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Harvd
6th March 2009, 21:35
I have a friend who has been riding a 50cc scoot 4 about 3 years and he now wants to move up to a motorbike and wants me to help him find one as he has the mechanical prowess of a biscut. the thing is he is a complete idiot on his scooter and the other day i sw him pull up at my house in jandals shorts a tee shirt and his helmet unclipped... i asked him about the helmet and said he couldnt be bothered doing it up. (its one of the new clippy ones)

i mean yea it would be cool to have a friend who rides too but damn hes a freakin idiot sumtimes.

should i help him find something? maybe i could but i could take him gear shopping first for gloves jacket and a new helmet? or maybe i should let him crash his scoot and get scarred up and wised up? then help him

Blackshear
6th March 2009, 21:56
I have a friend who has been riding a 50cc scoot 4 about 3 years and he now wants to move up to a motorbike and wants me to help him find one as he has the mechanical prowess of a biscut. the thing is he is a complete idiot on his scooter and the other day i sw him pull up at my house in jandals shorts a tee shirt and his helmet unclipped... i asked him about the helmet and said he couldnt be bothered doing it up. (its one of the new clippy ones)

i mean yea it would be cool to have a friend who rides too but damn hes a freakin idiot sumtimes.

should i help him find something? maybe i could but i could take him gear shopping first for gloves jacket and a new helmet? or maybe i should let him crash his scoot and get scarred up and wised up? then help him

Show him that ridetolive or ridetodie website.

Harvd
6th March 2009, 22:01
yea i might just have to school him up a bit coz i dnt wanna be responsible 4 him gettn munted when i know its probably not the best idea

dwnundabkr
6th March 2009, 22:08
best advice i ever gave to a mate always wear your gear when ridin this includes boots, helmet, gloves and either leathers of full padding,
he thanked me after he clipped the back of a food caravan at around 100 clicks and ended in a screaming heap in the culvert.
come out with a couple of scratches lucky bastard
first road bike 748s duke

MyGSXF
6th March 2009, 22:15
the other day i sw him pull up at my house in jandals shorts a tee shirt and his helmet unclipped... i asked him about the helmet and said he couldnt be bothered doing it up.

<_< No wonder MY rego fees are going through the roof.. to cover the ACC costs of dickheads like him! :bash:



maybe i could but i could take him gear shopping first for gloves jacket and a new helmet?

Take him in to see Phil at 'Street & Sport' on Manchester St! :niceone:

White trash
6th March 2009, 22:21
Oh FFS. He's a friend, yeah? You just said he was.

So help him out with looking for a bike. Who gives a shit if he wheres jandals on his scooter

I've got a friend who does drugs. Do I go, "You're a friend, but I'm not going to help work on your car because I don't smoke drugs and you do"?

We help friends, that's what friends do. We try to guide them but if our opinions differ, we don't judge them and abandom them for it. Do we?

Christ, lose the hollier than thou attitude and give the man a hand.

Jesus. I did a wheelie once. What a cock. Shoot me quick.

Blackshear
6th March 2009, 22:30
Oh FFS. He's a friend, yeah? You just said he was.

So help him out with looking for a bike. Who gives a shit if he wheres jandals on his scooter

I've got a friend who does drugs. Do I go, "You're a friend, but I'm not going to help work on your car because I don't smoke drugs and you do"?

We help friends, that's what friends do. We try to guide them but if our opinions differ, we don't judge them and abandom them for it. Do we?

Christ, lose the hollier than thou attitude and give the man a hand.

Jesus. I did a wheelie once. What a cock. Shoot me quick.

Not to start a war or anything, but if encouraged one of my mates to step up to a bigger bike when he was just asking for a hospital, i'd feel guilty as fuck if he got wasted.

My ex-boss jsut got an FXR150, and was riding it with sneakers and a hoodie.
He's not so shit hot, and I told him to ride with my jacket on for a few minutes, and i'd shut up if he didn't feel more confident with it on.
He came to me today in a full suit, Boots, jacket, pants and gloves, told me he felt so much safer.
Horses for courses, but just my 2c worth.

Also, I think I need to hold back some commas in the future. So many :doh:

zzzbang
6th March 2009, 22:32
So help him out with looking for a bike. Who gives a shit if he wheres jandals on his scooter


no need to get worked up about this... the guy is concerned for his friends safety. let your friends drink and drive? that sounds responsible, same type of situation or am i wrong?

White trash
6th March 2009, 22:33
Not to start a war or anything, but if encouraged one of my mates to step up to a bigger bike when he was just asking for a hospital, i'd feel guilty as fuck if he got wasted.

My ex-boss jsut got an FXR150, and was riding it with sneakers and a hoodie.
He's not so shit hot, and I told him to ride with my jacket on for a few minutes, and i'd shut up if he didn't feel more confident with it on.
He came to me today in a full suit, Boots, jacket, pants and gloves, told me he felt so much safer.
Horses for courses, but just my 2c worth.

Also, I think I need to hold back some commas in the future. So many :doh:
Granted. We can make a difference.

But the question is, "Helping out a friend...... should I?"

For me it's a no brainer. You help out friends.

White trash
6th March 2009, 22:43
no need to get worked up about this... the guy is concerned for his friends safety. let your friends drink and drive? that sounds responsible, same type of situation or am i wrong?
Similar to a degree, but by no means the same issue.

Firstly. Drinking and driving is illegal. By "helping out" a friend who was considering D&D you're implying I'd hand him the keys.

Wearing jandals and a singlet on a bike is (thoroughly stupid) but as long as the skid lid's fitted, entirley legal. As previously stated, we do what we can but we're not nannies.

Let's flip this coin.

You say, "No. You're not responsible enough to own a bike because you wear jandals". Our "mate" says "Sweet as" and jumps on tard me. We already know he's got Skidmarks mechanical skills. He ends up with a ZXR250 that the swingarm pivot bolt hasn't been tightened on and throws himself of a cliff.

Now, do you HONESTLY feel better for taking the moral high ground and not looking this piece of shit over and it's his own fucken fault for wearing jandals? Or do you wish to god you'd gone to have a look with him and told him it's a pirece of shit that he should stay clear of?

Hmmmmmmm........

Help your friend out and TRY to make hime see the light.

Edit: I'm not worked up, I'm pissed.

zzzbang
6th March 2009, 22:49
k, you got me there. help him find a decent bike if hes going to buy one anyway. if he wants to be stupid then who are you to stop him.

White trash
6th March 2009, 22:52
k, you got me there. help him find a decent bike if hes going to buy one anyway. if he wants to be stupid then who are you to stop him.
What?

That's not how we argue around here sonny. Come back!

Blackshear
6th March 2009, 23:02
Granted. We can make a difference.

But the question is, "Helping out a friend...... should I?"

For me it's a no brainer. You help out friends.

You're a confusing man, you are.
I feel like i'm walking into a trap!!!

G... GO AWAY YOU!

Lucy
7th March 2009, 00:03
Not to start a war or anything, but if encouraged one of my mates to step up to a bigger bike when he was just asking for a hospital, i'd feel guilty as fuck if he got wasted.

My ex-boss jsut got an FXR150, and was riding it with sneakers and a hoodie.
He's not so shit hot, and I told him to ride with my jacket on for a few minutes, and i'd shut up if he didn't feel more confident with it on.
He came to me today in a full suit, Boots, jacket, pants and gloves, told me he felt so much safer.
Horses for courses, but just my 2c worth.

Also, I think I need to hold back some commas in the future. So many :doh:


What if he feels so much more confident now, he rides harder, faster and stupider?

Blackshear
7th March 2009, 00:27
What if he feels so much more confident now, he rides harder, faster and stupider?

He rides an FXR150, and thought 10,000rpm on my bike was too much...
Holy shit a moth flew out of my hairtie...
Anywho, yeah yeah point taken, but at least his helmet covers his face, and his skin can't melt off.
Can't buy stupid suppression gear, people get cocky at some point or another anyway.


P.s. You're mean.

RocKai
7th March 2009, 02:05
I reckon if a person who has enough sense to get himself some gear or full gear will have a sense of safety as well.

Your mate is d#$head, just tell him that:
See what I told you so" when his arse eat some gravels. And if he has been on a scoot for 4 years with no gears then what makes you think he will get gears for a bike. Just go to youtube and show him some squids on roads and he'll realize, but that's not a guarantee somehow, just my guts feelings. :zzzz:

RocKai
7th March 2009, 02:07
And a 150 won't do as much damage with the accel as a 250 nevertheless :doctor:. Unless you've had some gravels in your mouth or similar you'll never wake up to how bad some small things can get you in the shit.

XxKiTtiExX
7th March 2009, 07:37
Should you "help" your friend. Good question, we all like "helping" our friends. So the answer is yes!!! "Help" your friend get kitted up properly with correct gear.........











Than "help" him find a bike.

Goodluck.

Harvd
7th March 2009, 18:58
[QUOTE=Blackshear;1968752]Not to start a war or anything, but if encouraged one of my mates to step up to a bigger bike when he was just asking for a hospital, i'd feel guilty as fuck if he got wasted.

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thats exactly it. i mean he probly wouldnt get 1 unless i help him because he wouldnt no where to start.

i dont wanna be the guy that gets him into it if he gets wasted

but then again its his life and if he wants to then i thnk i should probly... dam just sold a fxr woulda been perfect.

arnt moral dilemmas fun!

Lucy
7th March 2009, 19:10
I reckon if a person who has enough sense to get himself some gear or full gear will have a sense of safety as well.

Your mate is d#$head, just tell him that:
See what I told you so" when his arse eat some gravels. And if he has been on a scoot for 4 years with no gears then what makes you think he will get gears for a bike. Just go to youtube and show him some squids on roads and he'll realize, but that's not a guarantee somehow, just my guts feelings. :zzzz:

I used to ride a 50cc scooter with no safety gear. Never occurred to me in a million years (although I didn't actually ride it for a million years), I considered it a bike with a motor.

When I got my motorbike I knew I had to get safety gear.

Don't write him off too soon.

TLDV8
7th March 2009, 19:13
I have a friend who has been riding a 50cc scoot 4 about 3 years and he now wants to move up to a motorbike and wants me to help him find one as he has the mechanical prowess of a biscut. the thing is he is a "complete idiot on his scooter" and the other day i sw him pull up at my house in jandals shorts a tee shirt "and his helmet unclipped"... i asked him about the helmet and said "he couldnt be bothered doing it up". (its one of the new clippy ones)


You can put a chimp in a suit but they are still a chimp.
If your mate has been riding for three years already and is still that lazy and learned nothing, feel free to guide him to the scene of his first real accident,all the riding gear in the world will not save an idiot (your words not mine) from themselves.

Do what you think is right,he is your mate.

YellowDog
7th March 2009, 19:17
I have a friend who has been riding a 50cc scoot 4 about 3 years and he now wants to move up to a motorbike and wants me to help him find one as he has the mechanical prowess of a biscut. the thing is he is a complete idiot on his scooter and the other day i sw him pull up at my house in jandals shorts a tee shirt and his helmet unclipped... i asked him about the helmet and said he couldnt be bothered doing it up. (its one of the new clippy ones)

i mean yea it would be cool to have a friend who rides too but damn hes a freakin idiot sumtimes.

should i help him find something? maybe i could but i could take him gear shopping first for gloves jacket and a new helmet? or maybe i should let him crash his scoot and get scarred up and wised up? then help him
I would say don't help him.

It is a hell of a responsibility to take on and when he gets minced on the road, it will all be your fault.

puddy
7th March 2009, 20:15
Not to start a war or anything, but if encouraged one of my mates to step up to a bigger bike when he was just asking for a hospital, i'd feel guilty as fuck if he got wasted.
Don't feel bad. If he's that thick, he doesn't deserve to be in the pool.:oi-grr:

tigertim20
7th March 2009, 22:12
to poster #1
Dude, it seems to me that you are one of those rare genuine friends who really cares about his mates. I would say to him that you think he needs to wise up a bit if he wants a bike, but youll help him, and tell him that you think he needs to budget for some safety gear as well as a bike. Then ask him to go do a riding skills course, cos even you (and me) can always do with a brush up, no matter how awesome we think we are!!!!!
Good on you for giving a shit dude, hes lucky to have you as a mate.