I like Rap. [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

White trash

21st March 2009, 21:40

There. I fucken said it.

Sue hates it, not keen to listen at all, especially in the car. I should clarify, I'm quite choosey.

For example, i fucken LOVE the "Bring the Noise" remix between Anthrax and Public Enemy. Pure noise-ical Porn. I'm also a huge fan of R.A.T.M, Battle of Los Angelas. Sue likes Rage, but will not listen to that album.

So I'm probably your steriotypical white Rap fan.

I will listen to:

Eminem (Who by the way was voted all time best rapper BY HIS PEERS)
Body Count
Rage, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock (all those metal rappers)
Beastie Boys.

SO. Do I like Rap or am I just some try hard white boy wanting to look tough.

By the way, the Rob Van Winkle/Blood Hound Gang duet is fucken cool.

Her_C4

21st March 2009, 21:43

There. I fucken said it.

Sue hates it, not keen to listen at all, especially in the car. I should clarify, I'm quite choosey.

For example, i fucken LOVE the "Bring the Noise" remix between Anthrax and Public Enemy. Pure noise-ical Porn. I'm also a huge fan of R.A.T.M, Battle of Los Angelas. Sue likes Rage, but will not listen to that album.

So I'm probably your steriotypical white Rap fan.

I will listen to:

Eminem (Who by the way was voted all time best rapper BY HIS PEERS)
Body Count
Rage, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock (all those metal rappers)
Beastie Boys.

SO. Do I like Rap or am I just some try hard white boy wanting to look tough.

By the way, the Rob Van Winkle/Blood Hound Gang duet is fucken cool.

..and Tupac?

Awesome :eek::devil2:

kiwifruit

21st March 2009, 21:43

RATM is awesome. Cypress too. Bone thugs. :rapon:

wbks

21st March 2009, 21:48

It's all crap and I can't stand it. I once bitch slapped a guy for playing it too loud on his cellphone...

White trash

21st March 2009, 21:49

RATM is awesome. Cypress too. Bone thugs. :rapon:
Fucken Cypress!

That's why we start threads like this, for the reminders.

Sorry Chrissie, more of a Notorious man myself.

wbks

21st March 2009, 21:52

So whats the appeal? The image? The beats? The steriotypical shotgun sound effects make people feel tough?

White trash

21st March 2009, 21:56

So whats the appeal? The image? The beats? The steriotypical shotgun sound effects make people feel tough?
Go disect some Eminem lyrics mate. Look em up on google or something without the beats.

Now tell me that's not some of the most cleverly penned shit you've ever read.

kiwifruit

21st March 2009, 21:58

So whats the appeal? The image? The beats? The steriotypical shotgun sound effects make people feel tough?

Same with any music, each to their own. The differences between us, and our tastes in music in this case, are what has enabled us to thrive.

wbks

21st March 2009, 22:01

Go disect some Eminem lyrics mate. Look em up on google or something without the beats.

Now tell me that's not some of the most cleverly penned shit you've ever read.
Thats not some of the most cleverly "penned" shit I've ever read.
Overly cynical, simple themes with a few harsh (fuck this motherfucker that...) lazy language, hardly clever, and misplaced words people only use when trying to sound smart.
Btw don't try to say I haven't looked into it, I went through a faze when I listened religiously to anything from 2pac to 50cent

White trash

21st March 2009, 22:02

And in saying that, I sit here glued to Metalica "One", without a doubt one of the best metal songs of all time. Hate the video, it scares the shit outta me but the song is so fucken cool.

jrandom

21st March 2009, 22:03

Same with any music, each to their own. The differences between us, and our tastes in music in this case, are what has enabled us to thrive.

Off the wagon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxN_pbMOFk0)!

kiwifruit

21st March 2009, 22:03

Thats not some of the most cleverly "penned" shit I've ever read.
Overly cynical, simple themes with a few harsh (fuck this motherfucker that...) lazy language, hardly clever, and misplaced words people only use when trying to sound smart.
Btw don't try to say I haven't looked into it, I went through a faze when I listened religiously to anything from 2pac to 50cent

Start a thread called "i don't like rap" then ya big poo

:sunny:

wbks

21st March 2009, 22:07

Sorry if I sounded negative, I'm somewhat of a Rapophobe.
It's pretty much the only music I will not listen to lol. Actually, some stuff like Kanye West -Heartless or other "hip hop" with interesting styles to them or techno twists are alright (not that I would listen to it a lot), but its the macho crap or flat out annoying shit like that new savage song that pisses me off

wbks

21st March 2009, 22:09

Start a thread called "i don't like rap" then ya big poo

:sunny:One call to the metal heads social group and I could make a thread twice as betterer and bigger than this one:girlfight:

White trash

21st March 2009, 22:10

Thats not some of the most cleverly "penned" shit I've ever read.
Overly cynical, simple themes with a few harsh (fuck this motherfucker that...) lazy language, hardly clever, and misplaced words people only use when trying to sound smart.
Btw don't try to say I haven't looked into it, I went through a faze when I listened religiously to anything from 2pac to 50cent
Difference of opinon then. I can dig that.

"White America" doesn't strike a chord? Personally, I think it hits the nail on the head. I see a tale of struggle in alot of the lyrics. Granted, 20, 30 years ago there was no place for such profanity in songs but what have you got to do to get peoples attention now? I listen to Led Zep and Jimi Hendrix to wind down and chill out now, but forty years ago, these guys were the anti-establishment groups grabbing attention with their controversial lyrics. And before them? The Beatles. And then? Elvis Presley.

jrandom

21st March 2009, 22:12

Granted, 20, 30 years ago there was no place for such profanity in songs but what have you got to do to get peoples attention now?

Will Smith would disagree, etc.

White trash

21st March 2009, 22:15

Tell ya what, while I'm busy coming out of the closet.

Another artist who cracks me up. Robbie Williams. Fucken hilarious.

jrandom

21st March 2009, 22:15

Sue hates it, not keen to listen at all, especially in the car.

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White trash

21st March 2009, 22:17

Will Smith would disagree, etc.
In the words of the great Jimmy Pop.

"Eminem's gotta cuss in his raps to sell records. Well me too. So Fuck Will Smith"

jrandom

21st March 2009, 22:19

In the words of the great Jimmy Pop...

Now there's one of the great underrated lyricists of our day.

wbks

21st March 2009, 22:21

It's not really the language, its just a lot of little things (mainly the whole gayster style that originated because of it), and everything else I described is in most music scenes any way so I'll give you that. I do think that comparing Led and Hendrix to an over rated loud mouth with mommy issues who was only popular due to an abundance of extremely bored middle class white american's desperate to rebel and conform at the same time, is not quite right.

But hey, I'm just pissy I've gone from having 3 bikes to 1 in under a week :[

wbks

21st March 2009, 22:25

Just to level the playing field, I have to admit I think paramore is awesome. Anybody else? Nobody? Ok...:sweatdrop

fire eyes

21st March 2009, 22:45

I remember at intermediate MC Hammer was really the first significant rap artist hahaha ... Run DMC & Ice T (Colours) were some more .. then high school it was R Kelly, PM Dawn, Bell Biv Devoe, Brotherhood Creed more softer than hardcore .. at tech Cypress Hill was a biggie .. the album Black Sunday was awesome .. House of Pain, Snoop Dog, Bone Thugs, Tupac, Dr Dre, Ice Cube etc etc ... they were all on .. old school now though .. still bring up heaps of memories when I hear the sonngs played ..

Dont mind rap or hip hip now but more into rock these days ..

White trash

21st March 2009, 22:56

I remember at intermediate MC Hammer was really the first significant rap artist hahaha ... Run DMC & Ice T (Colours) were some more .. then high school it was R Kelly, PM Dawn, Bell Biv Devoe, Brotherhood Creed more softer than hardcore .. at tech Cypress Hill was a biggie .. the album Black Sunday was awesome .. House of Pain, Snoop Dog, Bone Thugs, Tupac, Dr Dre, Ice Cube etc etc ... they were all on .. old school now though .. still bring up heaps of memories when I hear the sonngs played ..

Dont mind rap or hip hip now but more into rock these days ..
Sorry, as previously stated I'm (very) white and as such can probably not comment with great authority.

That being said, I'm confident in claiming that MC Hammer is FAR from a significant Rap artist. For chists sake, Anthrax ( a Heavy Metal band) were recording Rap songs many years befor MC fucking Hammer was released from his six PM curfew.

In my (very) humble opinion, he was a "pop" rapper. Exactly the same as what Poison or G 'n' R are to metal.

MisterD

22nd March 2009, 07:14

I like the cross-over stuff...and the whole Judgement Night soundtrack is chock full of excellent examples. My personal faves being the Mudhoney / Sir Mixalot and FNM / Boo-ya Tribe collaborations.

riffer

22nd March 2009, 07:38

I listen to Led Zep and Jimi Hendrix to wind down and chill out now, but forty years ago, these guys were the anti-establishment groups grabbing attention with their controversial lyrics. And before them? The Beatles. And then? Elvis Presley.

I seem to recall all these musicians had their share of controversial lyrics.

"She's a prickteaser. She took me half the way there."

riffer

22nd March 2009, 07:40

And with the exception of Public Enemy, all of the rap bands you mention are white trash rap.

A bit different from the other type, which is what most people think of when they think rap.

And agree with you on Eminem, who's one hell of a poet. Compare him with the likes of Sam Hunt, or even Tom Waits - there's a startling similarity.

SixPackBack

22nd March 2009, 08:11

The original rap group, the true barometer of 'rap love'...................copied frequentley but rarley beaten.....

Grandmaster flash and the furious five.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lMXEdV6dcE&feature=related

Ms Piggy

22nd March 2009, 08:21

Yup I'm with you Jimmy - I like some rap too, I'll add Lauren Hill & Missy Elliott, oh and Scribe to your list. I reckon it's the clever lyricists that I like.

....mind you I have very broad musical tastes and while we're here I'll admit to lovin a lot of Country & Western too. :eek:

Dave Lobster

22nd March 2009, 08:27

(C)rap isn't even music.. it's just dumb eejits chanting. Reminds me of seeing the protesting blacks in south africa on the news in the 80s.. jumping up and down whooping. They can't even put their IQ reducing hats on straight.

Someone said about what do you have to do to be noticed?? How about write something that people want to listen to for pleasure, rather than to annoy others?

Bruce Willis got it right in The Last Boy Scout. When the fat bloke said I'm going to kill you slowly, Bruce retorted with Play some rap.... Spot on son, spot on..

Is there anyone that doesn't shout COCK at the cars driving by with their rap music playing too loud?? I can't be the only one. And it's always rap. You don't hear anyone with Kylie playing too loud to annoy everyone else, do you?

Gwinch

22nd March 2009, 08:29

davebullet

22nd March 2009, 08:35

As we all know, there is a strong correlation between generation / age and musical taste. Language has become much "simpler" over the last 400 years. Since Shakespeare, things you could argue have gone downhill. We use far less words to express far more emotions. Having said that, it is amazing that a word like fuck can be used with vocal expression to mean so much more.

I'm not a fan of most rap, but the lyricists are generally clever. the best rappers have multiple themes in their lyrics. A great rapper is someone who leaves you with different impressions / thoughts on different listenings. I prefer good rap to the people in these new hard rock bands that just scream into the microphone.

I think the next big thing will be snuff metal - where bands will hold sacrifices whilst gargling blood.

Dave Lobster

22nd March 2009, 08:40

We use far less words to express far more emotions.

FEWER!! No need to encourage it.. ;)

Gubb

22nd March 2009, 09:48

Body Count are fuckin' amazing!

Try Goldie Lookin' Chain (It's novelty, but hilarious), N.W.A, & Run DMC.

Everlasts solo stuff is also really good (The guy from House Of Pain, along with DJ Lethal from Limp Bizkit)

YellowDog

22nd March 2009, 09:54

Well I hate it myself however it could be a sign of getting old.

If you like RAP, then you really should fly with these guys:

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TripAdvisor/~3/9-UlNgMekvw/struggling-actors-waiters-struggling-rappers-flight-attendants.html

Mental Trousers

22nd March 2009, 10:38

And in saying that, I sit here glued to Metalica "One", without a doubt one of the best metal songs of all time. Hate the video, it scares the shit outta me but the song is so fucken cool.
Everything about One rocks, even the vid. You want something that is incredible with a video that really freaks you out try doing some research on Disturbed - Inside the Fire and watch the vid. Powerful and scary at the same time.

That list doesn't mean you like Rap, just that you like some rap.

fire eyes

22nd March 2009, 13:49

Sorry, as previously stated I'm (very) white and as such can probably not comment with great authority.

That being said, I'm confident in claiming that MC Hammer is FAR from a significant Rap artist. For chists sake, Anthrax ( a Heavy Metal band) were recording Rap songs many years befor MC fucking Hammer was released from his six PM curfew.

In my (very) humble opinion, he was a "pop" rapper. Exactly the same as what Poison or G 'n' R are to metal.

Ha! MC Hammer .. was pretty significant to us .. as sad as they may be .. yup definitely pop rap .. but still rap none-the-less dude ... they all shot from the same group .. lollipop lyrics maybe .. still a blast down memory lane .. :niceone:

Swoop

22nd March 2009, 15:59

Just to level the playing field, I have to admit I think paramore is awesome. Anybody else? Nobody? Ok...:sweatdrop
Yup. From the videos on C4 and Juice, quite enjoyable really. Great vocals.

JacksColdSweat

22nd March 2009, 16:18

"'Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records'
Well I do
So f*ck him and f*ck you too"

Cracks me up every time...

Along with

"i smoke a fat pound of grass
and fall on my ass faster
than a fat bitch who sat down to fast
Come her sl*t
Shady, wait a minute that's mah girl dog
I don't give a f*ck
God sent me to piss the world off"

Guilty pleasures...

Big Dave

22nd March 2009, 22:10

No WT - I appreciate that some are talented and clever people, however, most that I have heard is a long, rhyming complaint about something.

Who needs that shit, I got my own issues.:slap:

driftn

23rd March 2009, 08:10

I agree with you Jimmy, Eminem is very clever, The marshall mathers lp was his best album.
One of his best lines,

"put anthrax on the tampax and slap you till you can't stand"

Shaun

23rd March 2009, 08:31

Go disect some Eminem lyrics mate. Look em up on google or something without the beats.

Now tell me that's not some of the most cleverly penned shit you've ever read.

Just like Elvis Costello, very very cleaver wording. Eminem Movie was very inspirational as well for me

Finn

23rd March 2009, 08:32

They'll all monkeys. That's all I have to say on the subject.

Big Dave

23rd March 2009, 08:50

They'll all monkeys. That's all I have to say on the subject.

Run Finn Run.

Finn

23rd March 2009, 08:56

Run Finn Run.

Finn don't fucken run and Finn don't fucken slide
All these mother fuckers can kiss my white ass hide.

Big Dave

23rd March 2009, 10:21

white ass hide
white ass hide
say what
white ass hide

marioc

23rd March 2009, 11:17

How about some old school NWA and Jurassic 5

Big Dave

23rd March 2009, 13:11

I liked this.

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Dave Lobster

23rd March 2009, 15:24

Mikkel

23rd March 2009, 15:39

SO. Do I like Rap or am I just some try hard white boy wanting to look tough.

Is a baseball cap a predominant feature of your wardrobe (not just between races)?

Do you ride a 'busa with an extended swingarm?

I suspect you just like rap then. To each his own, but I will grant that some of it has real merit. Or I dunno if this is where you got to distinguish between rap and hip-hop (or whatever they call it these days) - because some rapping is really awesome. It's the crappy music, all the fucking bling, the "get rich or die trying"/pimp/gangsta/hoes/drugs elements that surrounds a lot of rap that I really despise. Rapping as a here-and-now improvised discipline (is battling the word) is really cool - but I'd liken it more to good stand-up comedy rather than music.

want-a-harley

23rd March 2009, 16:11

Check out Fuck World Trade by Leftover Crack, then check out Medicore Generica, then check out Choking Victims S/T

Skacore/punk with rap influences.

If you're religous avoid.

mynameis

23rd March 2009, 19:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FSYRo-BpMs

Headbanger

23rd March 2009, 19:58

Eminem has all the artistic merit of Poison, except they can sing, and play instruments. They can even write the music they play.

So,even they, as craptastic as they are, The worst of 80's airhead music, shit all over the pathetic rants of the cry baby women hating skinny white boy.

coffeejunkie

23rd March 2009, 21:27

I listen to all the rappers named here, Always have and even think we hve some talented nz rappers(scribe FTW), I'm a hetal/punk fan but do love eminem and beastie boys and run DMC, and HELL YES i would fly with the airline in that clip:clap: