Vehicle licencing fees to rise by nearly a quarter [Archive]

CookMySock

10th March 2009, 14:47

Blackshear

10th March 2009, 14:51

peasea

10th March 2009, 15:05

That really fucks me off (7 regos to pay!) but PLEASE read ALL of that article. They are right - ACC needs an overhaul, and it looks like the present government is none too happy about the way things have been done.

Hopefully they get it right this time.

Steve

"7 regos" ?? Bugger! We have four and that's bad enough. The whole system is a ripoff coz you can only drive one vehicle at a time. Those with more than one vehicle are unfairly penalised and successive governments have latched onto this money grab with glee.

If they had compulsory insurance on the drivers' license (renewable annually, just like the rego) then you could drive what takes your fancy, have numerous vehicles and chop and change when you feel like it. Also, as the years go by and you have no accidents, reduce the premiums. But that's too fair, too simple.

Why is it that safe drivers pay the same ACC levies as complete wankers who crash all the time? Do away with the crock system and start afresh with a comprehensive, compulsory insurance system. No insurance, no license, no license no vehicle. Crush the fucker. People will soon get the message.

puddytat

10th March 2009, 15:27

Hopefully they get it right this time.

Steve

Hahahahaaaaa.....yeah right!!! They'll privatise it & it'll just get more expensive for us,but cheaper for the Govt.:oi-grr:

Fuck 'em,the bikes going on eternal hold now,& I'll just race it!! Safer than the road & I'll still be covered by ACC :whistle:

Dooly

10th March 2009, 15:35

Fuck would you believe 2 of my bikes and the horsefloat fall due on the same day..........odds of that eh.........:no::mellow:

peasea

10th March 2009, 16:40

Fuck would you believe 2 of my bikes and the horsefloat fall due on the same day..........odds of that eh.........:no::mellow:

Whose fault is that?

We had a couple fall in the same month so just gave one vehicle ninety days then it spreads things out. However, it's always one thing after another isn't it? If it's not rego stickers it's WOFs, house insurance, contents, power bill, bourbon stocks, it never fuckn ends.

scumdog

10th March 2009, 16:45

Well us plods need a pay-rise and the Govt can't exactly pluck the extra dosh out of its arse can they.:girlfight:

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(walks off muttering about the potential 9 regos to pay for....:pinch:.)

ManDownUnder

10th March 2009, 16:47

Well us plods need a pay-rise and the Govt can't exactly pluck the extra dosh out of its arse can they.:girlfight:

... so they drag it screaming out of mine...???

... oh ... yay...

Marmoot

10th March 2009, 16:51

That really fucks me off (7 regos to pay!) but PLEASE read ALL of that article. They are right - ACC needs an overhaul, and it looks like the present government is none too happy about the way things have been done.

Hopefully they get it right this time.

Steve

Amazing to know that we are actually still being screwed by a regime that is no longer in power, eh?

When Labour was campaigning for their last term, I didn't remember a Scorched Earth policy was in the election promises.

Fucken amazing...

slofox

10th March 2009, 16:53

If it's not rego stickers it's WOFs,...

...which require you to spend $800 on new tyres before they are issued.....:angry2:
Pity I can't lug ten dozen wines on the bike....perchance I need a trailer for it...

peasea

10th March 2009, 16:56

Well us plods need a pay-rise and the Govt can't exactly pluck the extra dosh out of its arse can they.:girlfight:

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(walks off muttering about the potential 9 regos to pay for....:pinch:.)

Why not? They talk out of it....

FJRider

10th March 2009, 16:59

... so they drag it screaming out of mine...???

... oh ... yay...

I'd rather they drag it out of YOURS ...than mine... :innocent:

peasea

10th March 2009, 17:00

...which require you to spend $800 on new tyres before they are issued.....:angry2:
Pity I can't lug ten dozen wines on the bike....perchance I need a trailer for it...

Yup and tyres have just gone up with a bump, ay what? Just stripped the girls' Sporty tyres and have to scuff off a wee bit of surface rust before the newbies go on, but the rear 150/80/16 Metzler was $333 and the 21 for the snout was another $258. Rego on that is due in April, as is the WOF and Mainland roads sure chew the rubber up.

It's a conspiracy I tell you.

At this rate I'm going to have to dig out my syphon hose and stay out late.

James Deuce

10th March 2009, 17:02

Whose fault is that?

We had a couple fall in the same month so just gave one vehicle ninety days then it spreads things out. However, it's always one thing after another isn't it? If it's not rego stickers it's WOFs, house insurance, contents, power bill, bourbon stocks, it never fuckn ends.

Yup.

I need petrol to go back up so I can justify two bikes.

The ACC bill on rego is getting close to what we should be paying though, given what motorcycle related injuries cost ACC.

We should try and stop falling off, on road and off, just for a year or so.

AllanB

10th March 2009, 17:10

I'm happy to pay anything at the moment - the last few rides I've been out on I had to stop and check that I was not wearing a target pinned to my leathers.

Some rides are better than others!

peasea

10th March 2009, 17:12

Yup.

I need petrol to go back up so I can justify two bikes.

The ACC bill on rego is getting close to what we should be paying though, given what motorcycle related injuries cost ACC.

We should try and stop falling off, on road and off, just for a year or so.

I've managed to keep the oily side down since about 1986, touch wood. That's why I'd support a downward-sliding scale for those who don't cost the nation money. Careful driving/riding should result in lower levies, but it probably won't.

My lady and I put more than we need to into a 'slush fund' every pay. It's bloody handy when it builds up, I can tell you.

peasea

10th March 2009, 17:13

I'm happy to pay anything at the moment - the last few rides I've been out on I had to stop and check that I was not wearing a target pinned to my leathers.

Some rides are better than others!

Are you suffering the slings and arrows of outrageuos fortune?

CookMySock

10th March 2009, 20:22

Why is it that safe drivers pay the same ACC levies as complete wankers who crash all the time? Do away with the crock system and start afresh with a comprehensive, compulsory insurance system. No insurance, no license, no license no vehicle. Crush the fucker. People will soon get the message.I have been against compulsory insurance, but what you have said sounds good.

They'll privatise it & it'll just get more expensive for us,but cheaper for the Govt.:oi-grr:Naw it is supposed to be audited properly. No finger in the pie from the govt. (Laughter dies down..)

the last few rides I've been out on I had to stop and check that I was not wearing a target pinned to my leathers.Wheres my cluestick.. Get (whack!) a brighter (whack) headlight.. (whack!).. :bleh:

Steve

peasea

11th March 2009, 05:58

Did you see 'Cops with cameras' the other night? Some broad was pulled over and found to have no insurance. Cops towed the car, gave her 14 days to get insurance and she didn't. One flat car! Good fuckin job. The least you can do is get third party....

portokiwi

11th March 2009, 06:01

Life goes on.........

Beemer

11th March 2009, 09:25

That really fucks me off (7 regos to pay!)...

I don't know about being a dangerous bastard but you're a lucky one - if we had all our vehicles registered at any one time, we'd have 10 to pay for! Only one is a dedicated trail bike and some are on exemption as they are only used at certain times of the year, but we currently have four cars and seven bikes! Take a minute to think how much that hurts!

The Pastor

11th March 2009, 10:16

"7 regos" ?? Bugger! We have four and that's bad enough. The whole system is a ripoff coz you can only drive one vehicle at a time. Those with more than one vehicle are unfairly penalised and successive governments have latched onto this money grab with glee.

If they had compulsory insurance on the drivers' license (renewable annually, just like the rego) then you could drive what takes your fancy, have numerous vehicles and chop and change when you feel like it. Also, as the years go by and you have no accidents, reduce the premiums. But that's too fair, too simple.

Why is it that safe drivers pay the same ACC levies as complete wankers who crash all the time? Do away with the crock system and start afresh with a comprehensive, compulsory insurance system. No insurance, no license, no license no vehicle. Crush the fucker. People will soon get the message.
you will end up paying alot more under a compulsary insurance scheme.

The Pastor

11th March 2009, 10:20

it should be one standard acc levie per drivers licence, regardless of whether you drive or not. and like a $10 or $20 fee pervechile after that.

But thats common sence aye

awayatc

11th March 2009, 10:57

2 bikes and 3 cars.....
AND only home less then half the year.....
and can only ride/drive one at the time...

and even then I fail to spot camera donation extorters...
Taxi may be cheaper...

Mr Merde

11th March 2009, 11:35

Just a thought here.

Slightly off topic so please dont blast me.

If the govenment privatises ACC or parts thereof, as they seem to have intimated they are thinking about.

Then we will have a situation where we the public will be forced to support a private company by Acts of Parliament.

Is this legal? I would love to be in that company's situation.

SPman

11th March 2009, 13:23

My flatmate had 8 cars - he somehow managed to get a dealers license and a dealers plate - reckoned it was far cheaper - had 2 cars that had never been rego'ed in NZ but he had been driving for some years......

Is this legal? I would love to be in that company's situation.
Part of the move to privatise profit, and socialise debt........

peasea

11th March 2009, 14:01

you will end up paying alot more under a compulsary insurance scheme.

But at least everyone will be insured. Supposedly.

Swoop

11th March 2009, 14:06

I guess this helps the police quotas. More potential customers out there who choose not to pay rego fees.

The Pastor

11th March 2009, 14:06

But at least everyone will be insured. Supposedly.
not so, what happens if somones wof or rego expired a day before teh accident. or the other party was drunk. his insurance would be null and void - resulting back to what we have now - but you're paying more money.

basicly compulsary insurace has NO extra benifits for alot more cost.

Finn

11th March 2009, 14:09

Yet again we find ourselves paying for Labour's incompetence.

awayatc

11th March 2009, 14:10

Trouble with compulsory insurance may be a sharp price hike.....
Seems to do that overseas.....

Very cheap vehicle insurance here in NZ,
Very very cheap compared to Europe....
Cheaper to take full cover here then it is to take third party only over there.
So If it matters to you just take full cover here and all problems are solved.....

Indiana_Jones

11th March 2009, 14:16

ACC needs competition.

People should have a choice. I don't wanna fund people who just don't wanna get back into work with my rego and gas tax.

-Indy

peasea

11th March 2009, 14:17

not so, what happens if somones wof or rego expired a day before teh accident. or the other party was drunk. his insurance would be null and void - resulting back to what we have now - but you're paying more money.

basicly compulsary insurace has NO extra benifits for alot more cost.

If you don't know the date your WOF, Rego or anything else expires you're a knob and shouldn't be on the freakin' road anyway.

If, and I say IF, the compulsory insurance operators rewarded safe drivers through no a claims bonus arrangement then I doubt things would be too horrendous. The trouble is; insurance companies are greedy so theory and practice are two different things.

Indiana_Jones

11th March 2009, 14:24

Also my old man would save about $3000 a year if he didn't have to use ACC

-Indy

The Pastor

11th March 2009, 14:44

If you don't know the date your WOF, Rego or anything else expires you're a knob and shouldn't be on the freakin' road anyway.

If, and I say IF, the compulsory insurance operators rewarded safe drivers through no a claims bonus arrangement then I doubt things would be too horrendous. The trouble is; insurance companies are greedy so theory and practice are two different things.

Also my old man would save about $3000 a year if he didn't have to use ACC

-Indy

you tell me ONE country, just one that has it cheaper that ACC. go on. i dare ya.

peasea

11th March 2009, 14:48

ACC needs competition.

People should have a choice. I don't wanna fund people who just don't wanna get back into work with my rego and gas tax.

-Indy

Quite right. I wouldn't suggest for a minute that any ONE company should handle any compulsory insurance scheme, but if it were compulsory to have a minimum level of cover (like 3rd party for motor vehicles, a basic levy for a game of rugby, ski weekend or whatever) then those who don't play sport don't have to pay and those who don't crash all the time should get reduced premiums.

Getting the insurance industry to nut out a basic scheme for drivers/riders etc just for the motoring part of it could be helpful. I'm a firm believer in giving realistic tax breaks to those who have their own personal health insurance and the same should apply to those who have their own vehicle insurance.

The whole thing is a giant fuckup.

peasea

11th March 2009, 14:49

you tell me ONE country, just one that has it cheaper that ACC. go on. i dare ya.

That's easy; Guatemala.

Indiana_Jones

11th March 2009, 14:53

Does ACC allow for elective surgery?

Finn

11th March 2009, 14:54

ACC needs competition.

People should have a choice. I don't wanna fund people who just don't wanna get back into work with my rego and gas tax.

-Indy

Yes, but not just quite yet. Let National sort out the incompetence first, get some efficiency out of ACC, then open it up for competition.

You gotta remember that competition is after all... insurance companies. Lets try and manage the benchmark first eh?