View Full Version : 2004 MV BRUTALE S - Any tips/suggestions?
greminn
16th March 2009, 16:54
Hi There,
Im looking at a 2004 MV Agusta BRUTALE S, which has done 14,000ks and is to my eyes mint condition. It is thru a dealer and he is going to offer me a fantastic trade on my honda-ratee.
My question is: Is there anything i should be looking out for with this bike? Any tips or hints at all so i can at least fake it with the dealer that i know something?
Up until now a new Tri Street Triple R has been top of the list for the first big bike purchase in a month... This is the first bike I have seen that would change that. (its also cheaper than the striple by a chunk - not that that is an issue here).
Comments are very welcome.
Thanks
Simon
MotoGirl
16th March 2009, 17:05
Hi There,
Im looking at a 2004 MV Agusta BRUTALE S, which has done 14,000ks and is to my eyes mint condition. It is thru a dealer and he is going to offer me a fantastic trade on my honda-ratee.
My question is: Is there anything i should be looking out for with this bike? Any tips or hints at all so i can at least fake it with the dealer that i know something?
Up until now a new Tri Street Triple R has been top of the list for the first big bike purchase in a month... This is the first bike I have seen that would change that. (its also cheaper than the striple by a chunk - not that that is an issue here).
Comments are very welcome.
Thanks
Simon
I understand these bikes can be difficult to sell so my only advice is to make sure you're up to having a very long relationship with it.
greminn
16th March 2009, 17:15
I understand these bikes can be difficult to sell so my only advice is to make sure you're up to having a very long relationship with it.
Yes... That is an issue (why is that?) - Where as the striple would be prob pretty easy to sell in 3+ years if you were realistic about the price.
MotoGirl
16th March 2009, 17:20
Yes... That is an issue (why is that?) - Where as the striple would be prob pretty easy to sell in 3+ years if you were realistic about the price.
People who buy MVs tend to buy them new rather than second hand. It might be something to do with pedigree, i.e. it's not the same as buying a used Duc? There are a lot of other good bikes for the same sort of money you'd have to spend on a used MV.
Personally, I'd go the triumph because circumstances change and I wouldn't want to get caught with a bike I couldn't get rid of.
JimO
16th March 2009, 18:56
finn has one for sale dont he
Grumpy
16th March 2009, 19:16
The Brutale is my favourite naked bike out there. I took one for a ride and fell in love. I've also ridden a Street Triple ( standard model) and that was fucken awesome as well.
If I had to choose I would prob go with the triple. As fantastic as the Brutale is, the triple seems to be a easier bike to maintain. I had a chat with a mechanic about the maintance cost on the MV and his comments lead me to believe they weren't cheap to get work done on them.
Both bikes are excellent but I think the earlier comment about resale is a very good point.
McDuck
16th March 2009, 19:40
Just crash it when you want rid of it....
greminn
16th March 2009, 19:54
The Brutale is my favourite naked bike out there. I took one for a ride and fell in love. I've also ridden a Street Triple ( standard model) and that was fucken awesome as well.
If I had to choose I would prob go with the triple. As fantastic as the Brutale is, the triple seems to be a easier bike to maintain. I had a chat with a mechanic about the maintance cost on the MV and his comments lead me to believe they weren't cheap to get work done on them.
Both bikes are excellent but I think the earlier comment about resale is a very good point.
Yea - understand where you are coming from. If i had the cash and didnt care about it, a new Brutale would be in my garage right now, stuff the costs - i wouldnt care.
But the 17k for the Street Triple is my top dollar and then once i sell the Honda, i'll be able to get a couple of bits and pieces for it (belly pan, etc). So then im really outlaying 20k right? (those damm cool arrows are like $2400!! - but they sound SOOOOO GOOD!)
But when i saw the MV in the shop today... its like. Fark that is COOL, and with my trade, its $10k cash outlay, $14500 total. Anyway... guy said: take it for a ride, take it overnight... so i will.
Which do you recon would be the better handling bike?
When i saw the Street Triple R for the first time i said: That is the GO, I want one.
kiwifruit
16th March 2009, 20:08
Beautiful bike. Questionable reliability.
MVnut
16th March 2009, 21:16
Buy the Brutale. Okay so I'm biased, but the MV is the best bike you'll get for that sort of money. Is it NZ new or an import (service history)???... and they are not difficult or expensive to work on. The best handling naked bike on the planet, bar none. If you can afford Finn's 910R it's worth the extra money.
greminn
16th March 2009, 21:48
Buy the Brutale. Okay so I'm biased, but the MV is the best bike you'll get for that sort of money. Is it NZ new or an import (service history)???... and they are not difficult or expensive to work on. The best handling naked bike on the planet, bar none. If you can afford Finn's 910R it's worth the extra money.
Thanks for the reply, I'll query the guy tomorow about it... How much a fins?
EJK
16th March 2009, 21:58
Was around $18,000 last time I looked
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1767412&postcount=11
Could be cheaper by higher kms?
nallac
17th March 2009, 06:41
you need to talk to Doc, hes got a Brutale and will be able to tell ya all about em...got a hell of a shock we he told me what it has cost him per week to own.....
I'd buy one over the triumph any day, absolute sex on wheels............:love:
go on buy it and make us all green with envy.....
greminn
17th March 2009, 07:28
you need to talk to Doc, hes got a Brutale and will be able to tell ya all about em...got a hell of a shock we he told me what it has cost him per week to own.....
I'd buy one over the triumph any day, absolute sex on wheels............:love:
go on buy it and make us all green with envy.....
Yea - thats it isnt it...
The triumph is the better "head" option right? Its new, its wicked, is the best in its class bacially. Its got a warranty. It would be more than enough for me for a while (going from a VTR250!). Its a head turner... (but for how long?)
Where as the Brutale (750S or the 910R) is "heart" option. And do you pass up the opportunity to own something truly great? Its also going still be a MV in 3 years.
Mate of mine has a 2003 MV Agusta F4-750 S, uses it pretty much every day to go to work for gods sake! But absolulty swears is the best thing you can do by yourself.
Ahh.. a conundrum. I think its time to test.
TripleZee Dyno
17th March 2009, 07:31
Hi There,
Im looking at a 2004 MV Agusta BRUTALE S, which has done 14,000ks and is to my eyes mint condition. It is thru a dealer and he is going to offer me a fantastic trade on my honda-ratee.
My question is: Is there anything i should be looking out for with this bike? Any tips or hints at all so i can at least fake it with the dealer that i know something?
Up until now a new Tri Street Triple R has been top of the list for the first big bike purchase in a month... This is the first bike I have seen that would change that. (its also cheaper than the striple by a chunk - not that that is an issue here).
Comments are very welcome.
Thanks
Simon
My 2 cents, buy an MV because you want one.
Dont bother factoring in resale value, servicing costs, fuel economy, comfort, reliability, etc etc because if these are going to be factors in your decision then buy something else.
Mr Spock would never own an MV
cheers
doc
17th March 2009, 19:39
My 2 cents, buy an MV because you want one.
Dont bother factoring in resale value, servicing costs, fuel economy, comfort, reliability, etc etc because if these are going to be factors in your decision then buy something else.
Mr Spock would never own an MV
cheers
Exactly. Never would have bought one without KB'r :crybaby:. Liked the look of one for some reason. Not able to see one cos not many around. "Beyond' mentioned in some thread that they looked better in the flesh. Looked at one with a fellow KB'r :bash: . Fark I was hooked. She said yes that night :gob:, fellow KB'r fu.cked off back to Iraq security job next day, cos he prefered that to facing my now ex. Dems the breaks in life "but I still luv my bike" :sunny: Fruity will also tell you what they are like. It's an experience that is different than anything else you can ride.
greminn
18th March 2009, 07:57
Thanks for all the feedback and thoughts people. Im going to have a ride of the 750S as soon as the weather clears and at some stage skoot over to BayRide to have a chat with Chris about them.
Then if/when i can, ill shoot up to AKLs and have a little chat with Finn.
Ill let you know my thoughts.
Thanks again
Simon
greminn
19th March 2009, 07:39
Well - i took the Brutale 750 S for a good spin last night.
The riding position was acually quite comfortable as im not overy tall and have shortish legs.. i found the seat quite comfortable as well. Took it and did some round town mucking round which was a bit of a hoot... the thing really makes you want to show it off (its that good looking), everyone looks at you. The guy at the local mobile (who is a young guy with a 250 - as apposed to me an old guy with a 250) eyes bugged out and came out to serve me! ha! Didnt end up serving me just standing there, eyes still bugging out.
Round to a mates to show off, he said he wanted to root the exhaust. (well - not quite in those words).
Well, 6pm came round... over to the Oak and back for a real test, thru town and out route K to head up the kaimais... twist the throttle... OH FUCK ME THE NOISE!! :devil2: I cant believe the way thing thing sounds! I havnt really got to appreciate my mates F4-750 S as there is no freakin way he would let me ride it, but i just didnt understand the intoxication of the damm noise from the thing... Oh and it goes alright too :niceone:
The thing is def a revver, as in high gear there is really nothing at low revs except the sound of petrol and air getting sucked, but once the revs get up... well, there is no way i could take it to top revs, i would have to have a lot of riding on it to feel confident enough to do that, and as Chirs from bayride said: Track Days, Track Days, Track Days.
Man those brakes are something wicked and as im not a lite guy, the suspension, tho pretty rock solid, felt really sweet! On the open road the handling just feels abolsulty MINT, like its on rails round the corners - not that i pushed it very far at all (not being my bike and all), but you can just feel the potential to get down on the corners.
It was really hard to keep at a constant speed on the open road, the thing either wants you to go faster (99%) OR stop and switch it off (1%).
Overall impression: Intoxicating, Amazing, Hard Work (but i didnt care).
Well, its raining here this morning, so i will guess it will enjoy sitting in the cage park a little more... will return it later this morning :(
How much better is the 910R i wonder....
EDIT: Here is a little thing, the headlight is REALLY good at night, sprays light all over the road to the left and right of you as well as a good way in front. Smart design there.
Winston001
19th March 2009, 08:27
My 2 cents, buy an MV because you want one.
Dont bother factoring in resale value, servicing costs, fuel economy, comfort, reliability, etc etc because if these are going to be factors in your decision then buy something else.
Mr Spock would never own an MV
I think this says it all. If you feel you are a rider who wants a special bike which you'll cherish and gives you that indescribable frisson of ownership, buy it. If instead you are already thinking about your next bike and when you'd sell the MV, chose the Street Triple.
I bought my Duke to scratch an itch, a hankering, curiosity. Good decision. For me it's sex on wheels. But not everyone sees that. No problem, the fun thing about bikes is our emotional responses to them. The heart has as much place as the brain. My mates have bought V-Stroms. Extremely logical, very Dr Spokish bikes which just make me all the happier with a Duke.
Go with your heart. :yes:
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