What cost to the taxpayer?

[peasea]

Last Friday night (March 13) there was a huge, and I mean huge, road block on SH6 just north of Nelson at Hira. Ok, WOF checks, breath tests and so on don't bother me but surely one or two squad cars could handle that. I didn't have my camera that evening but we can recall about 7 or 8 squad cars there, an unmarked one at the top of the hill and another squad car just on the downward leg on the northern side. They also took my photograph for whatever reason. It was clearly a sting pointed at visiting bikers who'd come to Nelson for the poker run on the Saturday, this was denied by the officer that checked my details. Liar.

Then came the poker run the next day. The assembly point was host to several squad cars and a few unmarked cars. The route was dotted with patrol cars and several unmarked cars. At Tapawera there was a police photographer, unmarked and marked cars etc. They also used video cameras throughout the day. At one intersection (not far from the Riwaka Hotel) they had positioned cameras about 100m up the road to photograph those who did not come to a complete halt at the stop sign. Fortunately I saw the rider in front do a double take, both his feet hit the ground and I followed suit.

Then came the prize; a major operation on the Appleby Highway that saw hoards of bikers pulled over for WOF and Rego checks with breath tests thrown in for good measure.

I don't have a problem with these operations pre se but I did think that the taxpayers money was being wasted here with the scale of these operations. Do the police really think that at such an event anyone is likely to get turpsed-up? If you did that, and proceeded to knock someone off their bike, the law would be the least of your worries.

When I stopped to reverse the situation and take pics of the coppers I got the twenty questions routine; "what do you think you're doing" etc. Had my machine checked out, me checked out and so on. I also didn't get any straight answers to my questions; double standards.

It was over the top, as per fucking usual.

[jrandom]

Looks like it's just the Highway Patrol involved.

Since they wouldn't otherwise be doing anything useful anyhow, seems like a good idea to me to concentrate them all in one obvious spot, sitting on their bums and not burning gas or rubber.

[peasea]

Looks like it's just the Highway Patrol involved.

Since they wouldn't otherwise be doing anything useful anyhow, seems like a good idea to me to concentrate them all in one obvious spot, sitting on their bums and not burning gas or rubber.


Good point, and it was the perfect opportunity to go racing around other routes. Tee hee. The photo only shows HP at Appleby but 'real' police were elsewhere throughout the day.

[MaxB]

I wonder if that guy who U-turned in the Buller Gorge was there?

[JimO]

he probably organised it

[peasea]

he probably organised it

Damn, would bling ya but I'm all done for now.
Crackup comment. Tony Bridgeman is his name, doing u-turns is his game.

[MotoGirl]

After my experience doing poker runs the breath testing seems justified to me. Taking photos is just harrassment.

We stopped doing these runs because it took all day to cover 200km because the ride between each pub was only 20 minutes but the riders would drink for an hour before moving on. By the end of the day so many riders were wasted and riding like lunatics on their harleys, which just ended in carnage.

I don't know if the Nelson area is as bad as this, but if they are, the Police aren't being unreasonable.

[puddytat]

Fuck had I know that they'd be busy down your way for the weekend I couldve taken the R6 out & thrashed the shit outta it up & down the Buller Gorge.....:woohoo::banana::motu:

[Kickaha]

Were they pulling cars over as well?

[spudchucka]

I wonder if that guy who U-turned in the Buller Gorge was there?

He quit, (as I recall), and was charged over that incident so it is pretty unlikely, unless he's since started riding himself, which also seems unlikely.

[Max Preload]

Were they pulling cars over as well?

I'd like to know this too. My cynical and experienced side says "unlikely".

[98tls]

Whilst the bill to the taxpayer may well have been large at least there's some return to the governments coffers not to mention the odd pissed biker off the road awhile,we live in a country that has suburbs full of people living on taxpayers money so the odd police roadblock bothers me little.

[peasea]

After my experience doing poker runs the breath testing seems justified to me. Taking photos is just harrassment.

We stopped doing these runs because it took all day to cover 200km because the ride between each pub was only 20 minutes but the riders would drink for an hour before moving on. By the end of the day so many riders were wasted and riding like lunatics on their harleys, which just ended in carnage.

I don't know if the Nelson area is as bad as this, but if they are, the Police aren't being unreasonable.

A dim view is taken (quite rightly) amongst the bikers I've met in the Nelson area with DIC.

Point taken about the pub to pub routine, but it's one of those 'choice' things; we drink Bundy ginger beer or maybe a pint or two of beer throughout the day. Food is always available etc so there's no excuse for DIC.

[Ixion]

I went past about 6pm on Saturday (going t'other way) . They were pulling bikes over, letting cars go through

Even Mrs Ixion though the discrimination unjustified. None of the ones I saw were going at any great speed (well, they *were* mostly Harleys :devil2:)

[peasea]

I'd like to know this too. My cynical and experienced side says "unlikely".

A local hot rodder who was there reckons he was flagged through amongst a group of bikers. I'll leave the rest up to your imagination.

[peasea]

He quit, (as I recall), and was charged over that incident so it is pretty unlikely, unless he's since started riding himself, which also seems unlikely.

Good job. He gave the lovely police/highway patrol folk a bad name.

If he's riding post his rego number so the world can keep an eye out!

[FROSTY]

Ill stand corrected here but as I understand it every time a new bunch of recruits gets out of porerua they get a couple of weeks on exactly this duty. blitz around the country focussing on DIC wof etc

[peasea]

Whilst the bill to the taxpayer may well have been large at least there's some return to the governments coffers not to mention the odd pissed biker off the road awhile,we live in a country that has suburbs full of people living on taxpayers money so the odd police roadblock bothers me little.


To date I have heard of nobody being DIC'd over the weekend. There may have been some but I've got a finger on the pulse and heard nothing.

I'm going to contact the po-lice tomorrow to see what their take on the operation is. I have no objection to removing drunks or unsafe bikes from the road.

Otherwise, OTT police operation folks.

[98tls]

A local hot rodder who was there reckons he was flagged through amongst a group of bikers. I'll leave the rest up to your imagination. Still cant see what the problem is,the cops target boy racers and no doubt wave Mr n Mrs through in the Hillman Hunter,so there targeting bikes,so what.If you look at it from there point of view as in a heap of bikes riding pub to pub etc its a no brainer really,if they didnt do it do you really think everyone on said bikes would behave as they should?

[peasea]

Still cant see what the problem is,the cops target boy racers and no doubt wave Mr n Mrs through in the Hillman Hunter,so there targeting bikes,so what.If you look at it from there point of view as in a heap of bikes riding pub to pub etc its a no brainer really,if they didnt do it do you really think everyone on said bikes would behave as they should?


Yeah, yeah, point taken. Actually a very good point.
As I've said elsewhere drunk bikers (or drunk anyone) should be removed from the road, I don't have any issue with that, but the operation was a very pointed attack. For the taxpayers dollar versus return I'd say a blitz outside a rugby club, golf club or RSA would have better retruns, especially in terms of DIC's.

[FJRider]

The HP were doing the "see and be SEEN" routine. Word of their presence would have spread fast. Those that would have driven pissed..... didn't. As such, their mission was successful.

For every Cop you see, there are more you didn't... If you assume otherwise, good luck.

[FJRider]

Yeah, yeah, point taken. Actually a very good point.
As I've said elsewhere drunk bikers (or drunk anyone) should be removed from the road, I don't have any issue with that, but the operation was a very pointed attack. For the taxpayers dollar versus return I'd say a blitz outside a rugby club, golf club or RSA would have better retruns, especially in terms of DIC's.

Why not outside a pub ???:whistle:

[98tls]

Yeah, yeah, point taken. Actually a very good point.
As I've said elsewhere drunk bikers (or drunk anyone) should be removed from the road, I don't have any issue with that, but the operation was a very pointed attack. For the taxpayers dollar versus return I'd say a blitz outside a rugby club, golf club or RSA would have better retruns, especially in terms of DIC's. Yep fair call,last weekend at the March Hare i sat around awhile with 4-5 others and shot the breeze whilst awaiting certain sobriety,big weekend had by many and we gave a few a wave goodbye that without doubt were over the limit by miles when they departed,i only had a 20 minute ride home but was very surprised to not see one cop on the road home,i stopped just out of Glenavy when i came across 2 bikes 3 people,one bike lying on its side,the 3 of them were still well pissed and the bike on its side was that way cause the guy didnt put the sidestand down when he stooped for a chuck.....go figure.

[Wingnut]

and the bike on its side was that way cause the guy didnt put the sidestand down when he stooped for a chuck.....go figure.

Such class. I have fuck all time for drink drivers - be it on a bike or in a car. All the same to me. Selfish faggots that will only care when its too late.

[98tls]

Such class. I have fuck all time for drink drivers - be it on a bike or in a car. All the same to me. Selfish faggots that will only care when its too late. Well i gave them a bit of time to sober up anyway as whilst helping to pick up the bike i removed the key bid them goodbye and carried on home:rolleyes:No idea what became of them but no doubt there plight didnt interfere with anyone elses life,some reading of my actions may well find them annoying,i couldnt give a fuck,i did them a favour.

[peasea]

The HP were doing the "see and be SEEN" routine. Word of their presence would have spread fast. Those that would have driven pissed..... didn't. As such, their mission was successful.

For every Cop you see, there are more you didn't... If you assume otherwise, good luck.

Answer? Don't drive/ride pissed. Fair call.

However, there were more cops present than was required to get the job done. Or, perhaps it takes dozens of NZ coppers to do the job that cops from other nations take in their stride. (?)

[peasea]

Well i gave them a bit of time to sober up anyway as whilst helping to pick up the bike i removed the key bid them goodbye and carried on home:rolleyes:No idea what became of them but no doubt there plight didnt interfere with anyone elses life,some reading of my actions may well find them annoying,i couldnt give a fuck,i did them a favour.

And possibly others.

[zzzbang]

Such class. I have fuck all time for drink drivers - be it on a bike or in a car. All the same to me. Selfish faggots that will only care when its too late.

Will they care even then? only thing they care about is their punishment, then when that is paid off they go out and do it again and again till they end up killing themselves and others.

[zzzbang]

Well i gave them a bit of time to sober up anyway as whilst helping to pick up the bike i removed the key bid them goodbye and carried on home:rolleyes:No idea what became of them but no doubt there plight didnt interfere with anyone elses life,some reading of my actions may well find them annoying,i couldnt give a fuck,i did them a favour.

Dont know how the whole stealing their keys went down with the law... but well done. :Police:

[98tls]

Dont know how the whole stealing their keys went down with the law... but well done. :Police: No idea,never heard anything more.Upon arriving home i chucked the key in the wheelie bin when unpacking,the wheelie bin got picked up Friday so..............<_<

[zzzbang]

haha. well, thats what you get when your an idiot.

[spudchucka]

However, there were more cops present than was required to get the job done.

That's not really for you to judge, no one comes to your work and tells you how to sweep up!

[peasea]

That's not really for you to judge

Perhaps not, I just don't like seeing public money being wasted.

[spudchucka]

Perhaps not, I just don't like seeing public money being wasted.

If their presence caused some people on the roads that day to ride or drive more appropriately they may well have saved the country millions through having prevented a crash that could have cost mega bucks in rehab and ACC.

An ounce of prevention is worth a gallon of cure.

[Max Preload]

If their presence caused some people on the roads that day to ride or drive more appropriately they may well have saved the country millions through having prevented a crash that could have cost mega bucks in rehab and ACC.

An ounce of prevention is worth a gallon of cure.

Following that philosophy to it's logical conclusion the use of unmarked cars for traffic duties should cease immediately.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Following that philosophy to it's logical conclusion the use of unmarked cars for traffic duties should cease immediately.

That is a traffic safety initiative I can support.

[spudchucka]

Following that philosophy to it's logical conclusion the use of unmarked cars for traffic duties should cease immediately.

Quite right and the vast majority of cars are marked. The plain cars however are a very good deterrent factor too, there is an equally strong argument to support their use.

[Mikkel]

I just hope that the police invested, at the very least, a comparable effort in deterring drunk drivers at the Hokitika Wild Foods Festival this weekend as well. However, I didn't encounter a single police car going over Arthur's Pass last night. I saw one police checkpoint of sorts about 5-10 kms north of Greymouth... not really the right place for it though.

Plenty of people driving erratically over the pass as well and unlit trailers in the dark and other goodies too.

[peasea]

If their presence caused some people on the roads that day to ride or drive more appropriately they may well have saved the country millions through having prevented a crash that could have cost mega bucks in rehab and ACC.

An ounce of prevention is worth a gallon of cure.

I couldn't agree more but I still say it was OTT, half the number of officers and vehicles would have got the job done. Unless, of course, they are only doing half the job; then you'll need twice as many.

[MyGSXF]

Last Friday night (March 13) there was a huge, and I mean huge, road block on SH6 just north of Nelson at Hira. Ok, WOF checks, breath tests and so on don't bother me but surely one or two squad cars could handle that. I didn't have my camera that evening but we can recall about 7 or 8 squad cars there, an unmarked one at the top of the hill and another squad car just on the downward leg on the northern side. They also took my photograph for whatever reason. It was clearly a sting pointed at visiting bikers who'd come to Nelson for the poker run on the Saturday, this was denied by the officer that checked my details. Liar.

Then came the poker run the next day. The assembly point was host to several squad cars and a few unmarked cars. The route was dotted with patrol cars and several unmarked cars. At Tapawera there was a police photographer, unmarked and marked cars etc. They also used video cameras throughout the day. At one intersection (not far from the Riwaka Hotel) they had positioned cameras about 100m up the road to photograph those who did not come to a complete halt at the stop sign. Fortunately I saw the rider in front do a double take, both his feet hit the ground and I followed suit.

Then came the prize; a major operation on the Appleby Highway that saw hoards of bikers pulled over for WOF and Rego checks with breath tests thrown in for good measure.

I don't have a problem with these operations pre se but I did think that the taxpayers money was being wasted here with the scale of these operations. Do the police really think that at such an event anyone is likely to get turpsed-up? If you did that, and proceeded to knock someone off their bike, the law would be the least of your worries.

When I stopped to reverse the situation and take pics of the coppers I got the twenty questions routine; "what do you think you're doing" etc. Had my machine checked out, me checked out and so on. I also didn't get any straight answers to my questions; double standards.

It was over the top, as per fucking usual.

Kinda requires the situation to be kept in perspective... coz there's a bit more to it.. :eek:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/2266124/Bike-run-triggers-gang-fear

[Okey Dokey]

Perhaps not, I just don't like seeing public money being wasted.

Well, thousands of dollars in unpaid fines collected sounds good to me.

Patched gang members or police? I know which side I support!:Police:

[peasea]

Kinda requires the situation to be kept in perspective... coz there's a bit more to it.. :eek:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/2266124/Bike-run-triggers-gang-fear

Interesting article. I see that McGurk is quoted as saying the run was held "to mark the establishment of the Red Devils gang in Nelson". That's funny, for the last seven years the run has been held to raise funds for the St John Ambulance. There's no doubt about the Red Devils making an appearance though.

Also of note is that McGurk has already decided that the Red Devils and the Lost Breed being in the same town would lead to "competition and confrontation" yet this was denied by a Red Devils member who said there was "no possibility" of that.

I sincerely hope there isn't.

Thanks for the link; I knew there'd be something in the NM as I spoke briefly to their reporter and photographer on the day.

[mikeey01]

They also took my photograph for whatever reason.

Did they do this to every biker they stopped?
Was there any reason or logic as to why?
After all they have it on drivers....

One wonders why they would be doing this and then what data base it may well end up on.

[Max Preload]

Did they do this to every biker they stopped?
Was there any reason or logic as to why?
After all they have it on drivers....

One wonders why they would be doing this and then what data base it may well end up on.

Whatever the reason, that's an appalling and insulting practice and although it's perfectly legal being a public place it's also perfectly legal for you to not submit to it and cover your face. I'll be damned if I'd allow them to take my photograph like a common criminal for undisclosed purposes. Next we'll all have to wear arm bands...

[MarkH]

Such class. I have fuck all time for drink drivers - be it on a bike or in a car. All the same to me. Selfish faggots that will only care when its too late.

I am in 100% agreement there mate - so is my mate with half of his right leg missing who hasn't ridden a bike in the last 2 decades, thanks to a drunk driver.


However, there were more cops present than was required to get the job done. Or, perhaps it takes dozens of NZ coppers to do the job that cops from other nations take in their stride. (?)

Were there? Or maybe they were training new recruits? I don't know and I don't think you do either!


Following that philosophy to it's logical conclusion the use of unmarked cars for traffic duties should cease immediately.

Of course they should - when I keep seeing police cars I am reminded to behave myself, the more marked cars I see the better. I support the idea of getting rid of unmarked police cars 100%!

It's not like they need mufti cars to catch speeders, I have seen someone speed past a parked police car (not mufti) and then get pulled over and ticketed. I paid attention and slowed down, they passed me and got taxed for being stupid (why can't drivers pay more attention to the road ahead and things like a car with disco lights parked on the side of the road?).

[Indoo]

I think the 85 tickets they gave out should have covered costs quite nicely. Can't see anything wrong with putting the heat on gang rides who are behind the meth trade in this country and those who chose to ride alongside people like that.

[peasea]

I think the 85 tickets they gave out should have covered costs quite nicely. Can't see anything wrong with putting the heat on gang rides who are behind the meth trade in this country and those who chose to ride alongside people like that.

Even though the vast majority of those on the run only ride with "people like that" one day a year, for charity? This was a fundraiser, let's not forget that. The St John Ambulance have been happy recipients of the proceeds from this run for seven years now and for that alone I'll continue to support it; you never know when you're going to need them.

[peasea]

I think the 85 tickets they gave out should have covered costs quite nicely.

Any idea what the tickets were for? I have no idea, I didn't get one.

If they covered costs, trained up some newbies and looked good in the eyes of Joe Public, then great. They'll probably do it all again next year too, and if it's self-funding that's fine.

I can't see the sense in anyone heading out on such a run with no WOF, rego, license or whatever. You're under the spotlight at such an event so anyone who did get a ticket should sharpen their act.

[spudchucka]

I couldn't agree more but I still say it was OTT, half the number of officers and vehicles would have got the job done.

What job exactly? Writing a few tickets out to bikers that weren't playing by the rules? You're probably correct. Or, perhaps there was some other objective beyond the ticket book that necessitated having additional staff assigned to that operation?

[peasea]

What job exactly? Writing a few tickets out to bikers that weren't playing by the rules? You're probably correct. Or, perhaps there was some other objective beyond the ticket book that necessitated having additional staff assigned to that operation?

The job of lining riders up for WOF, Rego and breath tests. That job.

"Beyond the ticket book"? I doubt the Highway Patrol can see past their ticket book, revenue collecting is (arguably) their primary function. As for the 'real' Police, no doubt all the photographs and videos they took were to see who's associating with who etc. It has also been suggested elsewhere that perhaps some newbies were being instructed 'on the job' as it were. Quite possible.

"Some other objective", is that code for "ulterior motive"?

[98tls]

Speaking of what cost to the taxpayer? Whats the deal with paying more for gas to fund Aucklands transport system?Why did they deem it not fair for Aucklanders to pay for it there the ones who will benefit (no shit).Whilst i extend sympathy to anyone living in the shithole i feel in no way obliged to fund there stay,then again a once off payment to ensure people stay there is another matter.:clap:

[peasea]

Speaking of what cost to the taxpayer? Whats the deal with paying more for gas to fund Aucklands transport system?Why did they deem it not fair for Aucklanders to pay for it there the ones who will benefit (no shit).Whilst i extend sympathy to anyone living in the shithole i feel in no way obliged to fund there stay,then again a once off payment to ensure people stay there is another matter.:clap:

It's the easy option.

I actually don't have a problem with user pays when it comes to roads; toll roads, bridges etc eventually pay for themselves and I would like to see more by-passes so that the only heavy traffic to go through built up areas is supplying that area. Through traffic is a right pain for locals, especially at night. A by-pass around Auckland would be good (with no on/off ramps from Bombay to Puhoi) but where to put it?

[Max Preload]

Speaking of what cost to the taxpayer? Whats the deal with paying more for gas to fund Aucklands transport system?Why did they deem it not fair for Aucklanders to pay for it there the ones who will benefit (no shit).Whilst i extend sympathy to anyone living in the shithole i feel in no way obliged to fund there stay,then again a once off payment to ensure people stay there is another matter.:clap:


:Offtopic:

Auckland has never received it's fair share of the road funding on a contribution basis - Aucklanders contributed to everyone elses roads. But then yours is the typical ignorant knee-jerk reaction of small minded small towners.

[3umph]

Looks like it's just the Highway Patrol involved.



All new police cars now are going to the Highway colours of yellow and blue and orange and blues are being fazed out... so all starting to look the same now

[98tls]

:Offtopic:

Auckland has never received it's fair share of the road funding on a contribution basis - Aucklanders contributed to everyone elses roads. But then yours is the typical ignorant knee-jerk reaction of small minded small towners.
No my knees are fine,as for reactions yours is typical of everything i perceive Auckland to be but no matter your plight i guess is to live there,after spending many years in the smoke small towns fine by me thanks.

[Max Preload]

No my knees are fine,as for reactions yours is typical of everything i perceive Auckland to be but no matter your plight i guess is to live there,after spending many years in the smoke small towns fine by me thanks.

I love living in Auckland - there's nothing wrong with it.

Next time you want to comment on something and not look like an ass, I suggest you do a little research on the facts of the matter first.

[98tls]

I love living in Auckland - there's nothing wrong with it.

Next time you want to comment on something and not look like an ass, I suggest you do a little research on the facts of the matter first. Settle down,not my fault you live there and no need to defend your choice.By the way this is the interweb,you cant see me no matter what you think you see.:laugh::laugh:fuckin Aucklanders:laugh:well weird.:laugh:Tell ya what if it makes you feel better and gets you fat red rep me,you seem the type,go on you know you want to

[The Stranger]

Sounds like a typical ATNR.

[Indoo]

Even though the vast majority of those on the run only ride with "people like that" one day a year, for charity? .

If you care so much about charity and the good of the community why on earth would you ride alongside the same gang members who control the drug trade in this country and the create such an incredible cost in terms of wasted lives and money?

Grow some balls.

[peasea]

If you care so much about charity and the good of the community why on earth would you ride alongside the same gang members who control the drug trade in this country and the create such an incredible cost in terms of wasted lives and money?

Grow some balls.


Grow some balls? I have already done that and they work just fine. I fail to see what my anatomy has to do with anything.

Nowhere have I suggested that these people are saints but there's nothing wrong with giving a little bit to charity, giving a little back to the community.

I've seen what some drugs can do to people, P especially wrecks lives and there's no doubt about it. However, if you take that stance then you'll be boycotting the Havelock Mussel Festival because it's sponsored by a brewery, look at the damage alcohol does in the wider community and the festival isn't even a charitable event.

If you're so 'anti-drugs' why don't you organise a protest outside Lion Breweries?

Better still, grow some balls yourself and have your own poker run for the St John Ambulance, see who collects the most. Bet you can't be bothered.

[peasea]

I love living in Auckland - there's nothing wrong with it.

Good on ya, stay there.

I have a brother who loves living there but after twenty years I decided to leave it behind, I think it sucks but that's just my opinion and I did something about it.

[Indoo]

Nowhere have I suggested that these people are saints but there's nothing wrong with giving a little bit to charity, giving a little back to the community..

Funny how nowhere in any of your posts did you mention you were riding alongside patched gang members at all, all the while complaining about the excessive show of Police attention until someone else pointed it out.

You really think the gangs are there because they have such community spirirt and want to give something back? :laugh:they do it because it gives them a degree of legitimacy in a show of power, they might even suck in few gullible fools and future prospects on the way as well. And you just aided them in that.

If you want to donate to St Johns theres actually an easier way than making friends with gangs, it can even be done online.

https://www.stjohn.org.nz/donate/donate.aspx?

[Patrick]

...."Some other objective", is that code for "ulterior motive"?

A bit like the "Poker Runs?"

Just a front to make them look good to gullible Joe Public, get a bit of good publicity for one day of the year...

Edit : Indoo beat me to it...

[peasea]

Funny how nowhere in any of your posts did you mention you were riding alongside patched gang members at all, all the while complaining about the excessive show of Police attention......[/url]

That's because on the Friday evening it was just me and the the missus going for a quiet ride, then on the Saturday I was either in front or behind them, not alongside them.

Sheesh.

[peasea]

A bit like the "Poker Runs?"

Just a front to make them look good to gullible Joe Public, get a bit of good publicity for one day of the year...

Edit : Indoo beat me to it...

Not all poker runs are organised by M/C's (some of which are gangs). I've been on poker runs hosted by hot rod clubs and S/C's, or Social Clubs. The Jokers in Ashburton are a prime example; great bunch of folk, love their motorcycles, they put on a great show once every two years and in the alternate years host a great POKER RUN! There's no ulterior motive there.

C'mon, you live in the 'Naki, you must be aware of the Axe Throwers M/C. They're not a gang are they? They also host a bi-annual, alternating show/poker run scenario. Are they a problem? Really?

In the case of Nelson Bays Motorcycle Events Ltd, who hosted last w/e's poker run, they got nothing but BAD publicity so I don't know where you get off on that.

If an organisation (say, Patrick's Motorcycle Events Ltd) hosted a poker run (or a needlework afternoon for that matter) and several Hells Angels fronted up, who would be the one to send them on their way? Conversely, if they weren't sent on their way and they forked out their registration fee, rode around for the day and then went home, where's the harm?

[Patrick]

Not all poker runs are organised by M/C's (some of which are gangs). I've been on poker runs hosted by hot rod clubs and S/C's, or Social Clubs. The Jokers in Ashburton are a prime example; great bunch of folk, love their motorcycles, they put on a great show once every two years and in the alternate years host a great POKER RUN! There's no ulterior motive there.

C'mon, you live in the 'Naki, you must be aware of the Axe Throwers M/C. They're not a gang are they? They also host a bi-annual, alternating show/poker run scenario. Are they a problem? Really?

In the case of Nelson Bays Motorcycle Events Ltd, who hosted last w/e's poker run, they got nothing but BAD publicity so I don't know where you get off on that.

If an organisation (say, Patrick's Motorcycle Events Ltd) hosted a poker run (or a needlework afternoon for that matter) and several Hells Angels fronted up, who would be the one to send them on their way? Conversely, if they weren't sent on their way and they forked out their registration fee, rode around for the day and then went home, where's the harm?

The Axe Throwers? Can't say it rings any bells to be honest, so that proves your point, I guess... Are they in Stratford???

The only poker runs I knew of are hosted by the Magogs, an OMG who attract all other OMG's... but these are small by comparison to ones held in major centres.

Good causes and all, for sure... but it is an admitted fact that many do these runs for the improvement of the public image (ie: it isn't a line the cops made up...).

You takin the piss outta me needlework group? By hokey... All those tea cosys we make for charity....

[peasea]

The Axe Throwers? Can't say it rings any bells to be honest, so that proves your point, I guess... Are they in Stratford???

The only poker runs I knew of are hosted by the Magogs, an OMG who attract all other OMG's... but these are small by comparison to ones held in major centres.

Good causes and all, for sure... but it is an admitted fact that many do these runs for the improvement of the public image (ie: it isn't a line the cops made up...).

You takin the piss outta me needlework group? By hokey... All those tea cosys we make for charity....

They're Hawera, but low profile, they have their own clubhouse etc, good setup actually. They host a show at the racecourse every second year, last Labour W/e there was one. Hot rods and all. There's certainly some sexy tin in the 'naki.

Me? Take the piss? :no: Bite your tongue.

[Patrick]

They're Hawera, but low profile, they have their own clubhouse etc, good setup actually. They host a show at the racecourse every second year, last Labour W/e there was one. Hot rods and all. There's certainly some sexy tin in the 'naki.

Me? Take the piss? :no: Bite your tongue.

Again??? It hurts.....

Yeah, Hawera... rings bells, but for all the right reasons, not the wrong ones....

Sexy tin all over the place in NZ actually - you gotta see the Americarna show here some time. 800 plus cars, some real stunners all right!!! Pure beauty........

[peasea]

Again??? It hurts.....

Yeah, Hawera... rings bells, but for all the right reasons, not the wrong ones....

Sexy tin all over the place in NZ actually - you gotta see the Americarna show here some time. 800 plus cars, some real stunners all right!!! Pure beauty........

It's on the 'To Do' list, dunno when tho. Cairns next week, might grab a couple of blingythings while I'm there, it's all money. More runs coming up too, even though the seasons are changing; non-stop erotic cabaret really.

[Patrick]

It's on the 'To Do' list, dunno when tho. Cairns next week, might grab a couple of blingythings while I'm there, it's all money. More runs coming up too, even though the seasons are changing; non-stop erotic cabaret really.

Tis on every year. $5 programme gives you a ticket to go in to the draw for a yank tank.

A Corvette was the 1st years prize, some 70 + year old duck won that and she sold it for the $$$ The following year was a Plymouth of some sort I think... a bit plain. This years was a Plymouth (?) Convertable, white leather upholstery, but don't look too closely - the dash was a bit average and looked its age IMHO.

Wonder what they will have as a prize next year?

[peasea]

Tis on every year. $5 programme gives you a ticket to go in to the draw for a yank tank.

A Corvette was the 1st years prize, some 70 + year old duck won that and she sold it for the $$$ The following year was a Plymouth of some sort I think... a bit plain. This years was a Plymouth (?) Convertable, white leather upholstery, but don't look too closely - the dash was a bit average and looked its age IMHO.

Wonder what they will have as a prize next year?

They might be growing now......

Have you seen what the Beach Hop has up for grabs?

http://www.beachhop.co.nz/

[Patrick]

They might be growing now......

Have you seen what the Beach Hop has up for grabs?

http://www.beachhop.co.nz/

:love: Awesome!!!

There was a convertable like the red one at this latest Americarna...:love::love:

[peasea]

:love: Awesome!!!

There was a convertable like the red one at this latest Americarna...:love::love:

Somewhere in the back of my mind I can recall a rally where a Harley was the giveaway, not sure if it was here or Oz. Bloody good idea tho. Could be any BEAR's bike actually............

[Patrick]

Somewhere in the back of my mind I can recall a rally where a Harley was the giveaway, not sure if it was here or Oz. Bloody good idea tho. Could be any BEAR's bike actually............

Coz they couldn't sell it?
:Pokey:

[peasea]

Coz they couldn't sell it?
:Pokey:

Is that your bandit I can smell burning..............?

[Patrick]

Is that your bandit I can smell burning..............?

Nah... she's nice and comfy under her blanky....

[peasea]

Nah... she's nice and comfy under her blanky....

Lecky-blanky? Could be shorting.....

[Sidewinder]

Last Friday night (March 13) there was a huge, and I mean huge, road block on SH6 just north of Nelson at Hira. Ok, WOF checks, breath tests and so on don't bother me but surely one or two squad cars could handle that. I didn't have my camera that evening but we can recall about 7 or 8 squad cars there, an unmarked one at the top of the hill and another squad car just on the downward leg on the northern side. They also took my photograph for whatever reason. It was clearly a sting pointed at visiting bikers who'd come to Nelson for the poker run on the Saturday, this was denied by the officer that checked my details. Liar.

Then came the poker run the next day. The assembly point was host to several squad cars and a few unmarked cars. The route was dotted with patrol cars and several unmarked cars. At Tapawera there was a police photographer, unmarked and marked cars etc. They also used video cameras throughout the day. At one intersection (not far from the Riwaka Hotel) they had positioned cameras about 100m up the road to photograph those who did not come to a complete halt at the stop sign. Fortunately I saw the rider in front do a double take, both his feet hit the ground and I followed suit.

Then came the prize; a major operation on the Appleby Highway that saw hoards of bikers pulled over for WOF and Rego checks with breath tests thrown in for good measure.

I don't have a problem with these operations pre se but I did think that the taxpayers money was being wasted here with the scale of these operations. Do the police really think that at such an event anyone is likely to get turpsed-up? If you did that, and proceeded to knock someone off their bike, the law would be the least of your worries.

When I stopped to reverse the situation and take pics of the coppers I got the twenty questions routine; "what do you think you're doing" etc. Had my machine checked out, me checked out and so on. I also didn't get any straight answers to my questions; double standards.

It was over the top, as per fucking usual.

hahaha that is crack up, maybe the fuckers just had no where to park there cars that weekend, nice pic, that old prick looks pissed that he is on camera!

kaipai brutha

[peasea]

hahaha that is crack up, maybe the fuckers just had no where to park there cars that weekend, nice pic, that old prick looks pissed that he is on camera!

kaipai brutha


It was quite funny mate. He says "what are you doing?" I says "what you guys did last night, you take pics of me, I take pics of you, fair?"

Grumble, grumble, license please, no probs, see ya.......

Nothing better to do.............

[Sidewinder]

It was quite funny mate. He says "what are you doing?" I says "what you guys did last night, you take pics of me, I take pics of you, fair?"

Grumble, grumble, license please, no probs, see ya.......

Nothing better to do.............

haha stupid twats