recetly the oil light has come on. At first it would only flicker a bit when the bike is on the kickstand, leaning to the left. Then it'd come on solid when I leaned the bike to the left at all, then flickering while upright and now it's on solid while upright. This morning it would start :crazy:

I did an oil change about 3 weeks ago with Advanced SX 2 Stroke motor oil from shell. At first I put in 900 ml as stated on the motor and filled the container with the old stuff. The thing is it didn't all fit in the container meaning I took out more then I put it. I was a bit concerned but it said 900ml on the motor so I decided to go with that. The oil light came on not too long later (first stage in my description above). I decided to top it up and used the oil fill bolt to gauge when it was good. Did that, it was okay for a couple days.

Just not I filled up the oil again with the oil fill bolt (it needed about another 50ml) but the light is still on and won't start.

Help? :( :no:

[Yow Ling]

OK I see the problem. Your bike has 2 oil systems, one is the gearbox oil which you changed and filled with 2 stroke oil. Not exactly what you were supposed to do but not the end of the world. the other system is the oiltank unde the seat or somewhere, this tank is where you are supposed to put the 2 stroke oil. The 2 stroke oil is mixed with the petrol just before it goes into the engine, it lubricate the piston and cankshaft bearings. WITHOUT THIS OIL YOUR MOTOR WILL BE BADLY DAMAGED that is what the warning ligt is all about. when ever you ride the bike you consume this oil, thats why it smokes.
First thing get some more 2 stroke oil and put it in the tank. maybe you should drain the gearbox again and fill it to the scew with 2 stroke gearbox oil
you could get the manual for your bke from the library and find out how to bleed the oil pump, may not be necessary but if you have run the tank completly dry you should do this. Dont ride the bike untill you have sorted out this problem or you willbe up for a few hundred in repairs

[n3on]

This is the guide I followed at first, when learning to change the oil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eroSUporeI

It would suggest that the oil I put in was not into the gearbox.. And to me it wouldn't make sense to make the gearbox oil cap so easily accesable and the motor oil, which will need to be topped up more often, so dififcult to get to.

EDIT: Manuals for the Suzuki RGV are not available in english..

[breakaway]

Did you pour the two stroke oil into the gearbox? Yes/No?

[Rcktfsh]

Did you pour the two stroke oil into the gearbox? Yes/No?

my monies on yes though at first i thought it had to be a piss take.

[awayatc]

This U tube video of yours is about changing gearbox oil.....(the friendly American person on the vid speaks of "transmission"-which means gearbox)
No problems with that at all.
Your gearbox oil is fine....
The red light however does not refer to this newly changed gearbox oil.....
This red light will most likely refer to the 2 stroke oil that needs mixing with the fuel.
The red light comes on, because there is not enough, or worse, NONE left...
If you run your 2 stroke combustion engine without 2 stroke oil, you will not even get a single stroke out of it again.....ever.....without some serious rebuilding.....
So please walk to your nearest Repco/servo whatever and buy good quality 2 stroke oil...And put it in the proper tank...(NOT the gearbox this time)
Find out which direction Mecca is , and kneel down and pray....
IF your prayers get answered, replace gearbox oil with proper 2 stroke gear-oil....

[McJim]

I'm picking you're not too mechanically minded or that no-one has explained to you that 2 strokes are different -VERY DIFFERENT - from 4 strokes.

Your bike has 2 oil reservoirs and they both take completely different oil.

A/ 1 reservoir is under your seat. This is the 2 stroke reservoir. You will need to fill this regularly...like every second time you fill your petrol tank you need to fill your 2 stroke oil tank too. Use specific 2 stroke oil, I used to use racing fully synth stuff but I had an RG150 liquid cooled hooligan that I rung the nuts off.

B/ The other reservoir is your gerabox (transmission) oil reservoir and there is a bolt under the engine to drain the old oil and a cap on the engine casin for filling it with the new. This will require changed every 6,000km or so to ensure reduced wear in the gearbox.

It sounds to me like you have put oil meant for A in B and have neglected to put any oil in A. You need to put some quality 2T oil in A as soon as you can and hope that there hasn't been too much damage done.

Let me know how you get on.

[n3on]

@McJim: Awesome. That pretty much explained everything :) and yes, not mechanically minded at all really, just learning (i hope)

On that note, anyone know how to remove the seat? I've taken a look at it before but didn't see any way to do it without removing most of the ferrings (spelling?) on the back half of the bike

[breakaway]

You open it with your key. I used to have a RG150 but I can't remember where the keyhole is :laugh:

Edit: Also, if you put 2 stroke oil into your gearbox, I wouldn't be riding it till you drain it all out and use some proper oil. Remember 2 stroke oil is different to what goes into the gearbox. It's like coke and pepsi. It's sorta the same thing, but not really :lol:

[Max Preload]

It's like coke and pepsi. It's sorta the same thing, but not really :lol:

Yes. Pepsi is better. (I have to say that... :()

[ajturbo]

the other oil (the two stroke oil) is under the rear seat.

ALWAYS keep this as full as pratical, also when filling this, place a rag over the rear wheel (below where you are filling the oil) this will catch the oil when you over fill it, or miss the hole...

also, you need to put in an extra 100cc into the gear box oil MORE than what it reconmends, this stops it from having a 3rd gear seazure when hooning ...

have fun... and IF it shits it's self, contact "billy" from this KB site or "oyster", what those two don't know, is not worth knowing about these great little bikes...

[Ixion]

Yes. Pepsi is better. (I have to say that... :()

Well, I have to say it too.

But you can taste the difference. Can you taste the difference between twostroke oil and gearbox oil?

[Max Preload]

Well, I have to say it too.

But you can taste the difference. Can you taste the difference between twostroke oil and gearbox oil?

I can certainly taste the difference. I hadn't had Pepsi for probably a decade before I started working on a Pepsi owned site 8 months ago and didn't for probably the first 5 months but then I had a Pepsi Max and must say I prefer it and now drink maybe a couple a week.

I'd also prefer two stroke oil (I love the smell of Castrol TTS Extra 2-stroke oil in the morning!) over gear oil, particularly hypoid gear oils as commonly used in differential of the hypoid variety - they're disgusting! :puke:

[McJim]

Well, I have to say it too.

But you can taste the difference. Can you taste the difference between twostroke oil and gearbox oil?

They smell different. You can tell 'em before you taste 'em.

[Ixion]

They smell different. You can tell 'em before you taste 'em.


Which? Pepsi and Coke, or two stroke oil and transmission oil?

[n3on]

haha awesome. Anyone know good place near takapuna/northcote to get >>transmission<< oil? lol :P I know the difference now..

[Max Preload]

haha awesome. Anyone know good place near takapuna/northcote to get >>transmission<< oil? lol :P I know the difference now..

I always used ATF (automatic transmission fluid) in my 2-stroke gearboxes as it's guaranteed wet clutch compatible and they seemed to shift much better.

[Vern]

You open it with your key. I used to have a RG150 but I can't remember where the keyhole is :laugh:

Edit: Also, if you put 2 stroke oil into your gearbox, I wouldn't be riding it till you drain it all out and use some proper oil. Remember 2 stroke oil is different to what goes into the gearbox. It's like coke and pepsi. It's sorta the same thing, but not really :lol:

The Key is the same as the helmet lock one way opens the seat the opposite way opens the helmet lock. Vern:2thumbsup

[n3on]

Thanks everyone! I've got it all working now, running better then I did when I bought it :D

[breakaway]

Also don't EVER let your bike run out of 2 stroke oil (The stuff that you pour in under the seat), or else your motor will destroy itself.

[The Pastor]

As far as learning mistakes go, that was a good one.

At least your bike didnt sezie cos you were riding it when it was out of 2 stroke oil!

[Harvd]

sheeeet tht cuda been bad... lucky you listened to the wise heads on kb:yes: and not those fools on youtube!

[Korea]

my monies on yes though at first i thought it had to be a piss take.

Thought this way p/t too! Glad you found your way onto KB before anything *really* bad happened N3on. :crazy: