Hampton Downs Ride Days & California Superbike School

[Mort]

Don't know if this is common knowledge or not...but this looks good... Looks like an established Aussie trackday firm is setting up at Hampton Downs.

http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/

The website is not fully operational yet though.

According to Bike Rider magazine they are accepting bookings for the following dates :

Monday 8th June
Saturday 20th June
Friday 17th July
Friday 14th August
Friday 4th Sept
Saturday 12th Sept
Sunday 13th Sept (2 day-er :drool:)

They are also bringing the California Superbike School to New Zealand :woohoo:

http://www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz/

4 school dates planned for this year.

Sept 10th & 11th (Initially Level 1)
Nov 19th & 20th (Level 1 & 2)

Some further info:

The firm will be hiring track bikes and gear for the school and the track days.

Standard Suzuki GSXR600's with race panels. $350 per day with a maximum of $4500 of damage liability (ie if you write it off that is the maximum cost to you)
Full riding kit - Technics leathers, gloves, boots and Arai Helmet - $75 per day

Track construction is on schedule and it is likely bikes will be the first to use the track as pit garages may not be complete. Track surface is not thought to be a problem for bikes when it opens.

For more information or to make a booking, just call Darren on (09)412 6266 or email info@hamptondownsridedays.co.nz

[Rcktfsh]

Do you think their race prepped gsxr's will be running a full knobly or a trials pattern tyre?

[madbikeboy]

The facilities will be international level, and the racetrack itself has some good challenging corners.

Can't wait!

[Toot Toot]

Ask Devil (Mat) about this, he knows them.

[Rcktfsh]

The facilities will be international level, and the racetrack itself has some good challenging corners.

Can't wait!

Agree that the track looks like it will have some challenging corners particularly on those early dates their advertising the school running when they wont have any asphalt on them.

[Gubb]

I'm gonna do the Superbike School.

Sounds awesome.

[Tickler]

From the www.hamptondowns.com website re construction update:

Clayton Reid of Ross Reid Contractors and Dr Peter Goldsmith of Fraser Thomas Ltd (Consulting Engineers and Project Managers) have mobilised all their respective staff to complete the 2.8km International Track by June 2009. Clayton and Peter said "It's a big challenge but given reasonable weather we can do it."

- No bull they think they can do it! They were surposed to have it finished in January! I would love to see the penalty clauses being paid out on this contract!

Also good to see that the pictures from December 2008 onwards truely reflect the status of the track (i.e not there!).

Its just easier to see how they are progressing as i drive past on my way to taupo to a track which exists!

[Matt Bleck]

3 or 4 groups? :D

[Toot Toot]

Here is a simulation of the circuit. I like the left hander that dips down hard out to the left.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvu2NCkYJ4M

[Gman71]

On my way back from Taupo trackday yesterday I hopped off at the Hampton Downs off ramp to take a look for myself, after hearing different stories about finished, or not, it was.

can confirm it is near perfect for the world motorcross championships- piles of mud and dirt, and not a cubic inch or tarmac to be be seen anywhere.

It will be a busy 2 months for those boys if they want perople riding on it in June! I'll be there whenever it's ready!

[wildcat_lgf]

3 or 4 groups? :D

by the look of their eastern creek days - they run 4 groups.

what does this mean for the other track-day organisers? I presume this isn't like an exclusive deal or anything?

Taupo is going to suffer quite a bit I would imagine...

[prettybillie]

That's awesome! And heaps of trackdays already organised....you bet you will see my butt at ALL of them!!!!! :eek:

[Mort]

3 or 4 groups? :D

Looks like 4 from the Eastern Creek schedule...HERE (http://www.easterncreekridedays.com.au/common.php?common_id=13) but they start at 9 sharp and end at 5 and go through lunch.... so 6 sessions per group - :2thumbsup

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=123801&stc=1&d=1237860812

[koba]

Cool as!

Hey just what you are after mort!

Do you need a licence for these things?

[wildcat_lgf]

Cool as!

Hey just what you are after mort!

Do you need a licence for these things?

Yes...you need a m/c licence - they can apparantly hire you a bike and gear though if you need.

It'd be interesting to know the cost of this (no doubt prohibitively expensive!)

[Duke girl]

I thought they were having trouble with the foundations at Hampton Downs and that is the reason why the track hasn't even been started with having tarmac being put down on it.
If thats the case then there is no way it will be ready in June.

[Devil]

They want 60 days after laying the asphalt before anyone uses it.

Yes, 4 groups.

Superbike school dates start in September.

Other trackday companies are shit outta luck as far as i'm aware.

[Tank]

They want 60 days after laying the asphalt before anyone uses it.



Can you imagine being there and looking at all the beautiful fresh smooth tarmac and not being able to use it for 60 days.

It would be hell.

[kiwifruit]

It will be awesome if it all goes ahead!

[Devil]

It will be awesome if it all goes ahead!

It is all going ahead. The ride day dates have been set given the information provided to them by track management.

[chrispy121]

so they will be letting bikes on for a couple of months before cars
something we get over the cars for a change :calm::beer:

[Toot Toot]

so they will be letting bikes on for a couple of months before cars
something we get over the cars for a change :calm::beer:

Excpt it will be slippery as all buggery untill there is some rubber on the track.. and that means cars :(

[Marknz]

Excpt it will be slippery as all buggery untill there is some rubber on the track.. and that means cars :(

Agreed... remember the early problems at Taupo before some decent rubber was laid down. It's not till they have a few good car meetings that the track will be of any great use to bikes, but then you don't want V8's going out there too early as they'll just ripple the surface up and make it virtually one line in every corner for us.

I've done a number of CSS ride days at both Eastern Creek and Philip Island... these guys are very good and have a great operation going. I'm really looking forward to giving Hampton Downs a go on a ride day, and then doing the four levels of training at with the CSS.

Hiring a bike and all the gear for a day is roughly $400AU. There is a big wedge that they 'hold' on your credit card for the day just in case you ditch the bike... but no one is going to wreck one of those nice new Gixxer 6's.

[Peter Smith]

Do you think their race prepped gsxr's will be running a full knobly or a trials pattern tyre?

Can I get a 180 knobly for my 1100???:Pokey:

[Chrislost]

From the www.hamptondowns.com website re construction update:

Clayton Reid of Ross Reid Contractors and Dr Peter Goldsmith of Fraser Thomas Ltd (Consulting Engineers and Project Managers) have mobilised all their respective staff to complete the 2.8km International Track by June 2009. Clayton and Peter said "It's a big challenge but given reasonable weather we can do it."

- No bull they think they can do it! They were surposed to have it finished in January! I would love to see the penalty clauses being paid out on this contract!

Also good to see that the pictures from December 2008 onwards truely reflect the status of the track (i.e not there!).

Its just easier to see how they are progressing as i drive past on my way to taupo to a track which exists!

Went past last weekend.
it was a sunday and there were only 2 bulldozers working.
looks like they have built the cement plant they needed. and the bridge looks like its finished, just not assembled yet.

im hoping that the track is not more expensive then the gas, tyres and entry fees to travel to a taupo track day and back!

[discotex]

but no one is going to wreck one of those nice new Gixxer 6's.

They're gixxers... There's no way they'll stay rubber side up for more than a week :chase:

[Kiwi Graham]

Personally I cant wait to get an international circuit just down the road from me, the web site makes it look awesome. As for being ready in June.......no chance in hell from what I can see. Its taken contractors months to complete 400mtrs of new road of Lincoln road ,West Auckland and it still isnt open yet. What chance of a whole circuit in only a couple of months?

[kittytamer]

im hoping that the track is not more expensive then the gas, tyres and entry fees to travel to a taupo track day and back!

Looks like trackdays will cost $200

[Big Dave]

Heyyyy! Kiwi Rider Magazine too.
I made the ads :-)
You'd have to ask Darren about costs and dates - he's cool - ring him.
latest ad attached

[Toot Toot]

Great looking Ad Dav, I just honestly cant see the track being ready by June. August- September is definatly more viable tho.

[Devil]

Track manager said yesterday they're still confident of the June date. However, any bad weather will fork it.

[Toot Toot]

Track manager said yesterday they're still confident of the June date. However, any bad weather will fork it.

So its forked then? Didnt someone say it has to cure for 6 weeks or something? That means they got two weeks to have the tarmac laid if its going to cure properly and have the track operational by June.

[Mort]

I Can't wait.

[Devil]

So its forked then? Didnt someone say it has to cure for 6 weeks or something? That means they got two weeks to have the tarmac laid if its going to cure properly and have the track operational by June.

Roughly yeah. Remember at this stage it is the National circuit they're commiting too, not the whole thing. I think two months later they expect the rest to come online.

[Mort]

Hampton Downs Ride Days (http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/) has agreed exclusive rights to run bike track days and the superbike school for 5 years.

Cost will be $199. Weekday events will use the full circuit. Weekend events will use the 2.8km national circuit. ... so for Aucklanders it should be cheaper than the trip to Taupo plus its easy to do in one day.

They expect to be the first to use the track in June and there shouldnt be a problem with grip. The surface is a specialist racing compound with high grip from the start..

[Devil]

Hampton Downs Ride Days (http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/) has agreed exclusive rights to run bike track days and the superbike school for 5 years.

Cost will be $199. Weekday events will use the full circuit. Weekend events will use the 2.8km national circuit. ... so for Aucklanders it should be cheaper than the trip to Taupo plus its easy to do in one day.

They expect to be the first to use the track in June and there shouldnt be a problem with grip. The surface is a specialist racing compound with high grip from the start..

This man speaks the truth.

[ckai]

Hampton Downs Ride Days (http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/) has agreed exclusive rights to run bike track days and the superbike school for 5 years.

Cost will be $199. Weekday events will use the full circuit. Weekend events will use the 2.8km national circuit. ... so for Aucklanders it should be cheaper than the trip to Taupo plus its easy to do in one day.

They expect to be the first to use the track in June and there shouldnt be a problem with grip. The surface is a specialist racing compound with high grip from the start..

Bloody hell, 2 Hundy! Looks like it'll still be cheaper for me to head to Taupo. It'll be rude not to at least do one day a year at HD though :Punk:

[boostin]

Hampton Downs Ride Days (http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/) has agreed exclusive rights to run bike track days and the superbike school for 5 years.

Cost will be $199. Weekday events will use the full circuit. Weekend events will use the 2.8km national circuit. ... so for Aucklanders it should be cheaper than the trip to Taupo plus its easy to do in one day.

They expect to be the first to use the track in June and there shouldnt be a problem with grip. The surface is a specialist racing compound with high grip from the start..

How does this work with someone wanting to hire the track for a private track day, to run bikes? (eg Frostys days)

[Mort]

Exclusive means exclusive. The track have struck deals with other companys to provide car track days, and training days etc... Its all about maintaining an "assured" standard and for insurance reasons apparently. Personally I think a bit of competition would be healthy for the track day scene but thats the way its gone... They did the same at Phillip Island and Eastern creek I believe...

This looks good for folks who live further away.

From the Hampton Downs website :


Completion of Hampton Downs moved a step closer with the delivery of furniture to the appartments. Rental of the apartments will start 1st May 2009. They operate like Motels and will sleep up to 5 people per night for $250 per night. So if you are visting Auckland or Hamilton give Jamie a call on 09 5207841 and make a booking.

there's also a campground.

[Devil]

How does this work with someone wanting to hire the track for a private track day, to run bikes? (eg Frostys days)

Private groups will still be able to hire the track, but not run it as a business.
Good luck getting a booking however ;) The track calendar is pretty chocka.

[J-rod]

Still can't get my head past $200.00..... thats a lotta moolah when you want to do a couple of track days a month. Are they doing anything extra with their track days that justifies the extra $$$

[Gubb]

Not paying for Gas to and from Taupo, plus accommodation, not to mention a more interesting (and technical?) track to have fun on.

[Devil]

Still can't get my head past $200.00..... thats a lotta moolah when you want to do a couple of track days a month. Are they doing anything extra with their track days that justifies the extra $$$

We in NZ have it easy as far as trackday costs go. Generally because of the quality of the tracks. Hampton Downs is supposed to be in a whole new league as far as NZ tracks go. This is part of the cost.

I know the people running the ride days and superbike school and you can expect the safest most well run days we've seen.

Hampton Downs Ride Days will have tyre sales/fitting and mechanical service facilities and a few other extra's that will differentiate it from the current group of trackday companies.

Expect the best.

[MaxCannon]

$200 does sound a bit steep.

Will definitely try it and see if it's Value For Money

[boostin]

We in NZ have it easy as far as trackday costs go. Generally because of the quality of the tracks. Hampton Downs is supposed to be in a whole new league as far as NZ tracks go. This is part of the cost.

I know the people running the ride days and superbike school and you can expect the safest most well run days we've seen.

Hampton Downs Ride Days will have tyre sales/fitting and mechanical service facilities and a few other extra's that will differentiate it from the current group of trackday companies.

Expect the best.
$200 does seem expensive

[Devil]

Proof will be in the pudding as they say. We're all looking forward to seeing it up and running.

[chrispy121]

it costs me over $200 to go o taupo including gas etc getting up at 4am is also a pain but taupo is a really fun track to ride and I will still go there but we will now have a great track next door to Auckland.

if you look at the pricing it cost $200 for eastern creak or philip island translate into NZ dollars and it works out to be about $240nz.
we are still getting a better deal on the only track in NZ of its grade.

[Mort]

On the subject of cost I've just done a quick comparison with Aussie tracks and the UK... (using todays exchange rate)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125771&stc=1&d=1239160497

By comparison a day at Taupo is a bargain (even more so at somewhere like Manfield).

Considering Hampton Downs is a supposed to be a world class venue, as good as the best international circuits then $199 would seem reasonable. For me at least it works out cheaper than Taupo. However, as someone said above there would seem to be a considerable profit margin at this price so I think its right to expect the very best from this firm.

One further point of interest here is the provision of hire bikes. New GSXR600's at $350 per day with limited damage liability. This is a very viable option for anyone considering a new bike. The cost includes tyres and fuel. Just turn up and ride. If you were to buy such a bike and do, say, 10 trackdays on it it would cost considerably more than to hire one when you look at the cost of purchase and consumables and insurance etc. It also gives the opportunity to hire a bike that you may not be able to afford or would consider as a road bike. I think thats a good deal and is good for expanding participants in trackdays.

So far so good... but people will expect the best from these days.

[kiwifruit]

Its certainly great for motorcycling to have the superbike school in NZ. I've no doubt people will pay the money to take part... motorcyclists love spending money on motorcycle related things / activities.
I don't think the fact they have exclusive rights to hampton downs is necessarily a bad thing for the other trackday companies, either.

Looking forward to riding the track!

[Devil]

Its certainly great for motorcycling to have the superbike school in NZ. I've no doubt people will pay the money to take part... motorcyclists love spending money on motorcycle related things / activities.
I don't think the fact they have exclusive rights to hampton downs is necessarily a bad thing for the other trackday companies, either.

Looking forward to riding the track!

Yeah I wouldn't expect demand for Taupo for example to drop off either. It's a good fun track in it's own right and well placed as far as access from anywhere in the north island goes.

Hoping for good weather so they can get the track finished!

[boostin]

No doubt the cost of track days in NZ is cheaper than other places in the world. However doing a direct exchange rate comparison is not really fair as that does not take into account things like differing wages, cost of living, or taxes.

[chrispy121]

cost of track day at Hampton Downs $200.

knowing the track lines and teaching it too WSBK riders before next years race PRICELESS.

[J-rod]

Ok, how about $100.00 half day sessions with none of the mumbo jumbo at the front end. Start at 8.00am, get straight into it....half day ends at 12.00.

I just want to do more than one track day every six weeks...
I will most definitely go a have fang around HD's, but Taupo and Puke are money for jam as far as bang for buck goes, so all good if its a great track but most of the track day companies do a pretty good job at the tracks available.

WSB week is gonna be a top 10 moment

[chrispy121]

Ok, how about $100.00 half day sessions with none of the mumbo jumbo at the front end. Start at 8.00am, get straight into it....half day ends at 12.00.

I just want to do more than one track day every six weeks...
I will most definitely go a have fang around HD's, but Taupo and Puke are money for jam as far as bang for buck goes, so all good if its a great track but most of the track day companies do a pretty good job at the tracks available.

WSB week is gonna be a top 10 moment
stop spining up you tyres j-rod and you can do the whole day:laugh:

by the way I have the trailer sorted for our next Taupo trip

[scracha]

On the subjet of cost I've just done a quick comparison with Aussie tracks and the UK... (using todays exchange rate)


You can't compare any of these wide, grippy tracks with excellent facilities and runoff to the slippery building site that is Taupo.


http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/

Website under construction...what is this...1986? At least get the fuggin prices up there.

I'm wondering who the instructors will be.............

[wharfy]

Proof will be in the pudding as they say. We're all looking forward to seeing it up and running.

"The proof of the pudding is in the eating", is what they should say :)
I guess I will have to have a taste, even at $200, as someone said earlier, "it would be rude not to" :)

[dpex]

Standard Suzuki GSXR600's with race panels. $350 per day with a maximum of $4500 of damage liability (ie if you write it off that is the maximum cost to you)

I have a problem with the 'Max $4500' liability, on account of the insurance companies seem to write off a new bike when a sparrow shits on the seat. So even a low-end, low-side bin is likely to attract a $4500 fee.

Luckily, I have my own bike, but geez I'd love to give a modern Gixer a go, but not with that price-tag hanging off the end. Hell's teeth, I'd never push to anywhere near the limits so what would be the point?

Does anyone know of a reinsurer who will insure against the excess?

[Devil]

Standard Suzuki GSXR600's with race panels. $350 per day with a maximum of $4500 of damage liability (ie if you write it off that is the maximum cost to you)

I have a problem with the 'Max $4500' liability, on account of the insurance companies seem to write off a new bike when a sparrow shits on the seat. So even a low-end, low-side bin is likely to attract a $4500 fee.

Luckily, I have my own bike, but geez I'd love to give a modern Gixer a go, but not with that price-tag hanging off the end. Hell's teeth, I'd never push to anywhere near the limits so what would be the point?

Does anyone know of a reinsurer who will insure against the excess?

Unfortunately that's life when it comes to other peoples bikes. I'd say though by them having the race fairings on there the plastics would be significantly cheaper to replace than if it were a road bike.

[kudos@xtra.co.nz]

The cost for the track day is $199.00 and the cost per day for the school is $429.00 if you bring your own bike and gear. You can get two days of world class tuition and a ride day for $1,057.

[sinfull]

The cost for the track day is $199.00 and the cost per day for the school is $429.00 if you bring your own bike and gear. You can get two days of world class tuition and a ride day for $1,057.
Well crikey, at that price i might make it a couple a week !

[Cr1MiNaL]

I'll be saving up for this. Can't wait. Bring on Summer !

[chaos rider]

I'll be saving up for this. Can't wait. Bring on Summer !

ill second to that, i read up on the track layout and elavation changes there are a couple of monster corners.

poor brakes:confused:

[Big Dave]

latest update attached.

[scracha]

One further point of interest here is the provision of hire bikes. New GSXR600's at $350 per day with limited damage liability. This is a very viable option for
$350 bucks....I KNOW there's a few on here who will destroy the rear tyre in one day.

I can see the bike hire cost going up when they figure out kiwi's have no fear!

[puddy]

So I wonder if they'll let the drifters etc onto the track soon after they open so that HD can have those nice repair strips that Taupo has?

[Cr1MiNaL]

So I wonder if they'll let the drifters etc onto the track soon after they open so that HD can have those nice repair strips that Taupo has?


As a road rider I can't help but slow right down on those annoyances... Can't seem to block them out enough to be as fast as I used to be on Taupo.

[emaN]

So I wonder if they'll let the drifters etc onto the track soon after they open so that HD can have those nice repair strips that Taupo has?
Wasn't the drifters.
The place was sweet until the A1 turned up & ripped it up, and then did it all over again next time.
Hopefully HD have put some R&D into putting down a more suitable 'mix', else it'll suffer the same fate I'm picking :pinch:

[kittytamer]

So..... first track day at Hampton Downs in today then?


Just had a look at the website and there does seem to be alot of progress on laying the track surface. Should be a go for the spring!

[samgab]

I can't wait to give this a go! :2thumbsup

[boostin]

Some more pics up on the HD website

http://www.hamptondowns.com/Construction-Update.wse

[chrispy121]

I drove past this morning at 7.15 and they were working on it then they are trying to get this done by the looks of it at least it will be ready for summer

[sosman]

Looking Rad :2thumbsup

[chrispy121]

sos you just want to get that thou out and see what it can do (legally anyway):Police:

[RT527]

$200 does seem expensive

ok lets factor in having staff there like ambulance / rescue staff to cart you off the track when you have an off...it all costs but then if you want to crawl to hospital be my guest.

[R6_kid]

ok lets factor in having staff there like ambulance / rescue staff to cart you off the track when you have an off...it all costs but then if you want to crawl to hospital be my guest.

Yeh, but those services are the same as what you get at Taupo with MotoTT - $100 prepaid, $120 pay on the day.

I think it'll end up being a 'who you know' sorta deal where people end up forming into 'trackday club groups' and hiring out the track privately and not making any profit on the day.

[sosman]

sos you just want to get that thou out and see what it can do (legally anyway):Police:

Fooken eh! brudda

I'm aiming for Warp factor9 :Punk:

[chrispy121]

Fooken eh! brudda

I'm aiming for Warp factor9 :Punk:

shouldn't that be warp factor 10 or have you detuned your bike to 900 cc.
:soon:

[Devil]

Yeh, but those services are the same as what you get at Taupo with MotoTT - $100 prepaid, $120 pay on the day.

I think it'll end up being a 'who you know' sorta deal where people end up forming into 'trackday club groups' and hiring out the track privately and not making any profit on the day.

... be not insured if you're on a road bike...

Check out the updated pics. Progress! Woohoo!
http://www.hamptondowns.com/Construction-Update.wse

[Pumba]

Ok, didnt have anyhting else to do today so went down to the open day (third one I have attended) to see how the construction was progressing.

We walked the "National" circuit which is completly lime stabilised and has about 80% of the basecourse laid.

All I can say is FUCK MEEEEE!!!!!

Once you start walking it you get more of a feel for the elevation changes, the infeid corkscrew hairpain is going to be insane, especailly given the fact that at the point you want to be on the brakes you are only just seeing the corner as you come over a creast. The front staight looks super steap standing at the base of the hill. This track is going to be AMAZZING!!!!


Hampton Downs Ride Days (http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/) has agreed exclusive rights to run bike track days

I talked had a talk with Tony Roberts the managing director who said he had not signed any exclusive deals with anyone in regard to orgainised track days, his words were that the the track was there to be hired by whoever wanted to use it comercial intrest or otherwise (read whoever will pay us money we will be happy to take it:laugh:).

[Mort]

I talked had a talk with Tony Roberts the managing director who said he had not signed any exclusive deals with anyone in regard to orgainised track days, his words were that the the track was there to be hired by whoever wanted to use it comercial intrest or otherwise (read whoever will pay us money we will be happy to take it:laugh:).

Well something must have changed..... Darren Sweetman told me that to my face. What you say must be right and good thing for all. The track sounds awesome...

[sosman]

shouldn't that be warp factor 10 or have you detuned your bike to 900 cc.
:soon:
Warp factor 9 for first lap! :done:

[chrispy121]

Warp factor 9 for first lap! :done:

warp factor 6 for me on the new r6 once I sort out the suspension set up that is

[Cr1MiNaL]

warp factor 6 for me on the new r6 once I sort out the suspension set up that is

Same Warp Factor 6 ftw... :2guns:

[erik]

I just got an email from Honda Rider's Club (I'm not a member, just attended one of their track days in the past) and they've got a couple of track days at Hampton Downs coming up:

Sunday 6 December, Hampton Downs National Circuit
Saturday 6 February, Hampton Downs International Circuit

(also listed on their events page: http://www.hondaridersclub.co.nz/events.asp?PageId=150)

So I guess it's true Hampton Downs Ride Days don't have exclusive rights...

[discotex]

I just got an email from Honda Rider's Club (I'm not a member, just attended one of their track days in the past) and they've got a couple of track days at Hampton Downs coming up:

Sunday 6 December, Hampton Downs National Circuit
Saturday 6 February, Hampton Downs International Circuit

(also listed on their events page: http://www.hondaridersclub.co.nz/events.asp?PageId=150)

So I guess it's true Hampton Downs Ride Days don't have exclusive rights...

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Don't tell anyone :msn-wink:

[chrispy121]

Same Warp Factor 6 ftw... :2guns:

we need to get an r6 club together
honda have ride days
so do suzuki (if i still had my gixxer I could go)

where is the Yami day???

is it because Yamahas win moto gp and supersport and superbike races this weekend they decide not to let any Yamaha riders get any more practice to let everyone else catch up???:bash::scooter:

[Cr1MiNaL]

we need to get an r6 club together
honda have ride days
so do suzuki (if i still had my gixxer I could go)

where is the Yami day???

is it because Yamahas win moto gp and supersport and superbike races this weekend they decide not to let any Yamaha riders get any more practice to let everyone else catch up???:bash::scooter:

Yea man, got to give the other brands a fighting chance.. Its no fun when Yamaha win's everything from the start. See what Rossi is currently doing? Bet he's getting paid a shit load... or maybe he wants to give his fans something to cheer about. We all know who will win in the end. - The guy who rides a Yamaha. :sunny:

[Devil]

So I guess it's true Hampton Downs Ride Days don't have exclusive rights...

No, they do. But private groups (like HRC) can hire the track too. HDRD have exclusive rights to run trackdays for the general public.

[Quasievil]

I Cant get my head around this bit (as per picture)

It seems like the walls on the sides would be a issue if a motorbike rider hit them, not sure which direction the travel is but either direction seems like a issue to me. Hope Im wrong but thats what it looks like is all Im saying

[kiwifruit]

I Cant get my head around this bit (as per picture)

It seems like the walls on the sides would be a issue if a motorbike rider hit them, not sure which direction the travel is but either direction seems like a issue to me. Hope Im wrong but thats what it looks like is all Im saying

Track is clockwise (?) so it won't be a problem :)

[slowpoke]

No, they do. But private groups (like HRC) can hire the track too. HDRD have exclusive rights to run trackdays for the general public.

FUCK! Lookin' at that track layout I'm cruising around it in my head and all I'm seeing is 2nd gear corner, 2nd gear corner, 2nd gear corner. Elevation changes or not it's fukkin' Taupo mkII...........

[discotex]

FUCK! Lookin' at that track layout I'm cruising around it in my head and all I'm seeing is 2nd gear corner, 2nd gear corner, 2nd gear corner. Elevation changes or not it's fukkin' Taupo mkII...........

No way in hell will it be Taupo mkII.

Besides the fact it's a right-hand track it has a number of long fast corners as well as the slow hairpins. This simulation kinda shows the rise and fall but it's nothing compared to how it'll be for real.

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[Kiwi Graham]

I Cant get my head around this bit (as per picture)

It seems like the walls on the sides would be a issue if a motorbike rider hit them, not sure which direction the travel is but either direction seems like a issue to me. Hope Im wrong but thats what it looks like is all Im saying

I've noticed the walls in the few pics that are on the web site. A little concerning I agree. I'm planning on making the next walk around day at the end of the month 26th I think and check it out for myself.
The circuit is clockwise I belive, I'm looking forward to it opening and giving us Auckland dudes another track to frequent but another concern is the price! twice the price of other circuits :gob: but if its twice as good :rockon:

[Mort]

No way in hell will it be Taupo mkII.

Besides the fact it's a right-hand track it has a number of long fast corners as well as the slow hairpins. This simulation kinda shows the rise and fall but it's nothing compared to how it'll be for real.




OOOh that vid was good.... the last bit shows the first bit to be like Paddock hill bend at Brands Hatch.... That is one awesome bend.

[slowpoke]

No way in hell will it be Taupo mkII.

Besides the fact it's a right-hand track it has a number of long fast corners as well as the slow hairpins. This simulation kinda shows the rise and fall but it's nothing compared to how it'll be for real.


On their website they talk you through a simulated lap in an F3000 car, which'll corner faster than a bike, and the fastest corner is coming onto the kinked straight: 130kmh.

There are definitely some looong corners but nothing particularly fast. Don't get me wrong, it'll still be fun and challenging, but it's very PC with it's corner speeds. Not a high speed sweeper in sight.

Still, it's something different, and I can't wait to turn a tyre on it.

[emaN]

nooooo, don't burst my bubble!
PC is not what I want! I'm hangin' out for some fast bends to mix it up some. Guess it was inevitable that it'd follow the way of the rest of the european "world class" "modern" circuits... I hope I'm wrong tho'!!!
Really hope my bubble hasn't been burst.

[MaxCannon]

Drove past the other week and it's looking good.

Complaining about corner speed - I don't know. Pukekohe has got fast corners and everyone gripes about how dangerous they track is.

Can't wait till we get to to try it out. Must be time for a new bike....

[discotex]

On their website they talk you through a simulated lap in an F3000 car, which'll corner faster than a bike, and the fastest corner is coming onto the kinked straight: 130kmh.


Will be interesting to see how fast it really is. That might be mid corner but still, knee down for ages at 130 is all good as far as I'm concerned.

[Cr1MiNaL]

As long as your knee is decked your fucking winning in my books.

[Ascott]

So are there any "track days" other than h.r.c. organised? How does one stick their name down? I checked out the web site and could find nothing of that ilk! Have I missed something?
Al

[chrispy121]

So are there any "track days" other than h.r.c. organised? How does one stick their name down? I checked out the web site and could find nothing of that ilk! Have I missed something?
Al

at the start of the thread

hamtondownsridedays.com

the website isnt fully operational but if you email info darren will send you up dates.

they are trying to get the track ready as soon as possible

[Ascott]

Hi Chrispy thanks for that will have a look-see.
Al

[scracha]

Complaining about corner speed - I don't know. Pukekohe has got fast corners and everyone gripes about how dangerous they track is.
.
That's because of the lack of runoff and armco...not the fast corners. Talking of which, they're talking about sealed runnoff at Hampton Downs. Now that might slow down the cars........ The runoff at the end of the 750m back straight does not look nearly big enough.

Any progress at the track?

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird the http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/ isn't ready yet?

Lets hope it doesn't all turn to chocolate.

[Devil]

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird the http://www.hamptondownsridedays.co.nz/ isn't ready yet?

Lets hope it doesn't all turn to chocolate.

It's not turning to custard, but money makes the world go round so once stuff starts happening, I expect the website will be completed.

[Lula]

Got an update from these guys today and circuit management are expecting completion of the track in October. I'm looking forward to riding this one!

[Cr1MiNaL]

Got an update from these guys today and circuit management are expecting completion of the track in October. I'm looking forward to riding this one!

What else are you looking forward to riding :shit::shutup:

[Kiwi Graham]

Got an update from these guys today and circuit management are expecting completion of the track in October. I'm looking forward to riding this one!

Planning on attending the walk round and chit chat session on the 26th, anyone else going?

[Lula]

What else are you looking forward to riding :shit::shutup:

The new Aprilla when it arrives!

[Jacko2]

Planning on attending the walk round and chit chat session on the 26th, anyone else going?

Hi Graham, I see on their site "On the last Sunday of every month tours will be taken of the facility at 1.00 pm. The next tour will be August 30th 2009"
???

[Kiwi Graham]

Hi Graham, I see on their site "On the last Sunday of every month tours will be taken of the facility at 1.00 pm. The next tour will be August 30th 2009"
???

Hi Jacko, yes mate they are saying August but the last Sunday of July is the 26th! I'll drop then a line and see if they have flagged the July one. Busy on the ART track day on the 30th August..............plug plug ;)

[chrispy121]

The new Aprilla when it arrives!

you rode it today in your jam jams didnt you going to get milk

[chrispy121]

went down to my local tyre shop today and they had been doing some work for the project managers truck he told me they were looking at October but he had a core sample which sounds really cool it was a little spongy but it had lots of Silica in it which will be good for grip

[Lula]

you rode it today in your jam jams didnt you going to get milk

Haha, no that was the RC8 which I test rode further than the dairy today. Will post up some proper pics riding it tomorrow on this thread:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=103164

The new Aprilla is coming up for a test ride.

I'm going on one of the Hampton Downs Ride Days so I'm looking forward to seeing how the track is, will be using one of their 600 Suzuki's from Motorcycling Events Group.

[chrispy121]

Haha, no that was the RC8 which I test rode further than the dairy today. Will post up some proper pics riding it tomorrow on this thread:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=103164

The new Aprilla is coming up for a test ride.

I'm going on one of the Hampton Downs Ride Days so I'm looking forward to seeing how the track is, will be using one of their 600 Suzuki's from Motorcycling Events Group.

ah the perfect women one that rides and brings home a different toy all the time.

[MidnightMike]

Heyyyy! Kiwi Rider Magazine too.
I made the ads :-)
You'd have to ask Darren about costs and dates - he's cool - ring him.
latest ad attached

Thats the ad I've got infont of me in Bike Rider Magazine, nice job on it.


On the subject of cost I've just done a quick comparison with Aussie tracks and the UK... (using todays exchange rate)

By comparison a day at Taupo is a bargain (even more so at somewhere like Manfield).

Considering Hampton Downs is a supposed to be a world class venue, as good as the best international circuits then $199 would seem reasonable. For me at least it works out cheaper than Taupo. However, as someone said above there would seem to be a considerable profit margin at this price so I think its right to expect the very best from this firm.

One further point of interest here is the provision of hire bikes. New GSXR600's at $350 per day with limited damage liability. This is a very viable option for anyone considering a new bike. The cost includes tyres and fuel. Just turn up and ride. If you were to buy such a bike and do, say, 10 trackdays on it it would cost considerably more than to hire one when you look at the cost of purchase and consumables and insurance etc. It also gives the opportunity to hire a bike that you may not be able to afford or would consider as a road bike. I think thats a good deal and is good for expanding participants in trackdays.

So far so good... but people will expect the best from these days.

I'm keen to rent a Gixxer 600, much better suited to this than my SV!

Im definately keen on doing one of these rider days. Wonder if they'll have a photographer down there? Would probably need a golf cart or something to get around the outfield on.


The cost for the track day is $199.00 and the cost per day for the school is $429.00 if you bring your own bike and gear. You can get two days of world class tuition and a ride day for $1,057.

Bound to be worth it in the long run aye!

[Kiwi Graham]

Hi Graham, I see on their site "On the last Sunday of every month tours will be taken of the facility at 1.00 pm. The next tour will be August 30th 2009"
???

Had it confirmed and they have changed the Web site, next track tour is this Sunday...........weather looks good too!!!

[Jacko2]

Had it confirmed and they have changed the Web site, next track tour is this Sunday...........weather looks good too!!!

Cheers Mate, might see you there.

[Kiwi Graham]

A good day was had, did a write up here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=104158

[Mort]

Looks like a further delay on the track - latest dates for the ride days and superbike school are :


28th Oct Media day
29th Oct Ride Day
30th Oct Ride Day
19th Nov California Superbike School
20th Nov California Superbike School
21st Nov Ride Day
22nd Nov Ride Day
18th Dec Ride Day
19th Dec Ride Day

[Devil]

Yes, there's only about 100m of tarmac down at the moment. The previous dates wouldn't have given the track enough time to settle and get rid of the oils n shite.

[Toot Toot]

Dunlop Targa have just been told the track is not going to be ready for them to race on. They had 25th Oct booked in. Hurridly trying to find an alternative.

[Devil]

Yep, too early for cars.
Bikes first for once :D :2thumbsup

[steelestring]

so has anyone booked for the california superbike school? when, where, and how much?:mad:

[chrispy121]

email Darren off the hamtondownsridedays he will give you the days and pricing.

went for a walk around on Sunday far out thinking of selling the r6 and getting an R1 after seeing the size of the straights.

heaps of room on the corners also

still the pit lane entrance is going to be interesting

[steelestring]

email Darren off the hamtondownsridedays he will give you the days and pricing.

went for a walk around on Sunday far out thinking of selling the r6 and getting an R1 after seeing the size of the straights.

heaps of room on the corners also

still the pit lane entrance is going to be interesting

cool bananas! will do man... i reckon the 6 is up for it!:pinch: squeeze it out!

[chrispy121]

dont worry the r6 will be there with me ringing the shite out of it at least I might get into top gear insted of only 4th at taupo

[steelestring]

dont worry the r6 will be there with me ringing the shite out of it at least I might get into top gear insted of only 4th at taupo

hehehe... you should try it on my 250:pinch: get some downhill, tail wind, drafting going on hahaha then see the number 20 creeping up on the tacho:crazy:

[Devil]

so has anyone booked for the california superbike school? when, where, and how much?:mad:

www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz

[steelestring]

www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz

bing bong.... this is your captian speaking this website is curently under construction... this does provide the same email that can be found in bikerider mag which has some good looking adds.
thank you

[Devil]

Thats right, and the dates were 5 posts above your original question and of course it's at Hampton Fucking Downs.
If you already had the information, why did you bother asking?

[Mort]

bing bong.... this is your captian speaking this website is curently under construction... this does provide the same email that can be found in bikerider mag which has some good looking adds.
thank you

Look at http://www.superbikeschool.com.au/ and you'll get the general idea. Cost is $429 per day if I remember correctly.

Just to give CSS a bit of a plug. Although the cost may be quite high it would be completely wrong to compare CSS days to a track day with instructors hanging about. The CSS course is a rigorous analysis and practice of track riding techniques. Each day is a long hard day of lessons and track exercises many of which you would/could not attempt on a track day or on the road. Once learned and used the techniques will transform your riding on track and road. It is suitable for any level of rider from novice (like me) to top racer (Example: when I did level 3 I was sat in class next to Leon Camier - currently leading the British Superbike championship. I am still in touch with him. To this day he says the CSS techniques changed his riding so its not bullshit!! Thomas Luthi is another example).

Many riders spend fortunes on faster bikes and go-faster bits and track days to improve their skills and speed. The CSS course will make any rider a better faster rider. The cost of the course is an investment in yourself which pays back every time you ride.

[/plug]

[steelestring]

Look at http://www.superbikeschool.com.au/ and you'll get the general idea. Cost is $429 per day if I remember correctly.

Just to give CSS a bit of a plug. Although the cost may be quite high it would be completely wrong to compare CSS days to a track day with instructors hanging about. The CSS course is a rigorous analysis and practice of track riding techniques. Each day is a long hard day of lessons and track exercises many of which you would/could not attempt on a track day or on the road. Once learned and used the techniques will transform your riding on track and road. It is suitable for any level of rider from novice (like me) to top racer (Example: when I did level 3 I was sat in class next to Leon Camier - currently leading the British Superbike championship. I am still in touch with him. To this day he says the CSS techniques changed his riding so its not bullshit!! Thomas Luthi is another example).

Many riders spend fortunes on faster bikes and go-faster bits and track days to improve their skills and speed. The CSS course will make any rider a better faster rider. The cost of the course is an investment in yourself which pays back every time you ride.

[/plug]


I will book it in! Thanks for the info.. I cant wait:2thumbsup

[steelestring]

Settle the fark down man.. I didnt want ruffle any feathers. My noobness has been resolved sheeeesh:whistle:

[chrispy121]

here are some pictures pit lane will be interesting

[Maki]

I wanna go and write off a gixxer or two! How much would I be looking at for the superbike school?
I reckon I would ride like my nana if I took my own bike to the track, can't stand to think of it getting a scratch..

[slowpoke]

I wanna go and write off a gixxer or two! How much would I be looking at for the superbike school?
I reckon I would ride like my nana if I took my own bike to the track, can't stand to think of it getting a scratch..

Ya gotta think like the dude in your avatar.....what would Nitro Nori do Maki-san?

[discotex]

I wanna go and write off a gixxer or two! How much would I be looking at for the superbike school?
I reckon I would ride like my nana if I took my own bike to the track, can't stand to think of it getting a scratch..

Superbike school is gonna be about $430 with your own bike. A regular trackday is $199. It'd be well worth the extra the first time to lock in good habits from the start.

$350 to hire a bike for the day with a $4.5k excess. Can have a $1k excess for $725.

Personally I think unless you're planning on pushing the envelope you are fine on your own bike. Hell you ride on the open road without crashing right? Just because it's a track doesn't mean you'll automatically crash.


Ya gotta think like the dude in your avatar.....what would Nitro Nori do Maki-san?

Well Nitro Nori would crash............. :lol:

[jasonbw]

Mornin'... did we have any Kiwi Bikers at CSS Thursday/Fridayat Hampton Downs? We sure were spoilt with some top weather!!!