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daniely
9th March 2009, 18:30
Hey guys (and girls). Was looking around all sorts of websites then came across KB and decided to join up.

(At this point most of you probably stop reading but anyway... ;) )

I'm starting uni this year and just last December had the idea of getting a bike. Can take the bus lanes (I think?), no parking cost, stuff all fuel costs and so much more convenient than biking everywhere.

So I started looking. And (as you do) I started watching videos of fireblades racing around the isle of man tt circuit and Hayabus wheelies and all other such things on youtube (there's an awful lot too see!!!).

Then I seriously approached buying a bike. But those beautiful Ninja 250R's were a little out of the price range. Especially considering I had never ridden a motorbike before.

After a little bit more looking and when my parents finally accepted I wasn't going to give up on the idea, my stepfather (who has been riding since he was 9) suggested I have a go on his Gas Gas (Spanish Trials Bike). He absolutely loves all of his trials bikes (all 9 of them) from his old BSA to the latest 65kg world champ replica... but my mother is a little annoyed that her car wont fit in the garage!

Now it being a 300cc single you'd think that wouldn't be too bad. But the low gearing and highly responsive throttle (both a requirement for this kind of bike) made it a bit too hot for me to handle. And did I mention it doesn't have a seat? To get an idea of what it is, here's a photo of one (http://www.lewisportusa.com/Images/gasgas/08raga.jpg).

So anyway, after heading out to the school field he sort of strolled along side while holding the handlebars as I awkwardly tried to balance on the footpegs. Then he slowly let me go and all would have been fine had I not panicked. It was in second gear at the time (I had started in that, it will start in anything up to 4th), and basically some hidden instinct told me to jerk my right wrist back and open the throttle as wide as I could. NOT A GOOD IDEA! In the low-end these things have about as much pickup as a litre bike! So, as is inevitible with a highly responsive and low geared 65kg trials bike... I flipped it! :Oops: that was a bit of an ouch!

He quickly rushed over and made sure I was OK then we decided to call it a day, which I was definitely glad of. But undetered two weeks later I did a little Sunday course (rcsom.co.nz - highly recommended) on a GN125 (just a LITTLE more docile ;) ). Was dumping the clutch half the time but got the feel of that in the end and got my basic handling certificate the same afternoon!

The following Wednesday we went out and picked a real nice GN250 up (only a little more than 100km (nope, not 100,000) on the clock. I've been riding that around the park quite often (haven't been told off by the Auckland City Council yet!) and hopefully not being to noisy (the park's right next ot a rest home ;) !).

After doing a bit of basic maintenance myself, that he convinced me was necessary even on such a new bike (we were a little dissapointed when we realidsed they were manafactured in China), likeregreasing the front and rear axles and bearings and such, he rode it a little more before deciding it wasn't 100% perfect.

So back to the workshop, a little bit of fiddling with the pilot screw and another go. Feels 100% better now he decides, but another couple of days in the park later and it's back to the workshop. We end up stripping the whole carb, cleaning it out and shifiting the clip on the main needle down a notch for a little more flow. Seemes to be going a bit better now! But still not 100% so, you guessed it, back to the workshop. So we try a stronger spring on the secondary diaphragm (it has some realy spaz system which for some reason involves a diaphragm about the size of a dollar coin to work along with the main one), which suprisingly gives it quite a bit more pull. But we loose all the low end, which isn't much fun.

So after all this, with the bike being in bits more than it's been together, we check the small manual that came with the bike and have a look in the carb section. Now that was really a laugh. All it said was:

The carburetor is factory set for the best carburetion. Do not attempt to alter it's setting. There are two items of adjustment, however, under your care: idle speed and throttle cable play.
Now I'm no mechanic but that sounds like an absolute load of nonsense to me. Carbs a meant to be fiddled with!

With the bike still in bits we were seriously considering ditching the carb for something a bit more decent. And that's where we're at at the moment. It's down in the garage but I hope that changes by the end of the week, ready for some more riding!

So, hope to be on the road with all the rest of you soon... but am still working towards passing my stepfather's stringent approval, which is fair enough considering the number of tragic accidents you hear about.

Think that's all for now, gratz if you read the whole thing, dunno why I wrote all that.... Anyway, bye for now I guess, and hope to be out and about in the next week or two!

98tls
9th March 2009, 18:33
Welcome and an awsome first post good on ya.

Squiggles
9th March 2009, 18:56
Still riding on the stock chin shit tyres? Better off spending money there than on "performance" mods

cheshirecat
9th March 2009, 18:57
Welcome and an awsome first post good on ya.

Ditto - when's the next installment

klingon
9th March 2009, 19:14
That was a fun first post - you're off to a great start! And good on stepdad for helping you get sorted!

You won't go far wrong on a GN as your first bike (Chinese or not). Just keep any corrosion at bay and keep it running well and you'll end up selling it for not much less than you paid for it.

daniely
9th March 2009, 19:56
That was a fun first post - you're off to a great start! And good on stepdad for helping you get sorted!

You won't go far wrong on a GN as your first bike (Chinese or not). Just keep any corrosion at bay and keep it running well and you'll end up selling it for not much less than you paid for it.

Thanks, will keep a towel and some Brasso handy in the garage to make sure the future trademe photos look good! ;) are you still on the TU250? I had a look at a couple too but ended up with the GN mainly because of availabilty, would be interested to know how they compare though.


Still riding on the stock chin shit tyres? Better off spending money there than on "performance" mods

Yer been thinking 'bout that, those tyres do look a bit naff. The rear one looks like it's off a car! But hoping not to spend too much on a first bike, would only chuck a new carb in if we got a lucky deal, found one in the garage that we're measuring up, looks like it's only about a couple of years old so must come from somewhere - stepdad's got at least a couple of bikes in boxes! But yer, definitely thinkin about the tyres, have to see if anything comes up. Really need a bit more on-road experience now, but who knows, may end up changing them after the first time out in the wet!


Ditto - when's the next installment

Welcome and an awsome first post good on ya.

Thanks to all of you. What more can I say? :) Hope to right more, I guess the next quantum leap would be the next bike, hmmm... don't think I'd get that until my full, I guess >250cc you get more bike for your money, but who knows, need to develop a proven track record (or road record, whatever, you know what I mean !!! :) ) on this one first.

In a couple of weeks I might even have to post a before and after, hopefully only of the bike!!! Or better still not at all! Getting confident and hope to avoid the injuries by riding safely (bet they all say that). Anyway will write again soon, have a few questions too so we'll see....

98tls
9th March 2009, 19:59
Enjoy it and take it easy,sounds like your stepdads a good bugger.Fwiw i learnt to ride on a Honda TL250 trials bike when i was a 9 year old,many many moons ago.

tigertim20
9th March 2009, 20:10
lucky you got a stepdad to help you and, and sounds like you're learning to do the maintenance too, bloody good start, learn how it works and how to fix it. look forward to the next installment!!

daniely
9th March 2009, 20:13
Enjoy it and take it easy,sounds like your stepdads a good bugger.
Yer, love him to bits as much as the bike!

98tls
9th March 2009, 20:18
Yer, love him to bits as much as the bike! Good on ya,i learnt to ride on a TL250 trials bike back when a 9 year old,great way to learn and when things went bad it didnt usually hurt to much though i can remember it lying on top of me at one stage,when i got up i had nice cooling fin burns just up from the knee.:doh:

Slyer
9th March 2009, 20:25
Join the uni bike club!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=84

mujambee
9th March 2009, 20:53
The carburetor is factory set for the best carburetion. Do not attempt to alter it's setting. There are two items of adjustment, however, under your care: idle speed and throttle cable play.
Now I'm no mechanic but that sounds like an absolute load of nonsense to me. Carbs a meant to be fiddled with!


Nope. Strict enviromental regulations on half the world have led to this. My '93 GSXF also has sealed carburetors.


P.S.: Nice to see you have GasGas' over there ;)

Burtha
10th March 2009, 08:39
good start & welcome.

My first experience wasn't quite so exciting but was a old farmbike and I throttled it too at the last minute and rammed it upright between two windbreaker trees. Thought I was going to be in the shits for busting the bike but when I turned around I just saw my cousin rolling on the track laughing his arse off!
:lol:

This is how I park all my bikes now .... (not)

coffeejunkie
10th March 2009, 09:27
Welcome to KB and loved the post, Your stepdad is an :innocent:, Always nice to have a helping hand when your starting out,

Keep riding and stay safe:wari:

The Pastor
10th March 2009, 09:32
ditch the stock handle bars too, they are bad

pritch
10th March 2009, 09:35
Nice first post.

Don't get hooked on fiddling with carbs, chances are you''ll never see another one. Circumstances, and Euro emissions laws, have consigned them to the dustbin of history.

And if you get a new bike, don't let step dad anywhere near it with a screwdriver or spanner...

Trudes
10th March 2009, 09:40
Hi, welcome to KB and your new obsession...bikes!!!!:scooter:
The Ginny is a great beginner's bike, and it's awesome you're learning where all the bits that make it go BRRRRMMMMM are and what they do, half the fun is stuffing about with the moving parts!
Hope you get yourself out on the road soon, deserted carparks are great for learning basic and slow speed handling ie U-turns, emergency braking, slow speed manouvering, so go and practice. Get yourself some good gear too, skin looks best on your body not on the pavement ;)
Good luck, ride safe and have fun with your Ginny!!:sunny:

Jaxi
10th March 2009, 09:47
good start & welcome.

My first experience wasn't quite so exciting but was a old farmbike and I throttled it too at the last minute and rammed it upright between two windbreaker trees. Thought I was going to be in the shits for busting the bike but when I turned around I just saw my cousin rolling on the track laughing his arse off!
:lol:

This is how I park all my bikes now .... (not)

Sounds familiar.... I wonder how many on this site can relate to your first experience Burtha...

The trials bikes sounds like fun daniely .... loved that you tube video of Dougie Lampkin riding through Goodwood House...

Burtha
10th March 2009, 09:52
Sounds familiar.... I wonder how many on this site can relate to your first experience Burtha...

Yes, probably quite a few.

klingon
10th March 2009, 12:45
... are you still on the TU250? I had a look at a couple too but ended up with the GN mainly because of availabilty, would be interested to know how they compare though...

Nothing to compare really - they're the same bike! Well, the same bike apart from a few minor differences, mostly in the styling. I do prefer my curves to the ginny's straight lines, but the Volty is a bit rarer so you usually end up paying more.

I recently replaced my Volty's engine with a GN one after I had a little mishap with the Volty's... and it had only done 50,000 km! They don't make them like they used to! :confused: Anyway everything just swapped right over. I now have a Chinese engine in my Japanese bike, so I hope they manage to communicate ok.

daniely
10th March 2009, 14:46
I do prefer my curves to the ginny's straight lines,

If I knew you better I'd insert a cheeky comment like "so do I". :Oops: too late! :) Anyway, the swap sounds interesting, knew they were more or less the same but didn't realise they were that compatible! Maybe just the frame etc.. will last longer than the engine? who knows! ;)


Sounds familiar.... I wonder how many on this site can relate to your first experience Burtha...

The trials bikes sounds like fun daniely .... loved that you tube video of Dougie Lampkin riding through Goodwood House...

Yer, hadn't seen that one, awesome entertainment. for the benefit of others:

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Thanks Jaxi!


Join the uni bike club!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=84
Did that today! The Gixxers at the stand looked a little intimidating, but signed up anyway!


Nope. Strict enviromental regulations on half the world have led to this. My '93 GSXF also has sealed carburetors.
P.S.: Nice to see you have GasGas' over there ;)
Not as many as in Spain I guess! He imports them over for kiwi riders from the GasGas factory, and loves his Raga replica!


ditch the stock handle bars too, they are bad
Yer been feeling that, raked back quite a bit. We loosened them up and rotated them forward a bit, but still not a complete solution. Might either get a new set as you say or heat them up (gas torch & furnace at his school workshop (engineering teacher) - lucky us!). Will see, that's another thing on the list.

I probably look like a bit of an idiot replying all the time but hey, anything to get the post count up!
Thanks to all the rest of ya too. Will take it round the school carpark when it's back together.
Shame I was only just getting into this whole carb business.... I've missed out all these years!
Anyway thanks again, feel very welcome now!

klingon
10th March 2009, 14:58
OMG I hadn't seen that video either! All those cream-coloured carpets and priceless artworks! :eek5: Oh the humanity! :wacko:

Funny thing is after seeing him going through there and thinking "I wouldn't let him in my house on that thing!" I suddenly realised that my brother probably does a lot more damage trying to get his wheelchair around a place like that than this guy on his bike. Not that I've ever seen my Bro go up a ladder in his wheelchair...

Hanne
10th March 2009, 18:53
Hi Daniel, nice to meet you today!
I know a garage that sounds just like your stepdads.... (think Squiggles is DOWN to bike #9 after selling 2... :rolleyes:)
See you round uni, and hopefully out on the roads too in not too long

-Hanne

Slyer
10th March 2009, 19:43
Coming to the next Friday Night Chiller? :D