Cost of Ducati service?

[nodrog]

i am new to ducs and i was just wondering if anyone could give me a rough idea of what a tune, belt and valve check is worth on a 996, and if the belts etc need renewing how much it would be? i dont need a full service as i can do the usual plugs, filters, and oil etc myself, but as my toolbox lacks thousands of dollars of specialist ducati tools i think i will leave the tricky stuff to the pros!

cheers.

[Blakamin]

i am new to ducs and i was just wondering if anyone could give me a rough idea of what a tune, belt and valve check is worth on a 996, and if the belts etc need renewing how much it would be? i dont need a full service as i can do the usual plugs, filters, and oil etc myself, but as my toolbox lacks thousands of dollars of specialist ducati tools i think i will leave the tricky stuff to the pros!

cheers.
have a search on the net and you'll find that the belts are easy to adjust/replace... mines just an old 2 valve so I do all the work myself.... (and I'm a cheap bastard)

edit... in fact, most bits don't even use special tools... 5 and 6mm allen keys... good belt check tool....

[Sensei]

Hey there Nodrog
You will look at about $400 approx . Take ya flairings off to save money & scratches . This if you need all your shim's changed & new belts . Get genuine Ducati belts , change every 20k shim's every 10k
SENSEI

[onearmedbandit]

Wasn't it a requirement to drop the motor on the 916 series to do a full service? If so, did that carry through to the 996 and 998? Or is this just another urban myth??

[Sensei]

Just the first 916's was easyer to take the heads off & adjust .But changed that on later models as owner's didn't like the fucken $$$$ services , To do with the position of checking the shim's were very tricky . No worrys with the 2 valve models
SENSEI

[moko]

If you`re buying new mate best check the score with your dealer first mate.Bike mags here advise people not to touch any Ducati without full service history done at a Duke dealer and I know personally and have read in the press about guys who cant shift their Ducatis because they`ve serviced them themselves and no-one wants to know.1 guy I know has an immaculate 600ss that no-one will touch as it dosnt have Duke SH,he`s gone as low as the price of a same year Yam DTR125 which was under half the price new and still no-one will touch it,same story with another mates 600 Monster.Worse even the dealers wont touch them because punters want official FSH on these things.N.Z. may well have a different attitude.

[Bleck K6]

Hi nodrog,Did you buy that 996 at shaws?

[nodrog]

Hi nodrog,Did you buy that 996 at shaws?
howzit tiller, na i brought it of a guy in aucks, he had a full service done on it about two years ago he reckons, said he had the belts replaced with some titanium ones (if there is such a thing), haldanes knew the bike and they said the engine was sweet, but i just want to get it checked over just incase.

cheers.

[et al]

FYI: 10,000k service on my 996 cost me $822. However this included a clutch mod to get rid of noise from standard clutch - I recommend you get that done if you have not already. Labour component was $525 ($60/hr). I was a bit disappointed that it took them 3 days to complete the job, apparently the mechanic got diverted onto other jobs but anyway you might want to prepare yourself for being likewise separated from your Italian girlfriend for that long as well - is hopefully worst case scenario. Hope this info helps you - my next service (20,000k) is actually due now and I am expecting it to cost more (includes belts this time). I am completely capable of doing Plugs, filters, oil etc myself but like others have already said, for resale purposes it is important to have the supporting documentation to show you have had it all done properly by authorised dealer. NB: I have given it an oil change in between services as I reckon 10,000k is too long to leave oil in any bike.

[Stevo]

Sounds like them Duke dealers learnt how to charge from the BMW,Rover and other European vehicle manufacturers. LOL

Shit it is gooooood havin a Honda.

[Blakamin]

it's also good not giving a "flying entrance" about resale value and just enjoying yer bike tooo!!!!

I do everything myself.... specially considering after my tyre change, the Duc dealers "forgot" to tighten the axle-to-swingarm tensioning bolts.....

[nodrog]

[QUOTE=Blakamin]it's also good not giving a "flying entrance" about resale value and just enjoying yer bike tooo!!!!


amen to that blakamin, i dont really give a toss what the resale value ends up being, too busy riding it.

oh and i could also park it up it my garage, taking it out only every year on its birthday to give it a polish, would this help with resale value too? :2thumbsup

[Corse1]

After a certain Hamilton Ducati agent stuffed up a simple clutch clean 3 years ago resulting in me making it only several 100 meters down the road, I chose to do all the servicing myself.
My 10000km valve check I had two valves slightly outside tolerance. When i approached another agent in different town, they said they would not have bothered adjusting!! I chose to do it. I also choose to pull all the cams to allow acces to check rocker chrome wear which I do not think all dealers do. I suppose large clearances would be a tell tale sign of chrome flaking.
I just get the dealer to balance the throttle bodies and adjust fueling.
All the money I save on service would be more than the drop in resale value, not to mention the peace of mind knowing the service is completed with care.
I keep a good log book ....and yeah just ride the bloody things.

[Crasherfromwayback]

After a certain Hamilton Ducati agent stuffed up a simple clutch clean 3 years ago resulting in me making it only several 100 meters down the road, I chose to do all the servicing myself.
I chose to do it. I also check rocker chrome wear which I do not think all dealers do. I suppose large clearances would be a tell tale sign of chrome flaking.


Chrome wear? Think you'd better get a Ducati dealer to do it for you after all.

[Corse1]

Chrome wear? Think you'd better get a Ducati dealer to do it for you after all.

Afflicting 4 valve up to 2003 - 2004 models but no chrome wear yet...................and I am well capable of fixing that myself as well:yes: I'd rather spend the service labour charge on petrol and beer.

Faulty chrome from the factory............................having said that an Aprilia tuono factory 08 model is starting to get attractive as trade up:shifty:

[LBD]

FYI: 10,000k service on my 996 cost me $822. However this included a clutch mod to get rid of noise from standard clutch - I recommend you get that done if you have not already. .

Can you expand on the clutch mod and what it entails?

[DMNTD]

Hey Nobrot...so tell the class how well your Duc went with Harley oil innit! :shifty:

[nodrog]

Hey Nobrot...so tell the class how well your Duc went with Harley oil innit! :shifty:

wrong bike DUMTED

[DMNTD]

wrong bike DUMTED

True that Mister...t'was your 'Prilia

[Crasherfromwayback]

Afflicting 4 valve up to 2003 - 2004 models but no chrome wear yet...................and I am well capable of fixing that myself as well:yes: I'd rather spend the service labour charge on petrol and beer.

Faulty chrome from the factory............................having said that an Aprilia tuono factory 08 model is starting to get attractive as trade up:shifty:

I was meaning that I doubt very much the rockers have a chrome surface mate. Hardened yes...but chromed no.

[onearmedbandit]

I was meaning that I doubt very much the rockers have a chrome surface mate. Hardened yes...but chromed no.

Apparently they do.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/archive/index.php/t-85302.html

[Corse1]

Apparently they do.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/archive/index.php/t-85302.html

:yes: :yes: :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Christ...what a shit idea! Bad enough when your wear through the hardened surface...but to have chrome flakes spread around....nice one Ducati! And humble apologies to Corse1!

[et al]

Can you expand on the clutch mod and what it entails?
LBD: They put in an extra plate (not sure which of the two types of plate they added, I am sure you can "Google" it for more info). By the way when I got my S4RS I asked if the "quiet clutch mod" could be done to that and was told "No" because the clutch setup is somehow different.

[Bikemad]

dont think theres an xtra plate in the assembly.............got mine sorted by Dave Cole a while back and from memory he said he just stacks them differently from factory.............

[Corse1]

Christ...what a shit idea! Bad enough when your wear through the hardened surface...but to have chrome flakes spread around....nice one Ducati! And humble apologies to Corse1!

No worries Crasherfromwayback..you can also tell by flake evidence in the oil screen...easy to check when doing an oil change so you don't have to wait until 10000k.

You can get new reconditioned (better) rockers from the states as an exchange if or when this affliction hits....bloody Italians

[Crasherfromwayback]

And no doubt a shitload quicker than waiting for the Italians to send them to you as well!

[imdying]

I didn't read that techy looking post... but can you take them out and have them stripped and hardened before they start to shred themselves?

[Corse1]

Can you expand on the clutch mod and what it entails?

It involves adding 2 (I only had room for 1) STEEL friction plate at the bottom of the clutch stack rather than the steel first that contains the pack on the hub. This loads the pack slightly against the basket rather than the end of the hub and stops all the noise plus extends the life of the clutch. less banging about = less wear.
Easier on the square edged older 900 ss type baskets but can still be done on the aluminium radiused end slot baskets. You have to grind/file an angle on the side of the tabs of the friction disc si the sharp edge does not dig into the basket.

Basically you want the added friction disc/s to sit against the bottom of the hub slots and still prevent the first steel from sitting against the start of the hub slots by 0.5mm. I had to remove one steel from my pack to make it work. 10000k's now with no problem. they reckon it could add end thrust to the case bearing but there are no reported problems from anyone with the mod.
here is one thread ignoring the first post as it discusses a different option.
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=73438&highlight=quiet+clutch+mod
Search the internet and you would find more or PM me for more info.......

[Corse1]

dont think theres an xtra plate in the assembly.............got mine sorted by Dave Cole a while back and from memory he said he just stacks them differently from factory.............

This could be another quiet clutch mod where they change the order of the double steel plates from the outside of the stack to the inside thereby shuffling all the friction plates to the position where the steels were. This means they now sit in the "ungrooved" worn section of the basket slots equaling less rattle and quieter clutch.

[Corse1]

LBD: They put in an extra plate (not sure which of the two types of plate they added, I am sure you can "Google" it for more info). By the way when I got my S4RS I asked if the "quiet clutch mod" could be done to that and was told "No" because the clutch setup is somehow different.

Yes when I asked haldanes for any old steel friction plates they said I could not put the quiet clutch mod on a Ducati with an aluminium basket that has the radiused slot ends. Thats bullshit....it just takes a bit more fiddling around and measuring to get the position correct so it sits at the bottom of the basket 0.5mm proud of the hub slots. I had to lose one steel to maintain the correct positrion at the outside of the hub. It seems that engineering tolerances are not that great so people have to adjust to suit.

the older steel baskets with square end slots must be an easy retrofit. Just throw the extra steels in the bottom and away you go. Griunding or filing the tangs of the steel friction plate to sit in the correct position against the radius of the ali basket is not that hard.

But hell its worth it...less noise and longer life.

[LBD]

Thanks for the clutch mod tips guys I will look into it. I fitted an EVR slipper to the monster for the slipper action and hopefully to be quieter(48T basket). Slipper function works well but she sings at a higher pitch than the std Duc clutch.

I have had a Duc street slipper clutch fitted to the 1098, will discuss making the mod to this bike, (I have a spare complete new clutch to suit, so can grab a plate or two from there)