Fu***king ACC

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:

[MSTRS]

You have full medical records of how/when this occurred? Isn't there an appeals system?

[Nasty]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:


You need to be able to evidence it from your medical records .. .go to the doc and talk to him/her . .they should be able to help you. I would also ask to see the information which the denial was based - as you may find it came from the docter - but it is your information so they can not deny you seeing it.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

You have full medical records of how/when this occurred? Isn't there an appeals system?

Yes i do i"m just waiting to hear back from the surgon. The interesting thing is they have except the claim 6 months agoe when i hurt myself. I will be Appealing there decision for sure.

[Finn]

In the mean time i can't do my house work.

And the problem is?

[Usarka]

ACC behaved like this long before John Key came to office. The extra scrutiny is probably making them worse though.

Definitely fight it though, don't let the bastards grind you down.

[Duke girl]

All ACC have to do is get in contact with your Doctor to see whether or not they have any record of you going there about your shoulder and if your Doctor doesn't have any record of you visiting him/her about it then how can they accuse you of saying that you already had problems with your shoulder before your accident.
How would they like it if they were feeling the way you are and being treated like your a liar of trying to pull the wool over their eyes when your not.
Keep at them until the idiots realise that you are telling them the truth and not trying to rip off the system. Goodluck.

[idb]

I'm not fully up with this but...isn't it still an injury, no matter when it occured?

[Usarka]

I'm not fully up with this but...isn't it still an injury, no matter when it occured?

It could be degenerative.

[Maha]

It could be degenerative.

I think you will find its the shoulder.

[idb]

I think you will find its the shoulder.

Isn't deshoulder connected to degenerative?

[Grahameeboy]

I'm not fully up with this but...isn't it still an injury, no matter when it occured?

My thoughts...even it was degenerative and the injury event accelerated the symptoms ACC should still look at it.

[Grahameeboy]

Isn't deshoulder connected to degenerative?

No, not too Maha's Celbrium....

[yod]

No, not too Maha's Celbrium....

is that like a Belgian cerebrum?

[idb]

is that like a Belgian cerebrum?

Or a German 9mm Parabellum?

[peasea]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:

Something similar happened to a buddy of mine; he employs four guys permanently and another few contractors whenever he needs them, keeping people in work. He was putting a beam in place under a house and took too much weight on his shoulder for a few seconds. Pop!

There was a long waiting list for surgery in the public system, so he opted to go private, get back to work asap etc. The op' was a total success, he's back at work, no drain on the system and all his ACC levies are up to date.

Will ACC reimburse him? Like fuck they will.

He would have been better off sitting on his arse for six months on ACC waiting for the op in the public system, milking it for another six while he went through re-hab and keeping his seven grand in his pocket.

Unfortunately, he's too honest for that.

[Lias]

ACC is fucking useless.. Get private medical insurance.. it's not QUITE as useless.

[Grahameeboy]

ACC is fucking useless.. Get private medical insurance.. it's not QUITE as useless.

Useless...how so...drink and drive, hit a tree, need a wheelchair...get paid 80% salary...home mods...$110,000 mobility vehicle for you to drive.

Not so useless and would not be covered by Health Insurance.

Medical Insurance has exclusions just like ACC.

Taxpayers money...how would you feel if someone got compensated for something that was not covered (not saying Wendy is not being unfairly treated)...

[Mom]

Many years ago my ex popped his fu fu valve digging some drainage metal. He went to the doc who could not reduce the hernia. Came home and sat out a night, then went back to the doc who managed to put things back where they belonged. Hindsight would have seen us go straight to hospital to get it fixed. Acc claim was made and initially declined as blokes do sometimes get these hernias, it is a birth defect. But this was a genuine injury so we argued the case. We won. Not only that but ACC paid for him to have his surgery in a private hospital (we did have insurance too I have to admit) but they picked up the majority of the cost, insurance the rest. All sorted.

[SKIDA//00]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:

use the appeals system,noboby uses the appeal system and load of case dont get surgery,my mum used it for her knee op and she won and got the surgury....do it wat have you got to loose.....

[Motu]

Many years ago my ex popped his fu fu valve digging some drainage metal. He went to the doc who could not reduce the hernia. Came home and sat out a night, then went back to the doc who managed to put things back where they belonged. Hindsight would have seen us go straight to hospital to get it fixed. Acc claim was made and initially declined as blokes do sometimes get these hernias, it is a birth defect. But this was a genuine injury so we argued the case. We won. Not only that but ACC paid for him to have his surgery in a private hospital (we did have insurance too I have to admit) but they picked up the majority of the cost, insurance the rest. All sorted.

I have just run out of free options for my hernia - ACC are well set up to turn them down.Hernias don't happen from a single event...even if they do - there is a 90% chance it was pre existing and the stain just made it much more noticeable.They are more sort of repetitive strain.So no ACC for me,no public health....I'll have to go private.Not a huge cost,but it still gets my goat that after a lifetime of payments I still haven't got a single penny from the Government.I still go to work every day,but popping a piece of your gut back in place 10 times a day is super gross and not what life should be.

And yet at the same time they seem quite happy to pay out for hearing aids - a repetitive strain injury that was caused back in the '70's.I don't care if I'm half deaf,I can get by not hearing what goes on around me,but living with a hernia limits what I can do...playing with my kids....and I can't ride off road anymore - big parts of the enjoyment of my life.

[Mom]

I have just run out of free options for my hernia - ACC are well set up to turn them down.Hernias don't happen from a single event...even if they do - there is a 90% chance it was pre existing and the stain just made it much more noticeable.They are more sort of repetitive strain.So no ACC for me,no public health....I'll have to go private.Not a huge cost,but it still gets my goat that after a lifetime of payments I still haven't got a single penny from the Government.I still go to work every day,but popping a piece of your gut back in place 10 times a day is super gross and not what life should be.

And yet at the same time they seem quite happy to pay out for hearing aids - a repetitive strain injury that was caused back in the '70's.I don't care if I'm half deaf,I can get by not hearing what goes on around me,but living with a hernia limits what I can do...playing with my kids....and I can't ride off road anymore - big parts of the enjoyment of my life.

Now see that is NOT FAIR! I hear what you/they are saying about a pre-existing condition thing, but honest as I sit here typing I had never heard my ex complain before about anything that even hinted at his fu fu. I trained as a nurse and am somehow programmed to see and hear things that some dont admit to. This was a oncer, that broke through a genetic weakness. Maybe it would have gone over time, who knows, he was a young man when this happened, no history of it in the family. Maybe we were lucky to get a claim accepted.

Having a burst fu fu is NOT funny in any way shape or form. What is the waiting list for a repair in public system?

[Tink]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:

MY DAD who has been in ICU for 4 weeks and now lives...says housework will be there when your dead and gone....do what others say...fight the system, and I say ask your dr why yr not illegible for ACC?

[Motu]

broke through a genetic weakness. Maybe it would have gone over time, who knows, he was a young man when this happened, no history of it in the family. Maybe we were lucky to get a claim accepted.

Having a burst fu fu is NOT funny in any way shape or form. What is the waiting list for a repair in public system?

That's it - a pre existing weakness...so no claim.What you did do right is go to the doctor straight away - this is what ACC needs to get into action.I never go to a doctor,I only went to get a medical certificate for my license...and got him to confirm what I already knew.Too late,it had already happened.Public system is more a matter of funding,and in the present climate all funding is non existent.To get it done on the public system I will need to be on a stretcher with a strangulated hernia.It would cost the system less money to do it now.I'm getting close to not coping,it will have to be done soon.

[Redstar]

Rotton sods every injury is a new injury if you were fully signed off as fit to work the assumption is that the previous one was fully resolved otherwise you can claim on the basis that the previous was not corrected so its a claim against the previous not being resolved I am no lawyer but I Say fight

[Shaun]

Acc Have just turned down my surgery saying that i had the problem before my injury. Bull shit i didnt have any problems with my shoulder before this.

Thay have told me to get my doctor to put me on the public waiting list. In the mean time i can't do my house work properly because i minimal use of my arm which happens to be my right one.

Thanks John Keys And Acc for nothing :angry2:


TRY THIS IT WORKS MATE

Go to your local politician, and ask them to email contact your ACC case manager about this issue- I guarantee you will get fast reply about it!!!!

One goverment dept hates another looking into it, so it WILL get the ball rolling fast

I had to do it to get more surgery here after my crash

[enigma51]

All im reading is that some of you need to HTFU :buggerd:

[Mrs Busa Pete]

All im reading is that some of you need to HTFU :buggerd:

And i was going to lease you an fxr bucket but you can go and gt f**cked now is that hard enough for you.So now you will have to be sixpacks pit bitch.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Patrick]

....He was putting a beam in place under a house and took too much weight on his shoulder for a few seconds. Pop!

His name isn't "Jack" is it?

[Nasty]

All im reading is that some of you need to HTFU :buggerd:


And i was going to lease you an fxr bucket but you can go and gt f**cked now is that hard enough for you.So now you will have to be sixpacks pit bitch.:laugh::laugh::laugh:


I can always sell you a bucket enigma ... saves being a bitch to anyone :)

[peasea]

His name isn't "Jack" is it?

That's too lame even for a groan. I gave it a weak sigh.

[Patrick]

Was bored.... thread was dead... at least you responded...?

[Skyryder]

TRY THIS IT WORKS MATE

Go to your local politician, and ask them to email contact your ACC case manager about this issue- I guarantee you will get fast reply about it!!!!

One goverment dept hates another looking into it, so it WILL get the ball rolling fast

I had to do it to get more surgery here after my crash

Yes. Most people do not use their MP but they do pull some clout on occasions. But a word of caution for those that believe in the free market.

Once this is opened to competition and ACC is privatised your MP will be no use to you if you ever need him/her on these kind of issues.

Skyryder