Another @ on Tard Me- This time an RD04

[Eddieb]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-208577407.htm

dribble dribble

[buggsubique]

mate your previous thread lives on! it's all in there from the man himself. good lookin bike.

[junkmanjoe]

i feel you should buy this bike eddie, if you could touch the ground..
:2thumbsup

[Eddieb]

My names Eddie and I'm an ADV bike addict. Especially @'s and airheads.

I hadn't checked the other thread in a day or 2, hadn't seen that.

[pampa]

how much does tarme pay as a parttime salesman? :blink:



http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-208577407.htm

dribble dribble

[igor]

hey Eddie

someone sent me a link to some pics of you doing Thompsons track in Waikato. that was funny. did it on me bike 10 years ago. looks like it got easier

[Eddieb]

how much does tarme pay as a parttime salesman? :blink:


Not enough to buy all the bikes I'm drooling over

[Eddieb]

hey Eddie

someone sent me a link to some pics of you doing Thompsons track in Waikato. that was funny. did it on me bike 10 years ago. looks like it got easier

yah, I'm world famous in NZ. Which pics, in the dry or when it was a bit wet?

[igor]

yah, I'm world famous in NZ. Which pics, in the dry or when it was a bit wet?

its always wet up there

[Eddieb]

its always wet up there

Yeah but the depth varies considerably. The link in my signature has a few on the wettest trip up there and thats the easy side from Te Aroha not the KatiKati side, plus other tracks.

[igor]

Yeah but the depth varies considerably. The link in my signature has a few on the wettest trip up there and thats the easy side from Te Aroha not the KatiKati side, plus other tracks.

the back wheel was solid when i left and had the cyclinders under at one stage

[Eddieb]

the back wheel was solid when i left and had the cyclinders under at one stage

Yep, had the same on the G/S, not solid mud though.

[thepom]

The man know,s his africa twin as he has done all the modification,s.....mine looks the same but is a munter......:doctor:

[Padmei]

OMG Marks there's an Igor on kiwibiker - people will get the wrong idea:shutup:

[JATZ]

OMG Marks there's an Igor on kiwibiker - people will get the wrong idea:shutup:

You could set your lions onto him :dodge:

I could just see you riding that @ :laugh:

[Padmei]

I want that farking @ & Mrs Jatz Tenere & a cool airhead... I kinda wish I didn't buy a new bike now...


Wait I know - something yous guys have never thought of...

Lotto lotto lotto:2thumbsup

[JATZ]

I want that farking @ & Mrs Jatz Tenere & a cool airhead... I kinda wish I didn't buy a new bike now...


Wait I know - something yous guys have never thought of...

Lotto lotto lotto:2thumbsup

Yip.... @ + an old r80. (and a bigger shed) + the ct

[Padmei]

Yip.... @ + an old r80. (and a bigger shed) + the ct

Now you're just getting greedy - the CT is too much for one man not enough for two...

[Paladin]

Now you're just getting greedy - the CT is too much for one man not enough for two...

I think Jatz should bring the mighty CT over for the King Country ride! :msn-wink:

[warewolf]

Reckon he's dreaming on the price. The later model one with 50,000km less went through a dealer at 6K - which means this one should be more like 3.5K not 6.5K.

[XRVrider]

Um nice maths? Spose it comes down to condition and history, the last @ for sale was in worse condition for starters. If you know @'s kms aint a big factor. Time wiil tell, and people are definitely interested.

[warewolf]

Um nice maths? Spose it comes down to condition and history, the last @ for sale was in worse condition for starters. If you know @'s kms aint a big factor. Time wiil tell, and people are definitely interested.Qué? I understood the one at thunderbike was a minter, much newer and much lower kays. If a dealer got 6, privately it would only fetch 4-ish. Then this one is older (nearly 20 years!) with 2-3 times the mileage...

[XRVrider]

I believe the ad stated that it had been offroaded a bit and had a few battlescars from this, or words to that effect. It was a 1996 so 6 years newer but still 13 years old. Had less extras and worn condition.

[XRVrider]

read somewhere in here that the thunderbike dealer said reckons he couldve got another grand. So really I think the RD04 ts priced almost right, but thats just my opinion, others may disagree. Cheers

[dmc]

Its not bad but probably should be mid 5's, I wouldn't compare it to a RD07 as the RD04 is better offroad and alot of people will be looking for an RD04 over the RD07.
I sold mine for mid 5's and it had panniers, Arrow pipe and was the hard to get black one, I probably sold it too cheap as I had a bidding war going on but it went to a good home so I was happy, I can't remember how much my mate got for his newer RD07 but it wasn't a hell of alot more than my RD04.

If your buying an @ I wouldn't recommend the RD07, not that it is a bad bike as it still was way better offroad than the BMW my mate sold to get the RD07 but the RD04 feels totally different when you ride them back to back, the RD07 feels small and kind of flimsy, just a little to much road not enough offroad.

Then again you could just get a KTM and the @ will become an fond memory :msn-wink:

[BMWST?]

was way better offroad than the BMW my mate sold to get the RD07

and that BMW was?

[dmc]

An 1100, 19 front vs 21 front @ wins.

Even tho they are close in weight the @ seemed to carry its weight better offroad and when it got loose the 21 was alot easier.

[warewolf]

read somewhere in here that the thunderbike dealer said reckons he couldve got another grand. So really I think the RD04 ts priced almost right, but thats just my opinion, others may disagree. Fair enough, factor that in and even by my conservative maths you're talking 5-ish. 6 gives some room to negotiate.

[buggsubique]

Well, without wanting to jinx the whole deal, the bike should be here on Tuesday morning c/o Motorcycle movers.

Been bikeless too long already (haha) so it will be good to learn to ride again on the @. I will certainly be needing to change my riding style me thinks, but looking forward to a nicer ride on the road than the DR-Z offered, along with double the range and the ability to carry a bit of gear! might travel the '10 DB1K in a bit more comfort and style next year!

Think I'll miss the trail bike side of things a bit, but hey there's always plenty of DR-Z's around, not so many of these though.

Two thumbs up :niceone: to XRV Rider aka Blair for his assistance so far in bringing this bike to the mainland - thanks Blair, will keep you posted.

Oh, and if anyone comes upon a cheapish TA tank, drop me a pm.

[Eddieb]

Well, without wanting to jinx the whole deal, the bike should be here on Tuesday morning c/o Motorcycle movers.
.

Well done that man.

We'll be expecting pics and a run in review Tuesday night then.

[Padmei]

Good on ya bubbs. I'm glad it's local so I know where to pinch it from..(oops I mean see it occasionally on outings..)
Don't go mental on it - yet.

[buggsubique]

oh no, much too treasured to be going mental on it ... yet. That said, I'll find the limits of this 200kg+ machine I'm sure. Once my pocket money pays her off I might be finding myself wandering back to my roots...we'll see... but for the forseeable future, she'll remain mostly as-is but with some offroadable tyres.

Padwan, I've got a spare one in the shed for you...just a little smaller. :hug:

[Padmei]

oh no, much too treasured to be going mental on it ... yet. That said, I'll find the limits of this 200kg+ machine I'm sure. Once my pocket money pays her off I might be finding myself wandering back to my roots...we'll see... but for the forseeable future, she'll remain mostly as-is but with some offroadable tyres.

Padwan, I've got a spare one in the shed for you...just a little smaller. :hug:


Oh you tricker!
That bike looks beaut - as for mine... Do you think I could fit a full size screen on that?

[buggsubique]

the bigger one's a custom - Italians are big on em and often cut the body up for a more off rd / big trailbike look.

Not sure about the screen on the little one - motor might struggle to overcome the drag. I think you could do 2-up though.

[BMWST?]

the bigger one's a custom - Italians are big on em and often cut the body up for a more off rd / big trailbike look.

Not sure about the screen on the little one - motor might struggle to overcome the drag. I think you could do 2-up though.

well done was pretty keen on that myself!

[buggsubique]

hey thanks, sorry if I cut yer grass... if it wasn't that I think it was gunna be back to another DR-Z if I couldn't get a cheapish XR 650 R, but yeah sold the DR-Z to wait for one of these to come along...

[Underground]

Welcome into the fold Buggsy , I knew you had it in you , drop round and we'll see if we can do some jumps on it .

[buggsubique]

Easy there wise one who will educate me in the ways of the XRV!

...although apparently they can be done... Can they be landed too? :pinch:

Will be way keen for a ride. Have Army stuff in Nelson next sat so if I ride over I'll pop in on the way home..if yer round and depending what time etc blah.

[JATZ]

Well done there Buggs, I woulda gone and picked it up for ya, ya only needed to ask

[Underground]

Have Army stuff in Nelson next sat so if I ride over I'll pop in on the way home..if yer round and depending what time etc blah.

Forget the army stuff (see my post in Nelson rideouts) no ones going to start a war theres a recession you know

[XRVrider]

Cheers matt.

Glad the bike is going to a good home. Yep they can get off the ground, but it takes a fair ramp... never tried it before though, honest ;-) Hope you get as much pleasure out of it as I did. Favourite bike by far, and might find it hard to let go tomorrow.

It'll be really good on long trips, just keep any weight carried on the back low or you get steering wobble. These love winding roads, if there's a few bumps as well you'll leave most bikers behind. Have fun mate, all the best.

[buggsubique]

Well she's here and parked up in the garage...after two test rides in as many hours. Whoppin big bike compared to what I used to ride. The weight I felt making it want to oversteer. Slight adjustment of the bars for a bit more height and forward positioning puts her a bit more like I'm used to. Bit of a vibration going through 4-4.5k rpm, but shed loads of pull and stable as hell on the road. New tyres on the cards to survive winter tho and help hold it upright!

Ride and farkling reports to follow!

B

[Padmei]

Good on ya son

[Underground]

Good stuff Buggs , you will most definately need bar risers to get a comfortable standing position ,I rolled mine as far foreward as possible and its about right for me .
Oh and if it doesnt have already ,shout it some 10w fork oil (cheapest and most effective mod available)

[buggsubique]

Well here she is, in all her early 90's colours, ha.

It's taken a bit of getting used to like I said, but I think I cracked it tonight when I took her off road in one my the local river beds (with bald road tyres, yikes).

Kinda a bit twitchy to start with, but often speed helps smooth out the bumps so fang it I did and she really came alive. Very responsive to the wrist, suspension plush enough to take the small drop offs and ruts (will put 10W in the front end though). So yeah, short answer was "ride it like a trailbike"....albeit a 220kg one.

Picked up zeRax and went for a spin 2up, piece of cake.

Required mods as time and $ allow:

-replace fork oil
-new gravel biased tyres
-new shock boots
-75 to 100w bulbs if I can find the right replacements or custom up a standard set. (who the f*ck specifies 35W bulbs up front!?!?? esp with the 360W alt)
-new bar risers and alloy high rise bar
-cut windscreen down (currently throws it straight into your face, v noisy).
-fault check / replace temp guage
-refoam & recover seat


Ideal mods down the track

-remove all stock fairings and plastics, slim & trim it all down with aluminium side plates and rear fender (need to relocate coolant overflow tank)
-remove front fairing and all its claggage and rewire to a trailtech vapor & dash.
-custom dual headlights, cutdown plastic front fender onto lower clamp
-Swap out stock tank for smaller XLV tank, custom fab rad shrouds / braces.

Keep all the stock stuff, but basically trim the fat off the girl.

So yeah, bugger I won't be around for the twin peaks this sat, but hopefully get over Nelsin way soon for a decent haul!

Cheers, B

[Paladin]

Massive congrats Buggs!!! Looks like a super bike!

With all those mods lined up yous is gonna be a busy boy for a while!

Bloody brilliant mate!

:clap::clap::clap:

[buggsubique]

Cheers Dave,

like you know, always good to get a new toy! mods will be a long time coming, gotta stick with the basics first and get some coin back in the piggy bank for down the track. just keen not to wreck the stock plastics through my negligent riding styles! :Punk:

[Padmei]

Hey Bubbs you even think of changing the look of that bike & I'll come & ram a KLR mudguard up your jaksie:argue: You bought a classic as in a fucking classic not a cheap shitty bitza you can go around wrecking!!

Had I known you were planning on chaging it I would have bought it & put it on the pedestal upon which it belongs.



Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

[Woodman]

Cool bike,

Don't worry about removing bits, natural attrition will cover that.

[JATZ]

Hey Bubbs you even think of changing the look of that bike & I'll come & ram a KLR mudguard up your jaksie:argue: You bought a classic as in a fucking classic not a cheap shitty bitza you can go around wrecking!!

Had I known you were planning on chaging it I would have bought it & put it on the pedestal upon which it belongs.



Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

Couldn't have said it better myself :yes:

He might not like you when your not angry anymore :Pokey:

[Padmei]

Couldn't have said it better myself :yes:

He might not like you when your not angry anymore :Pokey:

It's alright Jatz I know how to deal with cowboys like this




talk tuff then when they call your bluff shrink back down & slink away

[buggsubique]

Hey Bubbs you even think of changing the look of that bike & I'll come & ram a KLR mudguard up your jaksie:argue: You bought a classic as in a fucking classic not a cheap shitty bitza you can go around wrecking!!

Had I known you were planning on chaging it I would have bought it & put it on the pedestal upon which it belongs.

Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...

cor, listen you ya! :angry2: If I do mod it, nothing will be permanent, it will all go back to stock when I'm finished with it and one of your grandkids will be able to have a turn with it for a few years. :Pokey:

There are several hairline fractures throughout the body work from drops in its world travels thus far so El Buggerino's NZ riding is likely going to cause a breakage at some point. Trust me, it ain't what I want to see happen either.

Then it's off to Italy to buy my replacement carbon / kevlar panels...in euros (http://www.boano.com/special.asp?id=49&mod=no).

[Eddieb]

nice ride.

[NordieBoy]

Well here she is, in all her early 90's colours, ha.

Sweet.

Wanna swap for a DR650?
One little old lady owner.
Only taken out to church on Sundays.

[buggsubique]

Sweet.

Wanna swap for a DR650?
One little old lady owner.
Only taken out to church on Sundays.

mate, definitely when we get to a steep firebreak, deep water crossing or muddy trail - I'll leave you the XRV and complete the route on the DR!

I just know I'm going to find the limits on this thing at some point...probably alone, probably wet, probably steep, and probably towards the end of the day...:doh:

[NordieBoy]

Holy crap. That's a lot of carbon...

[Padmei]

Oooh carbon... well maybe alittle mod allowed then...

[warewolf]

Well here she is, in all her early 90's colours, ha.
...
-75 to 100w bulbs if I can find the right replacements or custom up a standard set. (who the f*ck specifies 35W bulbs up front!?!?? esp with the 360W alt)Nice one! :niceone:

My TDM850 came with a pair of 35/35W globes reminiscent of Lucas Prince of Darkness, ditto with the decent alternator. Dropped in a pair of common as muck H4 55/60 watters, the difference was night & day!! :rolleyes: Try that before wasting time & money on other alternatives. Pinch a pair out of someone's car and go for a test ride?

[cooneyr]

mate, definitely when we get to a steep firebreak, deep water crossing or muddy trail - I'll leave you the XRV and complete the route on the DR!

I just know I'm going to find the limits on this thing at some point...probably alone, probably wet, probably steep, and probably towards the end of the day...:doh:

You might surprise yourself. The twins are really nice for climbing hills - the power delivery is so smooth and they will pull from so low in the rev range that you can travel slower and more controlled that the DRZ400 and then give it heaps when needed i.e. 70ish kph in first. Only problem is that when it does go wrong they take a bit of lifting.

Congratulations on picking up a twin :niceone:
Cheers R

[Eddieb]

You might surprise yourself. The twins are really nice for climbing hills - the power delivery is so smooth and they will pull from so low in the rev range that you can travel slower and more controlled that the DRZ400 and then give it heaps when needed i.e. 70ish kph in first. Only problem is that when it does go wrong they take a bit of lifting.

Congratulations on picking up a twin :niceone:
Cheers R

+1

When we are out the singles are revving out up the hills and through the soft stuff, but I'll be plugging along at 2500rpm.

[Paladin]

+1

When we are out the singles are revving out up the hills and through the soft stuff, but I'll be plugging along at 2500rpm.

We'll have to try change that on Orongorongo next week then - get yer adrenalin levels up a tad mate!

:2thumbsup

[Oscar]

My names Eddie and I'm an ADV bike addict. Especially @'s and airheads.

I hadn't checked the other thread in a day or 2, hadn't seen that.

The legendary "von Trigger" is for sale.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=209813837

If I wasn't hell bent on buying a boat, I'd buy it myself.

[BMWST?]

The legendary "von Trigger" is for sale.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=209813837

If I wasn't hell bent on buying a boat, I'd buy it myself.

thats too nice to thrash round the hills with these blokes,otherwise i would be tempted!

[BMWST?]

on the other hand
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-211525614.htm

is that a RD07?

[Oscar]

on the other hand
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-211525614.htm

is that a RD07?

I dunno, but I likes it.

[dmc]

Yep its a RD07

[BMWST?]

some people say the rd07 is inferior to the rd04.Why?

[Eddieb]

From memory like a lot of bikes it got heavier and more road, less trail orientated as the years went on.

[buggsubique]

on the other hand
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-211525614.htm

is that a RD07?

That looks like the same bike from down here in Nelson innit? Same can, same box, same bars, same fairing marks, jsut $2k dearer!?!

[buggsubique]

That looks like the same bike from down here in Nelson innit? Same can, same box, same bars, same fairing marks, jsut $2k dearer!?!

infact I'm certain it is.

[Padmei]

Isn;t that pretty pricey for a 1996 bike? Looks good but nearly the price of a new bike??

[buggsubique]

'pends on the bike I spose, but I would have thought that'd be top dollar right there! Prolly won't get a similar bike that cheap to be fair, but yeah at a pluck mid-high sixes perhaps?

Still, this forum has probably just caused an inflationary effect over the last 6-8 weeks!

But... you'd be pissed off knowing this bike went for (presumably) around the $5750 is was advertised for only to be relisted a month later for 1/3 the price again! or a GP of just under 25%. If it was shipped by motorcycle movers say take $400 (generous) out of that to give a net of (arguably so lets just say) 20% or $1500 to the clever bike trader.

[Padmei]

Mate you just lost me when you started talking percentages. Never was much good at trignometry

[BMWST?]

there is another one on Trade me

[Eddieb]

Linky?

I can't find it

[BMWST?]

Linky?

I can't find it

it is listed as a tourer (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-215701498.htm) thats why

[buggsubique]

and it's listed as an "African Twin" not "Africa". Pretty good price, centre stand, no bars though. Looks tidy enuff.

and the speedo is in km, not mi.

[Padmei]

thats a righteous looking bike

[buggsubique]

I can see "XRV 750-V" in your title now Padmei.

"...do it, get the perm...your wife will love it..."

[buggsubique]

From memory like a lot of bikes it got heavier and more road, less trail orientated as the years went on.

going by the specs (Haynes, not Wiki!), the later models were about 4-5kg lighter, so I don't know where this "less offroadable" thing comes from. Maybe just that they look more roady and less "dakary"?

[dmc]

Having ridden both the RD04 is better built, the accountants had too much to do with spec'n of the RD07.

[warewolf]

From memory like a lot of bikes it got heavier and ...Just watch you don't 'ride the spec sheet' with those kind of comments, the specs aren't gospel. Eg Triumph wanted the new 1999 Tiger 885i to appear lighter than the model it replaced. Unfortunately they'd told porkies on the spec sheet by the time the original model made it to production form, so the later year bikes although unchanged had a weight increase on the specs, just so the new 885i's reduced weight would come in under that.

Quoted weights used to have no basis in reality, particularly from the Japs. These days everyone is much better.

Even so, 4-5kg on a 200kg bike is not significant.

[Kokopelli]

J

Even so, 4-5kg on a 200kg bike is not significant.

Very true. Often the bikers are less concerned with 4-5 kg's excess weight on themselves, but justify spending big bucks on a new exhaust to save 4-5kg on the bike's weight.

:laugh:

[warewolf]

I recently read it elsewhere stated as: "The hole at the top is bigger than the hole at the bottom, so compensate" - or similar.