We rant and rave about inaccurate bike reporting...

[Lucy]

(Close up item tonight for example) but we rant and rave about other things we read in the papers and see on tv and take them as gospel. Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

[Winston001]

Are you serious?? :girlfight: I mean, this is an extraction of the weewater riiiight...? :wacko: Anything, and I mean anything, which in the remotest way casts aspersions on our chosen obsession gets the full weight of KB scorn and anger. And since we are all primal 1%ers anyway, the soft mamby-pamby media had better lock their padded doors. :spanking:

Naturally their other stories are shallow and our rightous task is to set things right. Which we do - forthrightly and without fear or favour. Not even the Spanish Inquisition can silence our maunderings.......

[cs363]

If you're referring to stories reported in the media, then yes - I take everything with a grain of salt! Almost everything has a slant or twist to it, whether it stems from politics, corporate meddling or even the reporters bias.
The sad thing is that a lot of people out there believe everything that they read or see in the media and on websites etc..... :eek:

[Katman]

Trouble is, nobody likes any slice of the truth - no matter how small the slice is.

[Shadows]

(Close up item tonight for example) but we rant and rave about other things we read in the papers and see on tv and take them as gospel. Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

Yes. Just about all of them.

[Lucy]

Yes. Just about all of them.

Good. As you were.

[naphazoline]

Media is FULL of shit.Every encounter anyone i know has had with the media,all say the same thing.

In a few words,it's a "cut and paste" fest,to suit their needs.

[CookMySock]

Almost everything has a slant or twist to it, whether it stems from politics, corporate meddling or even the reporters bias.
The sad thing is that a lot of people out there believe everything that they read or see in the media and on websites etc..... :eek:Haha yeah, its all designed to drag us into something that is not related to us, and get us wound up about it. The whole idea is have people believe what they say to be the truth. Like this ;


Trouble is, nobody likes any slice of the truth - no matter how small the slice is.But its not the truth. It's just another wind-up.

Reading the newspaper or watching the news does absolutely nothing for me, except leave me feeling angry. So I don't read the newspaper or watch the news, and I am better for it.

Steve

[awayatc]

got to agree with Steve.....

Been fishing in Cook straight and hear on the radio that there is it is a calm sea and 5 kts breeze....
While we are hanging on for dear life!

And listening to storm and heavy seas warning when there is not a ripple to be spotted.

They only had to look out of their office window to get it right!
So no i don't believe much in accurate reporting and therefor ignore it alltogether...

[cowpoos]

Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

Yes it occurs to me all the time....these days Jounros are making news...not reporting it...and opening with alarmist titles/headings. and frankly its a joke.

I reckon part of its because we have hour long news reels...and frankly NZ doesn't have that much interesting news to fill a whole hour...and I can't stand that wendy petrie...she talks so condisendingly [is that a word?? mind sp*]...and the comments in regard to some issuse by news people...the All you need to know one...thats stupid...not to mention some of these experts they get...the fricken international enviromental scientist they had on the other day...Dr Shoumak or some shit...he's qualifications are in physics specilising in plasma something or rathers...ain't shit to do with the enviroment...DICKS!!

[jrandom]

since we are all primal 1%ers anyway...

Awesome. I think I just wet myself.

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

[Maha]

Are you serious?? :girlfight: I mean, this is an extraction of the weewater riiiight...? :wacko: Anything, and I mean anything, which in the remotest way casts aspersions on our chosen obsession gets the full weight of KB scorn and anger. And since we are all primal 1%ers anyway, the soft mamby-pamby media had better lock their padded doors. :spanking:

Naturally their other stories are shallow and our rightous task is to set things right. Which we do - forthrightly and without fear or favour. Not even the Spanish Inquisition can silence our maunderings.......


Bang on!!
The norm also is to take one, maybe two points of an overalll article and concerntrate mainly on that, rather than be objective about the whole story, however it came across.

[AllanB]

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

Now I'd purchase that T-shirt - PRINT IT.

[Ms Piggy]

(Close up item tonight for example) but we rant and rave about other things we read in the papers and see on tv and take them as gospel. Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

Too right! I didn't see the Close Up news item but heard about it.

We're all guilty (okay, well I know I am) of taking sides and wanting our opinion to be portrayed in the best light. When I look at some of the social issues and the way they are portrayed in the media it pisses me off.

There is always more to any story than is presented in the media, they spin how they want the public to hear it.

[Tank]

So I don't read the newspaper or watch the news, and I am better for it.


Not even the International news?

[CookMySock]

Now I'd purchase that T-shirt - PRINT IT.Its easy to make your own tee shirts.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Boys/Tops-tshirts/Size-10/auction-208431218.htm

Steve

[cs363]

Haha yeah, its all designed to drag us into something that is not related to us, and get us wound up about it.



:laugh: Is it just me, or does that sound like KB??? :rofl:

[Dave Lobster]

There's one of the lies and bullshit channels has the catchphrase:

Where there's a story, we'll find it..

They really should follow it up with..

whether it's there or fucking not.


:mad:

[FROSTY]

Does anyone remember a movie from years ago?. The interview with a famous person was heavilly dubbed.
He could never say --"Hey I diddn't say that" because he did but it was in respose to a different question or indeed the words at beginning or end were removed.
Leading questions to get the words they want.
Interviewer---so you think biker chicks have smelly arpits
Interviewee---Biker chicks have smelly what?
etc etc

[JacksColdSweat]

When my wife came to NZ from the dear old USA she had a 4 year journalism degree under her belt. At that time there was no such thing as a journalism degree in NZ - you could do journalism papers but not a degree

Within a week at the Manurewa Weekly (or similar) (the only job she could get because of the snobbish (read:jealous) attitude of the papers she applied at she had written and run a story that was picked up by both TV networks and every paper in auckland - simply thru basic journalism skills she found a real story everyone else had been to lazy to research.

I'm pretty sure you'll find 1) a lack of proper training and 2) a focus on the media AS the message rather than the message itself is what makes our journalism so poor in NZ (think big fancy sets on Campbell live to tell us stories about skateboarding dogs and an obsession with celebrity)

Not much has changed in the last 10 years

[oldrider]

(Close up item tonight for example) but we rant and rave about other things we read in the papers and see on tv and take them as gospel. Does it ever occur to anyone else here, that the other stories we rant and rave about might be just as inaccurate as the ones about bikes?

The whole purpose of that program was to disinfranchise motorcyclists as legitimate legal motorists!

You wonder why other motorists don't see us?

It's because to them, mentally we don't exist and should not be on the road, therefore it is safe and legitimate for them to proceed rather than give way to a motorcycle.

If the (so called) authorities changed and displayed a more positive attitude toward motorcycles as a legitimate, legal and desirable mode of transport, so too would the attitude of the rest of the motoring public!

I will conceed at this point that Katman's thrust, that we should do more to encourage them to change their attitude by behaving in a like kind of manner, is correct!

I.E. Would that God the gift to give us, to see our selves as, others see us! (Robbie Burns, poet)

That said, the Close Up program was a crock of shit! :angry: John.

[Ocean1]

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

And who the fuck invited you?


Not even the International news?

Or the weather.

They've given up, there. "Forecasts" these days run like: "And in the North Island today there was a spot of rain".

Forecast obviously means sommat other than what Ms Ecklestone thrashed me for whan I failed to do my homework.

[Winston001]

Sheesh guys and gals, I give you a line on a plate with The Spanish Inquisition and........nuthin? :wacko:

[jrandom]

And who the fuck invited you?

I'm all of the above.

[jrandom]

Sheesh guys and gals, I give you a line on a plate with The Spanish Inquisition and........nuthin? :wacko:

We didn't expect it.

[Robert Taylor]

The whole purpose of that program was to disinfranchise motorcyclists as legitimate legal motorists!

You wonder why other motorists don't see us?

It's because to them, mentally we don't exist and should not be on the road, therefore it is safe and legitimate for them to proceed rather than give way to a motorcycle.

If the (so called) authorities changed and displayed a more positive attitude toward motorcycles as a legitimate, legal and desirable mode of transport, so too would the attitude of the rest of the motoring public!

I will conceed at this point that Katman's thrust, that we should do more to encourage them to change their attitude by behaving in a like kind of manner, is correct!

I.E. Would that God the gift to give us, to see our selves as, others see us! (Robbie Burns, poet)

That said, the Close Up program was a crock of shit! :angry: John.

I hear where you are coming from and I was puzzled with some of the comments from the deceaseds friend. Much as I dislike the mans politics at least Phil Goff clarified that most people as they get older are more cautious and have a greater sense of mortality.
Interesting to see that diesel may have been a contributing factor in that accident, hardly surprising on that road and also the failure of all Governments to date to sort out the trucking industries ongoing diesel and effluent spillages.
The reality is that ( arguably ) a lot of these fatalities occur beacuse of a cocktail of unwanted road lubricants, excess speed / safety margin and many badly set up bikes that are in fact dangerous. You could sample 100 bikes and find over half of them with overtight rebound settings, always a cause of accidents on road and track.

[Winston001]

We didn't expect it.

:rofl: :rofl:

[BMWST?]

Awesome. I think I just wet myself.

"Kiwi Biker: A haven for primal 1% ers ,esp spotty geeks, mildly depressed family men trying to escape from reality, and grumpy grandads in sheds since 2002!"

fixed

stoopid 1o chars

[Winston001]

Its easy to make your own tee shirts.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Clothing/Boys/Tops-tshirts/Size-10/auction-208431218.htm

Steve

You can buy 5 sheet packs cheaper from Warehouse Stationery.

[peasea]

Intersetingly a small group of us were discussing the mass media and the general public today....notice how both the MM and the GP look at what bikers are up to and rarely, if ever, the bikers look at them.

We do what we like doing, get on with it and enjoy it. I, and everyone I know, don't take the piss out of someone who wants to buy a BMW, spend thousands on their garden, jump out of a plane, whatever.

The GP, however, are always putting bikers under the microscope.

Why is that?

[Ocean1]

Why is that?

'Cause they're all cunts?

[popelli]

When my wife came to NZ from the dear old USA she had a 4 year journalism degree under her belt. At that time there was no such thing as a journalism degree in NZ - you could do journalism papers but not a degree



You can have as many degrees in journalisim as you like but the basic fact is the papers never let the truth get in the way of a decent story

Papers are printed for one reason only, to sell papers and make a profit, the better the story the more papers that are sold

Having been the victim and having friends who have been the victims of journalists creating newsworthy stories I view journalists as having the same degree of credibility as politicians and used car salemen

[peasea]

'Cause they're all cunts?

Oh yeah, that'll do it......

[peasea]

You can have as many degrees in journalisim as you like but the basic fact is the papers never let the truth get in the way of a decent story

Papers are printed for one reason only, to sell papers and make a profit, the better the story the more papers that are sold

Having been the victim and having friends who have been the victims of journalists creating newsworthy stories I view journalists as having the same degree of credibility as politicians and used car salemen

Bravo. The Nelson Mail recently reported on a bike run and inflamed some basic information. Cocks.

[oldrider]

'Cause they're all cunts?

And we all know that cunts that size lose some of their appeal! :shifty: John.