View Full Version : Would you buy a dropped bike?
Renegade
22nd March 2009, 20:48
Would you buy a bike that has been dropped previosly and repaired, not a major bin, just enough to break a peg and scratch levers and panels.
No impact damage, all cosmetic and no damage to frame or forks.
Parts replaced with genuine items and panels repainted.
Bike in perfect running order and fresh VTNZ wof.
Just a few insignificant battle scars that are only noticable extremly close up.
Would you buy it and how much less would you expect to pay than the exact same bike that hasnt been dropped??
nallac
22nd March 2009, 20:51
yip.. as for priced less,I couldn't say....all depends on condition vs k's and what other bikes the same are for sale at the time.
Big Dave
22nd March 2009, 20:52
Yes - my Thunderbird had been dropped twice. It had just fallen over.
I checked the wheel alignments and it was straight.
Got 120,000 km on it now. No issues from the droppage.
Price dunno sorry.
McDuck
22nd March 2009, 20:53
Would you buy a bike that has been dropped previosly and repaired, not a major bin, just enough to break a peg and scratch levers and panels.
No impact damage, all cosmetic and no damage to frame or forks.
Parts replaced with genuine items and panels repainted.
Bike in perfect running order and fresh VTNZ wof.
Just a few insignificant battle scars that are only noticable extremly close up.
Would you buy it and how much less would you expect to pay than the exact same bike that hasnt been dropped??
Flatmate knocked over the 400 a few weeks back, the side cover has got a crack and a scuff on it. That is all the damage (and i have checked).
Once i have the sidecover repainted will it be worth any less? No in my book
Renegade
22nd March 2009, 20:54
its a 2006 ER6N with about 30k on the clock, i dropped on my shitty driveway at about 20kph, not sure what they sell for on trademe.
Taz
22nd March 2009, 20:56
yes................
Mully
22nd March 2009, 20:58
Yep,
I knew my bike had been damaged - made sure we checked it out prior to purchase and off we went.
It's pretty hard to guarantee that any bike hasn't been at least dropped at some stage.
McDuck
22nd March 2009, 20:59
its a 2006 ER6N with about 30k on the clock, i dropped on my shitty driveway at about 20kph, not sure what they sell for on trademe.
Are you being honest? Would you be happy to buy it? I would buy it, dont know about price tho...
jaymzw
22nd March 2009, 21:01
its a 2006 ER6N with about 30k on the clock, i dropped on my shitty driveway at about 20kph, not sure what they sell for on trademe.
Do you want to sell it? Just put it on Tardme for the same price as others....
Or if you've got real balls let it go 1$ reserve and let the market decide.
20km lowside shouldnt take that much value off such a new bike
3umph
22nd March 2009, 21:07
Would you buy it and how much less would you expect to pay than the exact same bike that hasnt been dropped??
yes... depends on what the overall condition and km it has done....
there is no difference to one on trademe that has been dropped and repaired to as new condition.... how would you really know if a mint bike has been dropped or not if repairs are done right
Renegade
22nd March 2009, 21:08
Are you being honest? Would you be happy to buy it? I would buy it, dont know about price tho...
yes of course im being honest, i suppose it just gutted me, and i just bought a second hand pipe for it to from a wrecker and it sounds sweet.
To me the bike isnt the same bike, its tarnished in my eyes.
from the responses so far i think i will list it on trademe,
The Pastor
22nd March 2009, 21:09
nope i never would buy a bike thats been dropped.
if you dont use geniuine parts/everthing you dont love your bike.
Renegade
22nd March 2009, 21:11
Do you want to sell it? Just put it on Tardme for the same price as others....
Or if you've got real balls let it go 1$ reserve and let the market decide.
20km lowside shouldnt take that much value off such a new bike
no my balls aint that big, but it did a bit of cosmetic damage to every area it could have (murphys law) but its fixed now.
It owes me $5700 at this point.
MaxCannon
22nd March 2009, 21:14
No worries buying a dropped bike so long as the seller is honest about it.
When I bought my bandit it had just been patched up from a minor lowside.
The seller went through in detail all the repairs.
The most seriors was the pillion footpeg which had snapped off.
It is bloody annoying when you drop a bike. I didn't put the stand down properly on mine a couple of months back and it fell over while I was opening the driveway gate.
Crash bung limited the damage to a new clutch lever.
I wouldn't bother selling it just beause it's been dropped.
New shiny things only stay new and shiny for so long.
Big Dave
22nd March 2009, 22:52
nope i never would buy a bike thats been dropped.
if you dont use geniuine parts/everthing you dont love your bike.
I saw your bike in an episode of 'Wacky Racers'.
YellowDog
22nd March 2009, 23:13
Bikes are designed to be dropped without suffering any significant damage.
IMO:
Drop = OK No Probs
Bin = Get it checked out as there could be more damage than is obvious.
discotex
23rd March 2009, 07:30
nope i never would buy a bike thats been dropped.
You prefer to do the crashing yourself?
YLWDUC
23rd March 2009, 07:46
As far as buying a bike, I'd prefer a seller who was totally honest and said that they'd dropped their bike, pointing out the damage etc. More information (and photos) rather than less means buyers are more likely to trust the seller, and they don't have to ask as many dumb questions.
OutForADuck
23rd March 2009, 08:00
So there is a difference between buying and selling a damaged bike. Sellers "should" be straightup about what damage was done and how, let the buyer make their own decisions and stick to what you think is a good price.
Buyers should employ the good old buyer beware and treat every seller as if they are only telling you the half truth :rolleyes:
As for would I buy a dropped bike, absolutely, they are a bargain and good deal at both ends of the trade if you are careful and price appropriate to fixing. I've done it many times and as of yet not been badly burnt (had the odd added unexpected expense :Oi:).
CookMySock
23rd March 2009, 08:07
Bin = Get it checked out as there could be more damage than is obvious.My bike has been down at speed (landed on the grass, not the seal, bent swingarm, bent rear frame) and I spend a month working on it and took it into the bike shop for the fine-tooth-comb treatment and a new WOF, and they scratched their head and couldn't fault it. The shop owner himself took it out on the open road and did the "hundred miles an hour hands off the bars" test, and declared it to be "fine." If you stood and looked at the bike and guessed what had been replaced and what had not, you will find yourself sorely mistaken on many things..
So yeah if it were me selling, I would tell all, and if I were buying I would expect full disclosure, but a straight bike is a straight bike is a straight bike, and that's it.
Steve
vifferman
23rd March 2009, 08:27
I dunno.
I've owned at least three bikes that had been in crashes bad enough to need repairs. One of these still had crash damage when I bought it. This turned out to be a bad omen, as it was either cursed or very lazy, and had several "lying down in the middle of the road for a rest" incidents while I owned it. My current bike has been crashed, and has mismatched front disks, the paint on various bits doesn't quite match when viewed in bright sunlight, and the right peg and brake lever were crooked. But I've happily ridden it for over four years, and added some more battle scars (scratched tank from tank bag, scratches on both side fairings from dropping it at less than walking pace, a cracked (and repaired) clutch cover). It also has a very small dent in the top of the tank from a piece of doweling falling down from the garage rafters.
My 'personalisations' would have been more upsetting were it not for the prior damage. One day I might have it repainted and tidied up.
OTOH, if I'd had the choice of another equivalent bike at the time, I would have / should have bought that instead. It'd be nice to have a really pristine bike, but unfortunately, I've never owned such a beast. The VFR has come closest (it's certainly the nicest bike I've ever owned). In the final analysis, it doesn't matter, as I'm a serial bike'n'car wrecker.
nico
23rd March 2009, 16:52
Would you buy a bike that has been dropped previosly and repaired, not a major bin, just enough to break a peg and scratch levers and panels.
No impact damage, all cosmetic and no damage to frame or forks.
Parts replaced with genuine items and panels repainted.
Bike in perfect running order and fresh VTNZ wof.
Just a few insignificant battle scars that are only noticable extremly close up.
Would you buy it and how much less would you expect to pay than the exact same bike that hasnt been dropped??.
as long as the price was honst and the seller was straight up about it no problems . it's when he trying to hide it i'd get suspusious and wonder what else has gone on here//..
Renegade
23rd March 2009, 19:47
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as long as the price was honst and the seller was straight up about it no problems . it's when he trying to hide it i'd get suspusious and wonder what else has gone on here//..
yeah, ive got nothing to hide, im just one of those people that would rather not own a dropped bike, but like others have said, how would you know if a bikes been dropped if its repaired properly.
Weta
23rd March 2009, 19:48
Yep I would no worries, someone will buy it
want-a-harley
23rd March 2009, 20:26
Bought my ginny second hand, previous owner had dropped it (not binned), scuff marks agree with this, runs like a dream, got it for around $750 less than older models with more k's. Would do it again.
DarkLord
23rd March 2009, 20:28
Yup. My current bike had the fairings replaced before I bought it as it was sideswiped by a car. Nothing wrong with it, though.
The bike I had before that though, a red '06 Hyo 250 had been fully crashed and repaired. It was a piece of shit compared to the current one ('07 Hyo 250). I wouldn't go there again.
98tls
23rd March 2009, 20:32
nope i never would buy a bike thats been dropped.
if you dont use geniuine parts/everthing you dont love your bike. :wacko:If possible i use anything but genuine parts,they cost to much and in general there shit.
slowpoke
23rd March 2009, 20:39
Faaarkin' hell there are some anal people about.
Doesn't matter if the bike has been dropped. It's made out of steel, alloy and plastic not crystal.
If it's not damaged there's nothing wrong with it.
Read that again.......geddit?
slowpoke
23rd March 2009, 20:41
:wacko:If possible i use anything but genuine parts,they cost to much and in general there shit.
Yup, not to mention you can buy some lovely aftermarket goodies that far surpass OEM parts for the same cost or less. Stock sux.
98tls
23rd March 2009, 20:43
Yup, not to mention you can buy some lovely aftermarket goodies that far surpass OEM parts for the same cost or less. Stock sux. Yep for sure mate,$ sucks at the mo though eh.
portokiwi
23rd March 2009, 20:43
I think all but one of my bikes have been dropped,
Mind you all my bikes have been 2nd hand:scooter:
vgcspares
24th March 2009, 14:34
If you figure most and by that I mean more than half have been dropped at some point (and many more than once), then all you really need care about is how it looks and goes.
I'd even go as far as saying a written-off bike which has been repaired to standard and successfully gained a 308 certification would be straighter than your average "uncrashed" bike - but then that's probably a bit too controversial for this site as some numbskull will probably claim I'm saying any crashed bike is repairable.
Renegade
24th March 2009, 18:23
If you figure most and by that I mean more than half have been dropped at some point (and many more than once), then all you really need care about is how it looks and goes.
I'd even go as far as saying a written-off bike which has been repaired to standard and successfully gained a 308 certification would be straighter than your average "uncrashed" bike - but then that's probably a bit too controversial for this site as some numbskull will probably claim I'm saying any crashed bike is repairable.
whats a 308 certification??
rogson
24th March 2009, 18:33
Yep, but only if it had a steel frame.
varminter
24th March 2009, 18:34
I understand what your saying about not wanting a dropped bike, bad for your karma and people will laugh at you, you will die of shame. I'll give you $50 for it:yes:
Renegade
24th March 2009, 18:38
I understand what your saying about not wanting a dropped bike, bad for your karma and people will laugh at you, you will die of shame. I'll give you $50 for it:yes:
add a couple of zeros and its yours :done:
Headbanger
24th March 2009, 18:42
add a couple of zeros and its yours :done:
Got photo's?
Renegade
24th March 2009, 18:55
Got photo's?
not yet, i need the bike for about another month as its my commuter for work until i save enough for a replacement bike, i will however advertise it here for a week prior to listing it ontrade me in case KB'rs want a cheap ride, probly looking around the $5800 but no less.
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