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Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 18:48
Just had the KTM Hard wired for the GPS, while I was there I got the 12V Marine plug put in for the Ipod too...
The GPS is on all the time, wired to the battery, saves the time searching for the satellites. I got the plug for the Ipod, doubles as a radar detector etc...Never go that bloody fast anyway....lol
Trouble is, not much room for the plug as the bars turning take a lot of the room. I ended up cable tying it to the clutch cables. It looks a bit ugly but I will get used to it.
The GPS is tidy and tucks away under the saddle, waterproof fuse and looks good.
NOW, all I have to do is get lost! :stupid:

junkmanjoe
13th March 2009, 18:51
HI any chance you could throw a couple pics up off your set up.
cheers.

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 18:59
HI any chance you could throw a couple pics up off your set up.
cheers.

It ended up being wired to the horn, still live but only key active.
The rest went under the saddle, the 12V went to the horn, the GPS went straight to the battery, works all the time. This is best due to the time needed for Aquiring the satellites...
It has been covered in the plastic ducting, looks good. I have a 3 amp fuse for the GPS and the Ipod has a 2 amp in the charger, it will only be used for the times when it gets low and needs a boost. I guess it can charge the whatever if needed...?

They did a good job, only thing is, I was tempted to drill a hole and mount the 12V on the dash, but it wasn't needed, I can take it with me when I sell it...HA!!, not bloody likely! :doh:

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 19:03
HI any chance you could throw a couple pics up off your set up.
cheers.


Give me five.....:clap:

pampa
13th March 2009, 19:45
Aye it doesn't count without pictures ...:dodge:



Give me five.....:clap:

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 19:56
Aye it doesn't count without pictures ...:dodge:

You guys are so impatient......
Pity you aren't so impatient when there is water and a jump and a blind corner....:Oops: Let the KTM go first...lol :Oops::argh::woohoo:

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 20:00
HI any chance you could throw a couple pics up off your set up.
cheers.

They will be there soon. I wasn't too pleased with the 12V set-up but after figuring out the turning radius of the bars, the places to put it, the feet position, The best place was next to the clutch cable. It is out of the way, moves with the bars and is in easy reach.
Down by the feet on the frame, it was going to get knocked, as it stands there is a 4 inch protrusion of the chrager I forgot about, therfore it needs to be lower than I thought....
It works good, so that is the main thing!

junkmanjoe
13th March 2009, 20:04
heres hopeing you made it....across the water jump,
do you need arm floatys.... so you dont sink....

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 20:11
It is pretty cool! :jerry:

junkmanjoe
13th March 2009, 20:16
Nice job.
them GPS units, are they ok in all weather.
reason is im looking in to setting something up my self.

thanks for your time.:niceone:

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 20:24
Nice job.
them GPS units, are they ok in all weather.
:niceone:


Yep, waterproof, the main thing is vibration...I might cable tie it on at the strap, thing is if you fall off, you tend to forget everything, just get up and make sure bike is okay, ride off and then a few hours later you realise you have no GPS.....
I have fallen, lost something but in my haste and embarrassment got up fast and ridden off into the sunset only to forget I have left the helmet or the bike...lol :doh: Know what I mean of course right? :stupid:

junkmanjoe
13th March 2009, 20:29
ummm could be old age kicking in.
has it a scroll screen, would dick smith carry this model.
have you the model code, or make plz

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 20:42
ummm could be old age kicking in.
has it a scroll screen, would dick smith carry this model.
have you the model code, or make plz

Best place is Gun City Christchurch. Best price...
Get the free maps off the Internet, get the Gary topo maps.
It is cheaper than than the 60 other, has everything bar the altimeter, barometer or something....
I got this as the boys over the USA on ADV raved etc etc....It is good!

cooneyr
13th March 2009, 20:42
...I might cable tie it on at the strap...

Idea for you. Get a peice of plate alloy, make the appropriate size hole in it to mount the plug and also make a hold the side of one of the handle bar clamp bolts and shape it as necessary. Take out one bar clamp bolt and put the plate in like a washer on top of the clamp. I've had my heated grips switch and my GPS mounted like this for a while now (switch on RHS bolt and GPS on LHS bolt). Best if you can put it in front of the bars though cause then you are more likely to keep your nads in a off and there tends to be more room.


ummm could be old age kicking in.
has it a scroll screen, would dick smith carry this model.
have you the model code, or make plz

The Garmin GPSMap 60Cx above and below the screen are a bit of a give away :bleh: This is a good model. Dickers don't tend to carry them as the are the more advanced models. Dickers are pretty noobish when it comes to GPS and only carry the most basic models that are uber easy to use. Hunting places and map places tend to have a more complete range. They will automatically keep the "you" marker in the middle of the screen so they scroll the map as you ride along. They also zoom in and out and will vary the amount of detail on the map as you zoom. Lots lots more features as well.

Cheers R

cooneyr
13th March 2009, 20:44
Best place is Gun City Christchurch. Best price...
Get the free maps off the Internet, get the Gary topo maps.
It is cheaper than than the 60 other, has everything bar the altimeter, barometer or something....
I got this as the boys over the USA on ADV raved etc etc....It is good!

Um you have a Cx which doesnt have the altimeter, barometer and electronic compass (the CSx has these). The Cx also has the better battery life of the two.

+1 for the free maps and Gary Turners topos. Now you just need to load up a whole heap of the routes from my web site or alternatively the map.

Cheers R

pampa
13th March 2009, 20:45
Nice stuff, isn't there any room to put the socket on the instrument panel (drilling a hole) just for tidyness and may also e easier to hide the cables.

BTW, I am still to learn how to jump, I practising wheeling (with very little success) tho.

Cheers,
Pampa

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 20:58
Nice stuff, isn't there any room to put the socket on the instrument panel (drilling a hole) just for tidyness and may also e easier to hide the cables.
Cheers,
Pampa

Two reasons I went for this option was...
1. drilling a hole was a bit keen, I didn't need to..
I may still when I get the guts to make a hole in the dash..I would be easy...
2. The cabling isn't bad. I can hide it but the thing is, if it is on the dash the charger is higher than the mount, therfore it can hit the bars when you turn.
You have to bear in mind the thing you are plugging in remember...
As in the case of the Ipod charger or similar it is 3 inches high and would hit the bars on left turn or right!
I pondered down by my leg for the plug too, although this wasn't good, I would hit it all the time with my leg and endanger the mount, might knock it off....

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 21:00
Um you have a Cx which doesnt have the altimeter, barometer and electronic compass (the CSx has these). The Cx also has the better battery life of the two.

+1 for the free maps and Gary Turners topos. Now you just need to load up a whole heap of the routes from my web site or alternatively the map.

Cheers R

I have these functions on my watch.....Didn't need them...

Waihou Thumper
13th March 2009, 21:22
Idea for you. Get a peice of plate alloy, make the appropriate size hole in it to mount the plug and also make a hold the side of one of the handle bar clamp bolts and shape it as necessary. Take out one bar clamp bolt and put the plate in like a washer on top of the clamp. I've had my heated grips switch and my GPS mounted like this for a while now (switch on RHS bolt and GPS on LHS bolt). Best if you can put it in front of the bars though cause then you are more likely to keep your nads in a off and there tends to be more room.




Cheers R

That sounds great. I need to see. Reading this, I am a bit bam-boozled....
At then end of the day I don't want to lose it. At the same time I want to take it off without it being stolen, so it needs to be easily removeable.

warewolf
13th March 2009, 23:40
The best place was next to the clutch cable. It is out of the way, moves with the bars and is in easy reach.Umm, personally I would be a little cautious about that set-up. It's tied to the front brake/speedo cables, which move A LOT as your front wheel moves through the 275mm of travel. Those cables also rub on the dash panel and the wire cable guard below it. Your cable ties may foul the dash if they go too low - top out the forks to remove the static sag to test this. You might be lucky, and the cabling will hold those two clear of the rub points

Ryan's suggestion is good. Or better still, buy the KTM roadbook holder which mounts to the dash's rubber anti-vibration mounts. What year is your bike? You've got the later style instruments, but not the power socket between them (where your little clock thingy is). It clears the bars etc with steering making no difference as it is in the centre of the bars. If you have to, put the socket there and move the clock to the side, where its neglible height won't foul the bars. The '05 has it's own power circuits for the power plug and the 2x road book devices, unused ex-factory, but it's all ready to plug in to in the connection frame under the dash.

Waihou Thumper
14th March 2009, 06:27
What year is your bike? You've got the later style instruments, but not the power socket between them (where your little clock thingy is).

I have a 2002 December.....The clock is actually just a battery one, no power there. It is stuck on with Velcro

Waihou Thumper
14th March 2009, 06:31
Umm, personally I would be a little cautious about that set-up. It's tied to the front brake/speedo cables, which move A LOT as your front wheel moves through the 275mm of travel. Those cables also rub on the dash panel and the wire cable guard below


Yes, they do move a lot, I have them sheathed in the conduit, might help there. I did try this out and they do not rub, but up and down over time may work loose. I will re-visit this.

CookMySock
14th March 2009, 07:17
The other place to put a small gps is velcroed and strapped on your sleeve. Yeah getting the wiring to it will be awkward, but maybe it just needs to charge for a little while and then unplug. Or else mount it to the bars on a stainless bracket that can be bent and bent back in case of an oops.

Gee you lot are having fun adventure riding - the next bike might have to a big single.

What do you use the GPS for? Or is it another little thing that just adds to the fun? (gotta have them!)

Cheers,
Steve

cooneyr
14th March 2009, 07:30
That sounds great. I need to see. Reading this, I am a bit bam-boozled....
At then end of the day I don't want to lose it. At the same time I want to take it off without it being stolen, so it needs to be easily removeable.

Hope these pics help. You can probably see from this I'm not into buying after market stuff that I can make myself even if it does look a little bodgy. The GPS mount has worked really well by the way. Never had a shut down and it has only come apart once during a rough 60kph off.

Seems I was a little confused about which bolt was used for which though.

Cheers R

Waihou Thumper
14th March 2009, 07:31
Gee you lot are having fun adventure riding - the next bike might have to a big single.

What do you use the GPS for? Or is it another little thing that just adds to the fun? (gotta have them!)

Cheers,
Steve

Hi Steve. The main thing is that the day before a ride or some time prior, I can sit and plan a route on the map at home. I use the computer, plan the route and see the distance etc. Then, next day look forward to going that way by using the GPS. I can explore new roads, tracks and use the GPS to guide me in all directions.
I can also use it to make a track. I can just ride and then plot the results at home for the next time, should I want to repeat the same ride.
I wasn't going to go down that track (pun intended) but at the end of the day it is better than a map, plus I don't have to stop and read it, I can see as I go....

cooneyr
14th March 2009, 07:37
....What do you use the GPS for? Or is it another little thing that just adds to the fun? (gotta have them!)....

My web site (see sig) is a good starting point. Plenty of route information you can load onto a GPS on there. I will do a major update some day soon I promise!

Cheers R

Waihou Thumper
14th March 2009, 07:59
Hope these pics help. You can probably see from this I'm not into buying after market stuff that I can make myself even if it does look a little bodgy. The GPS mount has worked really well by the way. Never had a shut down and it has only come apart once during a rough 60kph off.

Seems I was a little confused about which bolt was used for which though.

Cheers R

Looks good, clever aren't ya....
I can see that the 12V adaptor mounted in this fashion would work.

NordieBoy
14th March 2009, 08:02
Hope these pics help.

OMG! You should be ashamed of yourself!

Looks like something I would do.

NordieBoy
14th March 2009, 08:07
Gee you lot are having fun adventure riding - the next bike might have to a big single.

What do you use the GPS for? Or is it another little thing that just adds to the fun? (gotta have them!)

Main thing for me is I have no sense of direction and can't remember a track untill I've been over it a few times.
The GPS can also tell me if this interesting looking track joins up with any others.

If you're half an hour into a maze of forestry tracks it can be a godsend :D

XF650
14th March 2009, 08:40
Recently saw a guy in the Nevis with WR450 that had GPS unit mounted into a foam pad that was attached to bars cross brace. It was a horizontal type GPS. Wish now I had taken a pic.

NordieBoy
14th March 2009, 08:55
Recently saw a guy in the Nevis with WR450 that had GPS unit mounted into a foam pad that was attached to bars cross brace. It was a horizontal type GPS. Wish now I had taken a pic.

I was tempted to do that to a fatbar pad but the pads are far too big.

CookMySock
14th March 2009, 09:43
Hi Steve. The main thing is that the day before a ride or some time prior, I can sit and plan a route on the map at home. [lotsa cool stuff trimmed]Grumble, wish it was me. Hrm, yeah its definitly big single time.


My web site (see sig) is a good starting point. Plenty of route information you can load onto a GPS on there. I will do a major update some day soon I promise!Thats an AWESOME starting point. I zoomed into my area and there an NO maps near me. I guess I'll have to do something about that. I thought there would be a lot more maps loaded on it, and that people would be using it wholis bolis.

Update? Are you looking for suggestions or engineering support? You got all the map stuff going and that looks like the hard part. It struck me that the little paragraph of information is rather little - perhaps a link to some document that elaborates without spoiling the surprise? Also I read the 90mile beach description, and there are some things that 90-mile-beach-newbies should know before crackling off down there.

Full marks though, that's awesome. Now, big single.. sigh..

Steve

NordieBoy
14th March 2009, 13:04
Full marks though, that's awesome. Now, big single.. sigh..

I dunno...
A GT650 motor would be a good start point :D

CookMySock
14th March 2009, 17:27
A GT650 motor would be a good start point :DYou should ride one. They have a sick scream to them at full revs - would certainly make people step back out of the way.. Would be scary-beautiful through dense bush.

Steve

cooneyr
15th March 2009, 08:50
OMG! You should be ashamed of yourself!

Looks like something I would do.

Wait till you see the givi pannier racks. They started life as F650 GS racks and now look like Five Stars (German brand) XTZ750 racks albeit no where near as pretty. I'll put pics up later.


...Thats an AWESOME starting point. I zoomed into my area and there an NO maps near me. I guess I'll have to do something about that. I thought there would be a lot more maps loaded on it, and that people would be using it wholis bolis.

Update? Are you looking for suggestions or engineering support? You got all the map stuff going and that looks like the hard part. It struck me that the little paragraph of information is rather little - perhaps a link to some document that elaborates without spoiling the surprise? Also I read the 90mile beach description, and there are some things that 90-mile-beach-newbies should know before crackling off down there.

Full marks though, that's awesome. Now, big single.. sigh..

Steve

I hear you. When I kicked this off I was trying to get as many routes up as possible. I've still got plenty more routes but I'd also like to try and make a page/s that allows others to put up comments and small pictures. I'm definitely not a html/web person but learning by breaking and rebuilding others pages and had help from others who know much more about these things than me. Problem is finding the time these days!

Cheers R

junkmanjoe
15th March 2009, 11:11
went in to town to day to see whats on offer... GPS...
lucky my misses was there, to tell me off,...
(:angry2: your not bloody buying that thing for your bike )

bugger....... should have left her at home....
mmmm touch screen, full maps,, waterprof....:drool:
only the price of a set of new tires....

paturoa
15th March 2009, 16:46
Yep, waterproof..

Hey Mark, what about upside down in a large poll of seawater?

Looks like a good set up though.

I've got a bluetooth GPS which I use with my PDA/Phone but it isn't waterproof so I put it in my tank bag. The down side is that it is battery driven and I only get about 6 hours out of the PDA with the back light on.

So I'm currently working out a 5v regulated power supply to both the GPS and the phone, but the plug options are limited.

What sot of plug is yours and where did u get it?

Waihou Thumper
15th March 2009, 18:05
Hey Mark, what about upside down in a large poll of seawater?

Looks like a good set up though.



It is waterproof. I went round Waikaremoana today. I did 860Km. Managed to get stumped by the GPS? :Oi:

I worked out a route the night before, the roads went through and when I got there it said no exit. I am thinking that it goes through private land and really does have access but....

I had a good day, bit stuffed. Working in Dairy has its advantages. I was up at 0430 ready to go.....

The plug will need a re-visit. It worked loose at both ends, the cable ties vibrated loose and overall it was a botch up...
I am thinking of putting it under the saddle, the cable can come out of the side and into my pocket ot something. I only need it in emergencies anyway.
The GPS worked well. Buttons are a big factor, when it is bloody cold, you have to take your gloves off. The morning was freezing through Murapara and in the shady bits of the bush through to Minginui...
I have to dress for autumn. It pissed down at Waikaremoana...All the way to Frasertown.

Waihou Thumper
16th March 2009, 14:11
What sot of plug is yours and where did u get it?


I got the plug for the Garmin 60cx and the 12V one too just in case....
I got it all wired now properly!
Mind you, nothing would have survived the dipping I had up at Kai Iwi....
:stupid:My fault entirely and an expensive lesson learnt!