Myths or truths?

[74 knuckle]

Thought I'd open an old can of worms to see whether it's truth or dying myth. I seem to hear on quite a frequent basis that HOG riders only acknowledge other hog riders. I've been ridin for over twenty years and up until 8 months ago I only ever rode British or japa, yet Irode amongst a heap of hogs all having no problem riding with me. Now I ride my own HOG and I certainly acknowledge every other rider I encounter. In fact if the truth is to be Known I Quite often get ignored by sport bike riders. So is this a myth, or is it a projection to someone elses inadequacies?:mobile:

[98tls]

Most likely your Harley is mistaken for a caravan and who the fuck waves to caravans,just kidding mate,theres a funny caravan thread on here today started by a harley rider that just bought one.

[Hitcher]

It's a generalisation. Harley riders come in many forms and guises.

Some are motorcyclists who just happen to ride Harleys.
Others have signed up to the whole Rugged Individualist(TM) Harley lifestyle.

Buying a Harley and joining HOG provides a whole international network of "friends" and riding buddies. HOG is well resourced and provides a veritable treasure trove of opportunities for those keen enough to take them up.

It's not just about the bike.

[Headbanger]

Most likely your Harley is mistaken for a caravan and who the fuck waves to caravans,just kidding mate,theres a funny caravan thread on here today started by a harley rider that just bought one.

Made me laugh like fuck.

Forum won't let me bling ya though.

[74 knuckle]

Ironically I,ve been in the club/gang scene majority of my young years, Living the image, so to speak, yet the question still remains?

[AllanB]

I get plenty of Harley riders waving now-days. Most are probably lawyers, builders, pimps etc. Also you'll find a lot of HD riders are generally well taught in sign language as their bikes are so friggen loud they tend to be deaf within a year of ownership.........

BMW riders never wave. They honestly believe that other bikes are beneath them and not worthy of a wave...........

GSXR riders tend to 'wave' by popping a wheelie at 160 plus.....
TL riders don't wave - only because if they are at speed they need both hands on the bars.......

Honda riders can easily be spotted by either the halo above their helmet or the pair of white wings poking out the back of their jacket. We like to wave at you mortals.......

Triumph riders wave a lot - Bonnie riders are so glad to be back into biking that they are very sociable chaps, and Speed/Street Triple riders wave rest assured in the knowledge that whatever you are riding, they look cooler!

Yamaha riders wave - fairly rare to see one on the road but they appear happy screaming along at 15,000 rpm.

Ducati/Aprilia riders. Often wave - many don't however and I am sure that this have nothing to do with being anti-social. Its more that they are secure in the knowledge that once they pass you you'll get a warm feeling just enjoying the boom of their open pipes.

[98tls]

I get plenty of Harley riders waving now-days. Most are probably lawyers, builders, pimps etc. Also you'll find a lot of HD riders are generally well taught in sign language as their bikes are so friggen loud they tend to be deaf within a year of ownership.........

BMW riders never wave. They honestly believe that other bikes are beneath them and not worthy of a wave...........

GSXR riders tend to 'wave' by popping a wheelie at 160 plus.....
TL riders don't wave - only because if they are at speed they need both hands on the bars.......

Honda riders can easily be spotted by either the halo above their helmet or the pair of white wings poking out the back of their jacket. We like to wave at you mortals.......

Triumph riders wave a lot - Bonnie riders are so glad to be back into biking that they are very sociable chaps, and Speed/Street Triple riders wave rest assured in the knowledge that whatever you are riding, they look cooler!

Yamaha riders wave - fairly rare to see one on the road but they appear happy screaming along at 15,000 rpm.

Ducati/Aprilia riders. Often wave - many don't however and I am sure that this have nothing to do with being anti-social. Its more that they are secure in the knowledge that once they pass you you'll get a warm feeling just enjoying the boom of their open pipes. OI the slappers stop at 173.5 kmph.:angry:

[piston broke]

I get plenty of Harley riders waving now-days. Most are probably lawyers, builders, pimps etc. Also you'll find a lot of HD riders are generally well taught in sign language as their bikes are so friggen loud they tend to be deaf within a year of ownership.........

BMW riders never wave. They honestly believe that other bikes are beneath them and not worthy of a wave...........

GSXR riders tend to 'wave' by popping a wheelie at 160 plus.....
TL riders don't wave - only because if they are at speed they need both hands on the bars.......

Honda riders can easily be spotted by either the halo above their helmet or the pair of white wings poking out the back of their jacket. We like to wave at you mortals.......

Triumph riders wave a lot - Bonnie riders are so glad to be back into biking that they are very sociable chaps, and Speed/Street Triple riders wave rest assured in the knowledge that whatever you are riding, they look cooler!

Yamaha riders wave - fairly rare to see one on the road but they appear happy screaming along at 15,000 rpm.

Ducati/Aprilia riders. Often wave - many don't however and I am sure that this have nothing to do with being anti-social. Its more that they are secure in the knowledge that once they pass you you'll get a warm feeling just enjoying the boom of their open pipes.

hey we don't need the open pipes to give that warm feelin boom:Punk:

antisocial?
who are you to comment<_< :jerry:

[Winston001]

Ooooeerrrr a thread about waving........that's an interesting idea......






Bet it never catches on.....:buggerd:

[74 knuckle]

Is that your way of getting away from the subject, could it be because of the bmw:scooter:

[Ixion]

I wave at anything on two wheels, cos I am too lazy to try to identify the oncoming bike, remember what I am riding, and figure out if I should wave or not.

Crusiers wave backat about the same proportion as other bikes. I presume a good proportion of the crusiers are Harleys, but I'm not up on crusiers enough to tell the difference between Harleys and metrics, they all look the same. I had a patched Hells Angel wave to me a week or so back. Does seem to help if you have lots of chrome.

[Woodman]

I usually raise a finger in acknowledgement, then as i pass realise that i have handguards :doh:

[awayatc]

I usually raise a finger in acknowledgement,

Usually raise an eyebrow at the one finger salute....

[awayatc]

But for whatever it is worth, I wave to most bikers wether I am on the Aprilia or on the Harley......
Sometimes I just got my hands to full to wave.....But when i am just "toodeling" I wave at anybody...

BUT...at the end of the day: an arsehole on a bike is still an arsehole

[Tank]

What about a wave (but get this - for here in-lies the twist) just for KB'ers - now thats a good idea.

[Tank]

Just checked there are 635 post with "wave" and "Harley" in them

I'm thinking that there must be something to this conspiracy.

[Horse]

What about a wave (but get this - for here in-lies the twist) just for KB'ers - now thats a good idea.

A brilliant idea! Why has no-one ever thought of this?

[slofox]

Yamaha riders wave - fairly rare to see one on the road but they appear happy screaming along at 15,000 rpm.

I followed one such on the Toy Run yesterday...he waved by slipping the clutch and screaming the engine up to max revs...did it all the way from Cambridge to Hammertron...
Oh and a Harley rider waved to me this morning - BEFORE I waved to him...:thud:!!!!

[Headbanger]

Oh and a Harley rider waved to me this morning - BEFORE I waved to him...:thud:!!!!

Did you get his plate by any chance?, The brotherhood will need to hear of this. Action must be taken. The code must remain unbroken.

[peasea]

Thought I'd open an old can of worms to see whether it's truth or dying myth. I seem to hear on quite a frequent basis that HOG riders only acknowledge other hog riders. I've been ridin for over twenty years and up until 8 months ago I only ever rode British or japa, yet Irode amongst a heap of hogs all having no problem riding with me. Now I ride my own HOG and I certainly acknowledge every other rider I encounter. In fact if the truth is to be Known I Quite often get ignored by sport bike riders. So is this a myth, or is it a projection to someone elses inadequacies?:mobile:

I experience the same thing; many sports bike riders ignore my wave or nod but sometimes I might be too busy to wave or nod to another rider or simply forget/can't be arsed etc. I know HD riders are said (usually by sports bike riders) to be snobs but I've found it to be the reverse. I have also found that those who choose to wear German-style helmets and face-masks are usually unwilling to wave or nod. Too tough to be sociable I suppose. Their choice, I don't lose any sleep over it either way.:wavey:

[peasea]

Ironically I,ve been in the club/gang scene majority of my young years, Living the image, so to speak, yet the question still remains?

Do you mind if I ask who you rode with club-wise?

[Blatman]

Auckland riders often nod instead of waving, and it's sometimes almost imperceptible. I tend to be a nodder. Had one guy on the northwestern m\way stick his hand in the air and wave wildly, jeez he looked like he was in need of a few friends! My ratio of nods to being nodded or waved back to would be about 60\40. Hardly ever get replies from Harley guys but then again today two Jappers didn't either, who cares?
Oh and if you were on a Guzzi on the southern motorway and wondered why a V-Max was tailgating you for so long - your missus sure has got a nice butt!:buggerd:

[slofox]

I tend to be a nodder.

Better than being a noddY I suppose...

[Griffin]

What about a wave (but get this - for here in-lies the twist) just for KB'ers - now thats a good idea.

TANK !!! You're my hero, a KB wave... awesome :msn-wink: Now we just need to come up with a style so we know wes KB'rs...

Personally, I wave to all bikers that I see, if they wave back, sweet, if they dont... I call them names usually preceded with an expletive :2guns:

[Gubb]

Street Triple riders wave rest assured in the knowledge that whatever you are riding, they look cooler

..I like you...

[AD345]

I only wave to bikes in corners.

Its funny as hell

[usa-vtwin]

I just got back into riding...have a Harley...to date no ones waved or otherwise.

[Bonez]

TANK !!! You're my hero, a KB wave... awesome :msn-wink: Now we just need to come up with a style so we know wes KB'rs...It should be noted that this is not a new idea and is probably in the merged waving thread somewhere.

[Radar]

What about a wave (but get this - for here in-lies the twist) just for KB'ers - now thats a good idea.

This idea keeps getting mentioned but nothing ever comes of it.

Seems like a good idea until you think about it: What can you do with a wave to make it distinctive? A salute off your helmet, or pointing to the ground or straight up? There's not many alternatives and the only way its ever going to happen is for someone to have KB'ers vote by posting a poll but even then most KB'ers probably don't give a stuff about a special KB wave. For that matter, I have only seen one bike with a KB sticker; most KB'ers don't seem to give a crap about promoting KB away from the computer.



... I have also found that those who choose to wear German-style helmets and face-masks are usually unwilling to wave or nod. Too tough to be sociable I suppose. Their choice, I don't lose any sleep over it either way.:wavey:

Same here - the German helmet I-wanna-look-tough riders don't wave or nod. In January I spent over two weeks touring the N and S Islands, clocking up nearly 6,000 km and during that time I did a loose survey of who waves/nods. Most cruisers do not, especially Harleys, so now I don't bother with them unless they wave/nod first. Most but not all sport bikes nod/wave. The most enthusiastic wave was from a GN250 rider on the S Island - say what you want about GN's but some of those guys sure enjoy riding!

[Griffin]

What about a wave (but get this - for here in-lies the twist) just for KB'ers - now thats a good idea.


TANK !!! You're my hero, a KB wave... awesome :msn-wink: Now we just need to come up with a style so we know wes KB'rs...



It should be noted that this is not a new idea and is probably in the merged waving thread somewhere.


This idea keeps getting mentioned but nothing ever comes of it.

:slap: Dear Bonez and Radar, please accept the following message as a short lesson in recognising sarcasm... (not that I want to teach you to suck :baby: )

See tanks post... notice the sarcasm dripping from each word, now see my post... see its full of sarcasm to 'back up' Tanks sarcasm...?

Also notice that were neither of us new members so chances are we are very aware of previous 'waving' threads and have both chosen to reply to this thread with the demeanour it deserves... obviously a little too subtle...?

OH! and by the way... the REAL reason Tank is my hero is because of his profile pic...

[Headbanger]

Still too subtle me thinks.

try this

KB Wave=Giant pisstake.

[Radar]

OH! and by the way... the REAL reason Tank is my hero is because of his profile pic...

Yeah, classic!


BTW, I did in fact catch the sarcasm. Anyone on KB for a long time knows the Wave/Nod thread has been overdone but "74 knuckle" only joined recently.

[Bonez]

See tanks post... notice the sarcasm dripping from each word, now see my post... see its full of sarcasm to 'back up' Tanks sarcasm...?.It was noted hence the hint about the merged waving thread. I see you missed that. Mods seem slow on the uptake these days.

How many Hero parades have you been to? I hear they wave too.

[Griffin]

It was noted hence the hint about the merged waving thread.

Hmm... yeah... ok - sure.

And to date, I havent been to any Hero parades... although I wouldnt mind seeing one some day. Im sure that they do wave... and they probably recognise sarcasm too :shifty:

[Bonez]

Hmm... yeah... ok - sure.

And to date, I havent been to any Hero parades... although I wouldnt mind seeing one some day. Im sure that they do wave... and they probably recognise sarcasm too :shifty:Are tassles compulsury?

[Griffin]

Are tassles compulsury?

Depends on what kind of bike you ride...

[Headbanger]

In a perfect world everyone would proudly fly tassels with no need to make them for compulsory......






:bleh:

[The Lone Rider]

Thought I'd open an old can of worms to see whether it's truth or dying myth. I seem to hear on quite a frequent basis that HOG riders only acknowledge other hog riders. I've been ridin for over twenty years and up until 8 months ago I only ever rode British or japa, yet Irode amongst a heap of hogs all having no problem riding with me. Now I ride my own HOG and I certainly acknowledge every other rider I encounter. In fact if the truth is to be Known I Quite often get ignored by sport bike riders. So is this a myth, or is it a projection to someone elses inadequacies?:mobile:

To clear up ANOTHER myth, here ya go:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1348310&postcount=53

[74 knuckle]

Thank you for the information, something that I was unaware of, and yes perhaps I should of stated with more clarity that I meant Harley Davidson Riders My apologies if this has been taken out of context, with my oversight in wording.:Oops:

[Bonez]

Depends on what kind of bike you ride...So you're saying tassles are bikecentric?
What, in your opion. is the RIGHT kind of bike?

I do see advantages in having tassles. For example-handle bar tassles can be used as fly swats.

[retro asian]

I got waves from Harleys twice on the way down to Paeroa...

They must have been fooled by the front of my Suzuki... hahaha

[R1madness]

I just got back into riding...have a Harley...to date no ones waved or otherwise.

nice bike, ride by the shop and introduce yourself or give a wave as you ride past, one of us will prob see ya and give ya a wave. There are the odd group of hd guys that call in for social chat/meetup 4 ride type thing on a sunday afternoon. always happy to get phone numbers of others looking to join them on a ride.

[NOWOOL]

I find HOGS wave more often than other riders (even if i'm on the GN250). I'd agree that sportsbike riders wave the least. Maybe its an age thing.

[LBD]

Nobody but absolutely nobody waves in Kyrgyzstan....ever.

How do you recognise a foreign driver in Kyrgyzstan? hes the one waving....

I wave and am getting a complex about the responses I get

[mdnzz]

I find ya wear a full face shoei helmet and harley owners don't wave back and sprots look at ya wierd like.
Though had a sprot owner wave to me in a corner up Godley Head yesterday, had to wave back of course.
But whats a wave worth , bugga all really so why not, if they wave back all good if not stuff em.

[R1madness]

I find ya wear a full face shoei helmet and harley owners don't wave back and sprots look at ya wierd like.
Though had a sprot owner wave to me in a corner up Godley Head yesterday, had to wave back of course.
But whats a wave worth , bugga all really so why not, if they wave back all good if not stuff em.

the sport bike rider obvoiusly got confused, he would have come around the corner, seen the helmet and started to wave, noticed the bike and tried to retract the wave but have you ever tried to retract a wave? it makes ya look like a waving spastic.....
(JOKES)

[AD345]

We've been thinking about this weighty subject as a club and have decided to take some steps to address the matter. Due to the many vagaries involved in waving, especially as to format, timing and level of enthusiasm, we have decided to have a designated 'waver" for each run.

This person will take on all of the waving duties and will be held responsible for portraying the ethos of the club by diligently waving in the appropriate manner (dependant, of course, on the wavee). At end end of each run the waver will give a full report of all waves initiated and/or responded to. This data will be collected into the club archives and one on every full moon we will collate waves for and against and decide on approprate next steps. In the event of a waving deficit with an identified individual, group or stereotype we will institute a retributive wave (to be decided) or in the unlikely event of a waving surplus with an identified individual, group or stereotype we will seek said individual, group or stereotype out and descend upon them en masse in a recognised "Club Wave Run".

Thus our waving obligations should be discharged fairly to all

[74 knuckle]

thanks for the incentive, look forward to reading your collated information:scooter:

[mdnzz]

the sport bike rider obvoiusly got confused, he would have come around the corner, seen the helmet and started to wave, noticed the bike and tried to retract the wave but have you ever tried to retract a wave? it makes ya look like a waving spastic.....
(JOKES)

I did wonder that but then he was waving and not giving the :finger: so he might notta been a KB'r:dodge::whistle:

[Rob Taylor]

I get plenty of Harley riders waving now-days. Most are probably lawyers, builders, pimps etc. Also you'll find a lot of HD riders are generally well taught in sign language as their bikes are so friggen loud they tend to be deaf within a year of ownership.........

BMW riders never wave. They honestly believe that other bikes are beneath them and not worthy of a wave...........

GSXR riders tend to 'wave' by popping a wheelie at 160 plus.....
TL riders don't wave - only because if they are at speed they need both hands on the bars.......

Honda riders can easily be spotted by either the halo above their helmet or the pair of white wings poking out the back of their jacket. We like to wave at you mortals.......

Triumph riders wave a lot - Bonnie riders are so glad to be back into biking that they are very sociable chaps, and Speed/Street Triple riders wave rest assured in the knowledge that whatever you are riding, they look cooler!

Yamaha riders wave - fairly rare to see one on the road but they appear happy screaming along at 15,000 rpm.

Ducati/Aprilia riders. Often wave - many don't however and I am sure that this have nothing to do with being anti-social. Its more that they are secure in the knowledge that once they pass you you'll get a warm feeling just enjoying the boom of their open pipes.

I have read this comment over & over again.Somebody sure has put alot of thought into this....I think im falling in love with a posting:hug::calm::beer:

[Rob Taylor]

We've been thinking about this weighty subject as a club and have decided to take some steps to address the matter. Due to the many vagaries involved in waving, especially as to format, timing and level of enthusiasm, we have decided to have a designated 'waver" for each run.

This person will take on all of the waving duties and will be held responsible for portraying the ethos of the club by diligently waving in the appropriate manner (dependant, of course, on the wavee). At end end of each run the waver will give a full report of all waves initiated and/or responded to. This data will be collected into the club archives and one on every full moon we will collate waves for and against and decide on approprate next steps. In the event of a waving deficit with an identified individual, group or stereotype we will institute a retributive wave (to be decided) or in the unlikely event of a waving surplus with an identified individual, group or stereotype we will seek said individual, group or stereotype out and descend upon them en masse in a recognised "Club Wave Run".

Thus our waving obligations should be discharged fairly to all

And i fucken like this too:Punk:

[CookMySock]

In fact if the truth is to be Known I Quite often get ignored by sport bike riders. So is this a myth, or is it a projection to someone elses inadequacies?:mobile:For myself, I acknowledge everyone (almost waved at a caravan the other day /fail) but mostly the cruiser riders just ignore me. After a while I gave up waving at the cruiser riders - I felt a bit disheartened by it actually. Occasionally I'll give it another shot depending on how I am feeling, and quite often I get a (surprised?) wave back from them! So stuffed if I know - I just go ride and be myself, just like they are.

Steve

[usa-vtwin]

I ride a Harley around Ch Ch and seldom does 'anyone' wave. Another Harley rider stopped on the other side of the lights did wave the other day and I was shocked! To be fair I sometimes nod ,,,easier than waving.. Doesnt bother me...I'm to busy enjoying my ride.

[rosie631]

I just got back into riding...have a Harley...to date no ones waved or otherwise.

Maybe it's a Christchurch thing then? I find hardly anyone waves regardless of bike. I acknowledge everyone but am getting sick of being ignored. :weep::weep:

[74 knuckle]

Now that must be a let down, isn't tthe south Island supposed to be the friendlier Island?

[rosie631]

Now that must be a let down, isn't tthe south Island supposed to be the friendlier Island?

So they say. Not so bad away from Christchurch.
Nice bike BTW :niceone:

[Pwalo]

Myths and truths are fine, but we probably need some facts.

[peasea]

Myths and truths are fine, but we probably need some facts.

A fact?

There's a little piece of skin between the fuckhole and the muckhole and if you miss the fuckhole and hit the muckhole, you're in the shit and that's a fact!

[caseye]

LOL so the moral of this story? don't miss the Fact and you'll arrive in the right place! Wave on the way and it could turn to shiet!This has beena fun 10 minutes or so reading through, cheers guys.

[savedkiwi1]

I recon that most people do wave, some don't or wont, but student scooter riders even though they are on two wheels dont care bout no one

[6ft5]

I just got back into riding...have a Harley...to date no ones waved or otherwise.

Same here, just got a 99 Harley and waves are yet to mature. Am into a special KB recognition. Enjoy

[peasea]

Same here, just got a 99 Harley and waves are yet to mature. Am into a special KB recognition. Enjoy

Seriously; what does it matter?

Enjoy the ride, wave, chuck rocks, eggs or spit at each other.....

Enjoy the ride. (And chuck really big rocks at cops and sports bike riders....)

[6ft5]

Seriously; what does it matter?

Enjoy the ride, wave, chuck rocks, eggs or spit at each other.....

Enjoy the ride. (And chuck really big rocks at cops and sports bike riders....)

cool will throw whatever I can find . . .LOL

[CRM]

Riding my VF700 Magna cruiser from Invers to Whangarei in March I waved at everyone (except scooters - just didn't feel right somehow...) Most waved back except for the Harley guys - they kind of seemed to treat me like I was on a scooter... :scooter:

Of course you get a few non-Harleyesques that won't wave and I give them excuses; recent relationship breakdown, bee in helmet, talking on their cellphone via bluetooth headset, wondering where they are, just going too fast to see me; whatever...

So unfortunately the Harley stereotype is actually true. Just like Skyline drivers don't indicate at roundabouts (you watch - it's uncanny) :laugh:

[6ft5]

hmmm, don't get it, we are riding because we like to why not acknowledge eachother eh

[s8306]

hmmm, don't get it, we are riding because we like to why not acknowledge eachother eh

Because unfortunately there's some and not just Harley riders either,that think if you're not riding a particular style of bike, you're not riding.

[caseye]

Well I wave to harley riders, it doens't change a thing, they don't wave back.I don't care, only ones I don't wave to are scooter drivers with t shirts, short's and jandals on, they're to stupid to waste time on anyhow.

[xwhatsit]

Just like Skyline drivers don't indicate at roundabouts (you watch - it's uncanny) :laugh:
The hell!! You're right!! That's scary. Why?!

[6ft5]

Well I wave to harley riders, it doens't change a thing, they don't wave back.I don't care, only ones I don't wave to are scooter drivers with t shirts, short's and jandals on, they're to stupid to waste time on anyhow.

Sounds like me lets keep it going :chase:

[peasea]

Well I wave to harley riders, it doens't change a thing, they don't wave back.I don't care, only ones I don't wave to are scooter drivers with t shirts, short's and jandals on, they're to stupid to waste time on anyhow.

I frequently get no response from sports bike riders when I give a nod or whatever and I'm sure it's effect on my mental health.

[bogan]

obviously not the end of the world if someone doesnt wave back, but it is amusing that the highest proportion who dont wave back are riding cruisers, maybe its just cos im on a sportsbike (wee bit of a stretch there :P), or maybe the handling is just to finnicky to take ones hand off the bars:shifty:

[James Deuce]

Just. Stop. Already.

FFS.