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Eurodave
7th March 2005, 08:13
While out & about this morning in ChCh I noticed that NONE of the gas stations I went past displayed the new price for 96!!??

MSTRS
7th March 2005, 08:19
They haven't in the North for ages - Regular & diesel only

Krayy
7th March 2005, 08:30
Watching Top Gear last night, and in the news section they said (loosely quoted) "And in the news today, petrol prices are now over a pound per litre". Thats 3 bucks!!!

Sure it was an early 2004 show, but no indication that it should be any different now. Hell, people dont complain about the price of Coke at $2.40 for a 600ml bottle.

bear
7th March 2005, 08:35
A lot of petrol stations now only sell 98 too I've noticed. Maybe it's a trick to get in customers who want 96 and entice them into paying another 5 cents a litre and getting 98.

Monsterbishi
7th March 2005, 09:37
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...

Lou Girardin
7th March 2005, 11:44
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...

Makes me glad I ride an economical, environmentally friendly motorbicycle.

Biff
7th March 2005, 11:59
Yup, fuel is bloody expensive in the UK. That's why I give out an annoying/irritating/arrogant/belittling scoffing sound when people here moan about the price of fuel.

Whinging poms? Because they have a lot to whinge about I guess. :spudwhat:

Storm
7th March 2005, 12:01
At the end of the day, they have you by the short and curlies, so I am firmly in the just pay and ride away camp. Dont get me wrong, if I thought wingeing and bitching would get me anywhere, I'd be all over it , but it wont, so therefore, as jrandom would say "meh" :done:

**R1**
7th March 2005, 12:04
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...

SAME.........i think it costs me about $50 more a year.......but then if i cared i would have bought a cg110, and not a gas guzling Yamaha:whocares:

Maximus
7th March 2005, 12:08
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...


Here, here!!
If it means going for a ride verse not going for a ride, then I'll pay whatever (within reason of course)

Doesn't mean im happy about it tho! . . . . . . :angry2:

vifferman
7th March 2005, 12:12
Given that my bike is basically a toy, and I can't really justify having it on the basis of economy, I'm not too worried about it (although it does piss me off the amount of unnecessary "Road Tax" that the cost incorporates :angry2: ).

outlawtorn
7th March 2005, 12:21
damned if you do and damned if you don't, them fuckers can increase petrol as much as they want and have to comply...

..unless we all strike and start using horses to work and back, in which case they'll tax horse food anyway...

..aah gidee-up hosey...

T.I.E
7th March 2005, 12:24
how do we get them to lower prices. and i am waiting for the day when the hybrid motor bike comes out, or even worse the full electric bike. kilo watts will really come into it then. and you could really call it a sewing machines. remember the days when we used to laugh at them. now it may come true.

Wolf
7th March 2005, 12:27
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...
Yep, it's still cheaper per litre than milk - and we produce that here. And before anyone says "but you don't use a litre of milk to get to work in the morning", I say: Oh yeah? do you know how much coffee I have to drink before I can get out the door of a morning? :apint: I like this smilie, he drinks beer like I drink coffee...

Slingshot
7th March 2005, 12:56
Watching Top Gear last night, and in the news section they said (loosely quoted) "And in the news today, petrol prices are now over a pound per litre". Thats 3 bucks!!!

You sure they weren't talking about pounds per gallon?


I heard of an idea to lower fuel prices. It goes something like this:
Get everyone to fuel up at only one oil company (let's say BP). All of the other oil companies will start to feel the pinch as they're not getting their fair share of the market so they'll drop the prices, then BP will follow suit.

Either that...or vote in the National Government!

Maximus
7th March 2005, 13:04
[QUOTE=Slingshot]

I heard of an idea to lower fuel prices. It goes something like this:
Get everyone to fuel up at only one oil company (let's say BP). All of the other oil companies will start to feel the pinch as they're not getting their fair share of the market so they'll drop the prices, then BP will follow suit.

QUOTE]


Now here's an idea that mite actually work! What do ya reckon the chances of getting everyone to do this actually is tho?!

Wolf
7th March 2005, 13:20
how do we get them to lower prices. and i am waiting for the day when the hybrid motor bike comes out, or even worse the full electric bike. kilo watts will really come into it then. and you could really call it a sewing machines. remember the days when we used to laugh at them. now it may come true.
I've been looking into electric vehicles and It's not the motors that're holding us back, it's the portable power supply. Wellington trams, "the Unit" and a lot of our intercity trains run on electricity.

Remember, IC engines are rated in peak power, electric motors in continous power (and can peak at up to 20 times that) and, given a decent power supply, they can and do outclass infernal combustion engines.

EVs can be quite quick, powerful and responsive - even with the limitations placed on them by today's battery technology. A few more years and a few improvements in alternative power generation (like smaller, lighter hydrogen fuel cells) and they would give petrol vehicles a serious run for their money.

Batteries are bulky, heavy and don't last long, current fuel cells are even bulkier and heavier, but that will change and Chrysler has been having great success with a method of chemically storing the hydrogen (released on demand using a catalyst) that is renewable (the dehydrogenated compound can be taken back and rehydrogenated ready to be used again), safe to handle (sodium borohydride, similar to borax - laundry detergent) and has a 30mpg efficiency in mini-vans with heavy fuel cells - it can only get better. (Do a web search for the Chrysler "Natrium")

My GSX250 was given to me as a rolling frame that I was going to use for an electric motorbike project (until I buggered the LS400 and thought I'd try getting a new engine for the GSX). I still want to complete that project one day (by the time I can afford to, we'll have better electric bikes available commercially than I could build.)

If a home-converted cage with 12 massive batteries can manage 75 mles an hour, tops, and have a 35 mile range with 1990's technology, the future will hold a lot more promise. (http://jerryrig.com/convert/)

Lias
7th March 2005, 13:52
There was an internet chain letter to that effect thats been doing the rounds for a few years now. Never had any noticable effect that I've heard of.

TwoSeven
7th March 2005, 14:53
You could always make your own fuel instead of bitching about it :). Its not hard, and fairly cheap. Easiest one is Biodiesel, cheapest one is SVO (straight vege oil)

http://www.biodiesel.org/
http://www.eugeneweb.com/~bios/biod.htm
http://www.dancingrabbit.org/biodiesel/
http://www.usda.gov/news/releases/2000/10/0379.htm
http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/home/home.asp


BioPetrol is a little bit harder to make, since you kind of need a big processing plant for treating sewage and garbage.

Wolf
7th March 2005, 15:03
You could always make your own fuel instead of bitching about it.
Crank up the 'stil, maw, we's got us some 'shine to make.

Read the "Alcohol Fuel Cookbook" (can't remember the author's name) a number of years ago - fine if you have the room to do it, and easier now since the laws have laxed regarding alcohol distilling at home. Excellent book, New Zealand based as I recall, has all the bits and pieces about distilling, purifying, denaturing (rendering it undrinkable), retuning your engine (jet sizes, floats etc).

Thanks for those sites TwoSeven

inlinefour
7th March 2005, 15:04
I gave up looking at petrol prices when it went past $1/litre, now I just pump, pay, and ride...

Wanna ride then have to pay. Got job will pay and will ride. Makes me wonder about the logistics of getting a faster bike though as it is only going to become worse.
:brick:

Wolf
7th March 2005, 15:15
Wanna ride then have to pay. Got job will pay and will ride. Makes me wonder about the logistics of getting a faster bike though as it is only going to become worse.
:brick:
We'll all have to buy little nifty fifties that don't go fast but you can ride to Wellington from Auckland for about $1.95.

Then again, NAH! :no:

**R1**
7th March 2005, 17:54
Wanna ride then have to pay. Got job will pay and will ride. Makes me wonder about the logistics of getting a faster bike though as it is only going to become worse.
:brick:

But BIG bikes are soooooooooo much more fun:devil2: Gas would have 2b $10 PER L
B4 i gave up the big bikes....

enigma51
7th March 2005, 17:59
The only thing that is a bit of a mistery is why is the tax so high on petrol. Dont they get enough money from speeding.

bugjuice
7th March 2005, 18:08
I remember in the UK a few years back when a couple of guys and their tractors managed to bring almost all the UK to a grinding halt by parking in front of the oil company and stopping delivery trucks from getting out. Almost every gas station ran dry and shut down. Was actually a pretty amazing feat. As soon as word broke out that one place had gas, everyone was there, queing up around the block and being limited to x amount per vehicle. People would literally follow tankers for miles, trying to find where they stopped. I was thankful I filled up the night before it kicked off and that lasted me the week, but it went on for about 3 I think..

I also remember last year, gas here went under 90¢ at one point. I was going to take a pic of it to remember by, and post it at places and times like this, but I didn't. Ever think gas will ever be below $1 again? Don't think so..

As for the idea of bypassing a certain company, that's been round heaps of times before. In theory, it could work, but in essence, there wouldn't be enough people to make a dent in a big multi-national company. The others would have to drive up their costs, and so would that one that everyone would be going to. They'd love everyone coming to them, and they'd hike up the price within the hour! The others would have to up their price to make sure they break even on gas, they wouldn't lower it. And to drive them out of business would take months of dedication, which really wouldn't happen. Like I said, it's a good theory, but in practicality of it, I doubt it'd work..

inlinefour
7th March 2005, 21:42
But BIG bikes are soooooooooo much more fun:devil2: Gas would have 2b $10 PER L
B4 i gave up the big bikes....

Still have plans just over the horizon that involve a Fireblade...
:wari: :wari: :wari: :wari:

Jackrat
7th March 2005, 22:41
You sure they weren't talking about pounds per gallon?


I heard of an idea to lower fuel prices. It goes something like this:
Get everyone to fuel up at only one oil company (let's say BP). All of the other oil companies will start to feel the pinch as they're not getting their fair share of the market so they'll drop the prices, then BP will follow suit.

Either that...or vote in the National Government!

That was tryed a while ago and everybody got their tits in a tangle about the poor mum an dad sevice station owners being at the mercy of the evil gas Co's.
I'm sure they'd still make a killing on bog rolls an cat food but what would I know.
Fucking service stations my arse,try buying a set of points or a radiator cap.
I reckon it's about time we could buy gas at New World,then we'd see some competition aye!!
Oh sorry they might form a monopoly,an we can't have that, right??
End bleat.

Jackrat
7th March 2005, 22:48
The only thing that is a bit of a mistery is why is the tax so high on petrol. Dont they get enough money from speeding.

Supousedly the Gov't had a 6 billion deficit last year.
Must be saving that for taxi fares huh.

Slingshot
8th March 2005, 07:54
That was tryed a while ago and everybody got their tits in a tangle about the poor mum an dad sevice station owners being at the mercy of the evil gas Co's.
I'm sure they'd still make a killing on bog rolls an cat food but what would I know.
Fucking service stations my arse,try buying a set of points or a radiator cap.
I reckon it's about time we could buy gas at New World,then we'd see some competition aye!!
Oh sorry they might form a monopoly,an we can't have that, right??
End bleat.

In Wellington, Pack N Save has a gas station. It's really just a re-branded BP without the attendants though.
The good thing is, the more you spend at Pack N Save, the more discount you get ff your fuel (up to 5 or 6 cents per litre).

inlinefour
8th March 2005, 09:26
In Wellington, Pack N Save has a gas station. It's really just a re-branded BP without the attendants though.
The good thing is, the more you spend at Pack N Save, the more discount you get ff your fuel (up to 5 or 6 cents per litre).

It will then become my regular petrol station as we all need food etc...

Lou Girardin
8th March 2005, 11:30
Supousedly the Gov't had a 6 billion deficit last year.
Must be saving that for taxi fares huh.

Surplus. The deficit will happen when Labour has to buy votes, instead of National giving them away.