WOFs, braided brake lines and re-usable components?

[Eddieb]

After some advice of clarification from those in the know please.

The R80G/S got knocked back on it's WOF test on saturday due to it's front braided line. It's had this line on it since I've owned the bike so I've got 3 WOF's with it, and the previous owner got many with it also.

The line has all the appropriate markings and as far as I can tell is crimped or attached to the threaded end by some sort of permanent method, though I'm not an expert on this.

It doesn't look like crimped factory lines on other bikes I've seen, but I've had the line off to re-route it and couldn't see any method of un-doing the hose from the threaded end.

If I put a pic up can anybody advise whether I have been rejected fairly or whether there may be cause to doubt and seek a 2nd opinion?
I did go round some of the local bike shops and the replacement lines they had for sale did not look significantly different to whats fitted, and the WOF guy couldn't adequately(sp) explain to me why it didn't comply, beyond re-usable components being involved.

[3umph]

I'd go back and ask exactly what rule number in his WOF Rule book it was thrown out on...

if he can not produce what one then tell him he has to give you a WOF

WOF Inspectors can not make rules to suit them as they feel on the day

[Deano]

The line has all the appropriate markings and as far as I can tell is crimped or attached to the threaded end by some sort of permanent method, though I'm not an expert on this.

It doesn't look like crimped factory lines on other bikes I've seen, but I've had the line off to re-route it and couldn't see any method of un-doing the hose from the threaded end.



I'm assuming it's not a bike shop that knocked you back ?

I went through this with a bike I used to have. I had to provide the braided lines' DOT laboratory certificates, which I obtained from the lines supplier.

JJ1407 or similar was the code on the lines.

Apparently the WOF manual was 'dumbed down' some years ago which has added confusion and some testers will knock anything that is not OEM back.

[Karl@Alpha]

If it has the numbers it is ok, sounds like the aftermarket ones we get in from Euro Bike.
I have been down this road when I passed a bike with them on while doing my test as a WoF inspector.
It has to have the numbers, it must be crimped to the hose...
The crimped end on most of the aftermarket then screws into the banjo fitting and this is where some inspectors get it wrong as it says "cant have fittings that can be undone with hand tools"
It should say "cant have fittings to the hose that can be undone with hand tools"
But they would still get it wrong...
Ether take it back and tell him to show you in the V.I.M. (inspectors bible) why it fails...
Or take it to a bike shop...

[AllanB]

Somewhere at home I have a sheet of paper verifying the stainless lines I purchased a few years for a bike I've now sold. They are the ones available from NZ sellers that you build up with screw in banjo fittings, the actual line is crimped into a threaded bit. You then locktite the banjo fitting on.

As above, the line must have the correct numbers.

[98tls]

Bought these from the same bike shop that does my wofs fwiw.

[vfxdog]

Just a note to mention an issue with braided hoses in the UK with respect to their equivalent of the WOF (MOT)- there are quite a few types of hoses around with anodised fittings that are crimped to the hose- the Brits found that corrosion was starting between the fittings and the braid and was actually cracking the fitting- I had this happen to me on the rear line of an RC30, and I lost that brake. I guess it's an aluminium/stainless steel galvanic corrosion thing.
There's some basis for caution with certain of these hoses, although it sounds like the OP got someone on a bad day.