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Slipstream
4th March 2005, 11:49
So here I am wondering about life

... No I haven't been smoking anything :p :D

... If you don't have a bike to take away your worries, what do you do?

I ask cos I'm interested.

My usual take is to talk about my problem to death, so I can then bury it and move on. But sometimes that really doesn't seem to be the best option.
Makes things worse.

I know there is no set formula for these sorts of things, but I'd be interested to see what you guys come up with to fix / change / sort out your problems.

Remember, we're pretending you don't have access to a bike .... :(

ktulu
4th March 2005, 11:55
Talking has got to be the go, even just socialising with other people and seeing whats is happening in their lives gives you a bit of perspective on things, makes you see your own problems in a different light. Sucks if you don't have friends though...

Other than that, as I was told the other night (and no I am not maori) "kia kaha, be strong, walk tall"

vifferman
4th March 2005, 11:58
Sounds like you need a break, Slipstream. (BTW - I didn't tick any of your options, because none of them are good solutions).

The biggest thing is someone to share problems, gripes, fears, etc. with. Although talking about things doesn't always help unless you resolve to do something and actually do it, it is better than internalising.
Sometimes small things can help - going for a quiet walk, having a good laugh at summat silly (comedy movie or whatever), having a good time with friends (if you have them - some of us don't...), just enjoying a special moment, like a beautiful sunset or whatever.

Ultimately, we're on our own, so I guess the key thing (hard though it is) is learning to accept our foibles, weaknesses, the dark and ugly things only we know about ourselves, and just be content with who and what we are.
Wish I could....

speedpro
4th March 2005, 12:17
Doing stuff with my boy. It's real hard to stay stressed with the little guy around. Or just getting busy doing something mind-dead like painting bits of the house or dare I say it - weeding gardens. Getting busy has always helped me in stressy times. Busy doing something unrelated to the stress-causing situation.

Deano
4th March 2005, 12:20
Don't think so much about shit. Especially that which you cannot control.

Be motivated and have goals and ambitions.

Try not to hurt too many people.

But ultimately roll with the punches and go with the flow.

scumdog
4th March 2005, 12:20
I ticked one of you responses, while I use it I can't say it is the ideal solution.

Unfortunately time is the one thing that helps - and you can't buy bottled time.

Talking with others is the best bet, puts different perspective and solutions to you 'problem' plus getting it off your chest helps heaps.

**R1**
4th March 2005, 12:27
i do wheelies and stoppies....wrks every time, not that i can recal the last time i felt like you do, but i prctice lots just incase:devil2: ,


i see u have no bike, y dont ya get WT or one of the other Welly boys to take ya for a blast and do a few wheelies? have ya feelin like new in no time:niceone: or you will just shit ya pants....eitha way i bet ya forget all about ya troubles..

duckman
4th March 2005, 12:28
In the immortal words of Homer (Simpson), not the philosipher (sp)....


"Dont over think it" :apint:

Coldkiwi
4th March 2005, 12:41
with or without the bike (had 3 1/2 months of without recently!) I find the best one is 'pray'. Not one of the poll options tho :(

dss3
4th March 2005, 12:55
Excercise, excercise, excercise...

Is not only a great way to relieve stress and help you forgot about a bad day, but it has the added benefit of being good for you and releasing natural chemicals to make you feel better.

Whether it be a walk/run/pushbike around the block/park, or a session at the gym I find it to be a great way to unwind.

my 2c anyway,

C ya
_daryl

MSTRS
4th March 2005, 13:09
Don't worry about it - only dogs worry (sheep) & they get shot for it. Write your troubles down, then let go of them by burning the paper they were written on. GET A BIKE

Maximus
4th March 2005, 13:17
Don't think so much about shit. Especially that which you cannot control.

Be motivated and have goals and ambitions.

Try not to hurt too many people.

But ultimately roll with the punches and go with the flow.


Now this is bloody good advice mate, I'd give ya a "rep" point if I bloody knew how! :brick:

But I have to emphasis the need for :apint: :apint: or two. . . .
Always helped me :banana:

bear
4th March 2005, 13:18
Share the issues, and exercise is great for working some out (running or the like)

MSTRS
4th March 2005, 13:22
Now this is bloody good advice mate, I'd give ya a "rep" point if I bloody knew how! :brick:

See the scales in the top right of each post?? Click that for the post you want to rep

Maximus
4th March 2005, 13:40
See the scales in the top right of each post?? Click that for the post you want to rep

:done: Thanks for that mate, my first time giving rep points :banana:

Ya'll have a good weekend, im moving the work meeting to the pub :yeah: . Joy's of being "the boss" (well kinda) :banana:

jrandom
4th March 2005, 14:15
Life's problems?

I don't have any.

My life is perfect.

So I guess I can't really comment.

T.I.E
4th March 2005, 14:21
i got to say time heals but to pass the time is a pain. drinking your sorrows away, as long as you don't become a alcoholic like me. otherwise what really works for me is change. hair cut change hair color. clean out ya room etc, clean things around you. feels like your sheeding a layer of skin. out with the old.

but becareful you don't bury anything inside. but a good clean out works wonders. get a piercing. or something different

Big Dave
4th March 2005, 14:26
So here I am wondering about life

"This above all ~ to thine self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man." (Hamlet)

Confront your problem, action it, learn from it and then look forward.

And like the others have said, do something that makes you feel good about yourself and the problem will probably appear smaller.

Or as my darlin' compassionate wife tells me - 'Just get over it'.

chz
bd

Biff
4th March 2005, 14:42
Walk & talk, talk & walk. Not necessarily at the same time, or when on my own. Otherwise those guys in the white coats tend to take me away.

I also find a kiss and a cuddle with the kids, and if she's a good girl, Ms Biff helps. You're welcome to borrow my fambly for chat or kiss n cuddle anytime you like.

(nothing pervy here - move along please)

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 14:44
y dont ya get WT or one of the other Welly boys to take ya for a blast and do a few wheelies?

:killingme :killingme ......... :mellow:


have ya feelin like new in no time:niceone: or you will just shit ya pants....eitha way i bet ya forget all about ya troubles

I seem to recall going 180km, on the back wheel, top of Wainuiomata hill, as a pillion and a big gust of wind buffets the bike.... Thank God for skill....or was it just plain luck :sweatdrop


BTW, we're pretending not to have a bike remember :niceone:

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 14:46
I also find a kiss and a cuddle with the kids, and if she's a good girl, Ms Biff helps. You're welcome to borrow my fambly for chat or kiss n cuddle anytime you like.

(nothing pervy here - move along please)

I tell you what, I'll take your wife and kids....if you take my kids :devil2: :devil2:

jrandom
4th March 2005, 14:50
I tell you what, I'll take your wife and kids...

Well, tell *you* what - you can have my wife, if you let me watch. :devil2:

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 14:51
Well, tell *you* what - you can have my wife, if you let me watch. :devil2:

I'm going to tell her you said that :devil2:

jrandom
4th March 2005, 14:54
I'm going to tell her you said that :devil2:

You have me waaaaaaay out-evil'd, you know that?

bungbung
4th March 2005, 14:56
Perhaps you need this:

(It has a special feature)

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 14:59
Perhaps you need this:

(It has a special feature)

LMFAO

:killingme :killingme :killingme

I like you. You're funny :D

:killingme classic

But I don't need one of them locks

:lol:

jrandom
4th March 2005, 15:11
But I don't need one of them locks...

'Coz when they catch him in the back seat, trying to pick your locks
They're going to send him back to Mother in a cardboard box?

He'd better run...

White trash
4th March 2005, 15:11
Perhaps you need this:

(It has a special feature)

You cheeky prick!

This has nothing to do with me, I'm innocent I tell ya!

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 15:16
You cheeky prick!

Come on, it was pretty funny :D


This has nothing to do with me

You are correct, it has nothing to do with you


I'm innocent I tell ya!

Ummmm, yeah, right ;) :p

Was it 180km BTW ... or faster?

White trash
4th March 2005, 15:22
About 180 or there abouts. Fast enough anyway.

And it was all "skill", no "luck"

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 15:22
I wasn't just talking about me.
I have a few friends with problems, who seem to be coming to me (which I don't mind)
I was just interested in seeing that sometimes they like to talk about their problem lots. Some like to bottle it up and make themselves sick (usually the guys) And still more prefer to take some form or drug (including alcohol) to forget their worries.

After accounting, I want to take up anthrapology as a hobby course. :yeah:


That damn tennis ball is humping my words again :angry:

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 15:27
About 180 or there abouts. Fast enough anyway.

Damn skippy it was. I was scared shitless like when I was told how to sell a deaf man a chicken, in a parked car.:confused: :sweatdrop :shutup: :crazy: :shit: :(

vifferman
4th March 2005, 15:28
After accounting, I want to take up anthrapology as a hobby course.
First lecture deals with how to spell it....
Next one deals with all these damned anthropomorphised tennis ball thingies.

Indiana_Jones
4th March 2005, 15:33
Alcohol is my friend :D, like top gun and McQueen

-Indy

Waylander
4th March 2005, 15:48
Liquer and wieght lifting, or turn on the X-box and kill shit-loads of aliens.

ZorsT
4th March 2005, 19:07
pushbike, gliding

I guess its knowing one set of wrong moves can cause great harm to ones self, so you ignore/forget the thing/person/thoughts that is/are the problem. I dunno, if that doesn't help, i turn to Jim, or Jack for guidance, If that isn't an option, i talk it up to someone I trust (or who Is on the other side of NZ/the world, the internet is great...but...not those pshrinks, they are all INSANE!!!(and yes, all 26 cards you held up had pictures of motorcycles on it, i told you before))

but time heals all wounds

Slipstream
4th March 2005, 19:47
i turn to Jim

Can't do that :brick:


or Jack for guidance

Haven't got any of this :weep:


but time heals all wounds

I know this is the correct answer. But I hate this answer. Time has a lot to answer for! :angry2:

ZorsT
4th March 2005, 19:59
I know this is the correct answer.

there is no "correct answer"

Nothing is right to everyone, nothing is wrong to everyone, therefore you cant go wrong, and you cant go right (maybe I should just shutup while people still listen to me)

good luck, time is a bitch (7 months until motorbike), but things WILL get better, and when you look back, you will realise that things arent so bad.

Time
4th March 2005, 20:14
Time has a lot to answer for! :angry2:

Before you get too angry with me. Maybe you should ask me the right questions before I answer them.

Motu
4th March 2005, 20:46
I'm the strong silent type that bottles it up,then goes off and quietly explodes in a remote corner.

If I can't ride I go for a walk...or do something really,really physically hard...um,that could be walking in my present condition...I gotta BURN it out.

Big Dave
4th March 2005, 20:48
I want to take up anthrapology as a hobby course.

I wouldn't dig it.
bd

sels1
4th March 2005, 21:59
there is no "correct answer"


The answer lies within.
Learn to meditate, gwasshopper

Blakamin
4th March 2005, 22:41
I'm the strong silent type that bottles it up...

thats funny... I'm the loud type that get its outta a bottle.... :spudwhat: :apint:

Storm
6th March 2005, 21:17
Keeping in mind that what works for me might not work for everyone;
God grant me the serenity to deal with things I cannot change;
the courage to change things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Each to thier own

Waylander
7th March 2005, 20:49
Keeping in mind that what works for me might not work for everyone;
God grant me the serenity to deal with things I cannot change;
the courage to change things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Each to thier own
"Once and Future King"

Storm
7th March 2005, 20:58
?????????? What did I miss? My name isnt Arthur? :spudwhat:

Waylander
7th March 2005, 21:10
?????????? What did I miss? My name isnt Arthur? :spudwhat:
In some versions of the story that is the code all the knights of the round table live by.

Storm
8th March 2005, 16:16
Ahh ,all is made clear. I first saw it on one of those little inspirational bible verse type cards at primary school, and its stuck with me ever since

FROSTY
30th April 2005, 18:25
to answer the initial question. Without a bike to help me clear my head -welll simply I cant.
I've been known to jump off perfectly good bikes and airplanes and drive go carts at silly speeds.

Skyryder
30th April 2005, 20:17
You can no more change one second in the past as you can a thousands years.

Deal with it and move on.


Skyryder

Slipstream
30th April 2005, 20:32
You can no more change one second in the past as you can a thousands years.

and like sands through the hour glass so are the days of our lives....

Todays episode we see that Sister Mary leaves the church for her twin sister's husband. When she finds out that her twin sister isn't actually her twin sister but..........her brother.....:shit:

wari
1st May 2005, 09:16
IGG-norr-ants and blissis my friend ... :doobey:

pommie girl
1st May 2005, 09:21
Body and mind numbing exercise (always found martial arts good for this), great friends who understand, the occasional couple down the pub and accepting that what's done is done (and moving on). That's my recipe.

Slipstream
1st May 2005, 09:24
great friends who understand, the occasional couple down the pub and accepting that what's done is done (and moving on). That's my recipe.

I usually go for this recipe too. :yes:
Bit difficult to take 2 young kids to the pub :(

pommie girl
1st May 2005, 09:40
I usually go for this recipe too. :yes:
Bit difficult to take 2 young kids to the pub :(

Ahh, you need the UK for that - handy pub gardens with various things to amuse the kiddies... Worked a treat for my parents, practically grew up in pubs and when people used to ask for directions, they were generally given via pub names rather than road names :D

Biff
1st May 2005, 12:46
Ahhhhh - the great British pub. Warm beer, lousy service and bland food all wrapped up in a relaxing mock Tudor exterior. I remember the days. Well.....some of them. Others are quite hazy.

pommie girl
1st May 2005, 12:55
Ahhhhh - the great British pub. Warm beer, lousy service and bland food all wrapped up in a relaxing mock Tudor exterior. I remember the days. Well.....some of them. Others are quite hazy.

Ahhh, you'd be getting confused - they only seem to do mock tudor over here - we have the real thing :yes: Obviously you haven't been to a bar in central auckland - stuck up service, limited beer selection and overpriced food. Gotta love it!

Ms Piggy
1st May 2005, 14:40
So here I am wondering about life

... No I haven't been smoking anything :p :D

... If you don't have a bike to take away your worries, what do you do?

I ask cos I'm interested.

My usual take is to talk about my problem to death, so I can then bury it and move on. But sometimes that really doesn't seem to be the best option.
Makes things worse.

I know there is no set formula for these sorts of things, but I'd be interested to see what you guys come up with to fix / change / sort out your problems.

Remember, we're pretending you don't have access to a bike .... :(
Even with a bike I talk, talk, talk and talk some more...sometimes I write it down, sometimes I eat :whistle: , sometimes I go for a walk, sometimes I drink :drinknsin , sometimes I throw a tantrum :mad: .

I find though that talking and writing it down are the most constructive. I've also had counselling via the FREE student counsellor at Massy Uni.

Hitcher
1st May 2005, 17:11
I'm probably among the worst bottler-uppers of emotion and stress. Bottling-up may work when you're young and stupid. But as I get older I find it just eats away at me and the techniques that once worked to blow shit away are not as effective as they once were. At least now I know the symptoms of stress. But I'm still looking for the silver bullet cure. Maybe I inherited the worrying gene from my mum.

One thing I do know. The only person who can provide enlightenment and cure me is me.

StoneChucker
1st May 2005, 18:29
What do you do if riding only temporarily delays your thoughts. What if you have noone to talk to? And, even if you did, what if you couldn't really talk anyway? Excercise is absolutely great, but what happens if you can't be bothered because you are eating crap, caused by your worries? How about if you don't really drink, or take mind numbing substances? There is no escape sometimes.

You certainly can't change the past, and the future scares/depresses me. I'm a definite bottler, I've been bottling for a good 15 years now. The smallest things piss me off. When I find myself really upset by something, I have no choice but to supress it. It's not so bad though, I just don't know where it all goes, and what happens when there is no more space left.

I think I'll stop typing now, I just read what I wrote :whocares:

Coyote
1st May 2005, 18:39
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

Hitcher
1st May 2005, 18:43
Anyway at least we're all alive. Flyin/Sam isn't. Let's reflect on that for a moment.

Joni
1st May 2005, 18:48
Anyway at least we're all alive. Flyin/Sam isn't. Let's reflect on that for a moment.

100% Brett!
:(
Life is a true gift....

Storm
1st May 2005, 19:05
Yeah, it's occasions like this that remind me why my signature is what it is

Zed
1st May 2005, 19:07
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dyingWhat an encouragement you aren't!

scumdog
1st May 2005, 19:31
Yeah, it's occasions like this that remind me why my signature is what it is

And me mine.

Sad times at KB

Biff
1st May 2005, 19:40
The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred... Soichiro Honda

Ms Piggy
1st May 2005, 19:47
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying
Mate!! You're too young to be so bitter!! C'mon life aint so bad for us. Chin up and all those other cliches! ;)

MadDuck
1st May 2005, 20:00
"Yesterday is gone, tomorrow may never come...so what are you doing with your today"

Live it breathe it enjoy it because we aint long on this earth. We ride bikes cos its damn fun but we also know the consequences if we make a mistake. Tis indeed a sad day for KB.

Maximus
2nd May 2005, 11:40
"Yesterday is gone, tomorrow may never come...so what are you doing with your today"

Live it breathe it enjoy it because we aint long on this earth. We ride bikes cos its damn fun but we also know the consequences if we make a mistake. Tis indeed a sad day for KB.


People, we all need to focus on today and what we have now. I have had too many friends/family members pass away, it never gets easier to deal with. I had a pm from someone today asking that I change my signature as I had posted a farewell on the "urgent" thread and my sig was inappropriate, so I changed it to what I have now, (nd I took no offence whatsoever).
My sister passed away on Friday in "tragic" circumstances, i'll never understand why, nor can any of us understand why such a brilliant talented young man was taken from this world way before his time (sam)
What I am trying to say is PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE live for what you have and for what you strive for, always look after yourself and try to live life to the fullest.
The sig I have now is a quote that my best mate used to use in another forum-based-site that we use to use constantly - he passed away last year in a motorcycle accident in th UK, however I will always remember him for this!
Come on everyone lifes too short!! :ride:

Paul in NZ
2nd May 2005, 12:07
People, we all need to focus on today and what we have now. I have had too many friends/family members pass away, it never gets easier to deal with. I had a pm from someone today asking that I change my signature as I had posted a farewell on the "urgent" thread and my sig was inappropriate, so I changed it to what I have now, (nd I took no offence whatsoever).
My sister passed away on Friday in "tragic" circumstances, i'll never understand why, nor can any of us understand why such a brilliant talented young man was taken from this world way before his time (sam)
What I am trying to say is PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE live for what you have and for what you strive for, always look after yourself and try to live life to the fullest.
The sig I have now is a quote that my best mate used to use in another forum-based-site that we use to use constantly - he passed away last year in a motorcycle accident in th UK, however I will always remember him for this!
Come on everyone lifes too short!! :ride:

Sorry to hear about your sister. I hope you are coping with it and yes, it's never an easy thing!

But Maximus is right. You have to live your life. At various times I have tried to live without a bike, either to ride or to work on... It's not 'cause I can't, it's because I feel alive around them. Colours are brighter, the wind is sweeter and problems are minor with a fresh set of tyres and a full tank of gas..

I'm sorry Sam died but he will ride with the others at my shoulder for a while until it's my turn. I hope it's doing something I love. (family tradition, Mum died on the 5th green playing the second round of the final in the club champs at 72)

Live life as super pole. It's not a bloody warm up lap for something else OK!

mikey
2nd May 2005, 12:20
go nuts. go to hospital.

Maximus
2nd May 2005, 12:27
go nuts. go to hospital.

Mikey, one question, are you trying to be funny? . . . :confused:

Skunk
2nd May 2005, 12:30
Mikey, one question, are you trying to be funny? . . . :confused:
No, he is nuts... really. Honest.

Maximus
2nd May 2005, 12:32
No, he is nuts... really. Honest.

Cool, seems that my sense of humour has "gotten lost" somewhere today. Thank God for beer!

RiderInBlack
2nd May 2005, 12:45
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dyingReading that makes me sad.
Just some advise from someone who used to think like that. Change your thinking before it kills you. Thinking like this nearly ended my life. You always have the power to choose the way in how you feel about life. Noone else can do it for you. Life by the way is not "Out To Get You". Life just IS. Whether you enjoy it or not is up to YOU. Stop and take stock of all the things in life you have been lucky enough to have done. Do not dwell on the things you wish to have done but feel you are unable to. This just increases your self pity and does nothing that would improve your chances having the life you wish for.

You cann't alway get what you want,
But if you try, sometimes,
You Get What You Need!:Punk: (Good old Rolling Stones)

Maximus
2nd May 2005, 13:20
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

When I read this post it almost made me cry. Dude seriously if this is the way you feel then tell someone get some fucking help. Do you know what you will do to your friends/family if you did actually do something to end your life?! If you really feel this way get some help PLEASE.

Paul in NZ
2nd May 2005, 13:22
My old mum always said....

"Son. You can have anything and be anybody you want in life.... You just can't have everything you want."

In other words, ya gotta make some choices and learn to be happy inside them. Sure change your mind, no problems but focus on what you really really want...

I remember a couple a few years back that have 2 ferraris... The guy was just an ordinary joe but that wad their dream so they have done without nearly every little luxury in life to achieve it.... And they are happy...

Genuine depression is a nasty beast but I know the fuel it runs on. Envy and greed. If you want something and it is relatively sensible and you are prepared to do everything to get it... It can be done... Aint that fantastic!

As for life.... You live in an age of miracles.... Honestly, every day something else amazing happens. REJOICE in it and don't join the haters and joy suckers. We have too many of those as it is.... Look at me... I'm a type 1 diabetic. Less than a 100 years ago I would be dead right now.... Probably slowly and horribly... Thats a couple of generations.... Far out! I can think a zillion ways my life could be better but I can't forget that....

Go for it... Lifes a peach....

Lou Girardin
2nd May 2005, 14:44
Genuine depression is a nasty beast but I know the fuel it runs on. Envy and greed.

Not with clinical depression. The causes are internal not external. That's the insidious thing about depression, the feeling is inexplicable. Sometimes the sufferer doesn't even know why they feel so bad.

pyrocam
2nd May 2005, 14:56
Not with clinical depression. The causes are internal not external. That's the insidious thing about depression, the feeling is inexplicable. Sometimes the sufferer doesn't even know why they feel so bad.

a good night on the town to too much money in your pocket does quite well for me. I clicked bottle and ignore cos I thought you meant 'the bottle' but hey oh well. we all know alchohol isnt the way to solve problems, but it sure changes your perception of problem, taking your mind of it is hard sometimes and going out can help alleviate whatever your thinking about to the point when you forget that your meant to be depressed. and voila.

well. it works for me. in no way do I condone binge drinking in any shape or form to anyone.

jazbug5
2nd May 2005, 14:56
True that. Although in many ways what Paul says can be true for many, with 'genuine' depression, it ain't so. The least materialistic person I know is my father. He suffers from Bipolar; he (when ill) worries about the state of the world, not whether he has a flash car or not.

mikey
2nd May 2005, 15:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by alarumba
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

i dont read any suicidial ideation into that but......

lifes a shitter, full of shit.

when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving, right bitch life is. stuck in a shitter we are.

Motoracer
2nd May 2005, 15:18
i dont read any suicidial ideation into that but......

lifes a shitter, full of shit.

when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving, right bitch life is. stuck in a shitter we are.

Someone always has it worst off man. When you feel down and shit, you really have to look at others who are less fortunate and realise then maybe appreciate what you have.

Slipstream
2nd May 2005, 15:43
Someone always has it worst off man.

"....And for one moment, think about that last guy...no one has it worse than that guy...."

Sure it is from a Arlo Gutherie skit, but one day, I actually thought about that last guy.... what makes someone the last guy?
There are people who are financially worse off than me, but they are happier...just like I know some who are richer than me but I'm happier. I see some with no kids wishing they had my life and some that don't. I see some with more kids who wished they had my life and some that don't. There will always be someone worse off than you...but there will be always someone worse off than them too....

makes ya think....

mikey
2nd May 2005, 15:48
advice from my shrink



When you feel down and shit, .


take YOUR FUCKING PILLS

Zed
2nd May 2005, 15:49
...when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving...How most *spiritually profound* my fellow KB'r! :apumpin:

mikey
2nd May 2005, 15:57
How most *spiritually profound* my fellow KB'r! :apumpin:


want to come an get spritiual profoundment?

it involves motorbikes, policeman, trains, psychiatrists, an a good deal of mind altering substances

you either end up in loony bin or pushing diasies from 6 feet at taita cemetery

ManDownUnder
2nd May 2005, 16:00
When I feel down I tend to bottle it up... try to deal with it alone - and experience is eventually teaching me that's not a good thing to do.

I know I care a lot for the problems of others and I never fail to be amazed when thewy care for mine. It's a reciprocal thing - it works.

Talking through them, getting the perspective of another and getting rid of my own depressed/scared/angry blinkers is what is needed although there is a lot of truth in the fact that when you feel miserable... you actually want to stay miserable for a bit.

I think it's the brain's way of someone working through whatever it is...

Time heals all... wounds that are physical and mental (generally) lessen with time. I've been up, and I've been down.

I'm also been blessed to have a wife and friends that stand alongside me at every turn. I think it's part of the human condition really...

ahem... as you were...

ManDownUnder
2nd May 2005, 16:06
Other than that, as I was told the other night (and no I am not maori) "kia kaha, be strong, walk tall"

Not being Maori either - I didn't come across that phrase until I was into myt 30's... but the more I hear it, and understand it, the more I really like it.

MDU

Lou Girardin
3rd May 2005, 11:43
Not being Maori either - I didn't come across that phrase until I was into myt 30's... but the more I hear it, and understand it, the more I really like it.

MDU

Shame that their rates of mental illness are so high.
Walk tall, be strong is not the way to deal with it. Asking for help is a good start.

ManDownUnder
3rd May 2005, 12:21
Shame that their rates of mental illness are so high.
Walk tall, be strong is not the way to deal with it. Asking for help is a good start.

Agreed entirely... I always understood Kia Kaha was something you'd tell another... and by inference "I wish you well" and "know that I am with you"

Open to comment on it of course - keen to learn...

[edit] I googled it and found this - http://www.cambogolf.com/about_cambo/about_cambo_body_kia_kaha.htm

It's what I expected
MDU

Indiana_Jones
3rd May 2005, 12:28
The annoying thing about my life sometimes is my music taste, it's on another level then everyone else :whocares:
God how I long to meet someone who likes the same music as I :yes:

-Indy

vifferman
3rd May 2005, 12:36
Someone always has it worst off man. When you feel down and shit, you really have to look at others who are less fortunate and realise then maybe appreciate what you have.
I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.

Lou Girardin
3rd May 2005, 12:57
One thing is certain, life's terminal.

Hitcher
3rd May 2005, 13:04
One thing is certain, life's terminal.
A sexually-transmitted terminal disease.

Motoracer
3rd May 2005, 13:49
I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.

Oh ok, I was just trying to relate with Mikey by letting him know my way of dealing with my problems. He may have greater problems than myself by the sound of things but I thought it was a pretty good way of dealing with them, for most.

jazbug5
3rd May 2005, 14:04
People who've had close-up dealings with mental illness (whether their own or some close to them's illness) tend to be touchy about some kinds of advice, however well meant. Reason being, many people tend to underestimate how devastating it can be. Because the person is not suffering from any 'obvious' affliction (blood gushing everywhere etc), it's tempting to think that the problem is trivial, and that it's 'all in the mind', and that it's possible to simply reason your way out of it. Mental illness is not due to the sufferer being incapable of seeing beyond their own 'selfish issues'. All too often, the sufferer actually dwells upon their own perceived faults, their own 'selfishness' in being incapable of rising above the awful thoughts they are afflicted with.
If you haven't been ill yourself, or had experience of it close up, it's easy to be hurtful, even with the best of intentions. You shouldn't be put off talking with someone about how they feel, though; just don't be offended if they are touchy and tell you you couldn't possibly understand.
Sorry, just my 2c.

Motoracer
3rd May 2005, 14:09
People who've had close-up dealings with mental illness (whether their own or some close to them's illness) tend to be touchy about some kinds of advice, however well meant. Reason being, many people tend to underestimate how devastating it can be. Because the person is not suffering from any 'obvious' affliction (blood gushing everywhere etc), it's tempting to think that the problem is trivial, and that it's 'all in the mind', and that it's possible to simply reason your way out of it. Mental illness is not due to the sufferer being incapable of seeing beyond their own 'selfish issues'. All too often, the sufferer actually dwells upon their own perceived faults, their own 'selfishness' in being incapable of rising above the awful thoughts they are afflicted with.
If you haven't been ill yourself, or had experience of it close up, it's easy to be hurtful, even with the best of intentions. You shouldn't be put off talking with someone about how they feel, though; just don't be offended if they are touchy and tell you you couldn't possibly understand.
Sorry, just my 2c.

Thank you for clearing that up Jaz :niceone:

pommie girl
3rd May 2005, 14:35
There's a ridiculously alarming statistic that something like 1 in 4 NZ women suffer from depression and yet awareness of this condition amongst us is so low. This is definitely something that people should talk about, get rid of the taboo's and come round to understanding and supporting.

Zed
3rd May 2005, 17:26
I know you are trying to help, MR, and that you have the best intentions, but unfortunately pop psychology and platitudes don't work, except maybe for those who just need a minor attitude adjustment.

I wouldn't wish mental illness on my worst enemy's dog.I had typed a paragraph and was about to reply to your post earlier today but decided against it, so I deleted it...Ian, this may or may not be good for you to hear, but you criticising MR's encouraging post here wasn't necessary. It's obvious that you and Sudeep *think* differently so why don't you just let him have his opinion. You could have presented 'your' opinion in a far more gracious manner...for this is a time for graciousness.

I like you, and despite any comments I've made to you in the past, I would rather you come back to KB full-time if you so desired, than to be without the camp.


Zed

Ixion
3rd May 2005, 17:30
One thing is certain, life's terminal.

Well, no actually, it's not. But I won't labour the point :yes:

Storm
3rd May 2005, 17:45
Are you getting all deep and meaningful/Zen like ?
(I'm confused by the last post)

Hitcher
3rd May 2005, 17:46
Well, no actually, it's not. But I won't labour the point
Take it to the Scottish thread...

Storm
3rd May 2005, 17:54
Ahhh, so its one of THOSE ones. Thank you Mr H for clearing that up :niceone:

Coyote
3rd May 2005, 18:08
Shit, you think I'm suicidal?! Holy Crap no! Why kill myself when I'm not the problem, and other people are? And I wanna become a MotoGP rider, and that’s far more important than my happiness at this time anyway

And no, I'm not gonna go on a killing spree... but I might take a paintball/BB gun to school sometime

Lou Girardin
4th May 2005, 09:07
Well, no actually, it's not. But I won't labour the point :yes:

Please labour it. I'd like immortality. But only if I can revert to looking about 35.

ManDownUnder
4th May 2005, 15:24
A sexually-transmitted terminal disease.

Yup - it's like diarrhoea - it's hereditary... it must be



It runs in your jeans *DA-BOOM TSSSSHHH*

... oh c'mon - that was my best joke...

Storm
4th May 2005, 15:54
:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme


























(I've used it myself before)

Ramius
4th May 2005, 16:26
Just remember, the answer is 42.

Sorry, but because their were 8 pages to read through, I took the time to skip ahead.

My philosophy is to bottle it all up, that way, when finally you implode taking all your workmates with you, you can reduce yourself to a blabbering idiot and claim the insanity defence and get placed in a hospital for 6 months.

Usually most things that are bugging me get resolved when I am in lala land on the tablets I take. Hallucinations, lovely things...

Biff
4th May 2005, 22:40
Ahhh, you'd be getting confused - they only seem to do mock tudor over here - we have the real thing :yes: Obviously you haven't been to a bar in central auckland - stuck up service, limited beer selection and overpriced food. Gotta love it!

Not me mate - I'm a fellow Brit - and I know plenty of mock Tudor pubs that I used to frequent back in the UK. Although the only time I've ever been to Auckland is when I've had to fly in and out of the airport.