Sidecars

[Bonez]

The old mans just had his right leg shortened just above the knee and seems keen on attachng a sidecar to his R80. He doesn't want to convert it to a trike God bless his wee cotten sock. Anyone know any local agents?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I've seen the odd one on tardme, including the Chang Jiang which is kind of BMW military thing WW2 era. Looked cool as.

If you ring Street n Sport motorbikes in christchurch, ask about the Triumph Scrambler with sidecar they've got for sale there. The whole deal is $14k asking (about the cost of the bike...). I thought it was cool as.

I know thats not what you asked but you could sell the R80 (what does he want for it?) and get a Scrambler. its matt black. like mine.

[Bonez]

I've seen the odd one on tardme, including the Chang Jiang which is kind of BMW military thing WW2 era. Looked cool as.

If you ring Street n Sport motorbikes in christchurch, ask about the Triumph Scrambler with sidecar they've got for sale there. The whole deal is $14k asking (about the cost of the bike...). I thought it was cool as.

I know thats not what you asked but you could sell the R80 (what does he want for it?) and get a Scrambler. its matt black. like mine.Shit thats sooo tempting. Thanks, I'll mention it to him.
Was it setup with a standard front end or Earls style? The R80s not negotible at this stage, the siblings will have first dibs on that anyway ;)Long and short it wont leave the family and you have to get it past mum.

[Eurodave]

If you ring Street n Sport motorbikes in christchurch, ask about the Triumph Scrambler with sidecar they've got for sale there. The whole deal is $14k asking (about the cost of the bike...). I thought it was cool as.

I know thats not what you asked but you could sell the R80 (what does he want for it?) and get a Scrambler. its matt black. like mine.

Just as a matter of interest, I made & painted that fibreglass sidecar body..... :msn-wink:

[Bonez]

Just as a matter of interest, I made & painted that fibreglass sidecar body..... :msn-wink:You could'nt grab a pic of it could you Dave? There's a body up for grabs on tardme at the moment.

[Motu]

The official BMW line is the R80 is not suitable for sidecar use - but what the hell do they know? Is it twin or mono shock? I think the mono would be a stronger frame for sidecar use,but they have a shit load of trail which would need reduction....leading link forks is the way to go there.It will need a lower subframe to spread the load,and also need the top links load transfered across the frame to the right hand tubes too.Been done plenty of times,there should be some knowledgeable people out there.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Standard forks IIRC.

no pic on Street and Sports website (http://www.streetandsport.co.nz/index.html) buti ts a great looking bit of kit.

Nice job DAve!

[Bonez]

The official BMW line is the R80 is not suitable for sidecar use - but what the hell do they know? Is it twin or mono shock? .It's monostock. I bump into a dude (Gavin) at last years Cold Duck who coverted an R65,now R80 due to a cylinder being clipped off the R65 donk by a 4be4. My old Haynes Cb500/4 manual shows few angles the bike and sidechair could be set at, funny old thing.

[Eurodave]

Heres a couple while I was painting it in my garage:

[Bonez]

Heres a couple while I was painting it in my garage:Nice:clap::clap:

[Eurodave]

Thanx for your approval guys! Heres a couple more pix of the result our labours finally finished at the recent Chch Brit Bike Show:

[Eurodave]

BTW: The NZ Sidecar Owners Register [NZSOR] can be contacted via:

Ton Hilhorst
221 Eskdale Rd
Birkdale
North Shore City 0626

tonh@xtra.co.nz

[Bonez]

Who did the frame work for the chair Dave?

[pete376403]

New all steel Military style sidecars arriving February, 2009. Available in single and two seater with spare wheel and Tonneau cover. Phone for more details. Sidecars New Zealand, 52 Chelmsford Street, RD 1, Katikati. New Zealand Distributors for IMZ-URAL Motorcycles and Sidecars. Www.imz-ural.com Watsonian Squire Sidecars. Contact Kurt, Phone 07-549-4438, Fax 07-549-4431 or Email: redtriangle@eol.co.nz

Pic shows a friends Yamaha 1100 with Watsonian Squire chair. Beautiful rig, rides really nicely.Gets along ok, too

[Eurodave]

Who did the frame work for the chair Dave?

The current owner did it but I also make & mount my own chassis too
Heres a few more pix of my recent work:

[Voltaire]

I have a r75/5 with a Watsonian GP ( currently seperated)....
As Motu said BMW said the R series was not suitable for a sidecar due to the weak frame and bolt up rear end.
Well I didn't know this and had the GP fitted when I lived in London, a four point set up. Took it to the elefantreffen once and up to the Artic Circle in Norway.
I had a Chaing Jaing a couple of years ago...cool looking but a heavy slower pos you would be hard pressed to find.
The BMW 750 with a 500 cc final drive will haul a Watsonian/Squire sidecar no probs fully loaded....can even see off a Trabant in an autobahn drag...
Forget steel sidecars...too heavy.
The pictures were taken at the '93 Brass Monkey...before my mate lost it on the Rarimu Spiral.....and bent the frame.
Great fun sidecars..especially in the snow.

[RentaTriumph]

Standard forks IIRC.

no pic on Street and Sports website (http://www.streetandsport.co.nz/index.html) buti ts a great looking bit of kit.

Nice job DAve!

Here is a photo and more of the sidecar at http://tomcc.co.nz/triumph_show.htm

[Bonez]

Thank you all for the feedback. Gives us a few ideas.

[pete376403]

I have a r75/5 with a Watsonian GP ( currently seperated)....
Any plans for the Watsonian? I have a GS1100 in the shed looking for a dance partner

[Harvd]

you are one hard bastard Voltaire. bet that was a fun ride home...

[Voltaire]

you are one hard bastard Voltaire. bet that was a fun ride home...

Hard....er no...just like a bit of motorcycle adventure...well...used to....
It was a hard ride home...snowing up the east coast, and freezing up the centre of the North Island......but nothing compared to being tow started in Karl Marx Stadt in Feb at -10 degrees and snow all the way to London.
Now that was a good trip....put the missus off rallys forever.
I got frost nip.....means I get sore hands in the cold now.

sidecar is soooooo not for sale.
Plans to mate it to a R90/5 toaster

[Lucy]

The old mans just had his right leg shortened just above the knee and seems keen on attachng a sidecar to his R80. He doesn't want to convert it to a trike God bless his wee cotten sock. Anyone know any local agents?

Do you want mine?

[Jiminy]

Do you want mine?

Are you giving up yours? Did you mount it or did you only ride the bike on its own?

[Mystic13]

Nice sidecars. What i'm wondering though is why stick a pod on the side. Has you Dad thought about just a tray and wheel like the classic racers.

That would give him a stable sidecar and it would make an interesting talking point. Then on track days he can put it around the track as long as he can find a swinger. Swinging in a race has to be on the things I do before I die list.

I wonder if it can be entered in sidecar races?

Now of course a switchable side car rig that can be swapped pod for tray would be interesting. I just have visions of him riding around the country with a big number on the front of the bike (sidecar) and a tray on the side. Everybody would know the side car.

Having a swinger on the road would be an interesting sight.

[Bonez]

Nice sidecars. What i'm wondering though is why stick a pod on the side. Has you Dad thought about just a tray and wheel like the classic racers. Tis an option or basicly a box arrangement.

[Lucy]

Are you giving up yours? Did you mount it or did you only ride the bike on its own?


Nope I put it on for a while. It was fun riding around town, and I had ideas of charging kids for rides in it on market day. But I've taken it off again because I wanted to go for some bike rides.

I loved riding in the sidecar, but didn't really enjoy riding the bike with the sidecar attached.

Was depressed yesterday because my bike broke down, and Bonez knows the sidecar, so thought I'd mention it.

[Jiminy]

There is also the Eagle-One solution. Not my cup of tea, but worth mentioning here.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-203242060.htm

[Bonez]

Do you want mine?PM sent Lucy.