Retards on the Southern this morning...

[newby]

I was cruising down (in my car) the southern motorway between Drury and Bombay this morning. To the two bikes riding there, one a Yamaha, and i think the other was a Suzuki,

A. You look like you are retarded riding like that together.
B. You are just helping all other motorists justify the "fucken idiot bikes" metality alot of them have, which is not a good thing.

[Ragingrob]

What were they doing?

[newby]

Just riding side by side, in a lane each, swerving back and forth across the lanes.

Maybe if your on a racetrack and need to warm your tyres or something? But on the southern motorway, with other traffic around, you look like a fuckwit, to put it politely.

[Ragingrob]

Maybe they don't really care what people think of them? Doesn't sound like they were doing anything dangerous.

Dance like noone's watching!

[dipshit]

Maybe they don't really care what people think of them?

Quite possibly so. That's why they come across as just another couple of retards on bikes.

[Ragingrob]

Quite possibly so. That's why they come across as just another couple of retards on bikes.

I bet half the cars are thinking "Damn that looks like fun, wish I had that much freedom!".

[Blatman]

I saw a similar thing recently, my first instinct was 'what a dick' then a second later I remembered I used to do that when I was a teen and young and free with no kids, mortgage, boss breathing down my back....sigh....

[dipshit]

I bet half the cars are thinking "Damn that looks like fun, wish I had that much freedom!".

I can imagine that's a delusion most wankers on bikes have.

[Ragingrob]

I can imaging that's a delusion most wankers on bikes have.

Wow, so one can't even muck around in their own lane just swerving a little bit? I think it's called having fun or passing time. I think it'd be more the "wankers" in cars that think negatively of a biker doing that when it's creating no danger or annoyance whatsoever.

Get a life!

[dipshit]

Wow, so one can't even muck around in their own lane just swerving a little bit? I think it's called having fun or passing time.


The wankers in the stunting forum think other road users are jealous and that they wish they could be just like them when they are out fucking around on the motorway too.

Delusional.

[Usarka]

Burn them.

[vtec]

People get angry due to a subconscious jealousy a lot. That's why people used to abuse me on my bicycle when I was working as a bicycle courier. Cause they were jealous of the freedom I had, and they were frustrated as all hell sitting in their cars. So what they weaved a bit. My heart pumps custard for you. As long as you weren't trying to lane share with them they should be fine. Find a bigger fish to fry. There is plenty of them these days.

[Blackshear]

I'd always wondered why some people gave me weird looks.
Some even hold their palms open on their steering wheels with a 'WHHHHHY?!' expression :lol:
Mind you I don't swerve from gutter to centreline, but sometimes I get bored riding in a straight line. 'Swerving' keeps my concentration on the road, somewhat. Also gets tyres up to temp, all the better braking/swerving/doingbackflips from danger ahead, or to my side.

[Usarka]

Swerving is stupid. Keep your line and releive the boredom by thinking about that hot chick you were talking to last week at the herpes clinic, ot the argument that you had with your boss. That's much safer.

[awayatc]

That's the problem with growing old.....
You become so much less tolerant........

[dipshit]

'Swerving' keeps my concentration on the road, somewhat. Also gets tyres up to temp, all the better braking/swerving/doingbackflips from danger ahead, or to my side.

Swerving does not warmup you tyres any quicker. It will also make you look more erratic and less predictable to other traffic. Grow a brain.

[sosman]

Man they're giving bikers a bad name with silly antics like that! they should be doing the two sec rule & allowing 3 sec indication time b4 changing lanes etc,because that's what biking is about :lol:

bede bede beep! wotsup buck!

[dipshit]

People get angry due to a subconscious jealousy a lot. That's why people used to abuse me on my bicycle when I was working as a bicycle courier.

So you think everybody in this thread → ( http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=953967 ) is pissed off with bicyclists because they are subconscious jealous and there possibly couldn't be any other reasons..???

[Blackshear]

Swerving is stupid. Keep your line and releive the boredom by thinking about that hot chick you were talking to last week at the herpes clinic, ot the argument that you had with your boss. That's much safer.

The thought of talking to a female, or the lack of which, makes me depressed.
The thought of the argument I have had with my boss makes me angry.

I apologize for this.

[McJim]

I was cruising down (in my car) the southern motorway between Drury and Bombay this morning. To the two bikes riding there, one a Yamaha, and i think the other was a Suzuki,

A. You look like you are retarded riding like that together.
B. You are just helping all other motorists justify the "fucken idiot bikes" metality alot of them have, which is not a good thing.

Sell your bike mate - you obviously have no understanding.Thanks for playing anyway - hey - why don't you buy a boat? They go even more sedately than cars and create rolling roadblocks.

[discotex]

You tell em bro :girlfight:

:lol::blink:

[PrincessBandit]

All good for shits and giggles till one of em loses control or clips the other one...

[Katman]

All good for shits and giggles till one of em loses control or clips the other one...

Don't be ridiculous.

There's no such thing as consequences when you're a motorcyclist!

[portokiwi]

:jerry::jerry::jerry:

[DIN PELENDA]

I was cruising down (in my car) the southern motorway between Drury and Bombay this morning. To the two bikes riding there, one a Yamaha, and i think the other was a Suzuki,

A. You look like you are retarded riding like that together.
B. You are just helping all other motorists justify the "fucken idiot bikes" metality alot of them have, which is not a good thing.

Sorry I was the one with Yamaha , did I piss u of , I won't do it again :hug:

[Ixion]

All good for shits and giggles till one of em loses control or clips the other one...

"In a lane each" not much risk of clipping.

Gee, how appalling. Absolutely disgraceful . Somebody having fun! Quick call the fun police.

At least they weren't doing the "pretend to be pedalling " thing on the hills. Or the "ministry of silly walks" thing. Or the "stand up on the pegs and make like letting loose a gigantic fart" thing. Or the "giant moon strides" thing. Or the "snatching non existent bugs out of the air" thing.

Not that serious respectable prurient constipated types like bikers would ever do such silly things.

What the head butting gentleman said.

[Katman]

Gee, how appalling. Absolutely disgraceful . Somebody having fun! Quick call the fun police.



So what would be the expected reaction to a backward baseball cap wearing bogun driving a WRX Evo 6 Skyline weaving from side to side in their lane?

[Katman]

I saw a similar thing recently, my first instinct was 'what a dick' then a second later I remembered I used to do that when I was a teen and young and free with no kids, mortgage, boss breathing down my back....sigh....

The times they are a'changing.

Once upon a time a percentage of the public just saw us as clowns on the road.

Nowadays that same percentage see us as clowns that should be removed from the road.

[mattian]

I'm still trying to work out what "metality" is :Oops:

[Usarka]

I'm still trying to work out what "metality" is :Oops:

They do a good cover of Enter Sandman.

[Ixion]

So what would be the expected reaction to a backward baseball cap wearing bogun driving a WRX Evo 6 Skyline weaving from side to side in their lane?

So long as he's in his own lane , it wouldn't worry me. Why should it? (Assuming that it looked intentional, and not an indication of a drunken driver - not a factor in the case cited by the OP) . Can't weave a car very much in a lane of course, and probbaly not so much fun either, but .

[Ixion]

I'm still trying to work out what "metality" is :Oops:

It's the generic case of irony.

[Katman]

it wouldn't worry me. Why should it?

Yes, but you're hardly indicative of the general public.

[PrincessBandit]

"In a lane each" not much risk of clipping.



Ok, my bad, I read it as weaving across each others lanes. Even so, it only takes one weaving pattern to meet with the other (like the overlaid sine waves which intersect at given points) for there to suddenly be dual splattage.

[dipshit]

Ok, my bad, I read it as weaving across each others lanes. Even so, it only takes one weaving pattern to meet....


It isn't so much about a safety issue... more about looking like a couple of immature kids playing on the motorway.

It makes all motorcyclists look like retards. A bit like when motorcyclists wear their helmets into shops.

[discotex]

It makes all motorcyclists look like retards.

No it doesn't


A bit like when motorcyclists wear their helmets into shops.

WTF are you on about?

Been smoking crack again dipshit? :rolleyes:

[fire eyes]

ohh for freedom ...... :weep:

[vtec]

So you think everybody in this thread → ( http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=953967 ) is pissed off with bicyclists because they are subconscious jealous and there possibly couldn't be any other reasons..???

Umm having trouble seeing what their deal is. A pack of cyclists bunch up at an intersection. What do you want them to do? Hold it to the left so that a car can pass them at an intersection?? What if they want to turn right?... Retarded.

So what if a car loses a few seconds because they have to pass some cyclists with a bit of caution and due care. They have as many rights as you do sorry to say. And it's your duty to pass them carefully which isn't exactly difficult considering how skinny they are even two wide, and the fact that they usually go at about 30kph.

Get over yourself. Seems motorcyclists have the same superiority complex to bicycles that cars have to motorbikes.

I mostly ride solo. In fact I'm about to start an 800km cycle from SF to LA, starting on monday US time, so tuesday your time. Here's a link to the route going to attempt it in 5 days carrying a fair bit of weight though: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Half+Moon+Bay,+California&daddr=CA-1%2FCoast+Rd+to:CA-1+to:CA-1%2FGuadalupe+Rd+to:CA-1+to:CA-1+to:CA-1%2FLincoln+Blvd+to:CA-1%2FS+Pacific+Coast+Ave+to:CA-1+to:CA-1+to:CA-1+to:33.509196,-117.75095+to:11+via+jacinto+rancho+santa+margarita ,+CA,+92688&geocode=%3BFfBHNAIdbEy4-A%3BFZJvKQIdely9-A%3BFd65FQIdWjzQ-A%3BFerPEQId3mvR-A%3BFZIECAIdw8Tn-A%3BFYzKBgIdpmHw-A%3BFbArBAIdBJTx-A%3BFSycAwIddGjz-A%3BFb5MAgId5Jj2-A%3BFe45AAId9__5-A%3B%3B&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=11&sz=13&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11&rtol=12&doflg=ptk&sll=33.541538,-117.714386&sspn=0.070537,0.154495&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=35.684072,-120.091553&spn=4.015221,9.887695&z=7

[Blackshear]

It isn't so much about a safety issue... more about looking like a couple of immature kids playing on the motorway.

It makes all motorcyclists look like retards. A bit like when motorcyclists wear their helmets into shops.

At that point, Professor Quirrel burst through the great dining hall doors, in a panicked and flusterred manner..
"TROOOOOLLS! TROOOOLLS IN THE DUNGEONS!!!!"

[dipshit]

Get over yourself. Seems motorcyclists have the same superiority complex to bicycles that cars have to motorbikes.

I agree and is why i posted that as a classic example.

And do you still think those motorcyclists were saying those things because they are jealous..??

[dipshit]

No it doesn't

Yes it can. Reread the impression of what the guy who was there and saw them again...

"A. You look like you are retarded riding like that together.
B. You are just helping all other motorists justify the "fucken idiot bikes" metality alot of them have, which is not a good thing.

Maybe if your on a racetrack and need to warm your tyres or something? But on the southern motorway, with other traffic around, you look like a fuckwit, to put it politely."




WTF are you on about?

You really haven't got a clue, have you?

[avgas]

Swerving does not warmup you tyres any quicker. It will also make you look more erratic and less predictable to other traffic. Grow a brain.
depends entirely on how its done. however the main advantage is actually the scrubbing action - vital if you ride with Shinko's or even to get the most out of Pirelli's. Since you such a desktop hero, try this test out - get an eraser, and roll it on the table top between the tabletop and your hand. You will notice that not only does the tyre lose its squareness and expose "the good rubber" is also slightly warms.

[avgas]

ohh for freedom ...... :weep:
Yep seconded......i miss it so

[discotex]

Yes it can. Reread the impression of what the guy who was there and saw them again...

I read it plenty clear the first time.

One single motorist having a self-righteous whinge about two people having fun does not make any other motorists think "all motorcyclists look like retards" as you posited.



You really haven't got a clue, have you?

I have many clues :msn-wink:

I'm not aware of any bikers that go shopping at Farmers with their helmets on.

[avgas]

So what would be the expected reaction to a backward baseball cap wearing bogun driving a WRX Evo 6 Skyline weaving from side to side in their lane?
It would be pretty funny - those things have square tyres. Kinda like using the toaster to cook eggs

[dipshit]

depends entirely on how its done. however the main advantage is actually the scrubbing action - vital if you ride with Shinko's or even to get the most out of Pirelli's.


Like you really need that advantage for riding in traffic on a motorway... :tugger:

[Blackshear]

It would be pretty funny - those things have square tyres. Kinda like using the toaster to cook eggs

Avgas, is that a dead Hardcore Diablo II character as your avatar?

[scumdog]

Don't be ridiculous.

There's no such thing as consequences when you're a motorcyclist!

ESPECIALLY on KB!!:laugh:

[zzzbang]

Laugh.. how about instead of complaining about all this rubbish you guys just go out and ride your bikes?

[Ragingrob]

The wankers in the stunting forum think other road users are jealous and that they wish they could be just like them when they are out fucking around on the motorway too.

Delusional.

There's a slight difference between breaking the law, and um, not.

And why is everyone in the stunting forum a wanker? You're a bit of a stereotyping guru aren't ya!

[Ragingrob]

Like you really need that advantage for riding in traffic on a motorway... :tugger:

Perhaps they got off at Bombay to do SH22, so yes maybe they did want that advantage... Wanker.

God it was a Saturday morning, on what was probably a relatively empty motorway, south of Drury, and 2 bikers had a bit of slalom fun in their own lanes within the law. Better call the waaaambulance!

Stereotyping at it's best again by some people huh, what bullshit.

"Oh god look at those bikers, fuck motorcyclists are dangerous idiots!"

"Oh god a car cut in front of me this morning, fucken cagers are idiots!"

They're called individuals, who fucken cares. If people are dumb enough to segment them into groups then there ain't much ya can do.

Stereotyping comes because of people like the OP who make a big deal of something outta nothing. So those guys looked like retards? So what? Did you go and tell them that? Do you really think that 2 bikers make up the average riding community?

Maybe swerving around gently in your own lane gives you road presence and you are less likely to be cut off because people will actually notice you? Ah that's it! So they were just being extra safe! :clap:

[McJim]

There are a few reasons why I do this from time to time on the bike. One is to practice countersteering. I don't get out on the bike as often as I want to any more so when I do get out I can be a bit rusty. Practicing countersteering along the straights seems fairly innoccuous and safe and helps me gauge how much pressure needs to be applied to the handlebars to get the desired amount of lean.

It also relives some of the monotony caused by riding on a straight road to get to the twisties as well as applying a little more temperature to the edges of the tyres prior to going round some corners and adds a little bit more safety to the whole riding thing.

As for car drivers' opinions of motorcyclists the vast majority of them really do like bikes and either want to get one or love to tell you about the days when they had one or their boyfriend had one. Anyone meeting motorists with a hatred of motorcycles has just been unfortunate to meet a random fuckwit.

Mind you it could feasible be that EVERYONE I speak to is just lying to me and secretly hates bikers......:rofl:

[KiwiKat]

It isn't so much about a safety issue... more about looking like a couple of immature kids playing on the motorway.

It makes all motorcyclists look like retards. A bit like when motorcyclists wear their helmets into shops.

You've got some serious self image issues. Sounds like old farts syndrome hitting early.


There are a few reasons why I do this from time to time on the bike. One is to practice countersteering. I don't get out on the bike as often as I want to any more so when I do get out I can be a bit rusty. Practicing countersteering along the straights seems fairly innoccuous and safe and helps me gauge how much pressure needs to be applied to the handlebars to get the desired amount of lean.

It also relives some of the monotony caused by riding on a straight road to get to the twisties as well as applying a little more temperature to the edges of the tyres prior to going round some corners and adds a little bit more safety to the whole riding thing.


:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

As a progressively older rider it takes me longer to get the reflexes sharpened and get in the zone as such. A little bit of weaving also keeps my concentration up so I don't snooze:zzzz:. But it pays to be aware that cagers don't know what you are thinking when you start heading towards them unexpectedly.

[weekendwarrior]

Its dickheads like that that give bikers a bad name and the public a reason to:nono: hate us.

[Ragingrob]

Its dickheads like that that give bikers a bad name and the public a reason to:nono: hate us.

Really? And how's that? What did they do to deserve to be called dickheads and give bikers a bad name and make the 'public' hate us (Who are part of the public)?

[dpex]

That's the problem with growing old.....
You become so much less tolerant........

Geez, I don't! In fact I want folk to be a lot more tolerant of me.

I just adore doing the slow right/left roll....The wide version of tyre-warming when you first hit the track.... on any road devoid of those who might impecuniate me; AKA, the cops.

It's like a man's personal version of Rainbows End.

And doing such, on a warm and sublime morning, up and across the three lanes heading South into the Bombay hills, with nary another vehicle in sight, is just.....Wonderful. 50M S-turns at....well let's not mention the forward velocity.....is just heaven.

Geez, Dipshit! You're not the other half of Katmans 18 brain-cells are ya?

[dipshit]

There are a few reasons why I do this from time to time on the bike. One is to practice countersteering. I don't get out on the bike as often as I want to any more so when I do get out I can be a bit rusty.

There's a difference between doing it shortly before hitting a good section through the Catlins... to a couple of homos doing it down the main street of Invercargill.

[dipshit]

And doing such, on a warm and sublime morning, up and across the three lanes heading South into the Bombay hills, with nary another vehicle in sight, is just.....Wonderful.


Remember it's usually the one you didn't see that gets you.

[dipshit]

Really? And how's that? What did they do to deserve to be called dickheads and give bikers a bad name and make the 'public' hate us (Who are part of the public)?

Maybe some motorcyclists should stop thinking that the sun shines out of their backside and their shit never stinks. Quite possibly from the outside they looked like a couple of wankers.

Crazy radical concept for you people, i know... but there you go.

[Ragingrob]

There's a difference between doing it shortly before hitting a good section through the Catlins... to a couple of homos doing it down the main street of Invercargill.

I somehow think that the southern motorway near Bombay is actually not the main street of Invercargill, just doesn't quite sound right. So to quote you but fix it "There's a difference between doing it on the southern motorway near Bombay... to a couple of homos doing it down the main street of Invercargill."

Well done dipshit you are very smart!


Remember it's usually the one you didn't see that gets you.

Maybe you should use your mirrors every now and again. Might make you realise you can discover what surrounds you!


Maybe some motorcyclists should stop thinking that the sun shines out of their backside and their shit never stinks. Quite possibly from the outside they looked like a couple of wankers.

Crazy radical concept for you people, i know... but there you go.

Quite possibly they looked like a couple of wankers, woop de fucken do, I see a hundred 'wankers' a day, doesn't mean I think all black/white/yellow people are idiots or all cagers/bikers/cyclists are idiots.

You sure sound like a wanker, and I'm gonna go ahead and classify you as an idiot too. Doesn't mean that all KBers are idiots though. Or that all who ride sv1000s are idiots either. Cause I'm not an idiot, and don't think like that.

[dipshit]

Maybe you should use your mirrors every now and again. Might make you realise you can discover what surrounds you!


:rofl:

Well someone that cheeks their mirrors then thinks everything is clear is courting with disaster.

Like I said... it's usually the one you didn't see that gets you.

[Ragingrob]

:rofl:

Well someone that cheeks their mirrors then thinks everything is clear is courting with disaster.

Like I said... it's usually the one you didn't see that gets you.

Yes you are correct.

Meh

:bye:

[scumdog]

Just thought I'd post a comment from a hot-rod forum:

"On the way back to Whiritoa from Whanga on Sunday arvo,some dick on a jap bike decided to jam himself between us and Waikato willies r/p,coming down the 35 km/h curly bits to the one way bridge just before Whiritoa,braking for the curves and have some flogger stuff a bike in the hole,also braking,does not make a pretty sight,if I had taken him out,it would have been messy,front bumper on the truck is near 3mm thick.And they say we give bike riders a raw deal? insert Tui ad here... "

Just to let y'all know mind...

[weekendwarrior]

Really? And how's that? What did they do to deserve to be called dickheads and give bikers a bad name and make the 'public' hate us (Who are part of the public)?

read the 1st and 3rd thread:wacko:

[Ragingrob]

read the 1st and 3rd thread:wacko:

So staying within one's lane and riding completely legally and safely is grounds to be called a dickhead and be told you're ruining the public perception of bikers?

Just because one guy thinks you look like a retard? :whocares:

[Tone165]

People get angry due to a subconscious jealousy a lot. That's why people used to abuse me on my bicycle when I was working as a bicycle courier. Cause they were jealous of the freedom I had, and they were frustrated as all hell sitting in their cars. So what they weaved a bit. My heart pumps custard for you. As long as you weren't trying to lane share with them they should be fine. Find a bigger fish to fry. There is plenty of them these days.

Sums up my position adequately also.

Try and find any biker that doesn't put shit on other "types" of rider...I know I do it!

But I prefer to target the incompetent rather than the exuberant.

Get some Effin lessons!

[sosman]

Its dickheads like that that give bikers a bad name and the public a reason to:nono: hate us.

Hmmn what are you gonna upgrade to next? cbr600? gsxr600 & Why? "I know" you'll tell ya mates...just how fast you accelerated up to 99.9kph & how you crank yr bike over in the corners & swerved suddenly to avoid a massive pot hole & bla bla bla etc.....But you won't tell them that would ya,cause yr just an A-to-B rider who obviously just rides to save petrol cause doing it for the Wow this farkin rocks factor! is just not you....Is it?

I could be wrong:devil2:

[Ixion]

I am with the writhing gentleman.

It seems to me that the original post could, with entire justice be restated as

" two people were riding along, quite legally, not endangering or even inconveniencing anyone (including themselves). They appeared to be enjoying themselves

But, they were doing something that I do not do. And anyone who does anything that I do not is thereby a retard"

That's an ugly attitude. A cager attitude. It is sad to see such things on a biker forum

It is a paradoxical observation that the most intolerant attitudes toward any display of individuality often seem to come from crusier riders, who frequently claim to be expressing their own individuality. Perhaps individuality is only permissable if its a standard and approved individuality.

[sosman]

I am with the writhing gentleman.

It seems to me that the original post could, with entire justice be restated as

" two people were riding along, quite legally, not endangering or even inconveniencing anyone (including themselves). They appeared to be enjoying themselves

But, they were doing something that I do not do. And anyone who does anything that I do not is thereby a retard"

That's an ugly attitude. A cager attitude. It is sad to see such things on a biker forum

It is a paradoxical observation that the most intolerant attitudes toward any display of individuality often seem to come from crusier riders, who frequently claim to be expressing their own individuality. Perhaps individuality is only permissable if its a standard and approved individuality.

Well Newby who started the thread... was in a cage with Fitz of rage lol

Actually where is Newby?

[dipshit]

No, they were riding erratically and unpredictably in traffic. The very opposite of what you should be doing in traffic.

To someone who saw them - they did not look cool. They looked stupid. This person was a motorcyclist himself. Imagine what the other drivers must of been thinking.

Just because you are on a motorcycle, doesn't mean the sun shines out of your backside and you can do no wrong.

[PirateJafa]

Maybe some motorcyclists should stop thinking that the sun shines out of their backside and their shit never stinks. Quite possibly from the outside they looked like a couple of wankers.

Crazy radical concept for you people, i know... but there you go.

Wait a second. So you've been saying in this thread that because these guys were, as Rob pointed out, riding legally, at the speed limit, within their own lanes, without endangering any other road users or babies, they're wankers.

Why? Because they're sportbikers who're enjoying themselves?

What would a country with you in charge look like? I can only imagine a New Zealand where the only permitted vehicle is a Corolla.

[dipshit]

Actually where is Newby?

He's probably stunned how most people picked on him instead as if he was the idiot.

You shouldn't be a heretic just because you said you saw some wankers on some bikes today.

[Ixion]

I doubt they cared less if they looked "cool". If you need to worry about it, you ain't. And less still what cagers might have thought. A fine world it would be if we were to worry what they think.

And , contrary, just because they are motorcyclists does not mean they can only do wrong.

I have seen nothing to indicate they were driving erratically or unpredicatably. Rather the reverse.

Passant, I have observed before how very often these prurient threads begin "I was driving my car" . Why, one asks, was the OP, if he be a motorcyclist himself, driving a car?

[Ixion]

He's probably stunned how most people picked on him instead as if he was the idiot.

You shouldn't be a heretic just because you said you saw some wankers on some bikes today.


Perspicious little fella, isn't he.

[dipshit]

Wait a second. So you've been saying in this thread that because these guys were, as Rob pointed out, riding legally, at the speed limit, within their own lanes, without endangering any other road users or babies, they're wankers.

You can still be erratic and unpredictable to other traffic even if staying within the law. It is more about maturity and self-control and discipline and thoughtfulness for the other road users around you.


Why? Because they're sportbikers who're enjoying themselves?

The roads - particularly motorways - are not playgrounds for having "fun" on. This is why they are wankers on bikes.

[Kickaha]

Just because you are on a motorcycle, doesn't mean the sun shines out of your backside and you can do no wrong.

Don't be stupid of course it does

[dipshit]

Perspicious little fella, isn't he.


I am not surprised this is completely off the radar for a lot of your people. There are after all a lot of idiots and wankers on bikes.

[PirateJafa]

Don't be stupid of course it does

Too late.


You can still be erratic and unpredictable to other traffic even if staying within the law. It is more about maturity and self-control and discipline and thoughtfulness for the other road users around you.

The roads - particularly motorways - are not playgrounds for having "fun" on. This is why they are wankers on bikes.

Why do you even own a bike then? (even if it is a Suzuki) Surely you'd be more happy on a scooter? Oh wait, what's that? You enjoy owning a SV1000 more than a scooter? Baaaack to the start...

[Ixion]

I am not surprised this is completely off the radar for a lot of your people. There are after all a lot of idiots and wankers on bikes.

Having fun an all. Doesn't that notion just bunch y' panties.

[McJim]

. Perhaps individuality is only permissable if its a standard and approved individuality.

Approved and standardised individuality....you're talking about Suzuki's Boulevard range aintcha? :rofl: homologated cruisin' wiv added individuality :killingme:

[Ragingrob]

No, they were riding erratically and unpredictably in traffic. The very opposite of what you should be doing in traffic.

To someone who saw them - they did not look cool. They looked stupid. This person was a motorcyclist himself. Imagine what the other drivers must of been thinking.

Just because you are on a motorcycle, doesn't mean the sun shines out of your backside and you can do no wrong.

How is it unpredictable to ride in your own lane? How is it erratic to continuously swerve smoothly left and then right?

There's 'traffic' on a Saturday morning south of Drury on the motorway? Doubt it.

Who cares if someone thought they looked stupid, doesn't mean shit. I see cars not indicate and think they're stupid, doesn't mean all car drivers are stupid idiots who are dangerous.

They weren't doing any wrong, so give it up.

[Tone165]

Can see where OP is coming from, and to be fair..he was there, we were not.

Like the old "Dangerous overtaking maneuver"...in the eye of the beholder!

There are idiots among us, who will deny it? But as for what the cagers think......

I have been riding, driving car and truck for 30 odd years, and in general terms, I am yet to be convinced that they think at all! Unless it is along the lines of..

"I wonder whats on the other radio station" or "What shall I have for dinner tonight"

It's good to ride "unpredictably" because it reduces the cagers liklihood of "assuming"

It's good to attract attention, cos it reduces the chances of the cager not noticing you

and its good to look dangerous, cos the cagers will only keep a safe distance from what they see as danger

In fact...I think that every now and then...a motorcyclist should drag a cager from his car and kill him. After a few stories about it in the newspaper and on TV... Cagers would be extra vigilant for bikes, keep a distance, and give way more often.

It's a safety issue isnt it!

[Ragingrob]

You can still be erratic and unpredictable to other traffic even if staying within the law. It is more about maturity and self-control and discipline and thoughtfulness for the other road users around you.



The roads - particularly motorways - are not playgrounds for having "fun" on. This is why they are wankers on bikes.

You mean the maturity, self-control and discipline to not post a thread crying about two people not acting like robots? :nono:

Stereos should be banned in cars too because it means the driver is having way too much fun and is a danger to society.

Erratic and unpredictable means that they are constantly changing their riding pattern. Swerving side to side in your own lane sounds like a pretty predictable pattern to me.

[dipshit]

As a motorcyclist you should be better than the average car driver... yet many motorcyclists are worse than average car drivers.

[Ragingrob]

Can see where OP is coming from, and to be fair..he was there, we were not.



Yep for sure... But he's coming out just calling them retards, idiots, and saying that they are adding to a bad reputation. Nothing said about why they deserve those names other than describing something that is completely legal and what I (and a lot of other people by the sounds of it) would call perfectly safe.

I like your way of thinking :headbang:

Speeding kills (apparently)... Not using your privilege of having a full lane to yourself to its extent.

[Ragingrob]

As a motorcyclist you should be better than the average car driver... yet many motorcyclists are worse than average car drivers.

Where the hell did ya get that from?

It's all down to the individual.

[McJim]

There's a bit of a fundamental untruth being perpetuated by one side of this discussion. The public don't hate us nor are they afraid of us.

Strangers love to talk to me at petrol stations, piss stops, look outs, even at the traffic lights going to work. All of them say "Nice bike" or "I used to ride a bike" or "My hubby used to have a bike"....most common comment is "Your bike sounds sweet" coz it's got a bit of character.:love:

I have no idea where this idea of bikers demonised by the public came from but there are a few idiots that think if they crow about it often enough it will become true. You know who you are now go and sell you fucken bikes and don't darken my screen any more!:angry2:

[Tone165]

As a motorcyclist you should be better than the average car driver... yet many motorcyclists are worse than average car drivers.

Sadly this is very true....I have always thought that Bikers make better car drivers....but lately, with the boom in popularity that bikes have had...there seem to be very many absolute crap riders out there.

My (generalised) observations are that the worst tend to be on large cruisers, or maxi scooters.

[Katman]

Some of you in here are so blinded by the myth that being a biker makes you God's gift to New Zealand's roads.

The actions of the two weaving motorcyclists did not display a responsible manner of riding to those other road users around them.

If we continue to act like clowns we will continue to be treated like clowns.

[dipshit]

Where the hell did ya get that from?

A bike gives you very little protection when things go wrong in an accident. Even a minor incidence on a bike can result in nasty injuries, whereas a car driver would be fine.

For that reason alone motorcyclists should take their riding more seriously than car drivers do.

[Ragingrob]

Some of you in here are so blinded by the myth that being a biker makes you God's gift to New Zealand's roads.

The actions of the two weaving motorcyclists did not display a responsible manner of riding to those other road users around them.

If we continue to act like clowns we will continue to be treated like clowns.

Weaving implies them going side to side around something or each other, which they were not. They were going side to side in their own lane on a Saturday morning. Hardly what I'd call irresponsible road-users!

[Tone165]

There's a bit of a fundamental untruth being perpetuated by one side of this discussion. The public don't hate us nor are they afraid of us.

Strangers love to talk to me at petrol stations, piss stops, look outs, even at the traffic lights going to work. All of them say "Nice bike" or "I used to ride a bike" or "My hubby used to have a bike"....most common comment is "Your bike sounds sweet" coz it's got a bit of character.:love:

I have no idea where this idea of bikers demonised by the public came from but there are a few idiots that think if they crow about it often enough it will become true. You know who you are now go and sell you fucken bikes and don't darken my screen any more!:angry2:

Yeah....sell em to me...dirt cheap!

McJim...stop bringing me down man! I like the feeling of importance that my black vest and cut off gloves give me! Sort of sinister...kind of "lock up your dortas" Not the least bit "inadequate"

I hardly ever get that feeling working down at the dildo factory!

[Katman]

The anti WRB campaigners have said on a number of occasions that we need to get the public on side to have any hope of achieving anything.

Acting like retards on the road is only going to have the public thinking we get what we deserve.

[PirateJafa]

Some of you in here are so blinded by the myth that being a biker makes you God's gift to New Zealand's roads.

The actions of the two weaving motorcyclists did not display a responsible manner of riding to those other road users around them.

If we continue to act like clowns we will continue to be treated like clowns.

You know, I often agree with what you say - but you are so far out on a limb here that it is laughable.

Next Dipshite'll be claiming that because one in a thousand bikers occasionally indicate right when entering a roundabout with the intention of going straight through, we are all going to be rammed off the road by Joe BlogMcCardriver.

[dipshit]

Strangers love to talk to me at petrol stations, piss stops, look outs, even at the traffic lights going to work. All of them say "Nice bike" or "I used to ride a bike" or "My hubby used to have a bike".

Yeah, but what's the reason their other half doesn't let them get a bike again.. ??? :nono:

[Ragingrob]

A bike gives you very little protection when things go wrong in an accident. Even a minor incidence on a bike can result in nasty injuries, whereas a car driver would be fine.

For that reason alone motorcyclists should take their riding more seriously than car drivers do.

Sure but does that mean riding like a zombie and therefore being blind to other road-users? Nope, safest option is to make yourself visible right? They sure did that didn't they!

I see just as many 'bad' riders as I do 'bad' drivers if we're talking in proportion here.

[Ragingrob]

Yeah, but what's the reason their other half doesn't let them get a bike again.. ??? :nono:

They can't afford it/It doesn't quite fit in with transporting your family.

You should give them your bike.

[dipshit]

Hardly what I'd call irresponsible road-users!

Hardly what anybody would call mature riding though. Immature more like.

[Katman]

They were going side to side in their own lane on a Saturday morning. Hardly what I'd call irresponsible road-users!

Riding side by side, weaving from side to side in their lanes.

All it takes is a slight miscalculation or just a bit of bad luck for it to all turn to shit.

Surely no-one in here is retarded enough to think that motorcyclists never misjudge things.

[dipshit]

Sure but does that mean riding like a zombie and therefore being blind to other road-users? Nope, safest option is to make yourself visible right? They sure did that didn't they!

What a load of bullshit.

[Ragingrob]

The anti WRB campaigners have said on a number of occasions that we need to get the public on side to have any hope of achieving anything.

Acting like retards on the road is only going to have the public thinking we get what we deserve.

First of all, for what reason do you call them retards? What was so inherently bad about their road-usage?

Secondly, why would the 'public' think that just because a couple of people saw another couple of people do something?

Driving down the motorway at 70kph is more dangerous than doing what they were.

[Katman]

First of all, for what reason do you call them retards?

'Cos I know it bugs you?

:msn-wink:

[Ragingrob]

Hardly what anybody would call mature riding though. Immature more like.

Nope I don't think it needs to be called anything... It's just riding ffs!


Riding side by side, weaving from side to side in their lanes.

All it takes is a slight miscalculation or just a bit of bad luck for it to all turn to shit.

Surely no-one in here is retarded enough to think that motorcyclists never misjudge things.

Just as bad as that ticking timebomb pulling out of a side road. Dangerous shit huh! Traffic lights should be everywhere!

Doing some slalom on a straight piece of road with a full lane to yourself doesn't sound that hard to me. Surely no-one in here is that unco-ordinated?


What a load of bullshit.

Care to explain why?

[dipshit]

They can't afford it/It doesn't quite fit in with transporting your family.

Plenty of cheap bikes around to fit any budget.

More like bikes are seen as "death traps" ridden by "temporary citizens" ... you're not getting one of those... you have a family now! says the wifey. :angry2:

[Katman]

Doing some slalom on a straight piece of road with a full lane to yourself doesn't sound that hard to me. Surely no-one in here is that unco-ordinated?


Another bike beside you doing the same thing takes it to another level.

(And yes, I believe there are motorcyclists out there who could fuck it up even doing it all by themselves).

[dipshit]

Care to explain why?

cos you were talking crap.

[Ragingrob]

I must say, it is hard to make judgement when the orginal poster has run away. Perhaps on second thoughts they weren't being quite so lethal to the world as he first thought.

Dipshit - You don't believe that making yourself visible is a safe option? Or you don't believe that they were making themselves visible? Because that it what you are arguing :lol:

Katman - Yes, if they were directly side by side and swerving right to edges of their lane it could be a dumb thing to do. They obviously thought that they had the skill level and who are we to say whether they did or not? They obviously survived the whole ordeal.

[dipshit]

Dipshit - You don't believe that making yourself visible is a safe option? Or you don't believe that they were making themselves visible? Because that it what you are arguing :lol:

Thanks for proving that even though you may own a motorbike... you can still be as dumb as fuck.

[Katman]

Just riding side by side, in a lane each, swerving back and forth across the lanes.






Katman - Yes, if they were directly side by side and swerving right to edges of their lane it could be a dumb thing to do.

Sounds pretty close, don't you think?

[Ragingrob]

Thanks for proving that even though you may own a motorbike... you can still be as dumb as fuck.

Mate you're certainly one to throw insults from afar aren't ya? Grow some hairy balls and tell me why I managed to prove that wonderful statement? Or can't you reach the toys you just threw outta the cot?

[Ragingrob]

Sounds pretty close.

Swerving can be done with about 2m of width, pretty sure our lanes are a tad wider than that. Was Newby riding beside them so that he could judge how 'side by side' they were? If he was behind them they could've easily been 10m away from each other. Guess we'll never know.

[PirateJafa]

Mate you're certainly one to throw insults from afar aren't ya? Grow some hairy balls and tell me why I managed to prove that wonderful statement? Or can't you reach the toys you just threw outta the cot?
Mate. Haven't you notice that every single inconvenient point you have raised so far he has either ignored or just called "bullshit" because he'd actually have to deviate from his party-line to answer them, and in doing so realise the arrogance/ignorance of his position? :lol:

[Katman]

Swerving can be done with about 2m of width, pretty sure our lanes are a tad wider than that. Was Newby riding beside them so that he could judge how 'side by side' they were? If he was behind them they could've easily been 10m away from each other. Guess we'll never know.

Here, grab this straw.

[dipshit]

Mate. Haven't you notice that every single inconvenient point you have raised so far he has either ignored or just called "bullshit"? :lol:

Another shit for brains motorcyclist... who would have thought..??

[Katman]

Haven't you notice that every single inconvenient point you have raised so far ............

The only "point" I can see that he's attempted to raise so far is that supposedly by weaving from side to side across the lane you make yourself more noticeable.

If a car driver sees a motorcyclist weaving from one side of their lane to the other do you think they're likely to say (a) "Phew, lucky that bike's weaving like that otherwise I wouldn't have seen him" or (b) "Look at that fucking clown - no wonder they have accidents all the time".

[Ragingrob]

Here, grab this straw.

:girlfight:

As Jafa just said, I seem to be getting a lot more name-calling and non-statements than decent argument material.

Maybe Newby will return to enlighten us with some actual details of why he can go online and make the public's perception of two bikers negative.

Next time I spot a VL250 around Drury I'll be sure to follow it until they do anything remotely human-like, pull them over, kick their bike over, and remove their license, cause they may endanger our looking-glass self!

Night!

[PirateJafa]

Another shit for brains motorcyclist... who would have thought..??
Look mate, I know that down in your hick town these "multi-lane road" contraptions are just a wild dream, and people ride bikes that are fitted with non-knobbly tyres whilst wearing gear other than stubbies and gumboots, but just because of that, there is no reason to assume that every biker in the country is stuck down at your level.

Two people, aware of each other, riding at/under the limit both speed and alcohol-wise, in their own separate lanes, is not a big deal. No matter how much you might love to pretend it is.

Fuck this, I'm going to ride my trackbike down the wrong side of the highway in rush hour tomorrow. While balancing on the front wheel.

Solely to give you something justifiable to wank on about.

[Ragingrob]

The only "point" I can see that he's raised so far is that supposedly by weaving across the lane you make yourself more noticeable.

If a car driver sees a motorcyclist weaving from one side of their lane to the other do you think they're likely to say (a) "Phew, lucky that bike's weaving like that otherwise I wouldn't have seen him" or (b) "Look at that fucking clown - no wonder they have accidents all the time".

I haven't been trying to make points as such, that was actually a light-hearted comment, you wouldn't understand. I've just been trying to get some reasoning as to why people can come out all guns blazing without even giving decent reasons as to why.

I'd think that some drivers will think it's cool, some will think it's dumb, some will add it to their biker stereotype, and most won't give 2 seconds thought.

[PirateJafa]

If a car driver sees a motorcyclist weaving from one side of their lane to the other do you think they're likely to say (a) "Phew, lucky that bike's weaving like that otherwise I wouldn't have seen him" or (b) "Look at that fucking clown - no wonder they have accidents all the time".

Having been in a car twice now that I can recall when seeing a biker weaving in their lane, I can assure you that the average cager either will not notice in the slightest, or they will say "What is he doing?" and then lean down to change radio station.

As much as people - particularly motorcyclists - love to think the world revolves around them, and every person just watches them constantly as they ride by - this is not the case. People don't notice Range Rovers just because they're Range Rovers. Same with motorbikes. They're just more background in their quest to get from A to B.

[Ragingrob]

Just a side note...

Newby your biography says that you like drinking. I hope you're not giving us people in our twenties a bad image by doing anything remotely "immature" when under the influence! Alcohol has killed many more people than bikers riding legally have. You bastard!

Na actually, we should meet up over a beer after a mint ride out our ways, keen? I promise no swerving! :apint:

Seriously...

[Tone165]

Thanks for proving that even though you may own a motorbike... you can still be as dumb as fuck.

Now you see...when you decend to this level, any credibility you may have had goes in the dunny.

Play the ball and not the man!

[Tone165]

Another shit for brains motorcyclist... who would have thought..??

another nail in the coffin ....

Give it up Dipshit, your out gunned, outclassed and out of arguements

[Aaron_newrider]

Retards on the northern this morning also, I was in the car with my partner, a scooter going up the onramp, almost nicked his knee on a wingmirror, corrected and then almost went into the back of someone else. Not wearing any gear so he would have had some lovely skin grafts. I was laughing.... Idiot. Just trying to go too fast, and trying to go between cars that were merging.

[Mom]

A bike gives you very little protection when things go wrong in an accident. Even a minor incidence on a bike can result in nasty injuries, whereas a car driver would be fine.

For that reason alone motorcyclists should take their riding more seriously than car drivers do.


And you think we dont? :wacko:

[vifferman]

We (that is, myself-person and the vifferingbaby) were headed northwards on the southernwards motorway (it's OK - so was everyone else apart form those in the other lanes, so there were few collisions) and a guy on one of them there Ninjacycles passed us. My wife (the viffer of woman) wondered why he was weaving furiously from side to side. I said he was either making sure his tyres didn't get squared off, or he was bored.
The WifeAccountantPorcupinePilionist replied that my tyres were squared off, and I said no they weren't and then a fist-fight ensued, somewhere in the world...

[Hazza]

You all bitch more than 16 year old girls.

I doesn't matter how they were riding or how stupid they looked they didn't crash or hurt anyone. :whocares:

Harden the F**k Up KB

[vifferman]

You all bitch more than 16 year old girls.

I doesn't matter how they were riding or how stupid they looked they didn't crash or hurt anyone. :whocares:

Harden the F**k Up KB
Six posts eh? You're game.... <_<

[Hazza]

Six posts eh? You're game.... <_<

Yea I'm Game, Ive only just signed up to KB so what difference does that make.

This has been the biggest bitching session i have read on here so far.

Forums are a way of voicing you opinions right, so there is mine on this topic

[dipshit]

And you think we dont?

The ones in here that are saying "but they were only having a bit of fun" obviously don't.

[Usarka]

What's the point of riding if it's not fun? If your going to be miserable and bored then cars are much more comfortable.

[dipshit]

What's the point of riding if it's not fun? If your going to be miserable and bored then cars are much more comfortable.

How on earth could riding a bike be miserable and boring...?!?!?

[weekendwarrior]

So staying within one's lane and riding completely legally and safely is grounds to be called a dickhead and be told you're ruining the public perception of bikers?

Just because one guy thinks you look like a retard? :whocares:

No not at all, that would be fine if that were the case, but in the third thread it says they were swerving back and forth across the lanes, this is what I would consider being a dickhead and ruining the publics perception of bikers.

[PirateJafa]

No not at all, that would be fine if that were the case, but in the third thread it says they were swerving back and forth across the lanes, this is what I would consider being a dickhead and ruining the publics perception of bikers.

Were you the Hyobag rider that got fucked up outside the Highland Park Shell station today? Or is the location/bike just a coincidence?

[Racer X]

I can imagine that's a delusion most wankers on bikes have.

LOL that stick is just working itself further and further up there...

[scumdog]

Won't SOMEBODY please think of the children????

Oh, that's right, THEY were doing the posting....:dodge:

[98tls]

Like sand through the hourglass so are the threads on KB.:woohoo:

[Solly]

Like sand through the hourglass so are the threads on KB.:woohoo:

Fu*k, don't mention "sand" or "hourglass".....there'll be a bitch :argue: session on that next :jerry::killingme

[weekendwarrior]

Were you the Hyobag rider that got fucked up outside the Highland Park Shell station today? Or is the location/bike just a coincidence?

Na not me, its a week day:niceone:

[Hiflyer]

How on earth could riding a bike be miserable and boring...?!?!?

well it could be boring if you dont have any corners in a while (im guessing they were just having fun) if you can honestly say that you have never done anything silly or reckless for fun . . . . then i wont believe you :wari:


Yea I'm Game, Ive only just signed up to KB so what difference does that make.

This has been the biggest bitching session i have read on here so far.

Forums are a way of voicing you opinions right, so there is mine on this topic



awww m8 you havent seen anything yet! and i havent even seen the half of what KB has to offer. if you expect a forum to be all about niceties, especially a motorbike forum, you are extremely misinformed! :Punk::bash:

[dipshit]

Originally Posted by dipshit
I can imagine that's a delusion most wankers on bikes have.


LOL that stick is just working itself further and further up there...

Speaking of the devil.

[98tls]

well it could be boring if you dont have any corners in a while (im guessing they were just having fun) if you can honestly say that you have never done anything silly or reckless for fun . . . . then i wont believe you :gob::gob::gob:Its the interweb,everyones perfect.

[mctshirt]

How on earth could riding a bike be miserable and boring...?!?!?

Waikato fog last Sunday and 500 km from home :weep:

[avgas]

There are a few reasons why I do this from time to time on the bike. One is to practice countersteering..........
It also relives some of the monotony caused by .....
Your explanation is too boring - i do it for shit and giggles.
Besides everyone knows im far too dangerous when i go DEAD straight - stupid motorways.

[avgas]

Acting like retards on the road is only going to have the public thinking we get what we deserve.
Sometimes i act. But to let you in on a secret - there are a lot of retards on bikes. And i should know - i take the short bus
;)
Come one man - we do deserve what we get. Think about it like this.
How many people who have never touched a motorbike have a motorbike accident?
How many people who have never been for a swim - are attacked by a shark?
You used to be all about "Responsibility"
What have you done with KATMAN!!!!????!!!

[Elysium]

Dipshit I must ask this again, but do you have the right bike? Going through all your posts in this thread only leaves me with an impression that you're an extreme safety guru,fun police kind of guy. I mean riding an SV1000? From what I know they are very torqey, fast bike and certainly no pleasure cruiser.

Perhaps you should get yourself something less ...um extreme and buy yourself a Toyota Corola.

[Whynot]

But ......




Did they wave?

[Elysium]

But ......




Did they wave?

My gods! Cant belive no-one asked tht question yet!

That's good question.

[phiretrojan]

[QUOTE=newby;2001714]Just riding side by side, in a lane each, swerving back and forth across the lanes.



And you just Noticed that??? unless you are new?? i see it everyday, in fact i do it as well and lane spitting - just watch what you are doing as i have the few cars beening a$$holes and move closer just to piss us off, in fact happens again I'm going to blood kick it.... unless u want to be stuck in traffic in the morning on a motorcycle it can be annoying...

Welcome

[Murray]

But ......




Did they wave?

Probably - because they weren't on Harleys

[Whynot]

Probably - because they weren't on Harleys

Don't harley riders wave?
Thats just rude ...

[Blackshear]

Don't harley riders wave?
Thats just rude ...

They're too busy making sure everything doesn't fall off :girlfight: