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Mom
8th March 2009, 15:10
You have to hand it to Kerre Woodham, perhaps one of the best lines I have read in ages here;

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/best-of-political-analysis/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502734&objectid=10560508

These gang members are leeches. Look at the fragrant Victoria Stevens - the mother who barked at her Mongrel Mob son in court as a gesture of support as he faced a murder charge. What a huckery old moll she is. I should thank her, though. The image of her being led away by cops with her guts hanging out over her plus-sized jeans has prompted me to set the alarm 15 minutes early and do three sets of 50 abdominal crunches before breakfast.
Her son is a gang associate up on a murder charge and she's a long-term invalid beneficiary. Apparently she has weak bones, arthritis and emotional problems. How in God's name do these people add to the sum total of human intelligence and goodness? They don't and while the law may be fatally flawed and ultimately useless, can't we at least try to make life difficult for the gangs?


I could not agree more with the last line.

MIXONE
8th March 2009, 15:39
She put me off my food and that takes a lot!

Blackshear
8th March 2009, 15:46
So, why does the whole human rights thing exist ONLY to slow down the economy?

Meanie
8th March 2009, 16:00
Someone not scared to tell it how it is
If our government hadnt have given in to these leeches and went so bloody pc about everything we would have less of them around and wouldnt have to support them through our taxes

Mom
8th March 2009, 16:22
They jailed the huckery old moll for a week for barking in the court FFS!

Pussy
8th March 2009, 16:27
+1 to Kerre! :niceone:

FJRider
8th March 2009, 16:30
For so many of similar "elk"... who claim not to recognise the New Zealand goverment, as having any authority over them... still "recognise WINZ... funny that <_<

FJRider
8th March 2009, 16:33
They jailed the huckery old moll for a week for barking in the court FFS!

I wonder if her benefit gets docked a week too...

Mom
8th March 2009, 16:34
I wonder if her benefit gets docked a week too...

You would want to hope so, did you read the list of illnesses she has? What a fucken joke.

yungatart
8th March 2009, 16:36
You would want to hope so, did you read the list of illnesses she has? What a fucken joke.

Nothing that a 9mm haemorrhage wouldn't fix :innocent:

birdhandler
8th March 2009, 16:38
I wonder if her benefit gets docked a week too...


yes it does one of the few double whammies out there

rainman
8th March 2009, 16:38
So, why does the whole human rights thing exist ONLY to slow down the economy?

Um, because money's not the sole measure of value?

JMemonic
8th March 2009, 17:14
Nothing that a 9mm haemorrhage wouldn't fix :innocent:

Bugger that 9mm ammo costs far to much, ever seen those things they use in the dog pound, actually there is one in the movie no country for old men, a gas operated bolt thing, charge up the air pull the trigger and a bolt shoots out, it retracts for the next shot, much cheaper. Hell it would save the country money in the long run to even pay for the funeral (pyre).

FJRider
8th March 2009, 18:12
You would want to hope so, did you read the list of illnesses she has? What a fucken joke.

They forgot fat and lazy...

peasea
8th March 2009, 20:11
You have to hand it to Kerre Woodham, perhaps one of the best lines I have read in ages here;

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/best-of-political-analysis/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502734&objectid=10560508

These gang members are leeches. Look at the fragrant Victoria Stevens - the mother who barked at her Mongrel Mob son in court as a gesture of support as he faced a murder charge. What a huckery old moll she is. I should thank her, though. The image of her being led away by cops with her guts hanging out over her plus-sized jeans has prompted me to set the alarm 15 minutes early and do three sets of 50 abdominal crunches before breakfast.
Her son is a gang associate up on a murder charge and she's a long-term invalid beneficiary. Apparently she has weak bones, arthritis and emotional problems. How in God's name do these people add to the sum total of human intelligence and goodness? They don't and while the law may be fatally flawed and ultimately useless, can't we at least try to make life difficult for the gangs?


I could not agree more with the last line.

What constitutes a 'gang' patch? Mongrel Mob, most would say yes, Black Power, most would say yes, Hells Angels, some would say yes. HOG? Ulysses? Where's the line and who drew it?

Mom
8th March 2009, 20:13
What constitutes a 'gang' patch? Mongrel Mob, most would say yes, Black Power, most would say yes, Hells Angels, some would say yes. HOG? Ulysses? Where's the line and who drew it?

In this instance we are talking mongrel mob mate, the coughing mother gave that away, even if her son did not. No lines that I am calling here. This is about a mother that coughs a gang call in court supporting her son while he is facing a murder charge...:crazy:

peasea
8th March 2009, 20:22
In this instance we are talking mongrel mob mate, the coughing mother gave that away, even if her son did not. No lines that I am calling here. This is about a mother that coughs a gang call in court supporting her son while he is facing a murder charge...:crazy:

Don't get me wrong, I'd support banning the MM altogether and many see a patch of any sort and think 'gang' but it's not that simple. Some M/C's are 'gangs' and others are not. How about the Nelson Classic and Vintage M/c, so far removed from gang culture it's not funny but still an M/C.

By all means, ban the MM patch, the whole group, ban patches, it makes odds to me, I don't wear one. I doubt it'll change anything though. At least when you see a MM patch you KNOW trouble's coming, without it I think they'd be even more of a worry; you won't see them coming.

Big Dave
8th March 2009, 20:23
Where's the line

In the the laws and statutes of this fair nation.


and who drew it?

Parliament.

peasea
8th March 2009, 20:28
In the the laws and statutes of this fair nation.



Parliament.

If that's the case how come we need fresh laws?

Big Dave
8th March 2009, 20:34
If that's the case how come we need fresh laws?


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peasea
9th March 2009, 05:58
Oh look, BD found a video clip of kb in action......

davereid
9th March 2009, 07:11
What constitutes a 'gang' patch? Mongrel Mob, most would say yes, Black Power, most would say yes, Hells Angels, some would say yes. HOG? Ulysses? Where's the line and who drew it?

There are a couple of things the G'mint, regardless of its colour like to do.

The first is, when government notices that the general population are (correctly) forming the opinion that the government is a self-serving collection of snouts, rorting a public feeding trough, it will defend itself with confusion.

Instead of dealing with the problem, it will cheerfully distract us with promises of a new way of voting, or counting the votes, or distrbuting them after they are counted.

This distraction works very well, normally giving government 20 years of "snouting at will" before it has to be addressed again.

"GANGS" and "DRUGS" is from the same school of distraction.

The problem is actually criminal behaviour, and the governments inability to deal with the lowest groups in society.

You can't fine a poor man as he has no money, or only money you gave him or he stole. You can't give him community service as he just won't show up, he will wait for a new fine instead. Eventually, at great cost and limited value you have to lock him up.

Avoiding this difficult and expensive option involves lots of blather and distraction. And as criminal people need to interact with other criminal people, frequently they will form recognisable groups.

So we don't need to deal with the criiminal anymore. We can divert attention to the "gang" and their "drugs".

portokiwi
9th March 2009, 08:05
:niceone: Kerre Woodham won me $1100 on celeb wheel of fortune way back in 87... Still using the wallet that came with it too.:niceone:
She is cool stright to the point.

Winston001
9th March 2009, 09:37
There are a couple of things the G'mint, regardless of its colour like to do.

The first is, when government notices that the general population are (correctly) forming the opinion that the government is a self-serving collection of snouts, rorting a public feeding trough, it will defend itself with confusion.

Instead of dealing with the problem, it will cheerfully distract us with promises of a new way of voting, or counting the votes, or distrbuting them after they are counted.

This distraction works very well, normally giving government 20 years of "snouting at will" before it has to be addressed again.

"GANGS" and "DRUGS" is from the same school of distraction.

The problem is actually criminal behaviour, and the governments inability to deal with the lowest groups in society.

You can't fine a poor man as he has no money, or only money you gave him or he stole. You can't give him community service as he just won't show up, he will wait for a new fine instead. Eventually, at great cost and limited value you have to lock him up.

Avoiding this difficult and expensive option involves lots of blather and distraction. And as criminal people need to interact with other criminal people, frequently they will form recognisable groups.

So we don't need to deal with the criiminal anymore. We can divert attention to the "gang" and their "drugs".

Nice post, there is a lot of truth in what you say.

I'm not sure that blaming any government is helpful though. Governments simply represent the people and are unweildy organisations. The only way gangs are going to diminish is because young people no longer want to join them. That comes down to having family structures where they feel safe and are taught right from wrong.

Mr Merde
9th March 2009, 11:09
Nice post, there is a lot of truth in what you say.

.... Governments simply represent the people .....................

and are unweildy organisations. .

Firstly they only represent the people at election time when they are sucking up to you for your vote. The rest of the time they RULE the people.

Unweildy is a gross underestimate of the problem.

NighthawkNZ
9th March 2009, 11:22
What a huckery old moll she is.

Kerre Woodham is yes...

want-a-harley
9th March 2009, 14:13
At least when you see a MM patch you KNOW trouble's coming, without it I think they'd be even more of a worry; you won't see them coming.

I have passed by a gas station before and went to the next one cos a patched member was getting gas, glad to know he's there so I can avoid him. Otherwise might've made eye contact and got c*nted cos thats all it takes with those animals.