WOF Question

[Str8 Jacket]

Does your speedo have to be working in order for your bike to gain a WoF?

[yungatart]

Yes!
Mind you, it does not have to be accurate....

[Trudes]

I don't know how or if they checked mine at VTNZ.... they checked the Kilometres done, so as long as it's still showing that... might be worth a shot. I'm sure someone will have a theory on how they would check it, but they never rode my bike, so not sure how they'd know if the speedo was working or not.

[sunhuntin]

when they put the front wheel on that spinny thing [dunno what its called, lol] doesnt that make the speedo go? ive done it once, but wasnt looking at the speedo at the time so dont know.

[Nasty]

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/certifiers/virm-in-service-wof-only/motorcycles-07-v3.pdf

Imperative that it does work.

[Str8 Jacket]

.... they checked the Kilometres done, so as long as it's still showing that... might be worth a shot.

Hmm, not sure that mine is even reading the odometer ATM. That could be a dead give away, doh! Can't check right now either as Malcolm using it...

[Katman]

The WOF manual says - 'The speedometer must be in good working order and operate while the vehicle is moving forward'.

The road test (that ALL issuing authorities should perform) is the easiest way of checking it's operation.

[Str8 Jacket]

Cheers guy's, as I thought...

It's nice to be right sometimes ;)

[MSTRS]

The road test (that ALL issuing authorities should perform) ...

But don't...
I'd assume that wof issuing garages do, but the likes of OnRoad and VTNZ certainly don't. I'd also assume that the brake machine (the rollers with the fluid level/brake force readout) used for cars will show the speedo to be working, but it's not used for bikes.

[FROSTY]

But don't...
I'd assume that wof issuing garages do, but the likes of OnRoad and VTNZ certainly don't. I'd also assume that the brake machine (the rollers with the fluid level/brake force readout) used for cars will show the speedo to be working, but it's not used for bikes.
I did that once for shitts n giggles.--Um there was a fair bit of --OHHH SHIIIT and not a lot of giggles. Sok as the thing winds up--not so cool when it suddenly stops cos guess whch way it spits ya out ?

[Str8 Jacket]

I'd assume that wof issuing garages do, but the likes of OnRoad and VTNZ certainly don't.

So what happens if I am pulled up for speeding and tell the cops that I have no speedo are they going to ask who issued the warrant? What liability does the like of say On Road or VTNZ carry, assuming they passed the bike without a working speedo.

Note: I would also expect to receive a ticket for speeding but that's not what im trying to ascertain...

[Trudes]

But don't...
I'd assume that wof issuing garages do, but the likes of OnRoad and VTNZ certainly don't. I'd also assume that the brake machine (the rollers with the fluid level/brake force readout) used for cars will show the speedo to be working, but it's not used for bikes.
Exactly! What is supposed to happen doesn't always. Nobody road tested my bike at VTNZ and there were no rollers used either.

So what happens if I am pulled up for speeding and tell the cops that I have no speedo are they going to ask who issued the warrant? What liability does the like of say On Road or VTNZ carry, assuming they passed the bike without a working speedo.

Note: I would also expect to receive a ticket for speeding but that's not what im trying to ascertain...

The speedo on my Hornet is well out due to the different sprocket on the front, it was out before we did that anyway, so if I get caught speeding and say, "well, my speedo was reading 100" and I got clocked doing 120... same thing? Nobody checked my speedo at VTNZ and I assume it wasn't checked the warrant before that either unless you're allowed to have a speedo that's out by about 10-20 kmph.

[JimO]

The WOF manual says - 'The speedometer must be in good working order and operate while the vehicle is moving forward'.

The road test (that ALL issuing authorities should perform) is the easiest way of checking it's operation.

never had a tester road test my bikes

[YAMASAKI]

you could always look at an aftermarket speedo. I've got one of these and they're fantastic... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Handlebars/auction-208686240.htm

you can adjust them for different wheel diameters and get top speeds etc. great for track days :D
plus they've got digital engine temp, tacho, air temp and more. I rate them very highly :2thumbsup

[MSTRS]

So what happens if I am pulled up for speeding and tell the cops that I have no speedo are they going to ask who issued the warrant? What liability does the like of say On Road or VTNZ carry, assuming they passed the bike without a working speedo.

Note: I would also expect to receive a ticket for speeding but that's not what im trying to ascertain...

One would assume that they would say it was working at the time the wof was issued.
And even if a speedo is checked to be working, it is not checked for accuracy.

[BMWST?]

you are responsible for ensuring your bike remains in WOF condition at all times....

[Str8 Jacket]

One would assume that they would say it was working at the time the wof was issued.
And even if a speedo is checked to be working, it is not checked for accuracy.

Yeah, good point.
I hate electric dashes, I dont even have the rev counter to help me out... Not a major to fix though.

[Str8 Jacket]

you are responsible for ensuring your bike remains in WOF condition at all times....

REALLY?!? I thought that's what men were for? :confused:

[Trudes]

you are responsible for ensuring your bike remains in WOF condition at all times....

How do I know if my speedo is out though?

[MSTRS]

REALLY?!? I thought that's what men were for? :confused:

No no... men are useless at that sort of thing. What you are thinking of is Men.

[Str8 Jacket]

How do I know if my speedo is out though?

Get a man too look at it, duh!

[Trudes]

Get a man too look at it, duh!

Many men look at my dials, still hasn't helped with my speeding though!:shutup:

[MSTRS]

How do I know if my speedo is out though?

If it is out, there are 2 possibilities...
Reading high...everyone is passing you
Reading low...you have lots of demerits

[Karl@Alpha]

Odd little note...
The speedo has to be working, however, if the speedo has been removed for repair the WoF will still be issued as long as you have corosponding paper work showing that it is being fixed.

[quallman1234]

I hear you can get away with a push bike one? :Playnice:

[YAMASAKI]

I hear you can get away with a push bike one? :Playnice:

yes you can, but it's hard to find one that goes over 100kph :whistle:

[Str8 Jacket]

yes you can, but it's hard to find one that goes over 100kph :whistle:

You could almost say the same thing about the FXR! :laugh:

[Karl@Alpha]

We dont take them to 100kph, bout 40 max... so a pushbike one is a pass.

[Sidewinder]

Does your speedo have to be working in order for your bike to gain a WoF?

yup it does other wise you wouldnt have to have one would you!

[Str8 Jacket]

yup it does other wise you wouldnt have to have one would you!

Yaha, I like *totally* agree!

I just had a "discussion" with someone this morning and they told me that the speedo didn't have to be in working order... I thought it did but I kind of got my hopes up, for about 30 seconds.

[Karl@Alpha]

99% of the time its a broken cable, Motion Pro do a universal cable kit for about $40

[Skunk]

Important note on using pushbike speedos...

The speedo must work, be accurate AND have a light so it can be read at night. DAMHIK.

[Katman]

never had a tester road test my bikes

I wouldn't let the plonkers that work at Onroad or VTNZ ride my bike either.

But then, I wouldn't take my bike to an issuing agency that didn't have someone working there that I could trust to ride my bike. (It's great being able to do my own WOFs). :2thumbsup

If anyone brings their bike to me for a WOF but refuses to let me road test it, I refuse to carry out the WOF inspection.

[Dooly]

If anyone brings their bike to me for a WOF and refuses to let me road test, I refuse to carry out the WOF inspection.

Yup, same here.
Take a hike..........
I always tell them before the inspection that I will be riding it, and is there a problem with that.
No probs yet.

Plus its good to ride a variety of bikes.:yes:

[Karl@Alpha]

Had one that wouldent let me ride it...
Refused to hand the key over, said I could do it without it and stormed out of the workshop!
So I failed everything I couldent test (horn, lights, ect dont work) and charged him $40.
Easy $40 for the boss and he didnt come back! :done:

[Dooly]

Had one that wouldent let me ride it...
Refused to hand the key over, said I could do it without it and stormed out of the workshop!
So I failed everything I couldent test (horn, lights, ect dont work) and charged him $40.
Easy $40 for the boss and he didnt come back! :done:

Haha if they dont go when you test it.........:lol:

[sunhuntin]

ive always gone to the aa for my WOF, and none of my bikes have ever been ridden on the road. the most of theyve done is go back a little ways and then forwards to test the brakes. i dont know that that counts?

[Dooly]

ive always gone to the aa for my WOF, and none of my bikes have ever been ridden on the road. the most of theyve done is go back a little ways and then forwards to test the brakes. i dont know that that counts?

Yeah its funny that.

I'm a bike and light vehicle (car) AVI, (authorised vehicle inspector).

We are meant to test drive the vehicles. When we get our audit and checks from the LTSA inspectors part of their test on us is with us in cars.
You can pick up so many safety features on cars & bikes by driving them, especially in the brakes, suspension areas.
How the testing stations get away with not even driving them is bizarre, and when I've questioned the LTSA guy about that he really has no answer except to say, thats how its been with them, and he agrees its not the best but nothing is done etc etc.

Myself if I was not in this field would want a AVI to ride/drive my vehicles so I know that all is well safety wise.

Not all inspectors are looking for work on failing WOFs.
Some are of course..............

[YAMASAKI]

Myself if I was not in this field would want a AVI to ride/drive my vehicles so I know that all is well safety wise.


I agree, things can get worse over time and if you're riding day in day out you may not notice. Yet if someone else jumps on they can tell instantly if something isn't right and needs investigation... that is if they know anything about bikes. Hence the reason i steer clear of VTNZ testing stations and go to people who actually know what they're doing.

[my_r32]

Myself if I was not in this field would want a AVI to ride/drive my vehicles so I know that all is well safety wise.
I agree, things can get worse over time and if you're riding day in day out you may not notice. Yet if someone else jumps on they can tell instantly if something isn't right and needs investigation... that is if they know anything about bikes. Hence the reason i steer clear of VTNZ testing stations and go to people who actually know what they're doing.
I'm the same here. Especially on a motorbike. You dont want something that has been slowly wearing away to all of a sudden 'go' when you are riding.... could be the difference of not going home again that night:no:

As for the speedo, if its on the bike/vehicle its supposed to be working to get a WoF

[Number One]

I was surprised to find recently that you don't need to have working hazard lights for a WOF.

[YAMASAKI]

I was surprised to find recently that you don't need to have working hazard lights for a WOF.

I don't think any of my bikes have had hazard lights... :confused:

[Number One]

I don't think any of my bikes have had hazard lights... :confused:
Well mine does and it used to work but now magically it doesn't and the guys at the shop said something about 2 phase indicator where the others are 3 phase or some such...again though it WAS working before...

Anywho not critical but I thought if I had them they should be operational to get a WOF - just as well not needed!

[Str8 Jacket]

Suzuki electrics eh! :rolleyes:

[Number One]

Suzuki electrics eh! :rolleyes:
OMG don't start me! :2guns: