Paul Henry [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Usarka

26th March 2009, 19:14

I'm subjected to breakfast TV at the moment while spending some quality time on the couch and saw this.

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Did he cross the line with this one? Funny bastard doing what he does best by being controversial, or insensitive prat? I'm sure it's polarised opinions.....

mattian

26th March 2009, 19:21

Its either him, or that pretentious tosser Oliver Driver on 3. what a wanker! I'd rather watch Paul Henry thanks.

Usarka

26th March 2009, 19:23

yeah this thread is probably what they were hoping for when they employed him. Certainly knows how to cause a reaction.

Big Dave

26th March 2009, 19:37

I'm subjected to breakfast TV at the moment

Can't find the 'off' button?

Usarka

26th March 2009, 19:44

Can't find the 'off' button?

Yeah the "get your lazy arse OFF the couch" button.

I have a sick note though....

2_SL0

26th March 2009, 19:46

Errrr, he didnt write the comments, he just read them out. :chase:

AllanB

26th March 2009, 19:58

I like him - it's refreshing in this PC world.

Plus - I saw that interview - she could sell rides on that mo..............

Big Dave

26th March 2009, 20:08

Get well soon.

mynameis

26th March 2009, 20:12

I used to watch it because Pipa was cute on the show, don't watch it now.

Someone should write in and tell Paul to get rid of those micky mouse glasses he has. It's so 1985.

Contacts
New slick glasses

Talk about image :yawn:

piston broke

26th March 2009, 20:15

bah, good on him ,
after all it was realy obvious.
yes the lady may have a problem,she mayhaps have done something about it before goin on tv,tho doin something may make it worse.poor lass.
if it is a condition i feel for her.
but paul is definately a funny bastard,he can laugh at himself.
good on him,he is straight up.

Wingnut

26th March 2009, 20:19

Ahhhhhhh its great - See this is just how soft the public has become. Waaaaaa waaaaaaa Everyone harden up please.

I get shit all the time about a receeding hair line. Fair enough too. You gotta be able to take it. Go Paul Henry - to hell with this PC society.

She had a Mo for fucks sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slowpoke

26th March 2009, 20:32

I used to watch it because Pipa was cute on the show, don't watch it now.

Paul isn't too bad, he's a bit like a splash of cold water: sometimes it's refreshing sometimes it's unpleasant. At least he's got a brain unlike some of the other talking heads.

As for Pippa she's one of the reasons I don't watch morning TV: prissy, self righteous, sanctimonious princess.

Genestho

26th March 2009, 20:36

I like Paul, he goes 'there', unlike most :yes:

sels1

26th March 2009, 20:46

I like Paul, he goes 'there', unlike most :yes:

Yeah, sometimes he's funny, sometimes not, but the show would be even more boring without him

oldrider

26th March 2009, 20:48

HTFU if you don't like him turn it off, she had a distinct mo and an agenda she knew what she was about going on TV.

I hate bloody greenpeace they are just a bunch of twits but to each his own.

Individual freedom of expression and all that. :niceone: John.

Usarka

26th March 2009, 20:56

HTFU if you don't like him turn it off, she had a distinct mo and an agenda she knew what she was about going on TV.

If the HTFU is for me note that I didn't voice my opinion :innocent: Besides I can't turn it off, the voices in my head get louder.

As for Pippa she's one of the reasons I don't watch morning TV: prissy, self righteous, sanctimonious princess.

I just tune out and look. Besides it's a minor reason compared to the absolute shit smudge of a program that follows breakfast on TV1.

Maybe the government should put a mandate that only intelligent programs are shown during the working day. It'll force all the DPB and dole bludgers off the couch and they might get a job.......

mynameis

26th March 2009, 21:14

Naaah Pipa wasn't tooo bad aye. Great set of jugs, a beautiful face with brains. How else do you wana start your morning ;)

jtzzr

26th March 2009, 21:16

I like the guy, he`s a smartarse, much better than Oliver Dryballs.

How do you know when too far,Is too far? Until you go too far, That`s when.

Henry was`nt even close.

oldrider

26th March 2009, 21:17

The HTFU was just for who ever wants it, I didn't nominate anyone in particular! :no: John.

Usarka

26th March 2009, 21:22

The HTFU was just for who ever wants it, I didn't nominate anyone in particular! :no: John.

Only 2 out of 22 say so far sack him :lol:

Not surprising given the demographic. I'll pop over to feminists.co.nz and see how their poll is going.

Edit: fuck me, there is a www.feminist.co.nz ! With links to classics such as http://thehairyarmpit.blogspot.com and great dialogue like:

The only emails I get are from manipulating, lying, misogynist arseholes named robynsodomitesandwiches and jaffapetebutthead. Don't email me anyone or you will be verbally abused and insulted.
I'm going to bed happy.

jtzzr

26th March 2009, 21:34

Only 2 out of 22 say so far sack him :lol:

Not surprising given the demographic. I'll pop over to feminists.co.nz and see how their poll is going.

Edit: fuck me, there is a www.feminist.co.nz ! With links to classics such as http://thehairyarmpit.blogspot.com and great dialogue like:

I'm going to bed happy.

Can you have a look for: Greeniebitchwithamo.co.nz

That would be funny.:woohoo:

But not if the missus is on there.:cold:

kermitt

26th March 2009, 22:02

good on him theres too many whingers in this country these days , besides if it wasnt for ugly chicks we wouldnt appreciate the hot ones so much

Maha

26th March 2009, 22:17

I saw it and called Anne to come check it out.....
Which means....I/we commented on it and I guess thats all Paul Henry did....
Should he have?...probably not...
Hes always right in his little world, trouble is, hes also in ours if we choose to watch TV in the mornings.
I dont mind him to be honest.

LBD

26th March 2009, 23:53

Good on him...A spade is a spade? The interview was not about Gardening, fencing, digging ditches or anything to do with spades or moustaches. Feed back on the topic please...Like here

Hinny

27th March 2009, 03:13

Its either him, or that pretentious tosser Oliver Driver on 3. what a wanker! I'd rather watch Paul Henry thanks.

Its either Oliver Driver on 3, or this pretentious tosser. what a wanker! I'd rather not watch Paul Henry thanks.

Finn

27th March 2009, 04:29

Don't watch the breakfast shows or any NZ TV news for that matter but I must say that was really funny.

I wonder if fur face from Greenpeace will start waxing now?

2_SL0

27th March 2009, 04:35

I did love his comment "Join a group" then he said something along the lines of, "there is enough of them in NZ proberly is one already."
I thought that was damn funny.

If his producer did not wish him to read the fax, why give them to him.

vtec

27th March 2009, 04:47

Woah, that's the first thing on NZ tv since flight of the conchords worth watching. He's good. Had me cracking up even at the "hooter" thing.

Trumpess

27th March 2009, 06:00

Mr Henry is one in a million. :clap:

There are times when hes over the top :yes: :rolleyes: but most of the time hes just funny :lol:
He makes me laugh, blush and gasp, all in good humour i reckon.

TVNZ won't get rid of him ... he's a "ratings" puller.
Anti PC and tells it like it is!

I agree ... theres too many soft cocks in this country!
Its just a shame when these people abide by those so called PC rules, they are so hypocritical at the end of the day. They actually remind me of christians!

:jerry:

portokiwi

27th March 2009, 06:16

Sorry I like Paul. he brings life in to tv:laugh:
He attracts the viewers,

Grizzo

27th March 2009, 06:32

Yeah he needs to take a breath!

Blossom

27th March 2009, 06:50

I don't mean to take this off topic so my 2c worth is yeah Henry is ok. I like him. I like to think when I watch tv and he at least stimulates the thought process for me.

Edit: fuck me, there is a www.feminist.co.nz ! With links to classics such as http://thehairyarmpit.blogspot.com and great dialogue like:

:blank:errr far out!
Personally I am scared of feminists. All the ones I have met so far have been really annoyed with me. Scary to think there are actually organised groups of them out there.

kiwifruit

27th March 2009, 06:58

He is one of the funniest people on nz tv

Mom

27th March 2009, 07:02

That woman had a mo. Plain and simple, it stuck out like dogs balls. She obviously is comfortable with her appearance or she would do something about it.

Paul Henry only started on it after people e-mailed him. Refreshingly un PC item on TV. Wonder what the official fall out will be?

MisterD

27th March 2009, 07:04

I used to watch it because Pipa was cute on the show, don't watch it now.

She is quite nice, but I'm a bit of an Ali Mau fan...anyone see the other morning in her horse-ridey gear...jodphurs..mmmm.

Ahem. Anyway, back on topic, Mr Henry is a top wind-up merchant we need more people prepared to say what everyone is thinking and not just on TV. But the question is: Paul, you work in the news-y area at TVNZ, how in the name of dog have you not noticed the mo on Fran "labour party spokesman" Mold?

Swoop

27th March 2009, 07:12

Wellingtonians' stand proud of your Mayor this morning.
PH attempted to railroad her on "how much the council was getting from the leaky home owner" who lost a court case.
Luckily Kerry kept coming back with the facts (cash offer of settlement, etc) and attempted to do what tvnz media fail to do... get the facts out to the public and then let them make up their own minds.

NZ Government: PLEASE sell off tvnz!

Burtha

27th March 2009, 08:32

I didnt watch this particular thingy, but I've seen him on other stuff, and IMO he's a bit of a dimwit, well, a bit of a twat really so I avoid watching him and on threads like this call him names like dimwit and twat.

Pixie

27th March 2009, 08:59

He is astoundingly ignorant.
For example,one of his frequent assertions is that should you need to see in a darkened area you would need a "pith helmet"

He obviously doesn't know what a pith helmet is.

terbang

27th March 2009, 08:59

Whilst I wasn't offended by it, I just find Henry a mouth piece with little substance. His recent reporting on the older generation bikers was just a lot of yapping and the real point was missed. But maybe that's what Nzers are all about, taking the piss and drivel. My view, he's a Paul Holmes wannabe who also struggles to make 5'.
However if you are a woman and present yourself on TV with a mustache, don't be surprised when it draws quips from the likes of Henry (in lieu of intelligent comment). But then I'm sure she wasn't surprised...

ManDownUnder

27th March 2009, 09:14

LOL what's the big deal?

Something entirely natural was on TV and he had the audacity to not deny it. Woopdy f'n do!

Lissa

27th March 2009, 09:46

I dont mind him, I think he can be quite funny and entertaining but I also think some times he goes a bit to far with his comments and I end up cringing. Yea he is arrogant, but he isnt afraid to of looking like a dick on TV either. If you dont like him dont watch it I suppose, you have the choice! I think hes just one of those people that you either like or hate.

Paulo

27th March 2009, 10:13

The Pastor

27th March 2009, 10:24

Do you guys have penis's or what?

HenryDorsetCase

27th March 2009, 10:29

FFS. get a life! get off the couch, Turn off your tv and do something, read a book polish your bike even.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't have a T.V. It just sucks you in and before you know it you find yourself watching shit like this.

I inferred (perhaps incorrectly) that the OP was confined to the couch at present and was just commenting on what a cock this particular "presenter" is.

I agree with that statement, and with yours.

I have a garage full of projects and a lot of reading to do, but I do watch TV a bit as well.

roy.nz

27th March 2009, 10:38

Good on him !!!!!!!!

Finn

27th March 2009, 10:53

:blank:errr far out!
Personally I am scared of feminists. All the ones I have met so far have been really annoyed with me. Scary to think there are actually organised groups of them out there.

They're nothing to be afraid of. They're mostly just ugly woman who are angry at men because nobody wants to have sex with them, let alone date them. Out of desperation, they often have to turn lesbian just to get some action.

They're quite harmless, unless of course they get into politics.

Naki Rat

27th March 2009, 11:01

Typical dimwit Henry approach - If you don't understand the subject in question (which for him is most things) then move onto something that his IQ can navigate.

Typical infotainment fluff as per most TV content presently just catering for the dim masses :stupid:

terbang

27th March 2009, 11:03

Do you guys have penis's or what?

Do you have a brain or what?

scumdog

27th March 2009, 11:05

Usarka

27th March 2009, 11:05

FFS. get a life! get off the couch, Turn off your tv and do something, read a book polish your bike even.

Read shit loads of books since getting out of hospital. Getting off the couch hasn't been quite so easy. Thanks for the advice though!

Paulo

27th March 2009, 11:30

Read shit loads of books since getting out of hospital. Getting off the couch hasn't been quite so easy. Thanks for the advice though!

Ah well I hope you are mending quickly :Oops:

Matt Bleck

27th March 2009, 11:33

:laugh: he is fookin classic, he says what everyone is thinking but to scared to say!

Finn

27th March 2009, 11:46

Typical dimwit Henry approach - If you don't understand the subject in question (which for him is most things) then move onto something that his IQ can navigate.

The subject was facial hair on a woman. What's there to know?

McJim

27th March 2009, 13:07

Well I feel the need to cry. I have such a bad facial hair problem sometimes I need to shave every day just to look respectable. :rofl:

Maybe nobody told the chick she had a 'tash. Maybe the laser treatment she needs is for being myopic. You would think you would address an apearance issue like that before going on telly wouldn't you?

Paul Henry is still a tosser though.

Usarka

27th March 2009, 13:17

I have such a bad facial hair problem sometimes I need to shave every day just to look respectable. :rofl:

I think you missed out the words "try to". :laugh:

Dooly

27th March 2009, 13:46

That sheila's had the mo for years, I'm surprised it has'nt grown into a full beard by now.:blink:

Brian d marge

27th March 2009, 14:08

Only 2 out of 22 say so far sack him :lol:

Not surprising given the demographic. I'll pop over to feminists.co.nz and see how their poll is going.

Edit: fuck me, there is a www.feminist.co.nz (http://www.feminist.co.nz) ! With links to classics such as http://thehairyarmpit.blogspot.com and great dialogue like:

I'm going to bed happy.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh :wacko::gob::sick:

reality check ......... http://18kinadult.x.fc2.com/1pondo/535_533/images/0004.jpg

ahhhhhh better .....

Stephen

mynameis

27th March 2009, 16:08

Paul Henry should have turned around and said I tot I saw a scary puddy cat wid a big moustache...0o0h I did I did...look :laugh:

Duc

27th March 2009, 16:28

scumdog

27th March 2009, 16:34

wbks

27th March 2009, 16:43

Paul Henry is basically an over opinionated bully. He is a classic case - "I was bullied as a kid so now its payback time".

He gets his rocks off by publicly humiliating his work colleagues, guests, friends and anyone else in reach. That is emotional bullying and what is always interesting is how little of it he can take in return. Watch him turn "dark" when he get some of his own medicine.

Imagine working with the guy. They cringe constantly and visibly because they know where the boundaries are like most decent people.

Clever as an entertainer he maybe ...but he can not help being a giggling knob of dubious sexuality. Something he has not allowed himself to acknowledge yet despite his massive ego.

He would not even rate in international broadcasting circles and will never find work outside of NZ or the questionable values of his TVNZ managers.Haha are you a head doctor? Classic case, aye... He seems like a nice guy to me. He says things that unfortunately a lot of people are too stuck up to see the humor in, but when people get offended its even more funny... I don't really see why he's a bully, though. He just mucks around and has fun. Since when the fuck was anything he did enough to qualify him as an "emotional bully"? HTFU PEOPLE... Humiliating his work mates? Like giving Peter a bit of shit occasionally? Quick, somebody shoot me - I'm publicly humiliating all my friends!

mynameis

27th March 2009, 18:49

Haha are you a head doctor? Classic case, aye... He seems like a nice guy to me. He says things that unfortunately a lot of people are too stuck up to see the humor in, but when people get offended its even more funny... I don't really see why he's a bully, though. He just mucks around and has fun. Since when the fuck was anything he did enough to qualify him as an "emotional bully"? HTFU PEOPLE... Humiliating his work mates? Like giving Peter a bit of shit occasionally? Quick, somebody shoot me - I'm publicly humiliating all my friends!

Bang bang :2guns: down goes wbks

He's not a bully he just doesn't unfortunately know when to shut up. Slightly tunnel visioned if anything than a bully. He sometimes see's things black or white.

Would rather him than a boring PC guy on the show. I remember once he was away and that boring Tim Wilson guy was there. Pppfff....t.

scrivy

27th March 2009, 20:44

I like the fact that he is un-pc!!

At least he asks hard questions at times and demands answers from politicians etc.

firecracker

27th March 2009, 20:45

Paul used to piss me off.........but somehow I now find him humouring. There's a childish honesty about him that's refreshing. Yes, he was insensitive but at the end of the day he just said out loud what everyone was thinking.

<G>

28th March 2009, 08:30

Note to self: must make sure to wax mo before going on a KB ride

clarification: must polish mo(torcycle) etc etc...

Murray

28th March 2009, 09:10

Note to self: must make sure to wax mo before going on a KB ride

And not wax mo when on a greenpeace rally!!

munterk6

28th March 2009, 14:15

Well, he made me laugh whilst watchin that clip. Gets my vote.:yes:

PrincessBandit

28th March 2009, 14:58

That is the first time I have truly laughed so hard while in kb, that I've been reduced to tears. Sure, you feel for Stephanie, since she happened to be the subject of mo-gate, but it was pretty funny. I'm sure most of us, while the "good" pc side of us knows we're not supposed to laugh publically at these sorts of things, how many of us can't help but piddle ourselves with hilarity watching another person rush headlong into the pooh-trap?

I think he often comes across as a :tugger: but that was pants-wetting material!!!!

Winston001

28th March 2009, 15:28

Anyone got a link to a pic of this unfortunate woman? Hard to know what Henry was referring to.

Skyryder

28th March 2009, 15:37

scumdog

28th March 2009, 15:49

The woman was invited as a 'guest' and as soon as she has departed Henry then proceeds to insult her by reading out viewers comments knowing that these were a bit 'iffy.'

Appalingly bad tast but then what do you expect from a 'prat?'

Skyryder

Aw c'mon, somebody who KNOWS they have a mo (and shouldn't) turns up and you're suprised by the comment??

(Kinda like turning up at a biker get-together wearing a tassled jacket - you just KNOW somebody will comment)

It's not like she had a deformity, she COULD have 'tidied-up'.

But not the best of manners on national TV I have to admit..

McJim

28th March 2009, 15:54

He is doing what he is paid to do - win share of viewers. By being controversial he actually gets more viewers. For some reason unknown to me the majority of opinionated people go out of their way to find objectionable media whether it be magazines, newspapers, tv or websites. As a result they unwittingly perpetuate the very shit they are trying to get rid of.

If you don't like something in media then don't respond to that medium - don't read, view or surf and for goodness sake don't buy anything that was advertised on that medium coz that's what pays their wages - ad money.

He seems to have done his job well with this little series of coments.

Maha

28th March 2009, 15:57

Anyone got a link to a pic of this unfortunate woman? Hard to know what Henry was referring to.

Its in the first post au!

Usarka

28th March 2009, 15:58

He seems to have done his job well with this little series of coments.

I'm getting a nice wee cheque from TVNZ for this thread :whistle:

Maha

28th March 2009, 16:01

I'm getting a nice wee cheque from TVNZ for this thread :whistle:

Part of it could end up on 'Breakfast' monday morning....via email...stay tuned...:lol:

Skyryder

28th March 2009, 16:13

Aw c'mon, somebody who KNOWS they have a mo (and shouldn't) turns up and you're suprised by the comment??

(Kinda like turning up at a biker get-together wearing a tassled jacket - you just KNOW somebody will comment)

It's not like she had a deformity, she COULD have 'tidied-up'.

But not the best of manners on national TV I have to admit..

Even Henry's co-host was embaressed by his behavour.

Yep tassled jackets................not my thing :dodge: but hey us guys have all got one.:beer:

Skyryder

ajturbo

28th March 2009, 19:55

that is funny shit!

Maha

29th March 2009, 07:35

Question I have is ''why he was given the emails to read out in the first place''? He probably wouldn't have fired the bullets if he wasn't given the gun.

Sidewinder

29th March 2009, 15:22

omg what a good koont! green bling for him!

Blackshear

29th March 2009, 15:56

Come on... It's not like she could have been totally oblivious to her facial hair, and it's only a minute of her life, if that, to get rid of it for a t.v appearance.

MacD

29th March 2009, 21:48

Maybe Amy has a tip for removing unwanted hair?

Nutella (1:40 in) will never be the same...

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Usarka

29th March 2009, 22:07

Chloe (the one getting spread - ooer) is the producer evidently. Looks like the breakfast team has a guy with a good eye doing the hiring..... :innocent:

dipshit

29th March 2009, 22:47

At least he's better than the pansie that follows...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-itNwjWnq-Q :sick:

Oscar

30th March 2009, 08:00

The woman was invited as a 'guest' and as soon as she has departed Henry then proceeds to insult her by reading out viewers comments knowing that these were a bit 'iffy.'

Appalingly bad tast but then what do you expect from a 'prat?'

Skyryder

Not a guest, another lobby group pushing their own barrow.
Any organisation as media savvy as Greenpeace should know the perils of breakfast TV with Paul Henry.

Finn

30th March 2009, 08:55

Fur face herself hasn't even made a big deal about this. It's just the unwashed few and Henry haters that seem to care.

Skyryder

30th March 2009, 09:42

Not a guest, another lobby group pushing their own barrow.
Any organisation as media savvy as Greenpeace should know the perils of breakfast TV with Paul Henry.

She was invited to appear on the show. That makes her a guest.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/features/2298244/Mr-Henry-s-hairy-moment.

Skyryder

Drogen Omen

30th March 2009, 10:13

He was just reading out the people opinions... I have to admit all i saw was a Hairy Mo on a woman...

Cant remember what the hell she was talking about cause the Mo was so big and dark...

Oscar

30th March 2009, 11:51

She was invited to appear on the show. That makes her a guest.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/features/2298244/Mr-Henry-s-hairy-moment.

Skyryder

She's a pressure group spokesperson.
Fair game.

Winston001

30th March 2009, 12:18

Had another look at the vid but can't say her "mo" was obvious - only about 10secs of her before Henry got going. Guess you had to be there.

Undecided about this. Stephanie Mills appearance has nothing to do with what she says. If she was in a wheel-chair would Henry mock her? If she was a thalidomide victim, would he do that? Look - no arms - just calling it like it is.....:doh:

scumdog

30th March 2009, 16:38

Kiwi Graham

30th March 2009, 17:10

Its not bloody rocket science is it! "I'm on telly this morning, better check my appearance"
The mother-in-law can grow a pretty good mo bless her but she whips it off if she's going out or expecting visitors etc.
For christs sake most blokes would shave before going on the telly!?

Indoo

30th March 2009, 17:27

I think it takes more balls to appear on T.V with that kinda mo than most of the guys commenting against it in this thread have. Who cares, she doesn't.

I love her reply though.

"It's trademark Paul Henry and there are bigger issues in the world to worry about - like people dying of leukaemia from French [nuclear] testing. I think he likes being controversial - that's a polite way to put it. This is who I am and people make choices about who they are. "I have a really wonderful family, three gorgeous kids, a loving husband, great friends, really challenging job that I do part-time around all the other things I do in my life, and I love my life. "I'm secure with myself and I feel sorry that these people are so insecure about either their own appearance or mine. This is not about me, it's about them."

MisterD

30th March 2009, 18:41

There's nowt quite as righteous as a lefty offended on someone else's behalf...<_<

tri boy

30th March 2009, 19:20

He's a little wank stain of a man, who would be too gutless to offend the woman to her face.
A great example of the low standards accepted by broadcasting agency's in NZ.

SARGE

30th March 2009, 19:27

he's more irritating than Skidmark joining the City Impact Church

scumdog

30th March 2009, 19:28

He's a little wank stain of a man, who would be too gutless to offend the woman to her face.
A great example of the low standards accepted by broadcasting agency's in NZ.

Oooo, I bet THAT really offended Paul Henry.....

How DO you know so much about the man to judge him so?????

tri boy

31st March 2009, 06:50

If the tosser feels the need to publicly rub salt into a persons physical appearance using a massive media like public morning television just to get his silly little jollies, then I believe my opinion of the little tosser is well backed.
The fact that he only pops up on "fluff television" speaks volumes of his credentials.
International reporter, investigator he most certainly is not. I do not need to slip on shit, to know it is shit.

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 09:50

She's a pressure group spokesperson.
Fair game.

So going by your standards anyone appearing on the tele that opposes the wire rope barriers (BRONZ) is 'fair game.' Or is fair game just those that do not share your views?

I can just imagine the howls or outrage on here if Henry read out adverse comments from veiwers emails after the BRONZ 'spokesman' had finished and gone off air.

This is not about pressure groups, fair game or anything else. It's just common decency and good manners. Henry has neither. It is sexism at its very worst.

Skyryder

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 09:54

Oscar

31st March 2009, 10:35

So going by your standards anyone appearing on the tele that opposes the wire rope barriers (BRONZ) is 'fair game.' Or is fair game just those that do not share your views?

I can just imagine the howls or outrage on here if Henry read out adverse comments from veiwers emails after the BRONZ 'spokesman' had finished and gone off air.

This is not about pressure groups, fair game or anything else. It's just common decency and good manners. Henry has neither. It is sexism at its very worst.

Skyryder

I have no doubt Mr Henry would do exactly that if the BRONZ person was some mouth breathing troglodyte in a leather jacket.

This is entertainment, fluff for the great unwashed.
I'll bet their viewing figures have gone up now after Henry's unfortunate comments. Living rooms all over the country are filled with quivering anticipation waiting to be deliciously outraged by his next faux pax ...the chattering classes love it.

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 11:17

I have no doubt Mr Henry would do exactly that if the BRONZ person was some mouth breathing troglodyte in a leather jacket.

He may well do, but that is not the point that I raised.

According to you (1)anyone who belongs to a pressure group is fair game for riducule even if this pressure group is acting in 'your' interests. If this is not the case then I can only conclude (2) 'fair game' is anyone who shares a different view other than your own

Which is it (1) or (2)?

Skyryder

Oscar

31st March 2009, 11:26

He may well do, but that is not the point that I raised.

According to you (1)anyone who belongs to a pressure group is fair game for riducule even if this pressure group is acting in 'your' interests. If this is not the case then I can only conclude (2) 'fair game' is anyone who shares a different view other than your own

Which is it (1) or (2)?

Skyryder

Probably (1), keeping in mind that the last pressure group I belonged to was HART and they were subjected to a fair bit of abuse and ridicule.

BTW - I was thinking about your remark saying that Henry's comments were sexist. I don't see how, as it was a remark about her personal appearance, rather than women as a whole. For example there have been plenty of comments in the media about Koro Wetere's "comb-over" (I heard a comment on National Radio just the other day, by coincidence) - is this sexist?

In fact, how does this differ from the subject matter?
Is it only bad to comment on a woman's appearance?

rosie631

31st March 2009, 11:48

Good on him. Call a spade a spade. Sick of all the PC shit.

JimO

31st March 2009, 12:39

Good on him. Call a spade a spade. Sick of all the PC shit.

dont think your allowed to call them spades anymore

Winston001

31st March 2009, 13:19

dont think your allowed to call them spades anymore

ROFL 10 char :laugh:

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 16:15

Probably (1), keeping in mind that the last pressure group I belonged to was HART and they were subjected to a fair bit of abuse and ridicule.

BTW - I was thinking about your remark saying that Henry's comments were sexist. I don't see how, as it was a remark about her personal appearance, rather than women as a whole. For example there have been plenty of comments in the media about Koro Wetere's "comb-over" (I heard a comment on National Radio just the other day, by coincidence) - is this sexist?

In fact, how does this differ from the subject matter?
Is it only bad to comment on a woman's appearance?

HART?? Well ya gone up a notch on my scale.:msn-wink:

Yes I do see it as sexist comment. First and foremost the lady in question has every right to appear as she pleases. That is a fundamental choice and this is often quoted here on KB.

Henry’s comments become sexist when he applies a standard that is expected, in as much that woman should not have facial hair. This in itself is a perception of what is considered by our society to be unacceptable on a woman. What Henry fails to recognize is one of choice and it goes without saying any comments on anyone’s personal appearance………….especially when they do not have the right of reply is both arrogant and repugnant.

Skyryder

Finn

31st March 2009, 16:19

Henry’s comments become sexist when he applies a standard that is expected, in as much that woman should not have facial hair.

Oh stop being a panty wetter Skyryder. Woman should not have facial hair. The only exceptions are lesbians, greenies and grandmothers.

Oscar

31st March 2009, 16:21

HART?? Well ya gone up a notch on my scale.:msn-wink:

Yes I do see it as sexist comment. First and foremost the lady in question has every right to appear as she pleases. That is a fundamental choice and this is often quoted here on KB.

Henry’s comments become sexist when he applies a standard that is expected, in as much that woman should not have facial hair. This in itself is a perception of what is considered by our society to be unacceptable on a woman. What Henry fails to recognize is one of choice and it goes without saying any comments on anyone’s personal appearance………….especially when they do not have the right of reply is both arrogant and repugnant.

Skyryder

Yeah, but 1981 was a while ago - some of the people who tried to bust my head are actually speaking to me again..

Anyway, now relate it to Mr. Wetere.
Why is it OK (and not sexist) to take the piss outta him?

Finn

31st March 2009, 16:22

Excellent.......

http://www.mrvintage.co.nz/shop/Browse+by+Category/Kiwiana/Paul+Henry+Moustache-Gate+MENS+t-shirt.html

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 19:25

Anyway, now relate it to Mr. Wetere.
Why is it OK (and not sexist) to take the piss outta him?

I have no knowledge of Wetere's comb over so can not comment as to whether any comments on his combover are sexist or not

However there are some salient points on sexist comments that differ from normal comments.

First and foremost is that a sexist comment is made by one sex about the other. The comment fails the sexist 'test' for want of a better word when the comment is made concerning ones 'own' sex. So in the case of
Wetere if the comment was made by a female then it may well have been 'sexist' but if by a male then no. It is not so much the comment itself but more to do with the sex of the person who is making it.

The second point that needs addressing is that sexism is usualy associated with some kind of comment that is unflattering and where a double standard is used. As I am unware of the comments concerning Wetere I can not offer an opinion on this.

Skyryder

Lias

31st March 2009, 19:55

Paul Henry is the only thing I bother to watch on TV1. If they got rid of him they mayswell shut down the entire channel.

Seriously anyone who was offended by this needs to fuck right off and move to some gay PC country..

McJim

31st March 2009, 20:05

Good on him. Call a spade a spade. Sick of all the PC shit.

dont think your allowed to call them spades anymore

Yeah...I'm just wondering if anyone else is aware that 'Spade' is a derogatory term for the people now known as African Americans?

cindymay

31st March 2009, 20:10

FF sake it is humor and he is good at it.

Oh stop being a panty wetter Skyryder. Woman should not have facial hair. The only exceptions are lesbians, greenies and grandmothers. That is almost as funny as the clip.

Paul Henry is the only thing I bother to watch on TV1. If they got rid of him they mayswell shut down the entire channel.

Seriously anyone who was offended by this needs to fuck right off and move to some gay PC country..
This is the gay PC country.

Oscar

31st March 2009, 20:15

I have no knowledge of Wetere's comb over so can not comment as to whether any comments on his combover are sexist or not

However there are some salient points on sexist comments that differ from normal comments.

First and foremost is that a sexist comment is made by one sex about the other. The comment fails the sexist 'test' for want of a better word when the comment is made concerning ones 'own' sex. So in the case of
Wetere if the comment was made by a female then it may well have been 'sexist' but if by a male then no. It is not so much the comment itself but more to do with the sex of the person who is making it.

The second point that needs addressing is that sexism is usualy associated with some kind of comment that is unflattering and where a double standard is used. As I am unware of the comments concerning Wetere I can not offer an opinion on this.

Skyryder

Like this?

The NZ Listener 7/2006
http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3453/columnists/6528/a_lot_to_learn.html;jsessionid=CC1564884BA96D90480 E051E8229228F

Perhaps Nicky Watson could cut a yard off her own haystack and extend a strand to her friend to prevent a Koro Wetere comb-over letting the side down (or up) when the wind is blowing the wrong way while they’re on location.

The Author is Jane Bowron, and I do not recall a fuss over this. It's definitely sexist by your definition (and in such a lefty mag, too- tut tut..)

The NZ Herald, March 1st 2009
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10113069

The trademark comb-over is long gone. Former Maori Affairs Minister Koro Wetere has conceded defeat in the follicle cover-up.

This was by a man: Jon Stokes

This Wetere reference has been around for years, and shows the double standard in our society allows denigration of mens appearance but not wimmin.
Maybe a subject for another thread...

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 22:28

Like this?

The NZ Listener 7/2006
http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3453/columnists/6528/a_lot_to_learn.html;jsessionid=CC1564884BA96D90480 E051E8229228F

The Author is Jane Bowron, and I do not recall a fuss over this. It's definitely sexist by your definition (and in such a lefty mag, too- tut tut..)

The NZ Herald, March 1st 2009
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10113069

This was by a man: Jon Stokes

This Wetere reference has been around for years, and shows the double standard in our society allows denigration of mens appearance but not wimmin.
Maybe a subject for another thread...

Nope flippant. Don't ask me to explain the difference............use a dictionary.

Skyryder

Oscar

31st March 2009, 22:31

Nope flippant. Don't ask me to explain the difference............use a dictionary.

Skyryder

Flippant?
Did you ask Koro if he thinks its flippant?
Are you saying he couldn't be offended because he's a man?

Lets get real here, despite my earlier comments (forgive me if I sometimes disguise my true opinion in the interests of a good argument), I think Henry crossed the line (having said that, I do think the reaction is hysterical, and sexist).
Derogatory comments on anyone's appearance, be they male or female, is uncouth. As the comment is directed at one person, the offense caused therein can only really be experienced by that one person. So who are you to say that the mustache comment was more or less hurtful and/or distasteful than the comb comment?

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 22:40

FF sake it is humor and he is good at it.
That is almost as funny as the clip.

This is the gay PC country.

Those that laugh at others misfortune usually can not laugh at their own.

There are exceptions and I will give you the benifit of the doubt.

Occasionly Finn does get some humour directed at me that on occasions brings a smile to my face.

Skyryder

scumdog

31st March 2009, 22:43

Those that laugh at others misfortune usually can not laugh at their own.

There are exceptions and I will give you the benifit of the doubt.

Occasionly Finn does get some humour directed at me that on occasions brings a smile to my face.

Skyryder

I can laugh at my misfortunes - what else is there to do??

Oscar

31st March 2009, 22:53

I can laugh at my misfortunes - what else is there to do??

Occasionally I write about my misfortunes for Kiwi Rider.
Hell, sometimes I even get paid...(but most of the time I do it for the laugh).

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 22:58

I can laugh at my misfortunes - what else is there to do??

So can I. It's one of the left overs from the Freezing Works. KB a pretty good training ground too.

Skyryder

Skyryder

31st March 2009, 23:07

Flippant?
Did you ask Koro if he thinks its flippant?
Are you saying he couldn't be offended because he's a man?

Lets get real here, despite my earlier comments (forgive me if I sometimes disguise my true opinion in the interests of a good argument), I think Henry crossed the line (having said that, I do think the reaction is hysterical, and sexist).
Derogatory comments on anyone's appearance, be they male or female, is uncouth. As the comment is directed at one person, the offense caused therein can only really be experienced by that one person. So who are you to say that the mustache comment was more or less hurtful and/or distasteful than the comb comment?

It's why I was not wanting to comment any further on this. You argue for arguements sake not for any belief one way or the other and it shows in your comments.

I have not said that the moustach comment was more hurtfull one way or the other. I simply believe that if I was invited into your home you would have the good manners not to pass derogutaory comments about me after I had left.

This is basicly what Henry has done. He had a guest on his show then when she had left proceeded to read emails from viewers that were less than complimentary. Now some may find that humourouse etc. OK their choice..........not mine. End of story.

Skyryder

Brian d marge

1st April 2009, 00:59

Tha bird had a mo .... tidy ya self up ... :calm:..

Seriously not good , all the stuff in my fridge , that green , smells like shyite.. green isn't a good colour , on food , or birds ,

Stephen

Lias

1st April 2009, 10:37

Those that laugh at others misfortune usually can not laugh at their own.

Just to take a complete detour, have you ever noticed that almost all humour revolves around the misery, suffering, misfortune, ridiculing, singling out, or putting down of others?

Sit back, and think about all the good jokes you know, and I suspect youll find an element of schadenfruede in all of them.

Skyryder

1st April 2009, 11:41

Just to take a complete detour, have you ever noticed that almost all humour revolves around the misery, suffering, misfortune, ridiculing, singling out, or putting down of others?

Sit back, and think about all the good jokes you know, and I suspect youll find an element of schadenfruede in all of them.

Yes that is true. Politicians of all political hue, personalities of the media etc. All in all not too many people get upset about this unless you are dictator of some tinpot republic.

But there is a vast difference between humour and rudeness.

I doubt very much if Henry would have commented adversley if he had a guest who had a cleft lip or some other blemish. There are some areas that in my view are taboo. One you do not insult a guest. It was interesting to note that Henry's comments only happened after the interview had ended. The fact that Henry's comments only occurred after the interview had ended suggests to me that Henry knew what he was doing was inappropiate. Even his co-host was embarressed. It was a 'cheap' shot at a woman who had no way of defending herself by a man who in doing so demeaned himself far more than his victim.

Skyryder

Winston001

1st April 2009, 12:01

Lets get real here, despite my earlier comments (forgive me if I sometimes disguise my true opinion in the interests of a good argument), I think Henry crossed the line (having said that, I do think the reaction is hysterical, and sexist).

Derogatory comments on anyone's appearance, be they male or female, is uncouth. As the comment is directed at one person, the offense caused therein can only really be experienced by that one person. So who are you to say that the mustache comment was more or less hurtful and/or distasteful than the comb comment?

Great argument both of you guys, and nicely put Oscar.

The Stranger

1st April 2009, 12:13

Ok, I admit it.
I thought that bar maid at the Speight's Ale House in Albany was hot.

Finn

1st April 2009, 12:26

I think I get it. That Greenpeace woman with the 5 o'clock shadow is Skyryders wife... or daughter, or sister.

The Stranger

1st April 2009, 13:37

Skyryders wife... or daughter, or sister.

I'll go for "D" - All of the above.

Swoop

1st April 2009, 14:22

I think I get it. That Greenpeace woman with the 5 o'clock shadow is Skyryders wife... or daughter, or sister.
Good. He can purchase his loved one a Mach-3 razor or one of Mr Remington's finest products.

ital916

1st April 2009, 15:44

Funily enough, with everyone bitching and moaning, the lady in question actually doesnt give a fuck herself that paul henry commented on her mo. I thought it was funny.....wish I could grow a mo that big.;)

new zealand is a giant waaaaaahmbulance. Bring back skyrockets and double happys..... *trails off*

ital916

1st April 2009, 15:50

Yes that is true. Politicians of all political hue, personalities of the media etc. All in all not too many people get upset about this unless you are dictator of some tinpot republic.

But there is a vast difference between humour and rudeness.

I doubt very much if Henry would have commented adversley if he had a guest who had a cleft lip or some other blemish. There are some areas that in my view are taboo. One you do not insult a guest. It was interesting to note that Henry's comments only happened after the interview had ended. The fact that Henry's comments only occurred after the interview had ended suggests to me that Henry knew what he was doing was inappropiate. Even his co-host was embarressed. It was a 'cheap' shot at a woman who had no way of defending herself by a man who in doing so demeaned himself far more than his victim.

Skyryder

I think you're taking it too seriosuly bud, see my point above. Everyone knew she had a mo, she knew she had a mo, she knew everyone watching the interview would know she had a mo. I think commenting on the mo during the interview would insult her more because of the fact it would take away from the topic of the interview. Who cares if afterwards they were like, she had a mo. Waaaaaaa, I dont think she would appreciate you having a cry on her behalf. She doesnt care, obviously you need to take a htfu pill not her hehe.

Peace

Skyryder

1st April 2009, 16:00

I think you're taking it too seriosuly bud, see my point above. Everyone knew she had a mo, she knew she had a mo, she knew everyone watching the interview would know she had a mo. I think commenting on the mo during the interview would insult her more because of the fact it would take away from the topic of the interview. Who cares if afterwards they were like, she had a mo. Waaaaaaa, I dont think she would appreciate you having a cry on her behalf. She doesnt care, obviously you need to take a htfu pill not her hehe.

Peace

I just raise counter arguements for others entertainment. Win lose or draw.....not that important.

Skyryder.

Oscar

1st April 2009, 16:17

I just raise counter arguements for others entertainment. Win lose or draw.....not that important.

Skyryder.

You mean like:

You argue for arguements sake not for any belief one way or the other and it shows in your comments.

Skyryder

1st April 2009, 16:18

I think I get it. That Greenpeace woman with the 5 o'clock shadow is Skyryders wife... or daughter, or sister.

There ya go again. Run out of fun and ya go and get personal.

Skyryder

Skyryder

1st April 2009, 16:41

You mean like:

No not at all.

There is always an element of my personal belief in my comments. I see little reason to argue from a 'position' that I do not hold. Although it is usefull as a mental exercise to ascertain likely counter arguments to the ones that I may use. But at the end of day win lose or draw..............no one cares so why should I? But I suspect that you hold a differing opinion on this.............

Skyryder

Storm

1st April 2009, 18:37

Don't be pretending like you dont come here for the arguments :D

Winston001

1st April 2009, 19:09

Don't be pretending like you dont come here for the arguments :D

Oh no he doesn't!

Oscar

1st April 2009, 19:25

But I suspect that you hold a differing opinion on this.............

Skyryder

No I don't...

ital916

1st April 2009, 19:49

lets keep it on topic guys....women with moustaches remember!

I remember being on a bus once and this guy in his fifties with a beard got on the bus. It was full so I offered my seat, "excuse me sir, you can have this seat".

Turned out it was a woman :sweatdrop

Winston001

3rd April 2009, 22:16

McJim

3rd April 2009, 22:18

So.....is this the five minute argument or the full half hour? :D

That's not argument - that's just contradiction.

Oscar

3rd April 2009, 22:19

That's not argument - that's just contradiction.

No it isn't...

Winston001

3rd April 2009, 22:27

Yes it is.

Usarka

3rd April 2009, 22:42

That's not argument - that's just contradiction.

I thought this was contra-diction......:scratch:

Indiana_Jones

3rd April 2009, 22:47

Nigger just tells it like it is

-Indy

Winston001

3rd April 2009, 22:48

I thought this was contra-diction......:scratch:

:bleh:

No it isn't. Look, if I'm arguing with you, I must be taking up a contradictory position.

Winston001

3rd April 2009, 22:49

Nigger just tells it like it is

-Indy

No no, thats abuse, you want the next room with Mr Skidmark......

Usarka

3rd April 2009, 22:50

:bleh:

No it isn't. Look, if I'm arguing with you, I must be taking up a contradictory position.

I agree, but you are wrong.

Hold on I think I may have this contraindicating thing now....

Winston001

3rd April 2009, 22:58

I agree, but you are wrong.

Stick to the script smarty-pants.....:laugh:

An argument is an intellectual process. A set of connected statements designed to support a proposition, not the automatic gainsaying of the other party. :spanking:

DarkLord

4th April 2009, 00:22

Hinny

5th April 2009, 07:57

All the guy was doing was reading out comments. They weren't even his.

How dare he rock the boat a bit and stir shit up in people's lives that they are keeping repressed and don't want to deal with, and will quickly try to bury again if it is exposed.

Life takes no prisoners. Life stirs shit up. Things happen that you won't like. Sometimes, instead of bleating about it like a bunch of sheep, as the hate mailers did to him, you just need to take responsibility for your own heart and your own response, deal with it, and move on.

He's still a dick. A vacuous, inane, giggling fool.
Also a failed National Party candidate prospect. I thought he would have fitted right in with his shallow focus.
I notice that nobody has mentioned that the subject of his derision also has a fabulous head of hair, a skull full of brains, and a heart full of compassion.
I don't know about her tits.