Almost crushed a toddler today

[carver]

it was late in the day and i was driving a truck around 9 tonnes, a 4 wheeler.
driving down this road, which is quite busy, i spotted a mum with 2 kids standing ready to cross.
about 5-10m away, doing about 40kph with the snake brake on, my foot is off the gas, the toddler decides to run as fast as he can across the road.
so, i have 9 tonnes to stop, the truck is unloaded, and my snake brake is on.

my co worker is screaming, stop, for fucks sake stop.

i dont even hear him.

i almost put the truck over the traffic island to avoid the kid, i gave him maybe 1.5 m more room.

i never touched the brakes.
i dont have alot of faith in this trucks brakes, and whats better, 9 tonnes of mass sliding uncontrolled, or 9 tonnes of direct-able mass?

i saw the kid on his knees about i foot from the rear tires as we passed him.
big dual tires on the rear, very easy to go under.

i laughed afterward, i saved the kids life, but should i have braked?

would i have been in the wrong?

[enigma51]

it was late in the day and i was driving a truck around 9 tonnes, a 4 wheeler.
driving down this road, which is quite busy, i spotted a mum with 2 kids standing ready to cross.
about 5-10m away, doing about 40kph with the snake brake on, my foot is off the gay, the toddler decides to run as fast as he can across the road.
so, i have 9 tonnes to stop, the truck is unloaded, and my snake brake is on.

my co worker is screaming, stop, for fucks sake stop.

i dont even hear him.

i almost put the truck over the traffic island to avoid the kid, i gave him maybe 1.5 m more room.

i never touched the brakes.
i dont have alot of faith in this trucks brakes, and whats better, 9 tonnes of mass sliding uncontrolled, or 9 tonnes of direct-able mass?

i saw the kid on his knees about i foot from the rear tires as we passed him.
big dual tires on the rear, very easy to go under.

i laughed afterward, i saved the kids life, but should i have braked?

would i have been in the wrong?

Should have gone over the little fucker

[Headbanger]

Can't imagine your man enough to drive a truck,has to be another pisstake.

Next time try something more believable, Like a thread about sewing or knitting.Something womanly.

[mister.koz]

I saw him riding that truck twice today :) wtf is a snake brake?

Well done on the dodge was it the sporty swerve i saw ya doing in the mornin? :clap:

[enigma51]

Can't imagine your man enough to drive a truck,has to be another pisstake.

Next time try something more believable, Like a thread about sewing or knitting.Something womanly.

He missed the little shit ...... womanly enough

[carver]

Should have gone over the little fucker

i would prefer not to.
i was going to do anything not to hit him.

his mum shoulda had his hand


Can't imagine your man enough to drive a truck,has to be another pisstake.

Next time try something more believable, Like a thread about sewing or knitting.Something womanly.

nothing hard about driving trucks, i bet my job makes you look like a girl!

[carver]

I saw him riding that truck twice today :) wtf is a snake brake?

Well done on the dodge was it the sporty swerve i saw ya doing in the mornin? :clap:

a snake brake is a flap in the exhaust the almost does nothing

i was trying to swerve to run you over!

[Gubb]

my foot is off the gay

You're NEVER off the "Gay".

[mister.koz]

a snake brake is a flap in the exhaust the almost does nothing

i was trying to swerve to run you over!

Oh of course, lucky the ninja's a bit more nimble than that truck then :laugh:

[Headbanger]

nothing hard about driving trucks, i bet my job makes you look like a girl!

I knock down buildings.

Probably the hardest fucker in the universe, Imagine He-man, But twice as manly, and riding a 2 headed beast from hell that shoots flames from its eyes.

And hard hat, can't forget the hard hat.

[carver]

You're NEVER off the "Gay".

wait till i show you a good time


Oh of course, lucky the ninja's a bit more nimble than that truck then :laugh:

ninja = parked at lights

ninja+truck at lights= crushed ninja!


I knock down buildings.

Probably the hardest fucker in the universe, Imagine He-man, But twice as manly, and riding a 2 headed beast from hell that shoots flames from its eyes.

And hard hat, can't forget the hard hat.

sounds like one of the village people

[mister.koz]

That dude sounds nearly as hard as chuck norris..

[Hitcher]

would i have been in the wrong?

Yes. You don't get baby oil from babies. Sheesh.

[Number One]

As a mother who has had the terrifying experience of a very determined toddler breaking away from her clutches near a busy road I commend you for managing to avoid a tragedy.

Bet everyone needed to scrape their daks out after that.

Well done MR Carver sir. Hopefully that little person will never run out on the road ever again!!!

Maybe mum will even invest in some reigns after that episode....

[fireliv]

Glad to hear it was an ALMOST. Hope the mum/kid learn a lesson.

[Hitcher]

Maybe mum will even invest in some reigns after that episode....

Ho ho ho! It never reigns in Southern California, it pores, man it paws...

[Number One]

Ho ho ho! It never reigns in Southern California, it pores, man it paws...
Blardy NighOH peedants :rolleyes: :bleh: :lol:

[James Deuce]

Maybe mum will even invest in some reigns after that episode....

Nah, she'd get abused by do-gooders and social workers.

[Number One]

Nah, she'd get abused by do-gooders and social workers.
I remember I had them as a wee kid...had a whole bloody harness thing too...no one batted an eye at them and there were a lot of kids sporting them at the time.

Me I was just pissed I couldn't get away from mum :lol:

[James Deuce]

Me I was just pissed I couldn't get away from mum :lol:

You and me both.

[MsKABC]

I remember I had them as a wee kid...had a whole bloody harness thing too...no one batted an eye at them and there were a lot of kids sporting them at the time.

Me I was just pissed I couldn't get away from mum :lol:


There is a more socially acceptable form of them - they are cute little animal-themed back packs with reins attached. There seems to be a bit of a move back to them now - people are starting to care more about their kids safety and less about what do-gooders think. :niceone:

[Number One]

Do gooders can bite my big brown bahookey as far as I am concerned. I find myself hardly even flinching when I get 'those looks' when out and about these days - fuck em! They aren't raising my boy I am. Though I don't have to have nee for a harness anymore he is well aware of the 'stay with mummy' rule and he is still small enough to be well afraid that I will sit on him if he doesn't comply...when he gets too big for that I will threaten to kiss and hug him in public instead :lol:

[MsKABC]

when he gets too big for that I will threaten to kiss and hug him in public instead :lol:

:rofl: I'm kissing and cuddling my wee boy as much as possible now, coz I know that in a few years it will be: "Awwww Mum! Don't! Yuck!"

[skidMark]

Yes. You don't get baby oil from babies. Sheesh.


BWAHAHAHA

Doesnt the baby oil come out when they are born? :baby::lol:

[Brett]

it was late in the day and i was driving a truck around 9 tonnes, a 4 wheeler.
driving down this road, which is quite busy, i spotted a mum with 2 kids standing ready to cross.
about 5-10m away, doing about 40kph with the snake brake on, my foot is off the gas, the toddler decides to run as fast as he can across the road.
so, i have 9 tonnes to stop, the truck is unloaded, and my snake brake is on.

my co worker is screaming, stop, for fucks sake stop.

i dont even hear him.

i almost put the truck over the traffic island to avoid the kid, i gave him maybe 1.5 m more room.

i never touched the brakes.
i dont have alot of faith in this trucks brakes, and whats better, 9 tonnes of mass sliding uncontrolled, or 9 tonnes of direct-able mass?

i saw the kid on his knees about i foot from the rear tires as we passed him.
big dual tires on the rear, very easy to go under.

i laughed afterward, i saved the kids life, but should i have braked?

would i have been in the wrong?

You avoided the kid, you did the job right. If you had hit him, then ask the what if's. Who knows what might have happened if you had breaked? I am guessing iin this instance you acted the most appropriately, as you mentioned, 9 tonnes does not slow very well, pure physics.

[MyGSXF]

Do gooders can bite my big brown bahookey as far as I am concerned. I find myself hardly even flinching when I get 'those looks' when out and about these days - fuck em! They aren't raising my boy I am.

Damn right chick!! :stoogie:

I had an elasticated wrist strap for my youngest when eva we went out.. (I felt a bit like I was walking a dog.. :pinch:) but he woulda been mincemeat 100 times over without it!! :confused: sorta kid that nuthin slows him down.. :no: (I must dig it out from where ever it's hiding.. he still needs it sometimes... <_< ) He's been described as "the Energizer bunny on speed" :crazy:

I neva "got" physics at school.. but it sounds like you did something right today carver.. :niceone:

[idb]

I knock down buildings.

Probably the hardest fucker in the universe, Imagine He-man, But twice as manly, and riding a 2 headed beast from hell that shoots flames from its eyes.

And hard hat, can't forget the hard hat.

Fluoro vest?

[XxKiTtiExX]

Kids can run reasonably fast when you least expect it.. It is why they make those cute little teddy bear looking backpacks for the kids to wear which then has a leash attached to it..

I remember a lady used to come into my work and she had all 3 of her little boys attached to this little backpack with a leash each.. People turned their nose up at her for apparently treating her kids like "dogs."

Tell you what I'd rather have my kid attached to a leash than squished under someones car tyres..

[carver]

You avoided the kid, you did the job right. If you had hit him, then ask the what if's. Who knows what might have happened if you had breaked? I am guessing iin this instance you acted the most appropriately, as you mentioned, 9 tonnes does not slow very well, pure physics.

see the truck stops ok~ unloaded, but loaded its a different story.
i bleed the water trap daily so there is minimal moisture in the pneumatic lines that operate the brakes.

loaded it would take maybe twice as long to stop, which is too far with something that requires instinct

[Stickchick]

Congrats on avoiding the kid Carver. My sisters friend ran over her own 18 month old boy the other week due to her not seeing the kid in front of her 4WD and killed him so it's nice hear there was a happy ending for this one.

[wbks]

see the truck stops ok~ unloaded, but loaded its a different story.
i bleed the water trap daily so there is minimal moisture in the pneumatic lines that operate the brakes.

loaded it would take maybe twice as long to stop, which is too far with something that requires instinctNot long ago I asked you how you would feel if you ran over a kid, and you said they would deserve it for being on the road you travel on, and now you swerve to avoid one... Are you going soft or something? lol

[Blossom]

Well done Carver. Its not an easy choice to make in a nano second.
We live on a dead end street with 2 trucks and a lot of mostly unsupervised toddlers. It never ceases to amaze me that none of them have been hit yet.
I personally have nearly taken out 3 or 4 kids on bike who went screaming past the gate as I am backing out or the ever popular ride straight onto the road on your skateboard into the path of an oncoming car.
The sick thing is, if you actually slow down and tell them to get off the road the dear little angels often tell you to get farked or some such.
And driving down the street slowly just seems to indicate to them that they have right of way.

[trustme]

Unless it was pissing with rain I think I would brake,imagine if you hit the kid ,
Plod 'Did you see the kid'
Carver 'yup'
Plod 'Did you brake , where are your brake marks'
Carver 'I didn't brake.'

Judge ' You saw the child & made no effort to brake' ,as he picks up the law
book & makes ready to throw it at you

I'm not saying you are wrong as I was not there, just suggesting how it might play out

[The Stranger]

Unless it was pissing with rain I think I would brake,imagine if you hit the kid ,
Plod 'Did you see the kid'
Carver 'yup'
Plod 'Did you brake , where are your brake marks'
Carver 'I didn't brake.'

Judge ' You saw the child & made no effort to brake' ,as he picks up the law
book & makes ready to throw it at you



Ah, every problem is solved by braking. A true cage driver.

[davebullet]

Your instincts served you well. The kid will get a shock and he / she will forget. Mum however has learned to tighten handgrip on said determined toddler.

I know when my kids were young, one of them was a runaway. I'd nearly break his little hand gripping it at lights.

It also amazes me how close to the kerb many people stand with children.

[The Stranger]

sounds like one of the village people

You're a true masochist headbanger.

You do realise Carver he's getting sexual pleasure from being dominated, abused and publicly humiliated by you don't you?
You should be charging him Carver.

[Headbanger]

I wouldn't be surprised if caver envisions just about everybody as something resembling the Village people.

[CookMySock]

I think you did the right thing. If you are that concerned about your load moving you should probably secure it better.

Yeah brake anyway. It would be different if you stamped on the anchors and locked everything up, but I think you are well past such a thing. If anything, a stomp on the noisy airbrakes and a BLARRRRRRP on the horn scares littlies back to the footpath just nicely - similar to dropping your rowdy bike back a couple of gears.

Did u give the dumb-bitch mother the learn? Fuck I would have done a U turn up the kerbs and gone right back and given her the fucken word. No doubt it still would have been "your" fault anyway..

edit: Parents, dont hold the kids' HAND. Hold their WRIST - its much easier to get a solid grip on.

Steve

[Number One]

Did u give the dumb-bitch mother the learn? Fuck I would have done a U turn up the kerbs and gone right back and given her the fucken word.

edit: Parents, dont hold the kids' HAND. Hold their WRIST - its much easier to get a solid grip on.

OI YOU - settle down!

Would you have given me the learn when SullyOne wrestled clear of me and Sully to run straight out the front door of the local swimming pool onto the road? I can tell you ya would've got the learn back Mr - not all women whose kids get away on them are 'dumb-bitch mothers' sometimes it takes more than two hands to keep a determined kid under control...hence the idea of the lead still being available and in use.

[MsKABC]

OI YOU - settle down!

Would you have given me the learn when SullyOne wrestled clear of me and Sully to run straight out the front door of the local swimming pool onto the road? I can tell you ya would've got the learn back Mr - not all women whose kids get away on them are 'dumb-bitch mothers' sometimes it takes more than two hands to keep a determined kid under control...hence the idea of the lead still being available and in use.


You must spread some reputation around..... :yes:

[trustme]

Ah, every problem is solved by braking. A true cage driver.

A cage driver , a motorcyclist & a driver of heavy vehicles up to 44 tonne, experienced in overweight & overdimension loads over a 30 year period,

Carver may well have done the right thing , but the police & courts do not have any interest in the right thing, only in convictios.
Common sense is no longer a defense which shows how cycical I have become.So much of what we do is no longer about common sense or the right thing but about covering your arse & that has absolutely nothing to do with being a cage driver.

[driftn]

Should have done a stoppie got the cab half an inch away from his/her head then flicked the wipers on and used them to slap said kid in the face.

That would be true moron few c@#t crew antics.

[Headbanger]

A cage driver , a motorcyclist & a driver of heavy vehicles up to 44 tonne, experienced in overweight & overdimension loads over a 30 year period,

Carver may well have done the right thing , but the police & courts do not have any interest in the right thing, only in convictios.
Common sense is no longer a defense which shows how cycical I have become.So much of what we do is no longer about common sense or the right thing but about covering your arse & that has absolutely nothing to do with being a cage driver.

And that is how the system works, Someone gets killed, Someone has to pay.

And when taking evasive action its only a tiny chance whatever you decide to do will work,Who knows what that kid would have done?

Hell, I've hit the horn at them and they have stopped and stared at the grill, Fuck me, Now what?

Well, Brake,swerve and try not to crush whatever you have now swerved at...Hope its not a car full with kids.


I have no idea if Carver done the right thing, Mainly due to the fact he posts so much shit this maybe complete fantasy to get attention, however taken on face value the kid was at fault, and he didn't get squashed so whatever was done worked and must have been right enough to save the day.

[trustme]

I don't have much faith in the system as you can tell.

[Headbanger]

I was agreeing with your stance.

We have had some shocking outcomes from the "system".

And I have had police stand up and blatantly lie about situations I was part of in order for the system to function....

Fuckin crazy.

[The Stranger]

A cage driver , a motorcyclist & a driver of heavy vehicles up to 44 tonne, experienced in overweight & overdimension loads over a 30 year period,



Ah yes, with all that experience you must be right.

Everyone hit the brakes every time, our resident authority on driving has decreed this is the appropriate action.

[trustme]

I think you need new glasses because that is not what I said at all.

You seem to exemplify your first quote

[The Stranger]

I think you need new glasses because that is not what I said at all.

You seem to exemplify your first quote

No, I realise only too well you were only intent on covering your arse.

This is of course weaseling and tends to bring out the cynic in me. Have the strength of your convictions and be prepared to defend them if necessary.
Be a man!

[sinfull]

i have 9 tonnes to stop, the truck is unloaded, and my snake brake is on.


Prolly a shitty old drum brake canter or something was it ?
Snake brake lol first time i've heard it called that hissssssssssssss !
You doing your 2L are ya ?

40 kph , unloaded, if it was dry i would've stomped on the picks probably, but hey i wasn't there, was your call !

[Badjelly]

see the truck stops ok~ unloaded, but loaded its a different story. i bleed the water trap daily so there is minimal moisture in the pneumatic lines that operate the brakes.

loaded it would take maybe twice as long to stop, which is too far with something that requires instinct

Out of curiosity, what do you think the stopping distance of the truck would be from, say, 50 km/h? Loaded and unloaded. (Bearing in mind that the stopping distance for a vehicle decelerating from 50 km/h at 1 g is 9.84 m, which is about what most cars & bikes would actually do on a dry road. But Skidmark can stop in 2 m.)

And what is this "snake brake" you speak of? An engine brake?

[mister.koz]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the stopping distance of the truck would be from, say, 50 km/h? Loaded and unloaded. (Bearing in mind that the stopping distance for a vehicle decelerating from 50 km/h at 1 g is 9.84 m, which is about what most cars & bikes would actually do on a dry road. But Skidmark can stop in 2 m.)

And what is this "snake brake" you speak of? An engine brake?

Skidmark does have amazing stopping power.

[Radar]

That dude sounds nearly as hard as chuck norris..

Headbanger is the :stoogie: meanest mf in wHanganui. Keeps his Harley inside on the carpet and makes his woman polish it daily. He posted a pic of his bad ass tat on another forum and half the members unsubscribed. :killingme Yeah and he really does bash the shiite out of buildings.

[roy.nz]

No braking would of made you uncontrolable, you didi the right thing...... Well done mate....:apint:

[roy.nz]

Headbanger is the :stoogie: meanest mf in wHanganui. Keeps his Harley inside on the carpet and makes his woman polish it daily. He posted a pic of his bad ass tat on another forum and half the members unsubscribed. :killingme Yeah and he really does bash the shiite out of buildings.

You spelt wanganui WRONG sorry.....

[jim.cox]

i never touched the brakes.

i laughed afterward, i saved the kids life, but should i have braked?

would i have been in the wrong?

You done good

The outcome could not have been better

Rather than torturing yourself over what might have been

Just thank yourself for having such good skills.

[trustme]

No, I realise only too well you were only intent on covering your arse.

This is of course weaseling and tends to bring out the cynic in me. Have the strength of your convictions and be prepared to defend them if necessary.
Be a man!

What a load of garbage.

[Radar]

You spelt wanganui WRONG sorry.....

I know I know. Just trying to get a rise out of Headbanger.

And to me its Mt Egmont and Mt Cook !

[Headbanger]

I know I know. Just trying to get a rise out of Headbanger.

And to me its Mt Egmont and Mt Cook !

I'm busy hiding from Our Lord Chuck Norris, I'm thinking his greatness may have seen what I wrote and is about to kick over my house and then give me the punch of 1000 bearded fists. Little known fact is he scissor kicked the H out of Wanganui.

in the meantime I'm drafting a submission to get the H put into Masterton.....and maybe a u.

Mhasterton?
Muhsterton?

[Radar]

in the meantime I'm drafting a submission to get the H put into Masterton.....and maybe a u.

Mhasterton?
Muhsterton?


:eek: I'll then move to Oz!
For some stupid reason I can put up with the likes of Mooloolaba, Coonabarabran, Woolongong, etc....

[firefighter]

i never touched the brakes.
i dont have alot of faith in this trucks brakes, and whats better, 9 tonnes of mass sliding uncontrolled, or 9 tonnes of direct-able mass?

i saw the kid on his knees about i foot from the rear tires as we passed him.
big dual tires on the rear, very easy to go under.

i laughed afterward, i saved the kids life, but should i have braked?

YES, YOU SHOULD HAVE BRAKED, YOU SHOULD HAVE COVERED THE BRAKE AS SOON AS YOU SPOTTED SAID MA AND TODDLER, BASIC LICENCE SHIT THERE.......you didn't save the kids life, that was luck, you get taught (well I did) to control the hazards, don't wait until your locking it up and praying it turns out well with the typical swerve right thing (which is human reaction-to turn the same way as the hazard is moving)

Seriously...., you should have been ready for that shit as soon as you saw it, maybe you needa scan a bit further?

[SPman]

Who knows what might have happened if you had breaked?

Indeed - disassembled the vehicle into constituent molecules which swarmed around the kid and reassembled on the other side, leaving the little shit intact, perhaps.....

[carver]

Not long ago I asked you how you would feel if you ran over a kid, and you said they would deserve it for being on the road you travel on, and now you swerve to avoid one... Are you going soft or something? lol

of course i would try avoid him!


Ah, every problem is solved by braking. A true cage driver.

im not much of a 'slam on the brakes guy'


Should have done a stoppie got the cab half an inch away from his/her head then flicked the wipers on and used them to slap said kid in the face.

That would be true moron few c@#t crew antics.

haha, that would have been great, but the truck would have fallen to bits by the landing!


i have 9 tonnes to stop, the truck is unloaded, and my snake brake is on.


Prolly a shitty old drum brake canter or something was it ?
Snake brake lol first time i've heard it called that hissssssssssssss !
You doing your 2L are ya ?

40 kph , unloaded, if it was dry i would've stomped on the picks probably, but hey i wasn't there, was your call !

just a 2 man.
worse, its a nissan PK!
loaded it stops alot worse, hence my distrust of the brakes!



Out of curiosity, what do you think the stopping distance of the truck would be from, say, 50 km/h? Loaded and unloaded. (Bearing in mind that the stopping distance for a vehicle decelerating from 50 km/h at 1 g is 9.84 m, which is about what most cars & bikes would actually do on a dry road. But Skidmark can stop in 2 m.)

And what is this "snake brake" you speak of? An engine brake?

its just a retarder that works by blocking off the exhaust, its no engine brake!

i did not think it would stop in time


No braking would of made you uncontrolable, you didi the right thing...... Well done mate....:apint:

i know that once the brakes are locked, the steering is useless, so why not use the steering first?
not alot of time left for braking, but i got the truck away from the kid


YES, YOU SHOULD HAVE BRAKED, YOU SHOULD HAVE COVERED THE BRAKE AS SOON AS YOU SPOTTED SAID MA AND TODDLER, BASIC LICENCE SHIT THERE.......you didn't save the kids life, that was luck, you get taught (well I did) to control the hazards, don't wait until your locking it up and praying it turns out well with the typical swerve right thing (which is human reaction-to turn the same way as the hazard is moving)

Seriously...., you should have been ready for that shit as soon as you saw it, maybe you needa scan a bit further?

i saw him, and my foot was quite possibly on the brakes, but i sub consciously did not choose to use em

[trustme]

If you made any of the comments in the previous post to a copper at the scene you would get done like a dinner
Of course you are not that dopey , but it is amazing how many that are.

In your original post you asked would have been in the wrong ,probably, because just about everything you have just posted would be used against you.

The last sentence would make it a slam dunk

[CookMySock]

OI YOU - settle down! Would you have given me the learn when SullyOne wrestled clear of me and Sully to run straight out the front door of the local swimming pool onto the road? I can tell you ya would've got the learn back Mr - not all women whose kids get away on them are 'dumb-bitch mothers' sometimes it takes more than two hands to keep a determined kid under control...hence the idea of the lead still being available and in use.Yes, er, I mean no Ma'am. Sorry Ma'am. :pinch:

I guess I meaning parents who stand back with not even any attempt at control. Scuse.

Um, the wrist thing works good on short notice tho.


For some stupid reason I can put up with the likes of Mooloolaba, Coonabarabran, Woolongong, etc....Woowatabigwun, Ooohilikethatalot, Mmmurabarbarian.


And what is this "snake brake" you speak of? An engine brake?Thats where he hangs his dick out the door and lets it get under the front wheel. I cant use this method coz I keep denting rims.

That reminds me, you know why elephants wear condoms on their feet dont you? Its coz they fuck everything they stand on.

Steve

[carver]

If you made any of the comments in the previous post to a copper at the scene you would get done like a dinner
Of course you are not that dopey , but it is amazing how many that are.

In your original post you asked would have been in the wrong ,probably, because just about everything you have just posted would be used against you.

The last sentence would make it a slam dunk

so perhaps i was, but in a split second ya gota make the call

[trustme]

so perhaps i was, but in a split second ya gota make the call


' So perhaps I was ' care to clarify a little

'Ya gota make a call ', sure thing , I don't say you are right or wrong,you made a decision that worked out OK which is great but if you hit the kid I don't think plod would see it that way.

They would take the approach :- did you take each & every, reasonable & practical means available to avoid snotting the kid. The answer in their eyes would be that you did not. They would prosecute & let the court decide. Just my opinion

[carver]

' So perhaps I was ' care to clarify a little

'Ya gota make a call ', sure thing , I don't say you are right or wrong,you made a decision that worked out OK which is great but if you hit the kid I don't think plod would see it that way.

They would take the approach :- did you take each & every, reasonable & practical means available to avoid snotting the kid. The answer in their eyes would be that you did not. They would prosecute & let the court decide. Just my opinion

i agree with your statement

[wbks]

Ofcourse this 5 page debate could have been avoided if you had just kept driving straight...

[Big Dave]

tsk, amateurs. If you were 'Chuck good' you would have swung the truck, balanced on half its wheels whilst using the passing wind to part the little darling's hair and wipe its snotty nose.

[Headbanger]

You may need to recreate the event for the next video instalment.

[carver]

Ofcourse this 5 page debate could have been avoided if you had just kept driving straight...

for sure, if i had hit the brakes without swerving that may have happened


tsk, amateurs. If you were 'Chuck good' you would have swung the truck, balanced on half its wheels whilst using the passing wind to part the little darling's hair and wipe its snotty nose.

might have had a go over the traffic island, would have lost the load though


You may need to recreate the event for the next video instalment.

might have to practice the truck stoppie.
the windscreen wipers slapping the person might be hard

[peasea]

would i have been in the wrong?


What colour was the kid?

[wbks]

for sure, if i had hit the brakes without swerving that may have happened
Well I was tending towards taking no action at all but hey, you seem more sensible than I would have thought:zzzz:

[carver]

What colour was the kid?

white i believe.
i do not discriminate with who i run over


Well I was tending towards taking no action at all but hey, you seem more sensible than I would have thought:zzzz:

in a work truck, ya got to